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Post by OdanUrr on Feb 22, 2019 2:04:09 GMT
This makes one wonder if Anthem will become Bioware's Dead Space 3. Well, in a sense, one could argue Andromeda was BioWare's DS3, but I'm guessing you're referring to the other sense.
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Post by lennybusker on Feb 22, 2019 2:09:19 GMT
Bringing up Yongyea is funny because he was legitimately hopeful for Anthem, and even during the disastrous open beta period he was holding the game in high regard. It surprised the shit out of me how positive he was on the game once he was actually playing it. He has given Anthem an absolutely fair shake thus far.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 2:12:02 GMT
Bringing up Yongyea is funny because he was legitimately hopeful for Anthem, and even during the disastrous open beta period he was holding the game in high regard. It surprised the shit out of me how positive he was on the game once he was actually playing it. He has given Anthem an absolutely fair shake thus far. yes, he even defended it at first
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Post by Doc on Feb 22, 2019 2:13:10 GMT
The game reminds me a lot of Colonial Marines in that the "gameplay" footage and features advertised over the past six years aren't what was delivered. And bugs. I thought the Metacritic scores would be lower.
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Post by spacev3gan on Feb 22, 2019 2:13:52 GMT
Considering he was critical of some parts of the game hence “despite the issues” I wonder what makes guys like Yongyea then? No idea. Not my business. Does Yong Yea profit from Anthem's failure? If he does, good for him. It is seems like he will get that. Arekkz on the other hand profits from Anthem's success. The way he devoted his channel and his time to promote Anthem would make me feel sorry for him if he did that for free. Oh, does he criticize some parts of Anthem on his video? Of course he does. He has his viewers, they have questions, they know stuff, they see proper reviews of the game. Now that the game is out, he cannot put Anthem in the best light and get away with it. Good for him he will be moving to Division 2 next anyway, alongside other shills like KackisHD. These guys who use their channel to promote, advertise and hype up games are salespersons making their living. I am not saying that profession is wrong per se, I am just saying that their opinion on what they are selling is not in the best interest of who is buying.
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Post by Hier0phant on Feb 22, 2019 2:17:37 GMT
This makes one wonder if Anthem will become Bioware's Dead Space 3. Well, in a sense, one could argue Andromeda was BioWare's DS3, but I'm guessing you're referring to the other sense. Yeah. The kicker here is that thanks to DS3 not meeting EA's expectations the franchise ended on a cliffhanger whereas the Dragon Age franchise could potentially suffer the same fate, and that will sting worse than Visceral's closure.
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Post by shinobiwan on Feb 22, 2019 2:20:25 GMT
YongYea is a hate monger, so that doesn't really help you. And calling a guy a shill who, in the title of his video acknowledges problems, talks about said problems more than the things he enjoys, is nothing short of hilarious. Because apparently the only way you aren't a "shill" is by calling a game irredemable trash with no hope of ever being good. The weight of the reviews are in, and he's an outlier who accepted benefits from the company that made the game he's reviewing. Call it what you will.
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Post by smilesja on Feb 22, 2019 2:20:30 GMT
Considering he was critical of some parts of the game hence “despite the issues” I wonder what makes guys like Yongyea then? No idea. Not my business. Does Yong Yea profit from Anthem's failure? If he does, good for him. It is seems like he will get that. Arekkz on the other hand profits from Anthem's success. The way he devoted his channel and his time to promote Anthem would make me feel sorry for him if he did that for free. Oh, does he criticize some parts of Anthem on his video? Of course he does. He has his viewers, they have questions, they know stuff, they see proper reviews of the game. Now that the game is out, he cannot put Anthem in the best light and get away with it. Good for him he will be moving to Division 2 next anyway, alongside other shills like KackisHD. These guys who use their channel to promote, advertise and hype up games are salespersons making their living. I am not saying that profession is wrong per se, I am just saying that their opinion on what they are selling is not in the best interest of who is buying. And that makes it a well rounded review. If you talk about the games strengths and weaknesses while trying to be unbiased, I see no reason to call him a shill.
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Post by shinobiwan on Feb 22, 2019 2:21:09 GMT
Bringing up Yongyea is funny because he was legitimately hopeful for Anthem, and even during the disastrous open beta period he was holding the game in high regard. It surprised the shit out of me how positive he was on the game once he was actually playing it. He has given Anthem an absolutely fair shake thus far. I stopped giving him clicks years ago - that's fascinating.
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Post by smilesja on Feb 22, 2019 2:21:27 GMT
And calling a guy a shill who, in the title of his video acknowledges problems, talks about said problems more than the things he enjoys, is nothing short of hilarious. Because apparently the only way you aren't a "shill" is by calling a game irredemable trash with no hope of ever being good. The weight of the reviews are in, and he's an outlier who accepted benefits from the company that made the game he's reviewing. Call it what you will. Proof of that?
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Post by shinobiwan on Feb 22, 2019 2:22:48 GMT
The weight of the reviews are in, and he's an outlier who accepted benefits from the company that made the game he's reviewing. Call it what you will. Proof of that? It's disclosed in his own videos lol.
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Post by smilesja on Feb 22, 2019 2:22:59 GMT
This makes one wonder if Anthem will become Bioware's Dead Space 3. Depends on the sales.
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Post by spacev3gan on Feb 22, 2019 2:32:33 GMT
And that makes it a well rounded review. If you talk about the games strengths and weaknesses while trying to be unbiased, I see no reason to call him a shill. Anthem is out and it is a disaster. There are weaknesses, and they are many. Because Arekkz acknowlegdes them now, he is not a shill? Give me a break. I am not sure how well you know his channel to call him "unbiased". Watch his older videos of Anthem. Stuff from weeks ago, months ago. The guy pretty much used to work as a youtube propagandist for Anthem/Bioware/EA. Sadly for all of them, Anthem turned out to be below everyone's expectations. People have no choice other than acknowledging that now.
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Post by smilesja on Feb 22, 2019 2:38:37 GMT
And that makes it a well rounded review. If you talk about the games strengths and weaknesses while trying to be unbiased, I see no reason to call him a shill. Anthem is out and it is a disaster. There are weaknesses, and they are many. Because Arekkz acknowlegdes them now, he is not a shill? Give me a break. I am not sure how well you know his channel to call him "unbiased". Watch his older videos of Anthem. Stuff from weeks ago, months ago. The guy pretty much used to work as a youtube propagandist for Anthem/Bioware/EA. Sadly for all of them, Anthem turned out to be below everyone's expectations. People have no choice other than acknowledging that now. Disaster according to who? Reviewers? I didn’t realize a 6-7 average was a disaster. Just because the guy has videos promoting BioWare and their games doesn’t mean they can’t write a review highlighting both their strengths and weaknesses.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 2:40:16 GMT
Anthem is out and it is a disaster. There are weaknesses, and they are many. Because Arekkz acknowlegdes them now, he is not a shill? Give me a break. I am not sure how well you know his channel to call him "unbiased". Watch his older videos of Anthem. Stuff from weeks ago, months ago. The guy pretty much used to work as a youtube propagandist for Anthem/Bioware/EA. Sadly for all of them, Anthem turned out to be below everyone's expectations. People have no choice other than acknowledging that now. Disaster according to who? Reviewers? I didn’t realize a 6-7 average was a disaster. Just because the guy has videos promoting BioWare and their games doesn’t mean they can’t write a review highlighting both their strengths and weaknesses. it is when the metascore is below expectations and you get no bonus....
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Post by lennybusker on Feb 22, 2019 2:51:34 GMT
Anthem is out and it is a disaster. There are weaknesses, and they are many. Because Arekkz acknowlegdes them now, he is not a shill? Give me a break. I am not sure how well you know his channel to call him "unbiased". Watch his older videos of Anthem. Stuff from weeks ago, months ago. The guy pretty much used to work as a youtube propagandist for Anthem/Bioware/EA. Sadly for all of them, Anthem turned out to be below everyone's expectations. People have no choice other than acknowledging that now. Disaster according to who? Reviewers? I didn’t realize a 6-7 average was a disaster. Just because the guy has videos promoting BioWare and their games doesn’t mean they can’t write a review highlighting both their strengths and weaknesses. Dude there are big name outlets giving it a FIVE OUT OF TEN right now. That is a indisputable disaster. If you don't think BW and EA execs are freaking out right now you are...well I won't say delusional because I'm being nice but let's just say dead wrong. The only thing keeping this from being a Fallout 76-level thermonuclear event for BW is that there really aren't PR blunders, it's just shockingly poor game design.
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Post by spacev3gan on Feb 22, 2019 2:59:35 GMT
Disaster according to who? Reviewers? I didn’t realize a 6-7 average was a disaster. Just because the guy has videos promoting BioWare and their games doesn’t mean they can’t write a review highlighting both their strengths and weaknesses. 6-7 for the biggest, most expensive and most advertised game that the biggest gaming publisher is releasing this year? Yep, that is a disaster, buddy. Battlefield V scored significantly better than that and it is deemed as a massive disaster from which EA can barely recover anytime soon. As for Arekkz and his dedicated promotion of Anthem over the last few months, he got benefits from promoting the game. He is not in a position to evaluate the game without a bias. If you believe he is, well, then you simply have different (and lower) standards for reviews.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Feb 22, 2019 3:31:03 GMT
Battlefield V scored significantly better than that and it is deemed as a massive disaster from which EA can barely recover anytime soon. I mean, assuredly they were not exceptionally pleased with Battlefield 5's sales (underperformed by 1 million copies) but where do you get that it was such a disaster that EA can barely recover? That seems hyperbolic at best. Electronic Arts net income for the twelve months ending December 31, 2018 was $1.417B, a 41.42% increase year-over-year. Electronic Arts annual net income for 2018 was $1.043B, a 7.86% increase from 2017. Electronic Arts annual net income for 2017 was $0.967B, a 16.35% decline from 2016. Electronic Arts annual net income for 2016 was $1.156B, a 32.11% increase from 2015. I mean, their net income is measured in BILLIONS. You think underperforming by roughly $60 million is going to cripple their company?
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Post by majesticjazz on Feb 22, 2019 3:35:52 GMT
Anthem is out and it is a disaster. There are weaknesses, and they are many. Because Arekkz acknowlegdes them now, he is not a shill? Give me a break. I am not sure how well you know his channel to call him "unbiased". Watch his older videos of Anthem. Stuff from weeks ago, months ago. The guy pretty much used to work as a youtube propagandist for Anthem/Bioware/EA. Sadly for all of them, Anthem turned out to be below everyone's expectations. People have no choice other than acknowledging that now. Disaster according to who? Reviewers? I didn’t realize a 6-7 average was a disaster. Just because the guy has videos promoting BioWare and their games doesn’t mean they can’t write a review highlighting both their strengths and weaknesses. Lol
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Post by shinobiwan on Feb 22, 2019 3:37:27 GMT
Battlefield V scored significantly better than that and it is deemed as a massive disaster from which EA can barely recover anytime soon. I mean, assuredly they were not exceptionally pleased with Battlefield 5's sales (underperformed by 1 million copies) but where do you get that it was such a disaster that EA can barely recover? That seems hyperbolic at best. Electronic Arts net income for the twelve months ending December 31, 2018 was $1.417B, a 41.42% increase year-over-year. Electronic Arts annual net income for 2018 was $1.043B, a 7.86% increase from 2017. Electronic Arts annual net income for 2017 was $0.967B, a 16.35% decline from 2016. Electronic Arts annual net income for 2016 was $1.156B, a 32.11% increase from 2015. I mean, their net income is measured in BILLIONS. You think underperforming by roughly $60 million is going to cripple their company? If a company EA's size isn't doing over a billion in revenue, something is really wrong. Single digit revenue growth is abysmal for a growth company like EA. A single business division underperforming by $60m is absolutely a major event for a company, yes.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Feb 22, 2019 3:42:55 GMT
I mean, assuredly they were not exceptionally pleased with Battlefield 5's sales (underperformed by 1 million copies) but where do you get that it was such a disaster that EA can barely recover? That seems hyperbolic at best. Electronic Arts net income for the twelve months ending December 31, 2018 was $1.417B, a 41.42% increase year-over-year. Electronic Arts annual net income for 2018 was $1.043B, a 7.86% increase from 2017. Electronic Arts annual net income for 2017 was $0.967B, a 16.35% decline from 2016. Electronic Arts annual net income for 2016 was $1.156B, a 32.11% increase from 2015. I mean, their net income is measured in BILLIONS. You think underperforming by roughly $60 million is going to cripple their company? If a company EA's size isn't doing over a billion in revenue, something is really wrong. Single digit revenue growth is abysmal for a growth company like EA. A single business division underperforming by $60m is absolutely a major event for a company, yes. So when they had a 16% decline from '16 to '17 they must have gone bankrupt, yes? Jeeze. EA's in trouble like climate change isn't a thing.
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Post by shinobiwan on Feb 22, 2019 3:51:02 GMT
If a company EA's size isn't doing over a billion in revenue, something is really wrong. Single digit revenue growth is abysmal for a growth company like EA. A single business division underperforming by $60m is absolutely a major event for a company, yes. So when they had a 16% decline from '16 to '17 they must have gone bankrupt, yes? Jeeze. EA's in trouble like climate change isn't a thing. This post makes so little sense that I don't really know how to respond.
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Post by Terminator Force on Feb 22, 2019 3:54:32 GMT
If a company EA's size isn't doing over a billion in revenue, something is really wrong. Single digit revenue growth is abysmal for a growth company like EA. A single business division underperforming by $60m is absolutely a major event for a company, yes. So when they had a 16% decline from '16 to '17 they must have gone bankrupt, yes? Jeeze. EA's in trouble like climate change isn't a thing. Of course climate change isn't a thing, unless you include geoengineering.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Feb 22, 2019 3:54:54 GMT
So when they had a 16% decline from '16 to '17 they must have gone bankrupt, yes? Jeeze. EA's in trouble like climate change isn't a thing. This post makes so little sense that I don't really know how to respond. Sorry, that quoted part first shown was what you said (thought you might have remembered, wasn't that long ago). You insinuated that if a billion dollar company came up short in expectations by not even 2x CEO earnings that they were in big trouble. I didn't get it either, but here we are I guess.
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Post by Terminator Force on Feb 22, 2019 3:55:35 GMT
So when they had a 16% decline from '16 to '17 they must have gone bankrupt, yes? Jeeze. EA's in trouble like climate change isn't a thing. This post makes so little sense that I don't really know how to respond. That's not an argument. Point out where it don't make sense.
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