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Post by biggydx on Feb 5, 2019 2:00:29 GMT
So when I originally did this poll, 45 votes were cast with the following percentage breakdown. 10 - 0% 9 - 11% 8 - 51% 7 - 24% 6 - ~7% 5 - 4% <4 - 2% Looking at the polling for this thread, it's definitely more apparent that Anthem's demo didn't move peoples perception of it in a more positive light (at least in terms of this forum). It is disappointing to see, but I don't think that's to be unexpected given the technical issues and various gameplay gripes individuals might have with the demo's.
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Post by river82 on Feb 5, 2019 2:02:31 GMT
So when I originally did this poll, 45 votes were cast with the following percentage breakdown. 10 - 0% 9 - 11% 8 - 51% 7 - 24% 6 - ~7% 5 - 4% <4 - 2% Looking at the polling for this thread, it's definitely more apparent that Anthem's demo didn't move peoples perception of it in a more positive light (at least in terms of this forum). It is disappointing to see, but I don't think that's to be unexpected given the technical issues and various gameplay gripes individuals might have with the demo's. One of the complaints I keep hearing is that actual gunplay is average compared with other shooters on the market. And that will hurt in a looter shooter
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Post by biggydx on Feb 5, 2019 2:16:42 GMT
So when I originally did this poll, 45 votes were cast with the following percentage breakdown. 10 - 0% 9 - 11% 8 - 51% 7 - 24% 6 - ~7% 5 - 4% <4 - 2% Looking at the polling for this thread, it's definitely more apparent that Anthem's demo didn't move peoples perception of it in a more positive light (at least in terms of this forum). It is disappointing to see, but I don't think that's to be unexpected given the technical issues and various gameplay gripes individuals might have with the demo's. One of the complaints I keep hearing is that actual gunplay is average compared with other shooters on the market. And that will hurt in a looter shooter I look at Anthem as more of an abilities-based games, with guns being your backup during cooldown times. The fact that combos exist kinda highlights this point. I know BioWare recently stated that they've improved gun feedback, but that remains to be seen.
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Post by bshep on Feb 5, 2019 2:30:19 GMT
Firearms in this game are more of a complement to the javelin's weapon systems. Most of my kills with the Ranger came from fire grenades and missiles.
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Post by river82 on Feb 5, 2019 2:38:35 GMT
Sure, but it limits the audience more than if guns were a viable alternative by themselves as well as abilities, and some will see it as disappointing, which depending on the author will probably affect some review scores
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Post by ShadowAngel on Feb 5, 2019 2:46:35 GMT
One of the complaints I keep hearing is that actual gunplay is average compared with other shooters on the market. And that will hurt in a looter shooter I look at Anthem as more of an abilities-based games, with guns being your backup during cooldown times. The fact that combos exist kinda highlights this point. I know BioWare recently stated that they've improved gun feedback, but that remains to be seen. The abilities really aren't that impressive though, they're limited to begin with which doesn't surprise me given Bioware continuously brings in less and less each game they're putting out. Outside of that there's a lot of games designed with abilities in mind, and as someone who plays a lot of shooters, 99% of anything new with abilities isn't that impressive as they just borrow off what's been done so creativity lacks. RB6S (more equipment really they meet the same experience nonetheless), titanfall? The newer CoDs? Halo reach-5? Destiny? They all use abilities in some sense and anthem is pretty late to the ability party🤷 I guess I'll need filled in on how it'll benefit anthem. Honestly if we had more than 3 abilities (4 if you count the ultimate) I'd feel more open to what anthems abilities could do, but I'm never going to be happy with 3 at a time as I find it extremely restrictive. I also agree with river, people are going to see this lacking gunplay wise ability game or not. I doubt many will really view it much as an RPG and with the assumptions on competing vs destiny or the division, gunplay will be brought up a lot. It's easily the best Biowares done however.
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Post by bshep on Feb 5, 2019 2:48:25 GMT
Each Javelin plays very differently from each other, the Colossus may have got more attention but play styles for the Storm is quite different from the Ranger and so is the Interceptor. And accounting for diferent loadouts i believe there is quite a few options for every taste from the 4 suits.
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Post by monkeylungs on Feb 5, 2019 3:00:25 GMT
Well, based on the demo I played, it would be an 8 to 8.5 if I was reviewing it. The content was solid despite technical hiccups. If I get to review the game I'll let you know.it's already better than Destiny as far as I'm concerned. Remind me to never visit wherever you review games at.
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Post by linksocarina on Feb 5, 2019 4:17:09 GMT
Well, based on the demo I played, it would be an 8 to 8.5 if I was reviewing it. The content was solid despite technical hiccups. If I get to review the game I'll let you know.it's already better than Destiny as far as I'm concerned. Remind me to never visit wherever you review games at. Well that's a massive 'screw you' if ever heard one.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Feb 5, 2019 4:26:58 GMT
Remind me to never visit wherever you review games at. Well that's a massive 'screw you' if ever heard one. Naw, I get it. Everyone needs their echo-chamber, amirite?
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Post by linksocarina on Feb 5, 2019 4:30:10 GMT
Well that's a massive 'screw you' if ever heard one. Naw, I get it. Everyone needs their echo-chamber, amirite? I don't believe in echo chambers. By virtue of my day job all they are the antithesis to thought. I'd hope folks would be above that.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Feb 5, 2019 4:32:47 GMT
Naw, I get it. Everyone needs their echo-chamber, amirite? I don't believe in echo chambers. By virtue of my day job all they are is the antithesis to thought. Sorry, I meant that sarcastically. I agree wholeheartedly.
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Post by monkeylungs on Feb 5, 2019 7:58:39 GMT
Remind me to never visit wherever you review games at. Well that's a massive 'screw you' if ever heard one. You haven't played the full game yet. You shrug off technical issues. You stated you have already basically come to a conclusion. That's your prerogative. More power to you. Mine is to avoid any publication you work for.
On the point of technical issues ... maybe they are all fixed for the final game. Maybe a whole host of new issues will crop up that haven't been tested in a release environment yet? It seems irresponsible to just shrug off technical issues as a game reviewer. That's more the realm of fan reviews on forums.
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Post by correctamundo on Feb 5, 2019 8:58:29 GMT
Firearms in this game are more of a complement to the javelin's weapon systems. Most of my kills with the Ranger came from fire grenades and missiles. Yes, but calling guns complement sort of downsells them if you ask me. Actually it isn't that guns are not viable it is more like spray'n'pray - run'n'gun isn't. Just like using your skills for combos aim your weapon where it hurst the most. The ash titan for instance, you could take 75% health in one shot if you hit the weak spot. Still abilities will be number one.
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Post by correctamundo on Feb 5, 2019 9:12:45 GMT
I look at Anthem as more of an abilities-based games, with guns being your backup during cooldown times. The fact that combos exist kinda highlights this point. I know BioWare recently stated that they've improved gun feedback, but that remains to be seen. The abilities really aren't that impressive though, they're limited to begin with which doesn't surprise me given Bioware continuously brings in less and less each game they're putting out. Outside of that there's a lot of games designed with abilities in mind, and as someone who plays a lot of shooters, 99% of anything new with abilities isn't that impressive as they just borrow off what's been done so creativity lacks. RB6S (more equipment really they meet the same experience nonetheless), titanfall? The newer CoDs? Halo reach-5? Destiny? They all use abilities in some sense and anthem is pretty late to the ability party🤷 I guess I'll need filled in on how it'll benefit anthem. Honestly if we had more than 3 abilities (4 if you count the ultimate) I'd feel more open to what anthems abilities could do, but I'm never going to be happy with 3 at a time as I find it extremely restrictive. I also agree with river, people are going to see this lacking gunplay wise ability game or not. I doubt many will really view it much as an RPG and with the assumptions on competing vs destiny or the division, gunplay will be brought up a lot. It's easily the best Biowares done however. Yeah, comparing Anthem to R6...same experience? Bioware is building their game on the shoulders of their own games more than Halo or CoD. They're not late to the abilities game. And since The Division very much is an arpg I don't see where the problem is? TCTD is a TPS/ARPG, if you don't build your character you will be hopelessly behind on the damage curve - just like - Anthem, you have to aim for weak spots - just like Anthem. The difference would be that you don't have to build loadouts for player killing.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Feb 5, 2019 10:03:26 GMT
It will get the full-on hate brigade treatment; 6/10 reviewers and player reviews will be in the tank.
It does nothing well enough, it is a wannabe game, and they have shot themselves in the foot with every marketing decision and "demo" release.
They will need to do DAI-level cashola to get good reviews on this farce. BioWare is dead.
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Post by majesticjazz on Feb 5, 2019 10:19:08 GMT
It will get the full-on hate brigade treatment; 6/10 reviewers and player reviews will be in the tank. It does nothing well enough, it is a wannabe game, and they have shot themselves in the foot with every marketing decision and "demo" release. They will need to do DAI-level cashola to get good reviews on this farce. BioWare is dead. I dont think too many bigger publications will give Anthem that low of a score. I still think 7/10 will be the common score we get.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Feb 5, 2019 10:23:48 GMT
It will get the full-on hate brigade treatment; 6/10 reviewers and player reviews will be in the tank. It does nothing well enough, it is a wannabe game, and they have shot themselves in the foot with every marketing decision and "demo" release. They will need to do DAI-level cashola to get good reviews on this farce. BioWare is dead. I dont think too many bigger publications will give Anthem that low of a score. I still think 7/10 will be the common score we get. All depends on the bugginess of the game they get to review, assuming they even play the games they review. You are probably right, but this game has very few positives going for it. It is not novel, and it is not the Bob Dylan of anything. Worse- Bob Dylan isn't that great to begin with! Weird looking dude, strange voice, writes a few interesting songs. Definitely should be our new title's role model :/ The whole thing stinks.
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Post by linksocarina on Feb 5, 2019 10:37:11 GMT
Well that's a massive 'screw you' if ever heard one. You haven't played the full game yet. You shrug off technical issues. You stated you have already basically come to a conclusion. That's your prerogative. More power to you. Mine is to avoid any publication you work for.
On the point of technical issues ... maybe they are all fixed for the final game. Maybe a whole host of new issues will crop up that haven't been tested in a release environment yet? It seems irresponsible to just shrug off technical issues as a game reviewer. That's more the realm of fan reviews on forums.
As I said it was based on the demo, not the full game. I do not presume to judge anything related to full quality otherwise, and I especially take offense to folks who think I would. Do not put words in my mouth, I hate when people do that. Technical issues are low priority when it comes to an overall review. If they are numerous they do affect scoring, but frankly we are in a modern context here where a games quality can be judged by support to fix bugs as much as day one patching to sort out issues. Terrible games with too many issues are the exception like Fallout 76, which is too broken to be good, not decent games where a few issues persisted on launch, like Witcher 3 as a comparison. Otherwise almost every game I play would feature lower scoring than it does because of technical hiccups. I won't know until it is in my hands to play anyway where Anthem will fall; though judging from the public demo over the VIP demo, they ironed out a large number of issues which is a promising sign. We shall see when it is released. I won't speculate otherwise, i'll leave that to you all and your forum reviews .
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Post by saandrig on Feb 5, 2019 11:05:23 GMT
All depends on the bugginess of the game they get to review, assuming they even play the games they review. You are probably right, but this game has very few positives going for it. I guess the demo wasn't received as well as Bioware hoped. No surprise there. So they do some damage control right now with claims there are many things in the main game (like pilot ability points, Tarsis changes depending on player choice, etc) which were cut from the demo. Also for the first time (that I saw) Mike Gamble comments how much story there is to play through - I think he used the words "many many missions". Now, I do hope those claims for loads of cut demo content are true, but experience taught me to be sceptical. "Many many missions" might be anything from 10 to 100. The changes to Tarsis might be like the couple of Skyhold upgrades.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Feb 5, 2019 11:28:34 GMT
Still waiting for a Skyhold that isn't a crumbling debris pile.
Nice tapestries though :/
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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 5, 2019 12:09:39 GMT
Can't really judge on a demo I feel. The Dylan-esque story-telling hasn't been experienced, the grind and loot drops hasn't been determined, the mtx haven't been reviewed, the overall gameplay in its final version has not been tested.
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Post by sil on Feb 5, 2019 14:23:54 GMT
"many many missions" doesn't mean anything if they're just the Anthem equivalent of WoW's "Kill X Wolves", though. If they're ME/DA quality storylines, that's different, but I can't see that happening.
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Post by samhain444 on Feb 5, 2019 14:43:34 GMT
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Post by smilesja on Feb 5, 2019 15:52:59 GMT
It will get the full-on hate brigade treatment; 6/10 reviewers and player reviews will be in the tank. It does nothing well enough, it is a wannabe game, and they have shot themselves in the foot with every marketing decision and "demo" release. They will need to do DAI-level cashola to get good reviews on this farce. BioWare is dead. Is there any proof that EA paid off reviewers to give DAI a good score?
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