Is Apex Legends an Anthem competitor?

That’s really all there is to it. Anyone who abhors PvP of any sort is going to steer well clear of it anyway. 

That is super fan speculation...but honestly considering things I can actually believe that one more than other crackpot theories...

I hope all EA games do this going forward. 

Smart move on their part. They got the pvp competition and the stupid haters with their pants down while at the same time grabbing the attention of a lot of players. Hope they are able to keep it those numbers in the long run.

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Or maybe HORSE was just making a correlation.

Polygon thinks it's a huge problem for Anthem (and Battlefield V for that matter).

www.polygon.com/2019/2/10/18212707/apex-legends-anthem-battlefield-5-battle-royale-ea

A game does not have to be 100% identical to another game to be a competitor, just share a common space.

If a NHL Stanley Cup game comes on at 7PM EST and a NBA Finals game comes on at 7PM EST, they are still technically competing against one another. Yes, NHL fans will watch the Cup and NBA fans will watch the Finals. So in that since there isnt any conflicts. But what about those sports fans who want to watch both? To add more, what if it is game 7 for both sports and a new TV series is launching their pilot episode that night at the same time? Yes, two events are sports and another is a TV cop drama....but those viewers who would have normally viewed the pilot are now watching one of the game 7 sporting events. So you see, not everything has to be directly identical to be considered competition.

So for Anthem, a game does not have to be a coop MP PvE game to be a competitor. A game like Division 2, Apex Legends can be competitors. Games like Metro Exodus and Far Cry New Dawn are also competitors cause what if I am interested in Far Cry as well as Anthem but only have limited money/time to play one of them?

Which one is supposed to be the heavyweight? 😂😂😂

Metro is getting some good traction. Crackdown's launch almost seems to just be a joke at this point. Far Cry... it's a spin-off of a modestly well-received game. Goku something...I dunno what that is. I mean, they were more on point about Andromeda launching with heavy competition.

Sure, realistically any game is "competition" for another because they are all vying for people's bucks and time. People can like all sorts of different games, not just one, so it's hard to predict where those fans will overlap. We'll just have to wait and see. However, just based on social media and the gaming podcasts I listen to, it's Anthem's fight to lose for this launch window. Doesn't mean they won't, of course.

Yes, it's a competitor. The last ten years is proof that the majority don't have niche tastes and that they'll jump on whatever the hot new thing is, no matter what genre.

I don't see Anthem getting that chance now that Apex has stolen all their hype. EA have done them very dirty.

I figured this would be the response so why not let numbers do the talking?

Far Cry: A New Dawn. Previous titles in the series have sold extremely well, more than I would've expected for the series. Far Cry 5 broke franchise sales records, reaching $310 million in its first week (just under 5 million copies). Even Far Cry Primal managed to become the best-selling game in the US in February 2016 (of course, one should always consider the competition). I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it, even if it's not my cup of tea.

Jump Force. A fighting game in the vein of the Mortal Kombat and Injustice series, featuring characters from manga/anime such as Dragon Ball Z (which already has at least a couple of fighting games that I know of), One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, Hunter x Hunter, etc. They may not move as many units as the Far Cry series, but Dragon Ball FighterZ total sales topped 3.5 million units last October, and MKX managed to sell more than 5 million copies in 6 months.

Crackdown. I'll give you that one, it hasn't generated any traction that I'm aware of recently.

Metro: Exodus. We don't have any figures save for that one quote from the developer that claimed Last Light sold more units in its first week than 2033 did in three months. It was getting some good traction until the whole Epic Games store debacle. Now I'm not so sure. This could be Rise of the Tomb Raider all over again.

I don't think these are insignificant numbers. Sure, Andromeda had exceptional competition in the form of Horizon Zero Dawn, which sold 2.6 million units in under two weeks, and Breath of the Wild, which was tracking 10 million copies sold as of last October. In comparison, from what I've read, Andromeda sold something close to 2.5 million units in Q4 FY17, but let's not put all the blame solely on the competition on this one, shall we? Furthermore, HZD and Zelda and first-party titles, meaning their reach should be more constrained than something like Andromeda that sold across platforms. HZD and Zelda released a few days apart from each other (February 28th and March 3rd), while Andromeda released at the end of March 2017. In this case, we have 4 titles releasing on the same day, a week before Anthem (unless you have Premier Origin Access).

At the end of the day, maybe none of this will affect Anthem, but I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it.

True, but where is a reasonable place to draw the line? I mean, FIFA, BFV and The Sims are also competitors, taking your point to its logical conclusion. And why stop at games? TV, music, sports ... where the common space are things that compete for my attention. As does my family, and they mtx the hell out of my wallet.

As a very anecdotal data point, I've read numerous posts on Reddit from people coming from Destiny, The Division, Warframe, Diablo, MHW and Borderlands, expressing curiosity about Anthem or loathing as "just a clone." I have seen zero from BR players in general and zero from Fortnite specifically. From which I conclude that there is pretty good market separation, or at least a relatively small common space of interest, between BR players and loot shooter players.