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Post by smilesja on Jan 7, 2019 2:52:34 GMT
Are we going to stop insulting each and get back on topic? Seems a good idea. I'd be surprised if the MET were ever adjusted to make a canon ending. I mean I'd be fine with the only ending that made any sense to me (Control) but some might quibble. I could also see the series continue in Andromeda, but with the passage of some time and new protagonists (if not necessarily eliminating all past party members). Nah it’s Ryder or nothing for me. Having a new protagonist to me feels like they’re trying abandon the Andromeda fans.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 7, 2019 3:25:58 GMT
Mass Effect trilogy remastered would work on the PS4, not so on the xbone due to backwards compactibility for the all the titles. I don't see why Xbox's backwards compatibility would be a factor against a remaster. Just look at the Halo franchise which has both.
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Post by General Mahad on Jan 7, 2019 3:41:56 GMT
They absolutely did write themselves into a corner. There is no way they can go back to the milky way without implementing the choice the player took in the end. There was no reason to go to Andromeda, given there was so much more to be explored in the MW. Andromeda was only picked to avoid those ending. Synthesis; they'd have to make every character glow green, amongst other things. Control; Shepard is basically a demi-god controlling the reapers. Destroy; There is basically no artificial life left in the galaxy. Refuse; every race we have known up to this point is extinct and the reapers still exist. There is no way they can go back to the MW without taking note of all these different scenarios of what state the MW could be in. This is why they went to Andromeda. Either BW choose a canon ending, rewrite the ending, or stay in Andromeda. I bet they're going to stay within Andromeda just so most fans can remain relatively satisfied. Like I said, you want the trilogy to continue, they don't. You don't like the choices or outcomes they presented you, but they aren't going to retcon everything just so that they can squeeze another game in. That next game isn't coming. It's not due to spite, or to hurt your feelings. The trilogy was about Shepard's story, and the Reaper conflict. The conflict ended at the end of ME3, and that's the end of the story.
If you don't like how they wrapped up things, you are free not to purchase any further games from Bioware.
I don't see what your post has to do with remastering the trilogy anyways.
Fair enough.
Uh...a lot of fans wanted a new game in the same exact galaxy only without Team Milky Way. The Galaxy is only 1% explored and there’s many conflicts that can arise from any one of the endings if handled correctly and without “artistic integrity” bullcrap. Since BioWare doesn’t want to do that, Andromeda was the idea and it failed miserably compared to the trilogy except maybe gameplay. Also don’t buy any future BioWare games? Yeah that worked well for the previous EA entry and Andromeda.
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Post by sassafrassa on Jan 7, 2019 3:53:12 GMT
I would say the only game that really needs a remaster is ME1. I love it, but by modern standards it is quite dated.
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Post by smilesja on Jan 7, 2019 5:29:30 GMT
Like I said, you want the trilogy to continue, they don't. You don't like the choices or outcomes they presented you, but they aren't going to retcon everything just so that they can squeeze another game in. That next game isn't coming. It's not due to spite, or to hurt your feelings. The trilogy was about Shepard's story, and the Reaper conflict. The conflict ended at the end of ME3, and that's the end of the story.
If you don't like how they wrapped up things, you are free not to purchase any further games from Bioware.
I don't see what your post has to do with remastering the trilogy anyways.
Fair enough.
Uh...a lot of fans wanted a new game in the same exact galaxy only without Team Milky Way. The Galaxy is only 1% explored and there’s many conflicts that can arise from any one of the endings if handled correctly and without “artistic integrity” bullcrap. Since BioWare doesn’t want to do that, Andromeda was the idea and it failed miserably compared to the trilogy except maybe gameplay. Also don’t buy any future BioWare games? Yeah that worked well for the previous EA entry and Andromeda. And a lot of us want to go back to Andromeda. The trilogy is done as far as BioWare is concerned, the endings made sure of that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 5:31:35 GMT
I would say the only game that really needs a remaster is ME1. I love it, but by modern standards it is quite dated. Any ME1 remaster would simply be textures, nothing else. Combat would stay the same.
That's not how game development works. It's not made to order. Your feedback is taken into account, but only shapes a very small part of the overall game. After all, Bioware has full creative control when making their games. They don't let their fans ride shotgun when making a game. If they did, nothing would get done, because no one would agree on anything. You're only there to play and critique their games, not to produce them with Bioware.
Yes, vote with your wallet, because riots on the internet didn't get you a new ending and they certainly won't get you the game you want them to make.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 5:33:01 GMT
Uh...a lot of fans wanted a new game in the same exact galaxy only without Team Milky Way. The Galaxy is only 1% explored and there’s many conflicts that can arise from any one of the endings if handled correctly and without “artistic integrity” bullcrap. Since BioWare doesn’t want to do that, Andromeda was the idea and it failed miserably compared to the trilogy except maybe gameplay. Also don’t buy any future BioWare games? Yeah that worked well for the previous EA entry and Andromeda. And a lot of us want to go back to Andromeda. The trilogy is done as far as BioWare is concerned, the endings made sure of that. Define a lot...
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jan 7, 2019 5:57:21 GMT
Would people want a remaster of ME1 with ME3-style combat? I mean, obviously the combat of ME1 is not the highlight, but I kind of enjoy the disc-throw grenades how the shotguns feel compared to ME2+3. Thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 5:59:08 GMT
Would people want a remaster of ME1 with ME3-style combat? I mean, obviously the combat of ME1 is not the highlight, but I kind of enjoy the disc-throw grenades how the shotguns feel compared to ME2+3. Thoughts? Given the assets are pretty much in place I don't think it would be too expensive to accomplish that. I'd personally love to have a go at ME1 with ME2/3 combat...
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Post by sassafrassa on Jan 7, 2019 7:54:04 GMT
Would people want a remaster of ME1 with ME3-style combat? I mean, obviously the combat of ME1 is not the highlight, but I kind of enjoy the disc-throw grenades how the shotguns feel compared to ME2+3. Thoughts? I enjoy certain aspects of ME1 combat and even prefer them over the cover-based shooters we had in 2 and 3, but overall I think the combat in the sequels is better than the combat in ME1. Andromeda appears to have combat similar to what I'd think would have been the more logical evolution of ME1 combat. Cover is useful but it doesn't dominate. Mobility is also a possibility.
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Post by alanc9 on Jan 7, 2019 8:32:43 GMT
Uh...a lot of fans wanted a new game in the same exact galaxy only without Team Milky Way. The Galaxy is only 1% explored and there’s many conflicts that can arise from any one of the endings if handled correctly and without “artistic integrity” bullcrap. "Correctly" meaning..... what, exactly?
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Post by alanc9 on Jan 7, 2019 8:36:10 GMT
Who's actually in the market for this? I can't see any reason to buy a remaster. Who was in the market for any of the other remaster/remakes?... ...Fans. I thought that was pretty simple guess. Why else make one? If nobody cared to buy it they would have never made any of them. My bad. I meant who here. Anyone in the thread actually in the market for this, or is this something you want other people to buy?
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Jan 7, 2019 8:48:19 GMT
Would people want a remaster of ME1 with ME3-style combat? I mean, obviously the combat of ME1 is not the highlight, but I kind of enjoy the disc-throw grenades how the shotguns feel compared to ME2+3. Thoughts? I enjoy certain aspects of ME1 combat and even prefer them over the cover-based shooters we had in 2 and 3, but overall I think the combat in the sequels is better than the combat in ME1. Andromeda appears to have combat similar to what I'd think would have been the more logical evolution of ME1 combat. Cover is useful but it doesn't dominate. Mobility is also a possibility. Hear hear. I'm one of those who think they went into wrong direction in ME2 with combat. Maybe, if they remaster, they can make me3mp playable and actually fun too
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Post by cloud9 on Jan 7, 2019 9:39:46 GMT
I think a remaster is the best thing BW can do to generate hype for ME. If they release an Andromeda 2 with ryder straight out the gate, consumers will be very wary, and I think that would be more costly for BW overall. I know many people here love Andromeda, but the fact is the game was bashed and memed like crazy. People are still making videos, almost 2 years later, on youtube on just how bad Andromeda was. I personally don't think an Andromeda 2 will generate hype, or sells. If not a remaster, BW has to do something new again.
FUCK. THOSE. YOUTUBE & SOCIAL MEDIA. IDIOTS.
BioWare worked and works best when they didn't/don't listen to any of the shit gargling fuckwits on Youtube and social media, because listening to those useless shitheads, who will NEVER like a BioWare game no matter how good it is really is, for any reasons, if wasn't the animation errors (for the record: those errors were over blown), the so-called "poor writing" (for the record: that is subjective), or how "the SJWs ruined the game" (which again for the record: BioWare has always politics in their games and they tend to lead to the left of the political spectrum), they would have found something to bitch about.
Listening to those morons is how and why 99% of gaming sucks now of days, and frankly listening to ill-informed twits on social media will NEVER lead to any good piece of not only games but all media in general.
That's BioWare's fault for doing an incompetent job. If they have been on their Ps and Qs they would never been in the situation that they set themselves up in the first place.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 7, 2019 14:15:54 GMT
Would people want a remaster of ME1 with ME3-style combat? I mean, obviously the combat of ME1 is not the highlight, but I kind of enjoy the disc-throw grenades how the shotguns feel compared to ME2+3. Thoughts? Given the assets are pretty much in place I don't think it would be too expensive to accomplish that. I'd personally love to have a go at ME1 with ME2/3 combat... ME1 level design wasn't designed around the ME3 combat design or enemy AI. So I would think it would require going back and remaking every single level with the ME3 combat design.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Jan 7, 2019 14:25:19 GMT
Would people want a remaster of ME1 with ME3-style combat? I mean, obviously the combat of ME1 is not the highlight, but I kind of enjoy the disc-throw grenades how the shotguns feel compared to ME2+3. Thoughts? Nope. Nope nope nope nope nope! They went into wrong direction in the combat IMHO, MEA recovered it a lot for me though.
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Post by cloud9 on Jan 7, 2019 22:10:45 GMT
Mass Effect trilogy remastered would work on the PS4, not so on the xbone due to backwards compactibility for the all the titles.
FUCK. THOSE. YOUTUBE & SOCIAL MEDIA. IDIOTS.
BioWare worked and works best when they didn't/don't listen to any of the shit gargling fuckwits on Youtube and social media, because listening to those useless shitheads, who will NEVER like a BioWare game no matter how good it is really is, for any reasons, if wasn't the animation errors (for the record: those errors were over blown), the so-called "poor writing" (for the record: that is subjective), or how "the SJWs ruined the game" (which again for the record: BioWare has always politics in their games and they tend to lead to the left of the political spectrum), they would have found something to bitch about.
Listening to those morons is how and why 99% of gaming sucks now of days, and frankly listening to ill-informed twits on social media will NEVER lead to any good piece of not only games but all media in general.
Got a little chip on your shoulder eh?
BioWare wrote themselves into a corner with the ME3 endings and had to nuke the Milky Way just to make a new Mass Effect game because they realized how badly they screwed up.
BioWare Defense Force. When will they ever learn?
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Post by river82 on Jan 7, 2019 22:17:32 GMT
Who was in the market for any of the other remaster/remakes?... ...Fans. I thought that was pretty simple guess. Why else make one? If nobody cared to buy it they would have never made any of them. My bad. I meant who here. Anyone in the thread actually in the market for this, or is this something you want other people to buy? Well, I think I'm a little old fashioned but imo the only games that need remasters are those from previous generations still in SD. The original Baldur's Gate was 640x480, that sucker right there needed a remaster. A Mass Effect remaster? Eh. But in game graphics aren't that important to me.
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Post by General Mahad on Jan 8, 2019 0:36:58 GMT
And a lot of us want to go back to Andromeda. The trilogy is done as far as BioWare is concerned, the endings made sure of that. Define a lot... I would say around 70%.
Milky Way is the far better setting.
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Post by General Mahad on Jan 8, 2019 0:38:45 GMT
I would say the only game that really needs a remaster is ME1. I love it, but by modern standards it is quite dated. Any ME1 remaster would simply be textures, nothing else. Combat would stay the same.
That's not how game development works. It's not made to order. Your feedback is taken into account, but only shapes a very small part of the overall game. After all, Bioware has full creative control when making their games. They don't let their fans ride shotgun when making a game. If they did, nothing would get done, because no one would agree on anything. You're only there to play and critique their games, not to produce them with Bioware.
Yes, vote with your wallet, because riots on the internet didn't get you a new ending and they certainly won't get you the game you want them to make.
Riots on the internet? Hyperbole much?
Anyway, I'll vote with my wallet and watch BioWare fail again on it's journey to join Westwood Studios and Pandemic Studios,
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Post by smilesja on Jan 8, 2019 2:37:27 GMT
Any ME1 remaster would simply be textures, nothing else. Combat would stay the same.
That's not how game development works. It's not made to order. Your feedback is taken into account, but only shapes a very small part of the overall game. After all, Bioware has full creative control when making their games. They don't let their fans ride shotgun when making a game. If they did, nothing would get done, because no one would agree on anything. You're only there to play and critique their games, not to produce them with Bioware.
Yes, vote with your wallet, because riots on the internet didn't get you a new ending and they certainly won't get you the game you want them to make.
Riots on the internet? Hyperbole much?
Anyway, I'll vote with my wallet and watch BioWare fail again on it's journey to join Westwood Studios and Pandemic Studios,
Not much of a hyperbole considering that pretty much what happened during ME3 release.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 3:39:39 GMT
Would people want a remaster of ME1 with ME3-style combat? I mean, obviously the combat of ME1 is not the highlight, but I kind of enjoy the disc-throw grenades how the shotguns feel compared to ME2+3. Thoughts? Nope. Nope nope nope nope nope! They went into wrong direction in the combat IMHO, MEA recovered it a lot for me though. What exactly was so different between ME3 and Andromeda's combat that would warrant a "wrong direction"? Andromeda's combat is just a slightly more refined version of ME3's.
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Post by cloud9 on Jan 8, 2019 4:47:25 GMT
Nope. Nope nope nope nope nope! They went into wrong direction in the combat IMHO, MEA recovered it a lot for me though. What exactly was so different between ME3 and Andromeda's combat that would warrant a "wrong direction"? Andromeda's combat is just a slightly more refined version of ME3's. The Unreal Engine is far superior than Frostbite for one, and the animations are a lot better and a smoother than Andromeda.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 8, 2019 6:27:16 GMT
Nope. Nope nope nope nope nope! They went into wrong direction in the combat IMHO, MEA recovered it a lot for me though. What exactly was so different between ME3 and Andromeda's combat that would warrant a "wrong direction"? Andromeda's combat is just a slightly more refined version of ME3's. Its been a few months, but from what I recall the combat camera was further back from Ryder in Andromeda. There were a couple of other differences for they still have the party controls and pause mechanics in ME3 and removed in Andromeda. Not sure if this counts, but the open skill system was also introduced in Andromeda. ME3 felt like an evolution of combat from ME2, but Andromeda felt like it was inspired by ME3 if that makes any sense. I don't think it was bad either, just a lot more in the modern FPS field then any of the prior games for they felt like they were playing catch up before.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 6:31:45 GMT
What exactly was so different between ME3 and Andromeda's combat that would warrant a "wrong direction"? Andromeda's combat is just a slightly more refined version of ME3's. Its been a few months, but from what I recall the combat camera was further back from Ryder in Andromeda. There were a couple of other differences for they still have the party controls and pause mechanics in ME3 and removed in Andromeda. Not sure if this counts, but the open skill system was also introduced in Andromeda. ME3 felt like an evolution of combat from ME2, but Andromeda felt like it was inspired by ME3 if that makes any sense. I don't think it was bad either, just a lot more in the modern FPS field then any of the prior games for they felt like they were playing catch up before. I agree with this but my main point of contention was the "wrong direction" quote. If Andromeda was a more refined (inspired) version of ME3 then that comment doesn't make any sense. Edit: Love the profile pic. One of my top anime. Loved the ending...
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