Cunning redundancy

With all due respect and I'm not trying to be an asshole but that list is only partially correct. The 80% is correct however 170 is not fully correct..Let me explain

The RPG element of a basic +5 stat base stat for that specific class, applies to the 3 class types in this game even though the screen itself does not actually reflect this

Warriors already start with a built in +5 constitution

Mages already start with a built in +5 Willpower

Rogues already start with a built in +5 Cunning

Because of this,

Each class will have reached the maximum defense stat in their own category before the other classes do.

Example:

Melee defense for warriors is actually reached at 165, but mage and rogue classes still require a constitution of 170 in order to reach max melee defense for them. This same process applies to rogues with cunning, and mages for willpower.

I just wanted to add that in for total accuracy.

You would assume both, however data mining that people did on this was totally pointless because the Devs had already shared this information.

A little known fact about data mining 99.9% of gamers fail to understand. Gamers seem to follow a pattern of complex graphs and what seems to be logic explanation done on various websites held in high standards, with information players hold in some high regard. So when real information comes out...it gets compared and argued. It's as if the players that hold the websites and people in some high regard, are being insulted that someone come along and say otherwise..even when it's true...The whole , How dare you, you're a troll" mentality gets brought up. Without all the data (Which would be the information from the devs) it's impossible to data mine and say for certain, it's simply not possible. It would be the exact same thing as having a mathematician claim they managed to figure out the solution to a formula without having the key components in the formula listed in the problem present. Sure the mathematician can come up with all sorts of theories, and make it appear totally logical due to explanation, but in the end there is no way they would be able to do it without having the key components. The mathematician can even come up with logical explanations as to why the key components aren't needed and it can still be done without them, and even make that sound legit and even convince people to argue against people who point out the key components are not present so how was solving it possible. That is what happens with data mining..the key competences are the information the devs have, and without that information, it's impossible to say one way or the other if the information being used and gathered is actually accurate..again it will appear accurate because that's all there is to work with...but without the missing information it cannot be argued either way as a fact.

Here is the deal:

Data mining without all the behind the scenes information, is simply not accurate. It can be assumed, but without the actual information confirmed by the devs, it's just another theory that people will apply logic which on the surface only appears to make sense but when you take it apart and actually go through it piece by piece, you can see that it's not as accurate as people make it out to be....Again let me explain.

Regardless of what people take apart and look at, the fact remains is they do not have the actual connection to the data they see, and how it gets applied in the game. So it becomes a theory with one sided logic applied to it, so the testing will come across as accurate.

The reality is that the behind the scenes data is actually needed in order to actually confirm it. And to clarify something...Using data a player can see, and using that data to test according to how the game actually applies it, are 2 completely different results..So of course the testing people do with the data they see will work, but without the behind the scenes data, people are not actually doing true testing. Players way of testing is not actual testing so of course those numbers work which is why gamers in general will take a stand point that their testing is accurate..Again it's only accurate according to what they're doing.

The reason testing cannot be done correctly without the behind the scenes data is simply because you cannot undo a specific scenario to see the difference.

Testing without the behind the scenes data can only be done if what you just tested could be restarted and have something different done with the exact same layout and everything.  Sure the red Templar are red Templar however the maps they're on, where they stand, are they in the middle of an animation, do they take less or more damage while moving, did you hit them standing still...Also you have to know if the red Templar shadow you just killed, was the exact same one the game just spawned. All of these questions cannot be answered because the only one with the behind the scenes data, are the devs, and that is the data needed, in order to do actual and accurate testing.