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Post by doflamingodonquijote on Sept 8, 2017 10:47:01 GMT
With my Warden, I just chalk it up to love clouding his judgment. Morrigan was being paranoid and the grimoire's intructions on how to perform a soul transfer ritual don't specifically say it's gonna be used on Flemeth's daughters. Huh. I did a DR pt all the way through the DLCs once and I don't remember the Architect saying that. Oghren even mentions a dream in Awakening where he hears a question 'where is the child?' It is Architect's desire to severe the link between the old gods and darkspawn. Where can you get an access to an old god that can't defend itself yet for your experiments? Of course he's going to go after that baby. I don't recall him saying it either on a warden who didn't do the ritual though. In my opinion if you're romancing Morrigan, than I don't know about what's best for Ferelden, but for that specific story arc it would be best to do the ritual, eliminate any potential threats to the child and at the end of the Witch Hunt to go with Morrigan through the portal. This way that child will be the safest. Yes, if you're romancing Morrigan than I can't think of a better incentive to kill Flemmeth. She is an ancient abomination after all. The Architect didn't wanted to create an Archdemon and even if he had done nothing the darkspawns (after 400 years of research from the 4th blight)were already near that old god Urthemiel.If you ask me the Architect should have had only killed that old god in his sleep rather than make experiments. I can't understand why one should give the spirit of an old god to Morrigan or Flemeth?The first is a sociopath that adviced many times to kill several people along the road during the adventure without any reason(so of course she deserve no trust whatsoever from my part),while her mommy it's an eldrich abomination fused with a spirit of vengeance,they are the last persons who should be given access to such power(last persons...well the bald elf is even worse and now he has it) ......not to mention that there is no reason to trust old gods either as I doubt they were imprisoned for no reason and last time they ruled,Thedas was an empire of slaves,so I doubt old gods are "innocent" like you said. I think it's better to kill the 4 of them for the sake of the world,(the elf,the old god,Flemeth and Morrigan) |
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Oghren even mentions a dream in Awakening where he hears a question 'where is the child?' It is Architect's desire to severe the link between the old gods and darkspawn. Where can you get an access to an old god that can't defend itself yet for your experiments? Of course he's going to go after that baby. I don't recall him saying it either on a warden who didn't do the ritual though. In my opinion if you're romancing Morrigan, than I don't know about what's best for Ferelden, but for that specific story arc it would be best to do the ritual, eliminate any potential threats to the child and at the end of the Witch Hunt to go with Morrigan through the portal. This way that child will be the safest. Yes, if you're romancing Morrigan than I can't think of a better incentive to kill Flemmeth. She is an ancient abomination after all. The Architect didn't wanted to create an Archdemon and even if he had done nothing the darkspawns (after 400 years of research from the 4th blight)were already near that old god Urthemiel.If you ask me the Architect should have had only killed that old god in his sleep rather than make experiments. I can't understand why one should give the spirit of an old god to Morrigan or Flemeth?The first is a sociopath that adviced many times to kill several people along the road during the adventure without any reason(so of course she deserve no trust whatsoever from my part),while her mommy it's an eldrich abomination fused with a spirit of vengeance,they are the last persons who should be given access to such power(last persons...well the bald elf is even worse and now he has it) ......not to mention that there is no reason to trust old gods either as I doubt they were imprisoned for no reason and last time they ruled,Thedas was an empire of slaves,so I doubt old gods are "innocent" like you said. I think it's better to kill the 4 of them for the sake of the world,(the elf,the old god,Flemeth and Morrigan) That makes sense from a perspective of a different Warden. A Warden who romances Morrigan and gives her the child would have a powerful incentive to defend his family. This means eliminating Flemmeth and the Architect who are powerful threats. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 12:27:25 GMT
When Flemeth indicated that she would be following the Wardens on their adventures, there is an interchange of honest to goodness affection between them. Morrigan is fussing over leaving the soup on and Flemeth eating appropriately, Flemeth gets dramatic about the Blight. Morrigan frowns and looks sad, because her mother just trivialized her concern for her. Flemeth realizes she's hurt her daughter and comforts her, briefly, then makes it sound like going is something Morrigan has always wanted. One can wonder if that weren't all an act put on so that the Warden's would take Morrigan but it always came off as utterly sincere. Then the next thing you hear from Morrigan about her mother is in Lothering, where she implies she'd laugh if Flemeth is dead. Not that I don't believe in Morrigan contradicting herself, but in this case I believe she said she'd laugh simply to psyche Alistair out and win the argument. I believe she doesn't want any affection to be used against her as a weapon and therefore would deny it. There is always duality with Morrigan because she seems bitter that people without knowing anything about her would slap 'wicked witch of the wilds' label onto her forehead. Yet, she works diligently on inflating this myth even when people actually do try to learn about her. Being hailed the Devil has it's advantages for intimidation purposes and would cause people to think twice before acting out against her or saying anything that might hurt her even if she would deny being hurt at all. |
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Post by doflamingodonquijote on Sept 9, 2017 11:01:22 GMT
The Architect didn't wanted to create an Archdemon and even if he had done nothing the darkspawns (after 400 years of research from the 4th blight)were already near that old god Urthemiel.If you ask me the Architect should have had only killed that old god in his sleep rather than make experiments. I can't understand why one should give the spirit of an old god to Morrigan or Flemeth?The first is a sociopath that adviced many times to kill several people along the road during the adventure without any reason(so of course she deserve no trust whatsoever from my part),while her mommy it's an eldrich abomination fused with a spirit of vengeance,they are the last persons who should be given access to such power(last persons...well the bald elf is even worse and now he has it) ......not to mention that there is no reason to trust old gods either as I doubt they were imprisoned for no reason and last time they ruled,Thedas was an empire of slaves,so I doubt old gods are "innocent" like you said. I think it's better to kill the 4 of them for the sake of the world,(the elf,the old god,Flemeth and Morrigan) That makes sense from a perspective of a different Warden. A Warden who romances Morrigan and gives her the child would have a powerful incentive to defend his family. This means eliminating Flemmeth and the Architect who are powerful threats. I don't give priority to perspectives if they are detached from how the story progress,perspectives built on facts are more relevant to me,and facts says that Flemethmythal has the Archdemon soul not Morrigan and neither the warden. They can have all the incetive they desire in Origins but that will not change the fact that this old god choosed Flemeth in the end and not the child of Morrigan,therefore that means that Warden/Morrigan poorly valuated the situation and now the world is gambled because of them both(of course only in certain world-states) |
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Post by skrillex on Sept 28, 2017 13:47:52 GMT
Morrigan always speak about how people should be self reliant. WTF did that go?
Don't you dare try to take some time out of your day to make someone's life easier. Unless of course you're helping Morrigan. Then its A OK!
What makes it worse is that she DOES NOT learn ANYTHING from that. NOTHING.
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