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Post by TheEmptyRoad on Jan 15, 2019 17:50:49 GMT
Would it be weird for my Surface Dwarf LadyQuisitor to have AWR's british accent? Are their any surface dwarves with non-american accents?
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Post by thats1evildude on Jan 15, 2019 19:01:34 GMT
I haven’t heard any British lady dwarves. But I don’t think it’s a huge problem, as Thedas is pretty hodgepodge with accents.
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Post by House Targaryen on Jan 15, 2019 19:25:16 GMT
A dwarf that was raised in a "British" speaking area of Thedas would have the accent.
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Post by melbella on Jan 15, 2019 20:36:50 GMT
I couldn't use it. I had to ditch the character and start over when I picked that voice by mistake. Too much wrong for me.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jan 16, 2019 5:41:58 GMT
Would it be weird for my Surface Dwarf LadyQuisitor to have AWR's british accent? Are their any surface dwarves with non-american accents? For me it would be about what RP can work and how the game supports it. In this case, I think the game does, if you like the voice and want to use it.
House Cadash was exiled from Orzammar generations ago. It's quite reasonable that the family picked up the accent after living on the surface for so long. In comparison, Varric's family is from Orzammar, so it might make sense for him to have an accent similar to the majority of his family.
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Post by Blaze on Jan 16, 2019 9:03:53 GMT
i have two female dwarves characters, both have the british voice. didn't felt weird once.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Jan 16, 2019 11:44:14 GMT
If you're in the Carta you may have had need to blend in with the tall folks over the years, and picked up some of their accent along the way. If it sits well with you then go for it, that's the main thing. There's always the mirror as a backup.
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Post by themikefest on Jan 16, 2019 12:26:55 GMT
My one dwarf female playthrough I used the Montano voice. It was the only time I used her voice. I prefer AWR's voice.
I say use her voice. If during the game it feels weird, use the mirror, in the Black Emporium, as the above poster suggested
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 16, 2019 14:36:59 GMT
Logically I think most people, regardless of race, would have accents that reflect where they grew up. Yet Harding who grew up on a farm in Ferelden still has a "dwarven" accent. I guess you could say she picked it up from her parents, but considering EVERYONE else around her was a human/elf, it's a bit odd. At least Varric has the excuse of being around the Merchants' Guild all the time and a very dwarfy family with strong ties to Orzammar.
Yet Bodahn has an English accent, and he's from Orzammar LOL. And lots of elves and some humans have American accents.
So I say do what you like. AWR's voice is a little posh for a Carta bruiser, imo, but you could always say that your dwarf was a specialist spy who wanted to blend in with the educated human nobles and mages, and adopted the accent that way.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jan 16, 2019 18:32:28 GMT
Would it be weird for my Surface Dwarf LadyQuisitor to have AWR's british accent? Are their any surface dwarves with non-american accents? I think it depends on how you want to RP them for example I'm planning my Qunari for my current run to be a somewhat quirky character not your typical Qunari. She will share some characteristics like in some cases a lack of patience but she will show a caring nature to those she is close and friendly with. Because I think these characteristics will work best with Alix's voice that's the one I'll be picking. I haven't started her yet but that's mainly because I'm still playing Origins as I wanted to work through the whole series on this run just as I'm working through a full run of the ME series as well.
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Post by Sifr on Jan 16, 2019 23:02:55 GMT
A dwarf that was raised in a "British" speaking area of Thedas would have the accent. Varric and Harding grew up in "British"-sounding Kirkwall and Ferelden, yet they still have "American" accents.
It seems that even Surface Dwarves are pretty insular as communities, so that might be why they retain the traditional "Orzammar" accent rather than adopting Fereldan/Marcher accents. Maybe if you headcanon it that your Dwarf was born further afield, then it might make sense why they've lost the accent, because they haven't spent enough time among other Dwarves to retain it? Yet Bodahn has an English accent, and he's from Orzammar LOL. Yeah, but my money's on Bodahn's pseudo-English accent being fake.
Cause it's totally in-character for Bodahn to be putting on an accent, thinking that it makes him sound more "posh" and "upper class". Maybe it started back when he was in Orzammar and he was trying to attract noble clientele to his store and he's been putting on the accent for so long now, it's ended up replacing his "normal" voice.
(There's no in-game evidence for this, it's simply my headcanon for why he's the only British-sounding Dwarf in existence)
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 18, 2019 19:08:34 GMT
There's no in-game evidence for this, it's simply my headcanon for why he's the only British-sounding Dwarf in existence The thing is back in DAO I don't think they had decided upon any particular accent for the various non-human races. The Dalish elves had not yet acquired Irish accents and humans from the presumed lower classes didn't have English regional accents that actually have nothing to do with class. So I assume they just cast the voice actor for Bodahn because he seemed right for the role and then were stuck with him subsequently even though he no longer seemed to fit with the variety of accents they decided to give to the various groups. Remember Merrill is the only Dalish elf in DA2 with a Welsh accent, apparently because she was cast when they thought they were going to make all Dalish Welsh but then couldn't find enough people with the Welsh accent to cover the other roles but apparently could find a proliferation of Irish. So the Dalish became Irish sounding. Except our Inquisitor of course. Then the agent of Solas in Trespasser suddenly pops up with a pronounced Welsh accent, unlike Solas whose accent is more subtle, suggesting that perhaps ancient elves have a monopoly on this accent. What I find strange is that if all the Dalish originally descended from Tevinter slaves, who in turn were descended from the survivors of Arlathan (Welsh?), where did the Irish accent come from? Then we have a whole mess of accents for humans. Blackwall originated in the Freemarches but has an English regional accent, whereas Sebastian is from Starkhaven and has a Scottish accent. Then there is Sera who also has an English regional accent, which as I say above has nothing to do with class, except that the casting crew seem to think that it does and to have a regional accent indicates you are from a low class background. So really I don't think it matters if your Carta dwarf does sound a somewhat refined English speaker as the accents are really all over the place.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jan 18, 2019 22:03:36 GMT
So really I don't think it matters if your Carta dwarf does sound a somewhat refined English speaker as the accents are really all over the place. Not for dwarf. Bodahn, and I think I also heard it with Sandal, are the O N L Y dwarves in the entire franchise with a British accent. I'd say that American-accented dwarves were pretty much fixed from the beginning.
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Post by masterwarderz on Jan 18, 2019 22:09:49 GMT
as Thedas is pretty hodgepodge with accents. I know right? Its almost as if every third person shares the same voice and sentence structuring or something...
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Post by Sifr on Jan 19, 2019 2:49:58 GMT
What I find strange is that if all the Dalish originally descended from Tevinter slaves, who in turn were descended from the survivors of Arlathan (Welsh?), where did the Irish accent come from? It might be easier to suggest that people from Ancient Elvhenan spoke with strong Celtic accents, which could explain why some Elves (both Ancient and Modern) speak with Welsh accents and others sound far more Irish? Using that explanation, we could also encounter some Dalish clans that sound Cornish, Manx, Breton or Scottish.
(Although Scots seems to have been taken by Starkhaven and I think we've seen some Cornish sounding Fereldans before?)
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 19, 2019 17:36:56 GMT
Not for dwarf. Bodahn, and I think I also heard it with Sandal, are the O N L Y dwarves in the entire franchise with a British accent. I'd say that American-accented dwarves were pretty much fixed from the beginning. If this was the case then why did they give them British accents? I would think it more a case that they hadn't decided upon a fixed dwarven accent and the majority of the voice actors they were using were American. It might be easier to suggest that people from Ancient Elvhenan spoke with strong Celtic accents, which could explain why some Elves (both Ancient and Modern) speak with Welsh accents and others sound far more Irish? Using that explanation, we could also encounter some Dalish clans that sound Cornish, Manx, Breton or Scottish. That would make sense except as you point out they decided to make Sebastian Scottish. Also there is really no such thing as a Celtic accent; only a Celtic root language that is spread across the regions you mention. Each of those countries/regions has a different accent, just as there are a variety of accents among the English. I suppose this could explain the differences though, as the regional ancient elf accent in northern Thedas (Arlathan Forest) was Irish and in southern Thedas (Mythal and Fen'Harel's domain) was Welsh. Still, as I point out above, I don't think they had decided to give any race a particular regional accent in DAO but then for some reason came up with the idea for DA2. This meant retroactively giving the Sabrae clan Irish accents when they hadn't had them before and following on from that every Dalish clan (except apparently Lavellan). Our elven Inquisitor now stands out as oddly different in the same way that people find Bodahn does among the dwarves.
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Post by boxofscreaming on Jan 19, 2019 19:15:19 GMT
The English accented voices make most sense for a human. American would be appropriate for a dwarf or qunari, whereas for Dalish elves there really isn't an appropriate voice, so you'd have to just go with what you like, though American arguably makes more sense as the Dalish had American accents in Origins.
Of course, you could no doubt imagine some surface dwarves using the dominant English accents of the Free Marches, but we've not really seen it in the games (Bodahn talks like that because he's a wheeler-dealer, surely, and that's what all wheeler-dealers talk like).
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jan 19, 2019 20:49:29 GMT
If this was the case then why did they give them British accents? I would think it more a case that they hadn't decided upon a fixed dwarven accent and the majority of the voice actors they were using were American. Again, Bodahn is the only one among dwarves. Some actors, like Gideon Emery, put on an American accent. I don't see how your theory follows from that at all.
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Post by Sifr on Jan 20, 2019 4:25:34 GMT
It might be easier to suggest that people from Ancient Elvhenan spoke with strong Celtic accents, which could explain why some Elves (both Ancient and Modern) speak with Welsh accents and others sound far more Irish? Using that explanation, we could also encounter some Dalish clans that sound Cornish, Manx, Breton or Scottish. That would make sense except as you point out they decided to make Sebastian Scottish. Also there is really no such thing as a Celtic accent; only a Celtic root language that is spread across the regions you mention. Each of those countries/regions has a different accent, just as there are a variety of accents among the English. I suppose this could explain the differences though, as the regional ancient elf accent in northern Thedas (Arlathan Forest) was Irish and in southern Thedas (Mythal and Fen'Harel's domain) was Welsh. You're right, I misspoke when I said "accents" rather than "languages". I meant to suggest that like with how Celtic languages changed and shifted as they spread across Europe and the British Isles, the Ancient Elven language may have undergone similar shifts, both over time and geographically, as the language spread across the empire.
The accents might also be indicative of what form of Elvish was used by the speaker's ancestors?
For example, Solas and the Sentinels seem to have more Welsh-sounding accents, which might indicate that they speak an older form of the language ("Old Elvish") that came from time of Elvhenan and before the Veil.
Whereas the Sabre and other Dalish clans seem to speak with more Irish-sounding accents, which may be a more recent form of Elven ("Modern/Middle Elvish) derived just prior to the fall of the Elvhenan, during their time as slaves in Tevinter or when they attempted to re-establish themselves and their language in the Dales.
Merrill's "Welsh" accent was explained as her originally being from another clan and transferring to the Sabrae clan to serve as Marethari's First. So based on the above speculation, could mean she's either descended from people who lived in a region of the Elven Empire that spoke with "Welsh" accents, or her clan descended from Elves who spoke an older form of the language?
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Post by mikoto on Jan 31, 2019 20:07:40 GMT
Well, I think the game does support the possibility of a Dwarven Inquisitor with a British accent/voice. Its all in how you write the background of the character I think. House Cadash has been exiled from Orzammar for generations and has lived on the surface for generations. Unless I'm mistaken regardless of race the Inquisitor is always from the Free Marches but they don't specify where in the Free Marches.
So if I personally were considering making a Dwarf Inquisitor with a British accent I would write that s/he was mostly raised in or around Ostwick which has a lot of cultural ties to Ferelden. I'd also write that the Dwarf Inquisitor's family had lived in or around Ostwick for generations. This would ensure that my theoretical Dwarf Inquisitor had parents who had British accents as well as being raised in and around a city dominated by British accents. I would imagine only after the Dwarf Inquisitor reached maturity/late teens that s/he would have started travelling from city to city all across the Free Marches in pursuit of profitable lyrium smuggling for the Carta.
In this scenario where the Dwarf Inquisitor has been raised almost exclusively around British accents then s/he would naturally gain one him/herself. And that's how I'd explain it if I were interested in it.
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