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Post by ShadowAngel on Feb 5, 2019 16:54:39 GMT
The abilities really aren't that impressive though, they're limited to begin with which doesn't surprise me given Bioware continuously brings in less and less each game they're putting out. Outside of that there's a lot of games designed with abilities in mind, and as someone who plays a lot of shooters, 99% of anything new with abilities isn't that impressive as they just borrow off what's been done so creativity lacks. RB6S (more equipment really they meet the same experience nonetheless), titanfall? The newer CoDs? Halo reach-5? Destiny? They all use abilities in some sense and anthem is pretty late to the ability party🤷 I guess I'll need filled in on how it'll benefit anthem. Honestly if we had more than 3 abilities (4 if you count the ultimate) I'd feel more open to what anthems abilities could do, but I'm never going to be happy with 3 at a time as I find it extremely restrictive. I also agree with river, people are going to see this lacking gunplay wise ability game or not. I doubt many will really view it much as an RPG and with the assumptions on competing vs destiny or the division, gunplay will be brought up a lot. It's easily the best Biowares done however. Yeah, comparing Anthem to R6...same experience? Bioware is building their game on the shoulders of their own games more than Halo or CoD. They're not late to the abilities game. And since The Division very much is an arpg I don't see where the problem is? TCTD is a TPS/ARPG, if you don't build your character you will be hopelessly behind on the damage curve - just like - Anthem, you have to aim for weak spots - just like Anthem. The difference would be that you don't have to build loadouts for player killing. Well I never said anthem and RB6S would be the same experience, I merely said anthems abilities fit the same role as other games that use abilities and or equipment, i'm comparing bone single aspect and nothing else between the two. The RB6S characters each have their own unique equipment to them and such that have their own purpose. They're Indeed late as there's nothing special to it that I've seen. I haven't seen any article bringing it up, I haven't seen others on here bring it up and I myself have t seen it via the demo. The way I see it, they're doing abilities because that's how they've always done their games, I think doing a loot shooter without them would help stand out so long as they put something else in it's place as they're just gimmicks right now. I'd argue on anthem NOT being built off the shoulders of Biowares other games but others have already shared the differences for me. This isn't anywhere close to resembling a Bioware game but I've been open and will be open to playing it day one to try it out to the fullest extent. Biowares done new IPs that don't resemble previous work before in dragon and and mass effect, they were hits so maybe the same goes for anthem🤷 I'm just not seeing it based off the demo itself.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Feb 5, 2019 17:29:28 GMT
It will get the full-on hate brigade treatment; 6/10 reviewers and player reviews will be in the tank. It does nothing well enough, it is a wannabe game, and they have shot themselves in the foot with every marketing decision and "demo" release. They will need to do DAI-level cashola to get good reviews on this farce. BioWare is dead. Is there any proof that EA paid off reviewers to give DAI a good score? The incredible high scores for a broken game? I don't have proof you're a human being smiles. Somethings I just take on face value because of duck things. Smells like, walks like, etc.
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Post by samhain444 on Feb 5, 2019 17:39:41 GMT
Is there any proof that EA paid off reviewers to give DAI a good score? The incredible high scores for a broken game? I don't have proof you're a human being smiles. Somethings I just take on face value because of duck things. Smells like, walks like, etc. "'Dragon Age: Inquisition' has received numerous awards and nominations from gaming publications. The game has received the Game of the Year awards from Game Informer,IGN, Electronic Gaming Monthly, Hardcore Gamer, Gamereactor, SXSW Gaming Awards, Good Game, Game Revolution,Ars Technica, Associated Press, The Escapist, Polygon, Shacknews, The Game Awards, and the DICE Awards. and was nominated Game of the Year by Destructoid and IGN Australia. It was also placed on various lists of the best games of 2014, GamesRadar placed it at 2nd,Joystiq at 2nd, Cheat Code Central at 2nd, USA Today at 2nd, Empire at 9th, GameFront at 3rd, Wired at 8th,Slant Magazine at 17th and The Guardian at 14th and was considered one of the ten best games released in 2014 by Mirror.co.uk. The game also won Role-Playing Game of the Year from GamesRadar,Cheat Code Central, Game Revolution, Hardcore Gamer, Game Informer,IGN, USGamer,The Escapist, The Game Awards and the DICE Awards as well as Best Singleplayer from PC Gamer. Developer BioWare was nominated Best Developer by Game Revolution and won the Developer of the Year Award from Hardcore Gamer." Wow, that's some pervasive corruption right there and had to have strained the marketing budget with all those payoffs. Not to mention BioWare's impressive ability to suppress all mention of those payoffs in such in a environment where any click-baity YouTuber would glaze himself over that kind of scoop. BioWare is God...wait, wait, okay, maybe just a DemiGod
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Feb 5, 2019 17:46:58 GMT
^^^ well, God is Dead. You and Nietzsche killed him, by allowing decline to be proclaimed as epic gold.
You're only human, after all. Don't put the blame on me.
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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 5, 2019 17:46:58 GMT
Is there any proof that EA paid off reviewers to give DAI a good score? The incredible high scores for a broken game? I don't have proof you're a human being smiles. Somethings I just take on face value because of duck things. Smells like, walks like, etc. I dont think it is that much cash for score. There are more subtle ways. Early review copy, exclusive interview, exclusive footage, a list of aspects to please be mentioned, a polite request to review your review before it goes online.
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Post by samhain444 on Feb 5, 2019 18:10:45 GMT
^^^ well, God is Dead. You and Nietzsche killed him, by allowing decline to be proclaimed as epic gold. You're only human, after all. Don't put the blame on me. Actually, Nietzsche only pointed over to the "corpse"...it was the Renaissance through modern age that were the "murderers" Thus spoke Samhain-thustra
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Post by linksocarina on Feb 5, 2019 18:29:44 GMT
The incredible high scores for a broken game? I don't have proof you're a human being smiles. Somethings I just take on face value because of duck things. Smells like, walks like, etc. I dont think it is that much cash for score. There are more subtle ways. Early review copy, exclusive interview, exclusive footage, a list of aspects to please be mentioned, a polite request to review your review before it goes online. Trust me when I say how little that impacts a review score, and how some aspects, like requesting to read your review before publication, almost never happens.
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Post by bshep on Feb 5, 2019 18:33:50 GMT
The incredible high scores for a broken game? I don't have proof you're a human being smiles. Somethings I just take on face value because of duck things. Smells like, walks like, etc. "'Dragon Age: Inquisition' has received numerous awards and nominations from gaming publications. The game has received the Game of the Year awards from Game Informer,IGN, Electronic Gaming Monthly, Hardcore Gamer, Gamereactor, SXSW Gaming Awards, Good Game, Game Revolution,Ars Technica, Associated Press, The Escapist, Polygon, Shacknews, The Game Awards, and the DICE Awards. and was nominated Game of the Year by Destructoid and IGN Australia. It was also placed on various lists of the best games of 2014, GamesRadar placed it at 2nd,Joystiq at 2nd, Cheat Code Central at 2nd, USA Today at 2nd, Empire at 9th, GameFront at 3rd, Wired at 8th,Slant Magazine at 17th and The Guardian at 14th and was considered one of the ten best games released in 2014 by Mirror.co.uk. The game also won Role-Playing Game of the Year from GamesRadar,Cheat Code Central, Game Revolution, Hardcore Gamer, Game Informer,IGN, USGamer,The Escapist, The Game Awards and the DICE Awards as well as Best Singleplayer from PC Gamer. Developer BioWare was nominated Best Developer by Game Revolution and won the Developer of the Year Award from Hardcore Gamer." Wow, that's some pervasive corruption right there and had to have strained the marketing budget with all those payoffs. Not to mention BioWare's impressive ability to suppress all mention of those payoffs in such in a environment where any click-baity YouTuber would glaze himself over that kind of scoop. BioWare is God...wait, wait, okay, maybe just a DemiGod Anything is a excuse to throw mud at Bioware. Guess it is too hard to accept the marjority of both players and critics enjoyed the game.
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Post by samhain444 on Feb 5, 2019 18:49:18 GMT
"'Dragon Age: Inquisition' has received numerous awards and nominations from gaming publications. The game has received the Game of the Year awards from Game Informer,IGN, Electronic Gaming Monthly, Hardcore Gamer, Gamereactor, SXSW Gaming Awards, Good Game, Game Revolution,Ars Technica, Associated Press, The Escapist, Polygon, Shacknews, The Game Awards, and the DICE Awards. and was nominated Game of the Year by Destructoid and IGN Australia. It was also placed on various lists of the best games of 2014, GamesRadar placed it at 2nd,Joystiq at 2nd, Cheat Code Central at 2nd, USA Today at 2nd, Empire at 9th, GameFront at 3rd, Wired at 8th,Slant Magazine at 17th and The Guardian at 14th and was considered one of the ten best games released in 2014 by Mirror.co.uk. The game also won Role-Playing Game of the Year from GamesRadar,Cheat Code Central, Game Revolution, Hardcore Gamer, Game Informer,IGN, USGamer,The Escapist, The Game Awards and the DICE Awards as well as Best Singleplayer from PC Gamer. Developer BioWare was nominated Best Developer by Game Revolution and won the Developer of the Year Award from Hardcore Gamer." Wow, that's some pervasive corruption right there and had to have strained the marketing budget with all those payoffs. Not to mention BioWare's impressive ability to suppress all mention of those payoffs in such in a environment where any click-baity YouTuber would glaze himself over that kind of scoop. BioWare is God...wait, wait, okay, maybe just a DemiGod Anything is a excuse to throw mud at Bioware. Guess it is to hard to accept the marjority of both players and critics enjoyed the game. I remember reading articles praising getting lost in Thedas and the beautiful and complex world BioWare created prior to and months after release. It's a great game, as evidenced by it's accolades, financial performance and the visceral/emotional response #thedreadwolfrises received.
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Post by SofaJockey on Feb 9, 2019 21:48:16 GMT
With your permission biggydx , I'd like to bump and tweak this thread as we go onto trial launch week. Questions I'd like to add to the pile (include) any speculations about: - When the #AnthemGame review embargo will drop?
- Before, during or after trial week?
- Will it be reviewed as a finished game with a critical path,
- or just a review in progress GAAS?
I think we can recall that trial week did not treat Mass Effect Andromeda kindly, will this time be different?
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Post by SofaJockey on Feb 9, 2019 21:51:17 GMT
Is there any proof that EA paid off reviewers to give DAI a good score? Aside from wild speculations from the tin-foil-hat brigade, I've not seen any. Funny how the publishers 'pay for good reviews' for the good games and somehow forget with the less good games, funny that.
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Post by biggydx on Feb 9, 2019 21:56:25 GMT
With your permission biggydx , I'd like to bump and tweak this thread as we go onto trial launch week. Questions I'd like to add to the pile (include) any speculations about: - When the #AnthemGame review embargo will drop?
- Before, during or after trial week?
- Will it be reviewed as a finished game with a critical path,
- or just a review in progress GAAS?
I think we can recall that trial week did not treat Mass Effect Andromeda kindly, will this time be different?
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Post by lennybusker on Feb 9, 2019 22:15:57 GMT
One thing I would love to see is BioWare's "internal mock review" scores, assuming they do that process for Anthem. They were quite public about the fact that they expected mid 80s for Andromeda, and well... lol.
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Post by bshep on Feb 9, 2019 23:36:21 GMT
One thing I would love to see is BioWare's "internal mock review" scores, assuming they do that process for Anthem. They were quite public about the fact that they expected mid 80s for Andromeda, and well... lol. Had the game released at version 1.04 or 1.05(don't remember wich) perhaps that score could have been achieved.
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Post by sil on Feb 10, 2019 0:48:54 GMT
One thing I would love to see is BioWare's "internal mock review" scores, assuming they do that process for Anthem. They were quite public about the fact that they expected mid 80s for Andromeda, and well... lol. Had the game released at version 1.04 or 1.05(don't remember wich) perhaps that score could have been achieved. I imagine 1.10 it would've got that. Maybe low 80's, but it would've been better received by all. Goes to show that a little longer in the oven can work.
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Post by clips7 on Feb 10, 2019 3:14:31 GMT
One thing I would love to see is BioWare's "internal mock review" scores, assuming they do that process for Anthem. They were quite public about the fact that they expected mid 80s for Andromeda, and well... lol. Andromeda...why do i feel RAGE everytime i hear that game? the mediorce writing, un-interesting characters and a sjw checkoff list?...that game was a steaming pile of..... media1.giphy.com/media/an9qRijFlThiE/giphy.gifahhh you know what? i will keep that to myself.... .....Anthem will probably fare well against it's competitors (Warframe/ Destiny)......it has potential for what it has and what they want to produce for it in the future....i think as a looter shooter, it will have solid scores/reviews....
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Post by saandrig on Feb 10, 2019 10:08:26 GMT
Had the game released at version 1.04 or 1.05(don't remember wich) perhaps that score could have been achieved. I imagine 1.10 it would've got that. Maybe low 80's, but it would've been better received by all. Goes to show that a little longer in the oven can work. 1.10 could have gotten closer to 80, but that patch introduced some annoying bugs that are still not fixed and probably never will - the highlighted enemies that stay highlighted after death is pretty annoying for anyone going the Infiltrator route. If the game had the "Iron man" mod by default though...80+ for sure
They are not saying it, but I am pretty sure they were hoping for 90+ before the Demo or at least in the couple of months before the Demo. Now maybe they will be happy with anything above 80. However it is supposed to be a growing game, so maybe they should focus improving that score in the future.
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Post by helios969 on Feb 10, 2019 10:45:29 GMT
It sure would be helpful if there were concrete guidelines to rating a VG (or anything for that matter). All I know there's a big disconnect when I can have a reviewer tell me FO4 is a 9/10 (a game I managed to squeeze 20 hours out of before getting bored to death) and then trashes MEA with a 6/10. I guess it's all just subjectivity because I'll take a "bad" Bioware game to the best Bethesda has ever managed. Nowadays there's too much agenda and ax-grinding so I just try to remain objective and learn about the game and see if it ticks boxes of what I'm looking for in a game. Probably all any of us can do.
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Post by SofaJockey on Feb 10, 2019 12:03:11 GMT
I'm still salty about Gamespot's 6/10 for MEA when they gave 'No Man's Sky (original)' a 7/10.
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Post by Kenny Bania on Feb 10, 2019 12:28:42 GMT
It sure would be helpful if there were concrete guidelines to rating a VG (or anything for that matter). All I know there's a big disconnect when I can have a reviewer tell me FO4 is a 9/10 (a game I managed to squeeze 20 hours out of before getting bored to death) and then trashes MEA with a 6/10. I guess it's all just subjectivity because I'll take a "bad" Bioware game to the best Bethesda has ever managed. Nowadays there's too much agenda and ax-grinding so I just try to remain objective and learn about the game and see if it ticks boxes of what I'm looking for in a game. Probably all any of us can do. Maybe the disconnect lies with you? Ever considered that?
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Post by helios969 on Feb 10, 2019 12:30:53 GMT
Maybe the disconnect lies with you? Ever considered that? Sure, why not. Then again it might be you.
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Post by Kenny Bania on Feb 10, 2019 13:18:01 GMT
Maybe the disconnect lies with you? Ever considered that? Sure, why not. Then again it might be you. Yeah... I'm not the one making assertions.
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Post by linksocarina on Feb 10, 2019 13:37:45 GMT
I'm still salty about Gamespot's 6/10 for MEA when they gave 'No Man's Sky (original)' a 7/10. To be fair no mans sky was a better game in some respects on a technical level. Though honestly a 7.5/7 score for Andromeda is about right. Based on my exposure to Anthem this is a step up on all levels from Andromeda.
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Post by river82 on Feb 10, 2019 13:41:34 GMT
I'm still salty about Gamespot's 6/10 for MEA when they gave 'No Man's Sky (original)' a 7/10. I'm still salty 1up gave the Neverwinter Nights 2 review to a person who didn't like isometric games, and so he scored it a 5 (later edited and revised to a 6 after the shitstorm) ... while complaining about isometric games.
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Post by linksocarina on Feb 10, 2019 13:43:17 GMT
It sure would be helpful if there were concrete guidelines to rating a VG (or anything for that matter). All I know there's a big disconnect when I can have a reviewer tell me FO4 is a 9/10 (a game I managed to squeeze 20 hours out of before getting bored to death) and then trashes MEA with a 6/10. I guess it's all just subjectivity because I'll take a "bad" Bioware game to the best Bethesda has ever managed. Nowadays there's too much agenda and ax-grinding so I just try to remain objective and learn about the game and see if it ticks boxes of what I'm looking for in a game. Probably all any of us can do. Some sites do that sure, but not all games are created equal in those guidelines. I can say from personal experience that fallout 4 gets a higher grade because it has a stronger tie to mechanics, game lore, and fun factor, coupled with new mechanics such as base building, to really set it apart. Where it fumbles for some is being a real fallout game thats not van buren. But a weak fallout game is still a good overall game package. You don't always base it on what came before as being the major influencer of your decision, you base it on all aspects to judge it, and while its ultimately subjective it's where we get higher grades from.
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