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Post by pessimistpanda on Feb 17, 2019 2:30:50 GMT
To me it feels like a missed opportunity to make a whole other game waffling over the veil again. I don't want Solas as the main antagonist, so of course I don't want a returning PC.
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 17, 2019 9:34:48 GMT
As far as the hero needing a personal connection to the main antagonist, I would argue that's become a cliche all it's own. As if the protagonist, through their own ordeals, could never develop any understanding or even empathy for a foe they've never met. Luke wanted to save Vader because of Daddy Issues, but how much more heroic could it have been if it was stranger who genuinely believed in redemption for all? For Star Wars it wouldn't have worked to have some random stranger who believed in redemption for all instead of Luke. Vader would not have stepped in to save that person. Both these are valid points and you also have to remember that whilst Luke was off trying to redeem his father, the rest of the team were hard at work actually trying to defeat the empire. Whilst Luke's actions resulted in redemption for Vader and the death of the emperor, that wouldn't necessarily have resulted in overall victory if the Death Star Mark 2 hadn't been destroyed as well. This is where I had issue with the options offered concerning Solas in Trespasser. Whether I feel he is capable of redemption or not, the focus should be on stopping him from going through with his plan. The desire to save him is only really relevant in what happens to him once we have done so. After all, if an Inquisitor on good terms with him wasn't able to convince him not to go through with it, why would anyone else be successful further down the line with whom he had no connection at all? Saving the world surely takes precedence over the fate of Solas no matter what an individual may believe about redemption? In some ways it would be better to have someone totally new to undertake the task simply because they won't be swayed by their emotions towards him personally when deciding on the best path. However, referring back to the Star Wars example, you can see how a dual protagonist could work with the plot. The new, main PC is the one tasked with saving the world, whilst the old, minor PC is focussed on saving Solas or killing him if that was their preferred option.
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Post by Fredward on Feb 18, 2019 5:39:39 GMT
Thinking about it there's a chance the tDWR is going to echo DAI in themes and broad 'framework' (ie content that serves as nests for smaller content: - foreground is a war between intractable ideological foes - this great threat is used as a distraction by an ancient foe to forward their own plans - this ancient foe is a magical holdover from the before times - in terms of motivation (superficially): they both belief things were better the way they used to be, are supremacists, terribly smrat/competent and egotistical - the war going on in the foreground is revealed to be a dangerous distraction, possibly requiring player intervention to resolve quickly. With DAI this was made clear when Cory stepped directly and immediately onto the board, with Solas I still think we might face a unifying threat before he reveals himself and only for him to subvert the victory over that unifying threat into his ultimate plan (I think the remaining seals still need to be broken which I think might mean we might [maybe] need to kill a double Blight intentionally started by Solas BUT he needs them dead and his enemies depleted so he wants us to kill them but struggle) So yeah. I want the qunari vs Tevinter to be a bigger war than mage v templar, facing an ideological opponent, someone who is a threat to your way of life rather than just your plain old life, is more interesting. I don't think it's a big assumption to think the old gods are core to the Blight and the Blight is what Solas is trying to address in a final kind of way, not after the latest mural, but it is a big assumption to think the way he'll get rid of them is to initiate a double Blight even if I happen to think that'll result in the most delicious drama. He might deal with them another way. Then there'll be space for the q v t war. An argument against it being a core issue is that (comic spoilers) it's already started off screen, and not just light flirting but the fall of Ventus. The issue was introduced and resolved in one comic, compare that with the overall plot about this mysterious red lyrium thing they're searching for (coughidolcough) and it seems like relative backdrop.
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