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Post by vertigomez on Dec 5, 2018 6:11:51 GMT
'Nother artpost, because why not. With his Warden: Just Zev:
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 13, 2018 1:19:11 GMT
RIP me... cause of death.... zevran feels
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Post by coldwetn0se on Dec 13, 2018 19:40:48 GMT
So I did something that surprised me. I managed to redo (though am not quite finished yet) that old play through, as stated in an earlier post. Went through the Alistair romance with my Dalish rogue, got dumped right after the Landsmeet since he was made King, then started up the camp convo's I had stockpiled for Zev. Since I hadn't spoke to him yet after meeting dear old Taliesen, I forgot there was a flirt option in that dialogue and chose to take it. Traveled around Denerim finishing up the Hooded Couriers, then back to camp. Zev "tsk'ed" my warden for looking so tired, and got a much needed massage. Then asked about his last mission *wibble*. Set off with Alistair, Wynne and Dog to complete Return to Ostagar, then back to camp. Zev offered the earring and "for science", I turned it down until it "meant something" (this was a deviation from my original play through, since I had already accepted the earring in friendship during that run, so many years ago). Had one more convo which negated the lossed approval from the earring refusal. Tried to sleep with him, and he said no, of course. Went to finish out the last of the Places of Power (deep roads and Circle), tromped back to camp. Confronted him about what was wrong, and got the earring offer again. Then had some pirate cosplay with a devilishly handsome elf. Basically, I have a completed romance with Zev, which I didn't have previously in the original play through. This is where I think it might get interesting. I have decided to do three runs of the final showdown, making a marked save right before Morrigan's ritual offer. My intent is to first choose not to accept the ritual, have Alistair stay behind (since even an Alistair who dumps a warden after the Landsmeet, can/will jump in at the last moment and take the killing blow on Archie). I will bring Zevran, Shale and Wynne *cue "Blaze of Glory"*. The funeral should have specific reactions from both Zev and Alistair - going by a rocky memory of old BSN posts. My next run will be from the gate onward, where I will bring Alistair, Zevran and Wynne (still no ritual done). I want to see if some flag is checked that might cause Alistair NOT to take the killing blow, since I completed the Zevran romance. Again, science baby! Once my curiosities are sated, I will persuade Alistair to go through the Ritual (want to go through Awakenings with this character, just as I did in the original play through). I will take Zev, Alistair and Morrigan, kill Archie, have a party, then head off to Vigil's Keep. TLDR: Science, stab-stab-stab, die, live again, go play the expansion.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 15, 2018 6:36:57 GMT
I was messing around in the Keep and Zev's romance tile description undoes me - "from would-be assassin to lover, Zevran stood by the Warden in all things." I'm...... cry. 😢 - coldwetn0se I'm impressed you've managed to juggle all that!! Not to mention the funeral scene, ooouch.
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Post by coldwetn0se on Dec 15, 2018 6:57:32 GMT
I was messing around in the Keep and Zev's romance tile description undoes me - "from would-be assassin to lover, Zevran stood by the Warden in all things." I'm...... cry. 😢 - coldwetn0se I'm impressed you've managed to juggle all that!! Not to mention the funeral scene, ooouch. So you might recall me mentioning that I opted to replay this on the xbone (backward compatible, blah-blah-blah), since I originally played this character on the 360. I went through the funeral, and Alistair is the only one that says or does anything during the funeral. However, I may have recalled it incorrectly, and instead, the Zevran material is from a mod...*shrug* Regardless, the epilogue text is truly heartbreaking for poor Zev. Admittedly got a tad weepy. However, true to my word, I did replay the end-game and had Morrigan preform the ritual. Just got the letter from Zevran while playing Awakenings. So all good!
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 16, 2018 2:31:39 GMT
I don't know what mods you have installed - or how romancing Alistair conflicts with it - but I do know they pan to Zev's sad face during the funeral if you sacrifice yourself, so that part is from the vanilla game.
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Post by coldwetn0se on Dec 16, 2018 18:19:31 GMT
I don't know what mods you have installed - or how romancing Alistair conflicts with it - but I do know they pan to Zev's sad face during the funeral if you sacrifice yourself, so that part is from the vanilla game. Hmmmm...I am going to try and find a YT clip that I can compare. The closest there came to a "pan", was a very wide shot; not easy to see an expression on Zev's face. The epilogue had all the correct stuff regarding a heartbroken Zevran, who turns down new offers from would be suitors. Maybe it's a bug on the console version. Will report back when I can view a comparison.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 18, 2018 23:45:02 GMT
I posted these in the dialogue thread because they cracked me up... figure they belong here too. And just a question for the thread... if Zevran didn't/couldn't end up with the Warden, who do you think would be a good match for him? I like his relationship with Isabela but I think they are both too wary of catching feelings to ever make the first move in a non-sexual context, so despite their history I don't see that going anywhere. I never gave the Zevris pairing much thought until I read this fic (which is AMAZING by the way - made me realize how much common ground they share). He and Bull together would be hilarious and tender and deadly in equal measure. I think my Inquisitor Adaar could've fallen for him in another life - that is, one where she was a Warden and had never met her wife. I just don't want him to be lonely and sad. 😭
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Post by coldwetn0se on Dec 19, 2018 0:27:42 GMT
I definitely have a few Hawkes and Inquisitors that would be well suited. Two that come to mind are my Ezriel Hawke (he romanced Izzy, and had the three-way with Zev and Bella), and my dwarf Inquisitor Mace (she and Bull are currently paired). Since we are including characters from all three games, then I might suggest Bull, Harding, Finn (for the lulz), and maybe even Charter - depending on how much more we get to learn about her. As for rare, but possible, Fenris and Alistair. The latter due to this fan fic (which has a very special scenario that makes the pairing more believable). *NOTE* Fic is definitely NSFW.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 19, 2018 0:49:03 GMT
coldwetn0se link's not working but I'm almost 100% sure I know which fic it is, and if so..... yeah, highly unlikely but also strangely believable! I'm a fan. There is also this wonderfully in-character Bull/Zevran fic (also NSFW, mind the rating) since that pairing was brought up. I think Merrill/Zevran would work surprisingly well, though I've never seen any fic or art of it. She gets along well with Isabela and appreciates a good dirty joke, he has some serious elf solidarity in some of his dialogue and wouldn't mind the blood magic... I could see it.
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Post by copper on Dec 19, 2018 1:00:42 GMT
And just a question for the thread... if Zevran didn't/couldn't end up with the Warden, who do you think would be a good match for him? I like his relationship with Isabela but I think they are both too wary of catching feelings to ever make the first move in a non-sexual context, so despite their history I don't see that going anywhere. I never gave the Zevris pairing much thought until I read this fic (which is AMAZING by the way - made me realize how much common ground they share). He and Bull together would be hilarious and tender and deadly in equal measure. I think my Inquisitor Adaar could've fallen for him in another life - that is, one where she was a Warden and had never met her wife. I just don't want him to be lonely and sad. 😭 You know now that you mention it, I can see Zevran with Fenris. Fenris gets along well with purple Hawkes (a dynamic I absolutely adore). I can see a similar dynamic existing between these two. They also do have things in common despite their differences in how they deal with them. I can see Bull working too, as well as Hawkes I've played if they didn't already have an LI. What about Josephine? I think their personalities could mesh well, though Zevran approaches his relationship with the warden with sex before feelings, and Josephine seems to be the opposite with the Inquisitor.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 19, 2018 1:21:35 GMT
You know now that you mention it, I can see Zevran with Fenris. Fenris gets along well with purple Hawkes (a dynamic I absolutely adore). I can see a similar dynamic existing between these two. They also do have things in common despite their differences in how they deal with them. I can see Bull working too, as well as Hawkes I've played if they didn't already have an LI. Right?! That must be why I also like the idea of Bull with Fenris so much. I think I just like serious people with people who can lighten them up. And that fic I posted as well as this really insightful tumblr post highlight just how much Zevran and Fenris have in common. Yes! Zevran would do the whole bow-and-kiss-the-lady's-hand thing, flirt shamelessly, duel for her in the most dramatic way possible just because he knows she'd find it dashing and romantic... They're both from Antiva but on opposite ends of the social strata. I'm so happy my smol assassin boi is so widely shipped. 😂
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Post by coldwetn0se on Dec 19, 2018 2:32:19 GMT
Oops on the "link". It should work now. (Though, you may be right, and have already seen/read it. Twas quite popular back in the day. )
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 19, 2018 5:12:11 GMT
Oops on the "link". It should work now. (Though, you may be right, and have already seen/read it. Twas quite popular back in the day. ) Oh! That is different from the fic I was thinking of, but thanks for the link. - Since we're on the topic of Zevran x not-the-Warden ships... have some relevant fanstuffs!
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Post by Sokemis on Dec 22, 2018 17:52:36 GMT
When Zevran visits his love at Amaranthine Source
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Post by MarilynRobert on Dec 23, 2018 20:23:46 GMT
snip And just a question for the thread... if Zevran didn't/couldn't end up with the Warden, who do you think would be a good match for him? I like his relationship with Isabela but I think they are both too wary of catching feelings to ever make the first move in a non-sexual context, so despite their history I don't see that going anywhere. I never gave the Zevris pairing much thought until I read this fic (which is AMAZING by the way - made me realize how much common ground they share). He and Bull together would be hilarious and tender and deadly in equal measure. I think my Inquisitor Adaar could've fallen for him in another life - that is, one where she was a Warden and had never met her wife. I just don't want him to be lonely and sad. 😭 Ha, as I was thinking about this, a very NOT likely pairing that came to mind would be Zevran and Avelene. Can you imagine...ha ha...not sure how that could ever happen but made me laugh.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 24, 2018 20:37:21 GMT
^ He'd probably appreciate the muscles. Sigh. The Zevran feels are real and they are never going away. THANKS A LOT, ANTIVA. also THIS WHOLE ENTIRE COMIC, KILL ME IM CRYIN
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Post by phoray on Dec 25, 2018 0:13:59 GMT
Zevran makes my heart ache, just like Fenris does. I didn't understand his character until I tried to understand his romance, and once I got it, it didn't matter what was depicted on screen. In between the dialogue we have is magic.
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 10, 2019 6:43:29 GMT
Zevran makes my heart ache, just like Fenris does. I didn't understand his character until I tried to understand his romance, and once I got it, it didn't matter what was depicted on screen. In between the dialogue we have is magic. His devotion is what gets me. I'm a sucker for a LI who shows rather than tells you they care about you; all the passionate declarations in the world mean little if, when it comes down to it, they don't have your back. Zevran really does think his Warden is The Greatest Thing Ever™. He's an elf who threatens the Queen of Ferelden to her face when her actions put your life in jeopardy. I LOVE HIM. He's clever, he knows that Morrigan is up to some shit, he has thoughts about religion and different cultures... he bargains for his life with the only things he feels he has to offer: his skills as an assassin and his skills as a lover, because he's been made to believe his body is his only asset, is all anyone wants from him (for killing or sex). The Warden can prove him wrong - You Are Better Than You Think You Are - and that makes me so happy. 😢❤ Here's a little mini ficlet courtesy of spicyshimmy. The first time you see him, he’s at your feet. He can’t get any lower–well, except by being buried in the ground.
You don’t give him your hand. You watch him rise, shameful and slow. You know none of you can put down roots on the road but you can leave footprints in the mud, some of them frozen overnight during a bitter snow.
He’s wary around the dog–whispers My, what big teeth you have! against a brindled ear. He chafes his fingers together. He never complains of blisters or picks at scabs.
You consider his hair by the firelight, the way his skin begins to glow. His laughter in the tunnels. His gasps of horror that shift toward weary chuckles, like spinning straw into gold.
You give him the things you find–trinkets, really, nothing more. Gloves for his cold fingers; boots for his blistered toes. You feel a little like a mabari pup bringing in dead things from the outdoors, laying them proudly at his feet, waiting to be scratched between the ears.
You wonder if he’ll rub your belly until you roll over onto your back for him.
You think he’ll like the joke.
The first time you saw him, he was laid so low. Now, he stands at your side. He only had to rise, you think. It wasn’t ever that he had to grow. And some fanart:
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 10, 2019 15:37:52 GMT
On another note, I'm trying to revise my "secondary canon" - it's the one with the Zevmance, and while I absolutely love my f!Tabris and the chemistry she has with Zevran, the problem is that I just cannot see her as Warden-Commander, can't imagine her wanting to fuss with anything that goes on in Awakening, can't imagine her going on a cure for the Calling and I can't imagine her writing the letter the Inquisitor receives in DAI. Like I kind of resent the fact that she's a Warden because she just ISN'T one. I guess I could headcanon that she haaates being a Warden and that's what the Calling stuff is all about, but that just feels like a cop-out. I'd rather have a Warden who embraces their role or at least doesn't rail against it. So I'm trying to find someone who fills that role. Gender, race, class, etc. don't matter so much (though with Zev around I avoid playing dual wielders). In this PT I'll also be romancing Isabela and Sera. So..... tell me all about your Zevran-romancing Warden.
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Post by copper on Jan 10, 2019 16:24:16 GMT
On another note, I'm trying to revise my "secondary canon" - it's the one with the Zevmance, and while I absolutely love my f!Tabris and the chemistry she has with Zevran, the problem is that I just cannot see her as Warden-Commander, can't imagine her wanting to fuss with anything that goes on in Awakening, can't imagine her going on a cure for the Calling and I can't imagine her writing the letter the Inquisitor receives in DAI. Like I kind of resent the fact that she's a Warden because she just ISN'T one. I guess I could headcanon that she haaates being a Warden and that's what the Calling stuff is all about, but that just feels like a cop-out. I'd rather have a Warden who embraces their role or at least doesn't rail against it. So I'm trying to find someone who fills that role. Gender, race, class, etc. don't matter so much (though with Zev around I avoid playing dual wielders). In this PT I'll also be romancing Isabela and Sera. So..... tell me all about your Zevran-romancing Warden. I think you can make a case for any origin, but I've always liked Zevran with a dwarf commoner. In fact, if I make an alt world state that's probably the combo I'd use. They just seem like they'd get each other's circumstances more than the other LIs would, though there is the dialogue with Morrigan once you meet Brosca's mother again. I also always imagine Brosca to consider themself the ugly sibling next to Rica. We all know Zevran would be enthusiastic in convincing them otherwise. It's also much easier for me to have a dwarf warden of either origin embrace their new role, since Duncan is saving their life in either scenario and Grey Wardens seem to be well regarded in Orzammar anyway.
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 10, 2019 16:34:32 GMT
On another note, I'm trying to revise my "secondary canon" - it's the one with the Zevmance, and while I absolutely love my f!Tabris and the chemistry she has with Zevran, the problem is that I just cannot see her as Warden-Commander, can't imagine her wanting to fuss with anything that goes on in Awakening, can't imagine her going on a cure for the Calling and I can't imagine her writing the letter the Inquisitor receives in DAI. Like I kind of resent the fact that she's a Warden because she just ISN'T one. I guess I could headcanon that she haaates being a Warden and that's what the Calling stuff is all about, but that just feels like a cop-out. I'd rather have a Warden who embraces their role or at least doesn't rail against it. So I'm trying to find someone who fills that role. Gender, race, class, etc. don't matter so much (though with Zev around I avoid playing dual wielders). In this PT I'll also be romancing Isabela and Sera. So..... tell me all about your Zevran-romancing Warden. I think you can make a case for any origin, but I've always liked Zevran with a dwarf commoner. In fact, if I make an alt world state that's probably the combo I'd use. They just seem like they'd get each other's circumstances more than the other LIs would, though there is the dialogue with Morrigan once you meet Brosca's mother again. I also always imagine Brosca to consider themself the ugly sibling next to Rica. We all know Zevran would be enthusiastic in convincing them otherwise. It's also much easier for me to have a dwarf warden of either origin embrace their new role, since Duncan is saving their life in either scenario and Grey Wardens seem to be well regarded in Orzammar anyway. I am really fond of the DC - it's my favorite origin, and I agree that they're one of the ones who make the most sense when it comes to embracing their role as a Grey Warden. (Aeducan too, though I imagine mine throwing themselves into the role of Grey Warden in order to forget all the bullshit they just went through, to try to justify why they're still alive when they lost their whole identity.) Only thing that bothers me is that damn letter, since even Brosca will say stuff about not being from the Carta clans, honor the Stone and do our people proud, blah blah blah. I guess I could make this world state the one where Zevran hooks up with Brosca and Cadash hooks up with Sera. Elf/dwarf love all around.
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Post by coldwetn0se on Jan 10, 2019 22:03:08 GMT
Zev has ended up with every race/origin/gender/class, at least once (since I have played all origins/classes/gender/race more than once), but I admit to being fond of male Tabris and female Mahariel with Zevran. I truly enjoyed my jocular male rogue Cousland, and my uber serious mage (did both a male and female) in a Zevran romance, but the first two mentioned are my favorite. PS: I do like playing a DW rogue with my Zev romancers, but that is in large part because it is my favorite class/weapon style.
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Post by Sokemis on Jan 10, 2019 23:27:35 GMT
On another note, I'm trying to revise my "secondary canon" - it's the one with the Zevmance, and while I absolutely love my f!Tabris and the chemistry she has with Zevran, the problem is that I just cannot see her as Warden-Commander, can't imagine her wanting to fuss with anything that goes on in Awakening, can't imagine her going on a cure for the Calling and I can't imagine her writing the letter the Inquisitor receives in DAI. Like I kind of resent the fact that she's a Warden because she just ISN'T one. I guess I could headcanon that she haaates being a Warden and that's what the Calling stuff is all about, but that just feels like a cop-out. I'd rather have a Warden who embraces their role or at least doesn't rail against it. So..... tell me all about your Zevran-romancing Warden. My canon and favorite will always be F!Tabris x Zevran. She begrudgingly became the Warden Commander to deal with the lingering Darkspawn issue while hubby Zevran was away in Antiva dealing with the lingering Crow issue. HATED dealing with the noble shems - greatly encouraged the magical tricks Anders would sneakily play on them, especially the ones that insulted her. {side note - Thank the Maker she didn't become the Inquisitor... I think she would have either been kicked out of the Winter Palace before the first bell and/or all four of the key players of the Game may have wound up dead } After Awakening she left to join Zev. The quest to find the cure for the Calling wasn't anything noble, just an attempt to not die young (she was only 18 when conscripted) and 20 or so years with Zev was not long enough in her book. As for the letter, I agree it doesn't sound like what either Tabris or Zevran would write. I like to think that they had some contacts, and one of them was the one that got the Inquisitor's/Leliana's letter to the Hero. Instead of writing the reply herself, Tabris basically told the contact "Just send her a letter back and sign my name. Tell her that sorry I can't help, Zev and I have our own problem to solve, and I'm sure the Inquisitor will be able to solve this without us. But make it sound, you know, nice and official. Oh and send Leliana this belt, I think she'll like it." That being said, I also like the idea of Brosca x Zevran (even though my Brosca went for Leliana). And Brosca was my character that most embraced and liked being a Warden. But again, that letter doesn't sound like what I feel she would write...
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Post by Liadan on Jan 11, 2019 14:38:39 GMT
My favorite is f!Tabris with Zevran but i also have romanced him with a f!Aeducan and a f!Brosca and i quite liked the chemistry between them. And i realized i never tried Mahariel/Zevran , that seems a good pairing too (seems like i have an excuse to do another DAO playthrough ).
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