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Post by cmdrshep2183 on Feb 2, 2019 16:32:55 GMT
I actually love The Expanse but I heard the science in The Expanse is too hardcore or too real for mainstream audiences. Can there be a space opera universe that is not Star Wars or Star Trek that can appeal to the mainstream?
Is Mass Effect that universe? Can we have an exciting universe without "technobabble"?
If not then what kind of space sci fi universe can appeal to the mainstream?
I would love HBO to do a show covering the discovery of Prothean tech, first contact war, and humanity's ascent to being a powerful interstellar power.
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Post by Phantom on Feb 2, 2019 19:03:32 GMT
if the expanse is too hardcore for the mainstream, then i worry for Humanity
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Post by Sanunes on Feb 2, 2019 22:23:01 GMT
I hope not. With the cost of production in any heavy sci-fi show it would be cancelled after a season or two because of the costs involved. The way I have been seeing is the shows with a high production value last a couple of seasons and then the ones that don't have a lot of costs that go for years will get cancelled because the actor salaries get high and unsustainable with ad revenue when the viewers eventually drop off. Combined with what I would expect of "not my Shepard syndrome" I just don't think it would last long if they did decide to do it.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 3, 2019 1:08:50 GMT
I don't think it'll work. My honest opinion is that an Mass Effect TV show won't work. If you center it around Shepard, it becomes "wrong" for not following the game, or for Shepard making decisions that run contrary to the ones you chose. If it doesn't revolve around Shepard, there's a lot of work trying to make it fit into a lore that it doesn't personally adhere to.
Setting it before ME1 won't be exciting. Setting it after ME3 could potentially work. The writers would have to make a set decision on what happened after ME3. That might not be terrible but we all know it would have to be the Destroy ending. We're not getting giant Reapers watching over us. We're sure as hell not getting green tinted people. It would have to be Destroy and we see how the galaxy handles post-Reaper War life.
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Post by link2twenty on Feb 3, 2019 16:59:45 GMT
I would love to see a mass effect series on Netflix, it could just be a simple first contact war show, or an Omega buddy cop type show. I'd have concerns about how the characters looked but I trust Netflix after lost in space.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 3, 2019 20:05:17 GMT
I would be bored with a First Contact War game. Sure, it has a set background, but then we'd just have the humans and turians. Not diverse enough. It would only be at the that end we'd see other races, like the asari and salarians, intervene. Anything between then and Saren doesn't sound appealing to me. I admit I'd love see see Shepard on Elysium. Akuze would be okay but not to cool with Torfan. Thing is, I'd hate to see anything created the resembles a canon Shepard. Still, those area of Shepard's life are ripe for fleshing out. Could potentially lead up to 2183 when Shepard is made XO of the Normandy SR-1.
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Post by Ameridan on Feb 3, 2019 21:50:36 GMT
Still waiting on this movie that got announced around the time they where making ME 2.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 4, 2019 1:07:16 GMT
Still waiting on this movie that got announced around the time they where making ME 2. Yeah I could see a movie working for ME but not a TV series plus tbh ME does take a lot of stuff from TV shows that have been and gone like Star Trek X files Babylon 5 and all that. I'd like to see a movie based off one of the books perhaps like David Anderson and when he first wen tup against Saren. I could see a movie like tha tworking well but beyond that they may be pushing it.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 4, 2019 16:29:23 GMT
Still waiting on this movie that got announced around the time they where making ME 2. Yeah I could see a movie working for ME but not a TV series plus tbh ME does take a lot of stuff from TV shows that have been and gone like Star Trek X files Babylon 5 and all that. I'd like to see a movie based off one of the books perhaps like David Anderson and when he first wen tup against Saren. I could see a movie like tha tworking well but beyond that they may be pushing it. But who would watch it? It's not a huge draw for me. I'm not so sure it works for all the many other people. The reality is that when Mass Effect is brought up, people are thinking "Commander Shepard".
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 4, 2019 17:14:02 GMT
Yeah I could see a movie working for ME but not a TV series plus tbh ME does take a lot of stuff from TV shows that have been and gone like Star Trek X files Babylon 5 and all that. I'd like to see a movie based off one of the books perhaps like David Anderson and when he first wen tup against Saren. I could see a movie like tha tworking well but beyond that they may be pushing it. But who would watch it? It's not a huge draw for me. I'm not so sure it works for all the many other people. The reality is that when Mass Effect is brought up, people are thinking "Commander Shepard". Maybe but they have done movies based on video games before some have done OK other's not so much. Sometimes you just don't know until you try but if you do a movie about Shep then people will start moaning that it's not their Shep which is why I suggested if they do a movie about it it should be from one of the books. I only suggested the Anderson one with Saren as I thought it would have a few good action pieces in it as well.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 4, 2019 18:59:45 GMT
But who would watch it? It's not a huge draw for me. I'm not so sure it works for all the many other people. The reality is that when Mass Effect is brought up, people are thinking "Commander Shepard". Maybe but they have done movies based on video games before some have done OK other's not so much. Sometimes you just don't know until you try but if you do a movie about Shep then people will start moaning that it's not their Shep which is why I suggested if they do a movie about it it should be from one of the books. I only suggested the Anderson one with Saren as I thought it would have a few good action pieces in it as well. Did you watch Paragon Lost? I thought it was terrible.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 2:27:32 GMT
Maybe but they have done movies based on video games before some have done OK other's not so much. Sometimes you just don't know until you try but if you do a movie about Shep then people will start moaning that it's not their Shep which is why I suggested if they do a movie about it it should be from one of the books. I only suggested the Anderson one with Saren as I thought it would have a few good action pieces in it as well. Did you watch Paragon Lost? I thought it was terrible. That's for damn sure!
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Post by Nayawk on Feb 5, 2019 4:49:21 GMT
I've always preferred the idea of a ME tv show over a ME movie, I just like the longer format more. I'm firmly in the don't want a ME game rehash, not my shep camp though.
A very sped up version of the First Contact stuff would be fun, it is something that most people who play the games will have a passing name recognition of but most likely won't have a huge amount of knowledge about, so less blow back when they start mucking about with facts and figures.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 5, 2019 14:28:10 GMT
I want an ME show told from the viewpoint of a hanar. Drell would obviously play a huge role. That said, FCW would help ME ignore anything that doesn't work. It would require massive amounts of costuming for pretty much everyone. Garrus, Wrex/Grunt, Liara/Samara (though head thingies), Javik, Thane, Legion and Mordin. That doesn't even account for potential supporting cast or background characters. It's a massive undertaking. Then there's biotics on a regular basis. Regulars who have that are Wrex, Liara, Samara, Javik, Kaidan, Jacob and Thane.
Seems like too much work for an ongoing series. It would work better in a movie, IMO.
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 7, 2019 19:25:10 GMT
The problem with the FCW is that it was short, pointless, and kind of stupid.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 7, 2019 20:40:40 GMT
Maybe but they have done movies based on video games before some have done OK other's not so much. Sometimes you just don't know until you try but if you do a movie about Shep then people will start moaning that it's not their Shep which is why I suggested if they do a movie about it it should be from one of the books. I only suggested the Anderson one with Saren as I thought it would have a few good action pieces in it as well. Did you watch Paragon Lost? I thought it was terrible. I did but I thought it was OK have it on DVD in fact. Perhaps not the best movie but I've seen worse.
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 7, 2019 22:36:38 GMT
I never want Mass Effect to get any kind of adaptation to any screen. Games or GTFO. The interactivity adds a personal touch that served to make the universe more alluring, because you weren't just watching these conflicts, you were allowed to choose which version suited you best to some degree.
The First Contact War is poor as the basis for any kind of expanded retelling. It's just some crummy brief skirmish, but its real value is in the relationships it establishes for the characters later.
As for The Expanse, perhaps it wasn't so much "hardcore" as the characters felt kind of flat. I know I didn't really give a shit about anyone, so the production value felt like a huge waste.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 7, 2019 22:51:33 GMT
Maybe but they have done movies based on video games before some have done OK other's not so much. Sometimes you just don't know until you try but if you do a movie about Shep then people will start moaning that it's not their Shep which is why I suggested if they do a movie about it it should be from one of the books. I only suggested the Anderson one with Saren as I thought it would have a few good action pieces in it as well. Did you watch Paragon Lost? I thought it was terrible. That movie made me hate James.
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 7, 2019 22:54:59 GMT
Did you watch Paragon Lost? I thought it was terrible. That movie made me hate James. I had no intention on seeing this, so I'm really curious about why this is.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 23:00:32 GMT
That movie made me hate James. I had no intention on seeing this, so I'm really curious about why this is. When I saw the Screencap of Sovereign being towed away from the Citadel intact I knew the makers of the film had no clue what they were doing.
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Post by degs29 on Feb 8, 2019 17:49:30 GMT
The only way I can see this being successful is if a premium network (like HBO) picked it up and did it right. Most sci-fi shows are relatively high budget, while being relatively low quality, unfortunately.
While I'd love to see a premium network pick it up, and don't have the same hang-up others do about a movie or show adaptation, I just don't see it happening.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Feb 8, 2019 18:43:58 GMT
No.
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 8, 2019 20:59:49 GMT
I had no intention on seeing this, so I'm really curious about why this is. When I saw the Screencap of Sovereign being towed away from the Citadel intact I knew the makers of the film had no clue what they were doing. Oh for crying out loud. "Close enough!"
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 8, 2019 21:33:33 GMT
That movie made me hate James. I had no intention on seeing this, so I'm really curious about why this is. Basically it made his decision to choose the intel over the colony a ton worse than he made it seem when talking about it in ME3. He actively let them die to rescue the scientist with it(hate her too since she could have transmitted it since the comms clearly worked).
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 8, 2019 22:47:09 GMT
I had no intention on seeing this, so I'm really curious about why this is. Basically it made his decision to choose the intel over the colony a ton worse than he made it seem when talking about it in ME3. He actively let them die to rescue the scientist with it(hate her too since she could have transmitted it since the comms clearly worked). From the gist of it, it seemed like his description is about the same. He just didn't go too in-depth about it, and he hated what happened, especially since Shepard's actions made it irrelevant.
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