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Post by maximusarael020 on Feb 13, 2019 5:55:36 GMT
Would you give an interest free loan to any company on the promise they'll deliver something of equal value at some future date, when you know up front that there is a risk that what they deliver might not be of equal value? That would be kind of dumb, from a financial point of view, right? You're talking about tax returns, aren't you.
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Post by correctamundo on Feb 13, 2019 6:42:28 GMT
Would you give an interest free loan to any company on the promise they'll deliver something of equal value at some future date, when you know up front that there is a risk that what they deliver might not be of equal value? That would be kind of dumb, from a financial point of view, right? You're talking about tax returns, aren't you. What is interest anyway? Thing of the past?
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Post by helios969 on Feb 13, 2019 9:49:50 GMT
I'm in the don't preorder camp unless you feel comfortable with what you'll be getting. Know the things you like, assess what the game has to offer, and pull the trigger if enough of those things line up. If you're uncertain whether it offers the right amount of fun factor then you're better off waiting...or passing altogether if you're already convinced you'll hate it. This isn't rocket science.
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Post by evilfluffmonster on Feb 13, 2019 10:23:09 GMT
Nobody should ever pre-order really from an ethical stand point..
I make an exception with Bioware games typically, because until Andromeda, they had earned enough trust in the quality of their games.
Plus, you can theoretically pre-order for the bonuses, then return said item or cancel your pre-order after you get your codes - many people used to do this for games with multiple exclusive pre-order bonuses. This way you could even hold off for the game to be discounted in price while still getting some of the content bonuses.
I just pre-ordered the LOD edition digitally as it makes less noise than a disc, I can game-share it with a friend, and "Screw it, Bioware take my money!"
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Post by Thrombin on Feb 13, 2019 11:20:36 GMT
I’m a bit of a completist. If I get a game I want to experience everything possible you can experience and that includes pre-order bonus stuff. If it turns out I don’t like the game after I buy it then, so be it, but if I didn’t pre-order and I did like it then I lose out and I hate losing out!
In any case, I’ve never bought a Bioware game I didn’t like and, while Anthem is a little more mp-focused than I usually go for, I’ve enjoyed the two demos so far so I’m pretty sure I’m going to get a lot of use out of it even if it doesn’t hold my interest forever.
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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 13, 2019 11:34:14 GMT
I don't see the point preordering a game that comes out next week and is distributed digitally.
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Post by Shinobu on Feb 13, 2019 12:59:47 GMT
I pre-ordered the Ultimate Super Deluxe: Judgement Day Edition. Hope I got everything. Good on ya, I hope you enjoy it. Let us plebes know how it is.
I'm not preordering, but I'll likely buy day 1 or close to.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Feb 13, 2019 15:54:33 GMT
Pre-ordering has become pointless outside of finding out who blindly buys things👍
Those fancy bonuses? You can get them even after launch lol! Such a bonus 🙄
If this were early 2000s then it'd be different but the industry hasn't been that competent to justify it today.
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Post by NotN7 on Feb 13, 2019 15:55:54 GMT
I pre-ordered and to be honest I will continue to do so if the games are what I want to play, I'm one of those people that prefer to play day one rather than sit around waiting for it to go on sale, to me pre-ordering is no different than the people that drive around town wasting gas just to save 3 cents a gallon.
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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 13, 2019 15:59:38 GMT
I pre-ordered and to be honest I will continue to do so if the games are what I want to play, I'm one of those people that prefer to play day one rather than sit around waiting for it to go on sale, to me pre-ordering is no different than the people that drive around town wasting gas just to save 3 cents a gallon. I can play Day 1 just as well without preordering. Is called "pre-loading".
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Post by NotN7 on Feb 13, 2019 16:07:54 GMT
I pre-ordered and to be honest I will continue to do so if the games are what I want to play, I'm one of those people that prefer to play day one rather than sit around waiting for it to go on sale, to me pre-ordering is no different than the people that drive around town wasting gas just to save 3 cents a gallon. I can play Day 1 just as well without preordering. Is called "pre-loading". Hehe that is true I just like the connivance of pre-ordering
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Post by Thrombin on Feb 13, 2019 17:22:48 GMT
Pre-ordering has become pointless outside of finding out who blindly buys things👍 Those fancy bonuses? You can get them even after launch lol! Such a bonus 🙄
If this were early 2000s then it'd be different but the industry hasn't been that competent to justify it today.
Well, for one thing, you missed out on the VIP demo without the pre-order and you don't get the Founder's Banner and never will
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Feb 13, 2019 18:20:19 GMT
Would you give an interest free loan to any company on the promise they'll deliver something of equal value at some future date, when you know up front that there is a risk that what they deliver might not be of equal value? That would be kind of dumb, from a financial point of view, right? That's why I don't pre-order. The incentive they offer to pre-order would have to be worth much more than the time value of the money they're asking for, to compensate for the risk. Alternatively, a rock solid guarantee of a full refund for the life of the product would be acceptable. I like the sentiment, but the time value of preorder downpayments is negligible even in aggregate. True, but it should go without saying that the value of the money itself is important also. I have other things I want to spend $60-80 on.
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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 13, 2019 19:47:28 GMT
I like the sentiment, but the time value of preorder downpayments is negligible even in aggregate. True, but it should go without saying that the value of the money itself is important also. I have other things I want to spend $60-80 on. Exactly. If you act like a cheap street hooker and throw away your money for free, then expect to be treated like the cheap sucker you are by bigco. THEY value cash highly, so make them pay for it.
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Post by monkeylungs on Feb 14, 2019 5:42:41 GMT
I made the mistake of pre-ordering based on blind faith in Bioware. Don't make that mistake. Don't pre-order.
Also never pre-order from Playstation Store North America. They will NOT allow you cancel a pre-order. I have tried 5 times so far to no avail and I have an incredibly decadent Playstation library.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Feb 14, 2019 6:13:32 GMT
I made the mistake of pre-ordering based on blind faith in Bioware. Don't make that mistake. Don't pre-order. Also never pre-order from Playstation Store North America. They will NOT allow you cancel a pre-order. I have tried 5 times so far to no avail and I have an incredibly decadent Playstation library. That is absolutely so bizarre and unconscionable to me. How can they not let you cancel a pre-order?! That is absolutely ridiculous. I would hope Microsoft has better customer service than that. I hope maybe you can find some enjoyment in it, since I guess you are stuck with it.
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Post by 10k on Feb 14, 2019 6:29:14 GMT
Only reason I see for pre-ordering is for versions of the game that are limited in supply. There is no reason to pre-order the standard version of the game or a deluxe edition. Because all you get are a few ingame skins.
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Post by Camel on Feb 14, 2019 7:33:39 GMT
No, you shouldn't. Wait until discounts and patches to clean up so much mess.
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Post by SofaJockey on Feb 14, 2019 9:12:14 GMT
I pre-ordered in June (on Xbox). I could have canceled any time.
I was charged yesterday - I could probably cancel even now if I went through support.
I've played 40 hours already, I have no regrets.
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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 14, 2019 11:52:52 GMT
I made the mistake of pre-ordering based on blind faith in Bioware. Don't make that mistake. Don't pre-order. Also never pre-order from Playstation Store North America. They will NOT allow you cancel a pre-order. I have tried 5 times so far to no avail and I have an incredibly decadent Playstation library. What has become of BSN when users can't cancel their preorders anymore.
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Post by saandrig on Feb 14, 2019 12:53:41 GMT
I made the mistake of pre-ordering based on blind faith in Bioware. Don't make that mistake. Don't pre-order. Also never pre-order from Playstation Store North America. They will NOT allow you cancel a pre-order. I have tried 5 times so far to no avail and I have an incredibly decadent Playstation library. What has become of BSN when users can't cancel their preorders anymore.
"Our next step in the VG industry includes placing a preorder even if you just accidentally type in Google anything that vaguely can be connected to the game. Then based on that preorder we will place preorders for all games that can possibly be of interest to you. Then we will start an investigation why do you have so much time to play so many video games instead of being a productive member of society. And since you can't possibly pay all your preorders (no canceling, but you can try - look for the procedure in "How to cancel, guide in futility", volumes 1 through 54, leatherbacks. We just added them to another preorder just for you) we will declare your bankruptcy, liquidate all your assets and place you on (in)voluntary community service until you clear your debts and we finish our previous investigation, declare you mentally unstable and place you under psychiatric care." - Best wishes from the Ministry of Plenty and a "Hi" from the Ministry of Truth.
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Post by mmoblitz on Feb 14, 2019 13:37:58 GMT
I don't pre-order any game regardless of who the publisher or dev is. "It's just good business"
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Post by monkeylungs on Feb 14, 2019 15:59:33 GMT
I made the mistake of pre-ordering based on blind faith in Bioware. Don't make that mistake. Don't pre-order. Also never pre-order from Playstation Store North America. They will NOT allow you cancel a pre-order. I have tried 5 times so far to no avail and I have an incredibly decadent Playstation library. That is absolutely so bizarre and unconscionable to me. How can they not let you cancel a pre-order?! That is absolutely ridiculous. I would hope Microsoft has better customer service than that. I hope maybe you can find some enjoyment in it, since I guess you are stuck with it. Microsoft DOES indeed have better customer service.
I hope I can find some enjoyment too. If they can fix up the performance I should be alright.
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Post by monkeylungs on Feb 14, 2019 16:01:18 GMT
I made the mistake of pre-ordering based on blind faith in Bioware. Don't make that mistake. Don't pre-order. Also never pre-order from Playstation Store North America. They will NOT allow you cancel a pre-order. I have tried 5 times so far to no avail and I have an incredibly decadent Playstation library. What has become of BSN when users can't cancel their preorders anymore.
BSN needs more clout with Sony corporate USA ...
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