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Post by fylimar on Apr 1, 2019 17:41:49 GMT
My OOC behavior has usally to do with the companions too. I like to recruit everyone at least once, so my paranoid Dalish elf lets the elven assassin, who just wanted to kill her live, my super correct Cousland has no problem taking the alcoholic dwarf with her, despit him being basically a mess and a security risk and my really nice and empathic castless dwarf has no problems taking the cruel witch with her, who wants to sell elves into slavery and is generally just mean. Nowadays, I still have to bend the characters to let Zevran live, because I can't play DAO without Zevran, but I have sent away Morrigan and Oghren more often than not (or completely ignored them for the whole playthrough). And I once played a Hawke that hates bloodmagic, who tried to be nice to Merrill. As a player I find, that Merrill is a very difficult character and I can't get her to like me or really hate me, she normally stays in the grey area. I tried to befrtiend her once with that bloodmagic hating character, helped her with her quest and said nice things ... still didn't work out, Merrill and I, we just don't fit, but it was compeletly out of character for that Hawke, she normally would have killed Merrill for being a bloodmage, especially after Quentin, or at least have her handed over to the Circle.
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Post by Zemgus on Apr 1, 2019 18:18:19 GMT
Perhaps by creating a worldstate where the Inquisitor is an elven mage - basically the two worst things my Hawke can imagine. Doesn't really make sense for him to show up to help them... since he and Varric weren't even friends. He would side with the Chantry and refuse to have anything to do with the "heretic" Inquisition, and the phrase "Corypheus is my responsibility" is also totally ooc... for every Hawke. Another big one that perhaps better fits the OP's question would be Surana and the dark ritual. He's my canon character and the first one I played the game with. In that first playthrough I did the Dark Ritual with Morrigan. Now it's a canon choice for me, but honestly Surana would never do it - he's a blood mage and is neutral evil - but bringing some kind of old god demon spawn in to this world is where he draws the line. He spared Loghain just so he can throw him at the Archdemon - so no ritual needed. But I still make him do it just because I want Kieran to be in my Canon Worldstate... Okay the last one is the worst. In Inquisition I sometimes pick certain dialogue options just to get approval from companions 'cause I don't want to miss any content. You have to have enough approval to get everyone's companion quests and all the conversations, etc. That honestly sucks. I wish they'll bring back the good old friendship/rivalry system for DA4. You shouldn't be punished with getting less content just because your character doesn't want to kiss everyone's ass. not sure I understand your second point correctly but...
if a Warden sleeps with Morrigan at least once, she's always pregnant regardless of ritual or not, so Kieran would still be part of the world state, he just wouldn't have the OG soul (sacrificing Loghain or Alistair would still be a given in that case) unless of course you want Kieran to have the OG soul...in that case disregard my comment Good point. I actually forgot about that. Hmm. Might have to replay DAO with that character now and make some changes to the canon worldstate. Again.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Apr 1, 2019 18:42:38 GMT
Good point. I actually forgot about that. Hmm. Might have to replay DAO with that character now and make some changes to the canon worldstate. Again. *pats back* don't feel bad, I keep going back and forth between characters all the time
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Post by Sokemis on Apr 1, 2019 22:42:00 GMT
My OOC behavior has usally to do with the companions too. I like to recruit everyone at least once, so my paranoid Dalish elf lets the elven assassin, who just wanted to kill her live, my super correct Cousland has no problem taking the alcoholic dwarf with her, despit him being basically a mess and a security risk and my really nice and empathic castless dwarf has no problems taking the cruel witch with her, who wants to sell elves into slavery and is generally just mean. Nowadays, I still have to bend the characters to let Zevran live, because I can't play DAO without Zevran, but I have sent away Morrigan and Oghren more often than not (or completely ignored them for the whole playthrough). And I once played a Hawke that hates bloodmagic, who tried to be nice to Merrill. As a player I find, that Merrill is a very difficult character and I can't get her to like me or really hate me, she normally stays in the grey area. I tried to befrtiend her once with that bloodmagic hating character, helped her with her quest and said nice things ... still didn't work out, Merrill and I, we just don't fit, but it was compeletly out of character for that Hawke, she normally would have killed Merrill for being a bloodmage, especially after Quentin, or at least have her handed over to the Circle. That's one nice thing about my head canon dual-warden-verse - those that my main warden may have not wanted to recruit, the co-warden would have, and vice versa. But yeah, I've been guilty enough times telling my PC "I don't care if you don't like or trust them, I do and they're joining." (especially in regards to Zevran). I used to recruit Justice to "complete the set", but have started to not do so, especially since I just leave him at the Keep anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 13:41:45 GMT
I used to recruit Justice to "complete the set", but have started to not do so, especially since I just leave him at the Keep anyway. By the way, since the option exists to not recruit Justice or to hand over Anders to the Templars. How does Anders get all glow in the dark if you get rid of either of them because then they don't meet at least through the Warden? Are there any DA2 dialogues with an explanation?
I always recruit everyone and their dog and never boot anyone, so, I have no idea.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 13:48:04 GMT
s a player I find, that Merrill is a very difficult character and I can't get her to like me or really hate me I've never been able to befriend her purely because I only once allowed her to keep her artifact and that was during the play when I had aggressive Hawke who dragged everyone into circle so she was in rival zone anyway. I just find everything she does pigheaded and can't bring myself to go on agreeing with her. One game I made an effort with diplomatic Hawke to be nice to her because Hawke was nice to everyone, and the progress bar moved rather far into friend zone without locking but when Hawke refused to give her the fragment she gave him -75 hate in one go and said something like you only pretended to be my friend and you don't give a furk.
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Post by Sokemis on Apr 6, 2019 14:53:36 GMT
By the way, since the option exists to not recruit Justice or to hand over Anders to the Templars. How does Anders get all glow in the dark if you get rid of either of them because then they don't meet at least through the Warden? Are there any DA2 dialogues with an explanation? I know one of the banters between Anders and Isabela addresses one of the epilogue slides about Anders leaving on a pirate ship - as a rumor that Anders tried to plant about where he went after leaving Amaranthine. As far as how Anders/Justice are in DA2 if you never recruited either of them - I don't know for sure if anything is said in-game, since I've never not recruited Anders in Awakening, and haven't gotten around to importing a Justice-less save into DA2. But Anders would have had to have escaped the Templars again (which okay, I can see that happening), somehow gotten recruited into the Wardens away (by who?), met up with and decided to merge with a spirit he never met, and still made it to Kirkwall on time. Honestly, I try not to think about it too much, just end up with a headache. The timeline is tight/fuzzy enough when everything does go according to the prescribed plan and you consider the epilogues from Origin and Awakening as pure rumor (which I think even the developers have said they are at this point).
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Post by fylimar on Apr 6, 2019 14:56:15 GMT
s a player I find, that Merrill is a very difficult character and I can't get her to like me or really hate me I've never been able to befriend her purely because I only once allowed her to keep her artifact and that was during the play when I had aggressive Hawke who dragged everyone into circle so she was in rival zone anyway. I just find everything she does pigheaded and can't bring myself to go on agreeing with her. One game I made an effort with diplomatic Hawke to be nice to her because Hawke was nice to everyone, and the progress bar moved rather far into friend zone without locking but when Hawke refused to give her the fragment she gave him -75 hate in one go and said something like you only pretended to be my friend and you don't give a furk. Exactly. Pigheaded is a good way to describe Merrill. She is so stubborn and close minded, it is hard to get through to her
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Post by opuspace on Apr 6, 2019 19:31:05 GMT
Romances are usually the times when I can't headcanon a lot for each character's personality acting out of sorts with a LI. A professional, respectful Inquisitor is a little jarring if she's acting entitled and pushy around Blackwall and a power hungry Inquisitor simply would not react so coyly around Cullen. There are moments where it doesn't clash, but sometimes I have to really blank out just to explore a romance option. Still, dragon age has had a far more satisfying variety of reactions compared to the creepy attitude Femshep could take on with her options.
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Post by Iddy on Apr 9, 2019 12:14:32 GMT
Romances are usually the times when I can't headcanon a lot for each character's personality acting out of sorts with a LI. A professional, respectful Inquisitor is a little jarring if she's acting entitled and pushy around Blackwall and a power hungry Inquisitor simply would not react so coyly around Cullen. There are moments where it doesn't clash, but sometimes I have to really blank out just to explore a romance option. Still, dragon age has had a far more satisfying variety of reactions compared to the creepy attitude Femshep could take on with her options. Like what?
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Post by Liadan on Apr 9, 2019 15:05:38 GMT
Apart from recruiting and befriending every companion, even if that does`t make sense for the character i`m playing, my most OOC moment has to do with the Slim Couldry quests. Most of my characters, especially my canon Cousland, would never agree to participate in a crime wave and would never become the Dark Wolf, but the quests are there and i always have to play all the available content even if i had played it dozens of times before i`m a completionist by heart .
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Apr 9, 2019 17:04:40 GMT
Apart from recruiting and befriending every companion, even if that does`t make sense for the character i`m playing, my most OOC moment has to do with the Slim Couldry quests. Most of my characters, especially my canon Cousland, would never agree to participate in a crime wave and would never become the Dark Wolf, but the quests are there and i always have to play all the available content even if i had played it dozens of times before i`m a completionist by heart . on the other hand, my Cousland does complete the crime wave quests
everything to undermine Howe and Loghain *cue evil laugh*
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Post by mousestalker on Apr 9, 2019 18:13:36 GMT
OOC, almost never. OCD, always.
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Post by opuspace on Apr 10, 2019 14:48:16 GMT
Romances are usually the times when I can't headcanon a lot for each character's personality acting out of sorts with a LI. A professional, respectful Inquisitor is a little jarring if she's acting entitled and pushy around Blackwall and a power hungry Inquisitor simply would not react so coyly around Cullen. There are moments where it doesn't clash, but sometimes I have to really blank out just to explore a romance option. Still, dragon age has had a far more satisfying variety of reactions compared to the creepy attitude Femshep could take on with her options. Like what? Greeting Jacob when trying to get to know him first, pursuing Vega as a romance *shudder*, propositioning Garrus as though it's a cheap lay and not because there's serious feelings, those moments where I don't get the sense a no nonsense type of personality would treat the situation so cavalierly. Thane's and Kaidan's are better for that, but on the other hand, they don't fit for a cocky, smartass Shepard. Maybe that's the point. But I like romances that fit a wider variety of personalities like Iron Bull's does.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 2:43:21 GMT
I always kill Vaughan Kendalls in Origins, even if I'm playing a human noble who has every reason to want him alive for Landsmeet votes. Rapist racist fucker is a waste of air. Keep killing him. I once let him go. He turns coat on you right in the middle of the vote. Says something along the road that he's been forced to vote Warden.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Apr 12, 2019 8:50:23 GMT
I always kill Vaughan Kendalls in Origins, even if I'm playing a human noble who has every reason to want him alive for Landsmeet votes. Rapist racist fucker is a waste of air. Keep killing him. I once let him go. He turns coat on you right in the middle of the vote. Says something along the road that he's been forced to vote Warden. *makes a note* good to know
I was thinking of letting him go in my canon world state...but I think along with all of the other quests I aim to do that gain me votes, I doubt I'll be needing him (well technically I never do, since most of my Wardens are manipulative enough to make Anora side with them even if they later plan of disposing her)
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Post by boxofscreaming on Apr 12, 2019 19:42:12 GMT
I made my dwarf commoner delay agreeing to support Bhelen so I could go and talk to Harrowmont. In character though, he'd have just agreed to whatever Rica said immediately.
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Post by vertigomez on May 11, 2019 23:46:59 GMT
I always find some justification for recruiting all possible companions (mutually exclusive ones aside). Even ones I don't care for, or I think my character wouldn't care for. Opens up some interesting roleplay opportunities. I also always find a reason to do certain things: put Bhelen on the throne, make sure Morrigan has Kieran, spare the Chargers, etc. There are a few things that are constant in my world states no matter what. Apart from recruiting and befriending every companion, even if that does`t make sense for the character i`m playing, my most OOC moment has to do with the Slim Couldry quests. Most of my characters, especially my canon Cousland, would never agree to participate in a crime wave and would never become the Dark Wolf, but the quests are there and i always have to play all the available content even if i had played it dozens of times before i`m a completionist by heart . I just pretend that Leliana and Zevran get up to these Crime Wave shenanigans if my Warden's not the type. S/he sets them loose on Denerim for the lulz.
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Post by michaeln7 on May 12, 2019 14:58:48 GMT
OOC, almost never. OCD, always. This elfroot won't harvest itself!
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Post by Ieldra on May 14, 2019 10:16:01 GMT
OOC, almost never. OCD, always. I know the feeling, but one leads to the other now and then, does it not? I always do all quests. If I can resolve a quest in an IC way then I do it. However, if not, I usually, with extremely rare exceptions, don't forego the quest but resolve it in any manner available. Also, sometimes my characters wouldn't talk in-depth to some companion but rather ignore them, but I still do because I want to get their quest.
In any case, OOC behaviour tends to be almost nonexistent for any other reasons but completionist concerns, because I don't give my characters fixed belief systems, so it's usually not unthinkable to make them go against some principle, because they tend to follow it but aren't set to follow it unconditionally.
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Post by Ieldra on May 14, 2019 11:15:55 GMT
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Post by Catilina on May 14, 2019 11:45:46 GMT
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Post by Sokemis on May 19, 2019 23:08:02 GMT
It's probably been mentioned, but something that came to mind during my current playthrough: thievery. There's some people that even my "take anything that's not nailed down" Brosca wouldn't steal from, let alone my lawful good Cousland. But to get coin/item/experience you need to unlock and steal all the things. I just have to selectively pretend that some of the thievery never happened. Tabris may have gleefully pick-pocketed anyone that called her knife-ear, but I refuse to believe she actually did still everything from the starving refugees...
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Post by wispfox on Jun 30, 2019 15:14:20 GMT
That scene with Leliana when she is deciding what to do with the spy. The natural reaction for my Inquisitors, but particularly my Dalish Inquisitors, is not to interfere, simply watch how she does things. The reason for this is simple; I am not yet her boss and have only just been recruited myself so it is not my place to tell her how to do her job. As a Dalish it was my task to observe how humans do things, so that is exactly what I am going to do. Also in this particular instance I couldn't actually think of a good reason why I would want to spare the life of a traitor I had never even met. However, I subsequently discovered that by not actively telling her to spare his life, I am blocking off any possibility of stopping her being a ruthless killer, which if I want her to be Divine is, for me, something of a problem. First game I opted for Cassandra precisely because I couldn't stomach the idea of a blood-thirsty Leliana on the Sunburst Throne. When my Warden who was romancing her specifically asked me to help her find her true self again I was truly upset because I had no possibility of doing so having failed at that early hurdle. So thereafter, in order to keep my options open, I always stepped in to stop her killing the traitor, even though it went against what my character would normally do. Personally I think the only choice at that stage which should tie you into the ruthless Leliana should be the one where you actively encourage her to kill him. The other two options should have left you still with the possibility of softening her depending on what you did at other stages in the game. Yes, this bothered me so much! I mean - my quizzie is too new to tell you what to do, and yet it results in ruthless Leliana? I opted for Cass for this precise reasons.
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Post by House Targaryen on Jun 30, 2019 15:42:14 GMT
I always kill Vaughan Kendalls in Origins, even if I'm playing a human noble who has every reason to want him alive for Landsmeet votes. Rapist racist fucker is a waste of air. Keep killing him. I once let him go. He turns coat on you right in the middle of the vote. Says something along the road that he's been forced to vote Warden. He and his family are good for taking dirt naps. Even the few times I played as a human noble, that POS had to die, he's a disgrace to humans. And you know he's going down when I play as an elf.
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