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The Alliance System & Guilds Feb 2, 2019 18:22:34 GMT via mobile lennybusker and monkeylungs like this

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Post by hawkspian on Feb 2, 2019 18:22:34 GMT

Feb 2, 2019 2:10:22 GMT biggydx said:

Feb 2, 2019 2:04:48 GMT lennybusker said:

It was probably scheduled for fall release before they rebooted it into an online-only looter shooter.

Anyway this is yet again pointlessly confusing nonsense from this game. Why try to reinvent the wheel? Just have guilds/clans! Also in a way it's pretty much another ripoff of Destiny's clans, with D2 awarding you loot when people in your clan accomplish things.

I don't play MMO's, but I always thought being in a clan gave rewards and benefits. Doesn't Warframe have benefits to clan systems? I remember the Dojo system, but I never joined a clan and I stopped playing once I got to Saturn.

In anthem you get coin not loot, loot would've been nice. This is the equivalent of getting glimmer for your clan doing the nightfall. Lol

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Post by legbamel on Feb 2, 2019 19:59:31 GMT

From the description in the game I got that it was more an aggregate of your favorites, people on your friends list, and people you played with, taking the top 5 earners from that pool and calculating the total from there. Why would you need a guild on top of alliances, otherwise? They could just use alliances as step one of the guild-building process, bringing in guild halls and bonuses to existing alliances. Then again, maybe I completely misunderstood and you'll have to "belong" to an alliance. Wouldn't that imply some sort of acceptance into the alliance and then some way to boot people, though? I'm finding the whole thing pretty unclear.

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Feb 2, 2019 18:03:14 GMT PapaCharlie9 said:

Feb 2, 2019 14:50:46 GMT DragonRacer said:

Well, poo. The very first thing I was gonna do when launching the game Feb. 22nd was get Guild BSN started on PS4, then move on to actually playing.

Had to wade through a lot of salt to get to this essential point. The headline isn't NO GUILDs, the headline is FREE COIN FOR ZERO EFFORT!

Calling all mods, SofaJockey , DragonRacer , @grinch : can we get permathreads, or maybe whole subs, made for Alliance formation? We'll need one each for PC, PS4 and Xbox.

Might consider combining with LFG, but on the other hand, people may already have a group, but want to pad out their Alliances with BSN members. As currently formulated, there's no downside to padding out, so maybe all we need is a single thread per platform with people posting their Origin/EA account name (or whatever is required to be added to an Alliance), and we can just have one big one.

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The Alliance System & Guilds Feb 2, 2019 21:16:23 GMT

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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Feb 2, 2019 21:16:23 GMT

Feb 2, 2019 18:08:11 GMT PapaCharlie9 said:

I'm assuming that once you are the member of an Alliance, you can't be a member of another Alliance, but does anyone have a source/citation/confirmation?

Got an answer from BioChrisSchmidt

Me: Confirming: once you are a member of an Alliance, you can't be a member of another Alliance?

BioChrisSchmidt: No, you can be a member of as many Alliances as you have friends.

www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheGame/comments/am7wx2/update_on_alliance_system_and_guilds/efm3tfh/

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The Alliance System & Guilds Feb 3, 2019 0:35:54 GMT

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Post by lennybusker on Feb 3, 2019 0:35:54 GMT

An Alliance is not a "thing" to be a part of. It's simply you and the top 5 earners on your friends list. If you poopsock the game and a bunch of people add you you'll be in many alliances.

Feb 2, 2019 19:59:31 GMT legbamel said:

From the description in the game I got that it was more an aggregate of your favorites, people on your friends list, and people you played with, taking the top 5 earners from that pool and calculating the total from there. Why would you need a guild on top of alliances, otherwise? They could just use alliances as step one of the guild-building process, bringing in guild halls and bonuses to existing alliances. Then again, maybe I completely misunderstood and you'll have to "belong" to an alliance. Wouldn't that imply some sort of acceptance into the alliance and then some way to boot people, though? I'm finding the whole thing pretty unclear.

Why would you need a guild? To do things like keep a list of likeminded people or people from certain websites, gaming clans etc together and available for mission invites. The same reason every game has clans/guilds.

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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 3, 2019 2:15:15 GMT

Maybe it's so and no guilds because guilds naturally fluctuate. They thrive, whither and die and new ones spring up all the time. Maybe it's more cost efficient? Server storage? Or there is a benefit in persistent "allianceguilds"? Then again, is it so bad to have people moving between guilds and have that social component in a flow?

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Feb 2, 2019 21:16:23 GMT PapaCharlie9 said:

Feb 2, 2019 18:08:11 GMT PapaCharlie9 said:

I'm assuming that once you are the member of an Alliance, you can't be a member of another Alliance, but does anyone have a source/citation/confirmation?

Got an answer from BioChrisSchmidt

Me: Confirming: once you are a member of an Alliance, you can't be a member of another Alliance?

BioChrisSchmidt: No, you can be a member of as many Alliances as you have friends.

www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheGame/comments/am7wx2/update_on_alliance_system_and_guilds/efm3tfh/

I still don't understand, if the Alliance is your friends list, wouldn't that just be one alliance? Do you include X group of friends in one alliance, Y group in another, picking and choosing as you go? Once they get around to guilds, will your guild count as an alliance?
This is all unnecessarily complicated.

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Post by lennybusker on Feb 3, 2019 2:54:35 GMT

Feb 3, 2019 2:24:46 GMT Talon said:

Feb 2, 2019 21:16:23 GMT PapaCharlie9 said:

Got an answer from BioChrisSchmidt

Me: Confirming: once you are a member of an Alliance, you can't be a member of another Alliance?

BioChrisSchmidt: No, you can be a member of as many Alliances as you have friends.

www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheGame/comments/am7wx2/update_on_alliance_system_and_guilds/efm3tfh/

I still don't understand, if the Alliance is your friends list, wouldn't that just be one alliance? Do you include X group of friends in one alliance, Y group in another, picking and choosing as you go? Once they get around to guilds, will your guild count as an alliance?
This is all unnecessarily complicated.

You and the top 5 earners on your friends list is your Alliance. Your friend Smeagol has you and probably 4 other people on their friends list, and that's Smeagol's Alliance. You don't pick anything, except the people on your friends list. The game sets up your Alliance.

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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Feb 3, 2019 3:00:21 GMT

Feb 3, 2019 2:54:35 GMT lennybusker said:

Feb 3, 2019 2:24:46 GMT Talon said:

I still don't understand, if the Alliance is your friends list, wouldn't that just be one alliance? Do you include X group of friends in one alliance, Y group in another, picking and choosing as you go? Once they get around to guilds, will your guild count as an alliance?
This is all unnecessarily complicated.

You and the top 5 earners on your friends list is your Alliance. Your friend Smeagol has you and probably 4 other people on their friends list, and that's Smeagol's Alliance. You don't pick anything, except the people on your friends list. The game sets up your Alliance.

This.

It's not an organization, as lenny said. It's an incentive to play with other people, rather than solo. They don't even have to be on your friends list -- if you happen to play with a stranger and that stranger's activity is in the top 5 across everyone else you know or played with, they still count.

YOUR Alliance is a bucket into which the activity (XP earned) of everyone else that happens to be playing in the same instance gets dumped. There are probably multipliers/boosters for if they are on your friends list (same instance or not) and probably a bigger booster if you play with a friend in the same instance, but it all counts to some extent.

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Post by Talon on Feb 3, 2019 3:02:55 GMT

Feb 3, 2019 2:54:35 GMT lennybusker said:

Feb 3, 2019 2:24:46 GMT Talon said:

I still don't understand, if the Alliance is your friends list, wouldn't that just be one alliance? Do you include X group of friends in one alliance, Y group in another, picking and choosing as you go? Once they get around to guilds, will your guild count as an alliance?
This is all unnecessarily complicated.

You and the top 5 earners on your friends list is your Alliance. Your friend Smeagol has you and probably 4 other people on their friends list, and that's Smeagol's Alliance. You don't pick anything, except the people on your friends list. The game sets up your Alliance.

Ah, I think I see. This quote:BioChrisSchmidt: No, you can be a member of as many Alliances as you have friends. is what threw me off. The Alliance changes depending on who the top 5 earners are every week, then, and your friends list is the pool from which it's drawn. Thanks!

Edit: Pool includes anyone you group with.

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The Alliance System & Guilds Feb 3, 2019 10:42:18 GMT

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Nevertheless, more friends = a greater chance of being Allied to players who are pulling in XP, yes?

So more friends = a good idea.

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Feb 3, 2019 10:42:18 GMT SofaJockey said:

Nevertheless, more friends = a greater chance of being Allied to players who are pulling in XP, yes?

So more friends = a good idea.

Reminds me of Facebook games. :lol:

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Post by SofaJockey on Feb 11, 2019 17:55:52 GMT

Chris Schmidt made a point that you don't need to collect friends endlessly because it only 'counts' the most prolific 5.

Though it stands to reason that if you have a few more friends, the 'best 5' are likely to collect more XP when selected from a larger pool of friends.

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Post by bshep on Feb 11, 2019 18:20:14 GMT

So it is pretty much just a ingame friends list?

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Feb 11, 2019 18:20:14 GMT bshep said:

So it is pretty much just a ingame friends list?

Basically it rewards you for having friends who play a lot seems like.

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Post by SofaJockey on Feb 11, 2019 20:45:19 GMT

Yes.

Guilds, however, are something different.

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Post by helios969 on Feb 11, 2019 21:10:07 GMT

I just have two questions: Who's going hard toward GM3? And can we be buddies?

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Feb 11, 2019 20:03:46 GMT Heimdall said:

Feb 11, 2019 18:20:14 GMT bshep said:

So it is pretty much just a ingame friends list?

Basically it rewards you for having friends who play a lot seems like.

More generally, it rewards you for playing with other people OR having friends who play a lot. One of the slots in the top 5 can be taken by a random you played with if they outrank the XP earns of your friends for the 1 week period.

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Feb 11, 2019 21:13:55 GMT helios969 said:

I just have two questions: Who's going hard toward GM3? And can we be buddies?

It's a great question. It makes perfect sense for these 'end-runners' to be on all our friends lists. :lol:

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Feb 11, 2019 21:10:07 GMT helios969 said:

I just have two questions: Who's going hard toward GM3? And can we be buddies?

Hell, I'll friend anyone who is going to go Easy mode the whole way, as long as they are a no-lifer that will grind 16 hours a day, 7 days a week. :devil:

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Feb 11, 2019 21:21:38 GMT PapaCharlie9 said:

Feb 11, 2019 21:10:07 GMT helios969 said:

I just have two questions: Who's going hard toward GM3? And can we be buddies?

Hell, I'll friend anyone who is going to go Easy mode the whole way, as long as they are a no-lifer that will grind 16 hours a day, 7 days a week. :devil:

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Post by monkeylungs on Feb 21, 2019 3:33:07 GMT

I wonder if guilds will have their own space? Maybe they could at least let guilds have their own launch bay that they could customize? Not counting on it being as cool as Warframe but I am hoping the system might be more in depth than Destiny ...

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Feb 21, 2019 3:33:07 GMT monkeylungs said:

I wonder if guilds will have their own space? Maybe they could at least let guilds have their own launch bay that they could customize? Not counting on it being as cool as Warframe but I am hoping the system might be more in depth than Destiny ...

I hope they do. Having a guild launch bay, or a door in Ft. Tarsis that leads to a guild enclave would be fantastic, and let members group up, check out everybody's Javelins, or just socialize. Customizing the space would be especially great, especially if the devs could implement guild challenges, maybe with trophies?

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Feb 11, 2019 21:21:38 GMT PapaCharlie9 said:

Feb 11, 2019 21:10:07 GMT helios969 said:

I just have two questions: Who's going hard toward GM3? And can we be buddies?

Hell, I'll friend anyone who is going to go Easy mode the whole way, as long as they are a no-lifer that will grind 16 hours a day, 7 days a week. :devil:

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