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Post by phoray on Feb 15, 2018 1:00:04 GMT
I have a question regarding Zevran. A lot of folks say they rebound to him after Alistair broke it off at the Landsmeet. That he "put the peices of their broken heart back together". Does he actually reference that the Warden was tossed? or does his romance options just become available as if Alistair had never happened? I thought it was always the latter. But if it's the former, watch me plan to play a game where Ali breaks it off with me just to hear that dialogue.
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 16, 2018 5:53:26 GMT
I have a question regarding Zevran. A lot of folks say they rebound to him after Alistair broke it off at the Landsmeet. That he "put the peices of their broken heart back together". Does he actually reference that the Warden was tossed? or does his romance options just become available as if Alistair had never happened? I thought it was always the latter. But if it's the former, watch me plan to play a game where Ali breaks it off with me just to hear that dialogue. I don't thiiiink he references it? I think it's just headcanon. Disclaimer: I'm not 100% sure as I've never actually tried this, I'm just mildly obsessed with this character.
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Post by Iddy on Mar 14, 2018 17:40:52 GMT
Zevran's comment about how Wynne's boobs are better than some younger women makes me want to see her with her own body model.
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Post by Iddy on Mar 15, 2018 13:09:35 GMT
"Here, take that templar fellow. Rugged good looks, quick wit, manly shoulders. Just getting him to hop borders is a challenge worthy of the great heroes." Does "hop borders" mean getting Alistair to give men a chance despite being straight?
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Post by phoray on Mar 15, 2018 16:31:32 GMT
"Here, take that templar fellow. Rugged good looks, quick wit, manly shoulders. Just getting him to hop borders is a challenge worthy of the great heroes." Does "hop borders" mean getting Alistair to give men a chance despite being straight? yes, and a clever way of saying it at that.
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 15, 2018 17:42:38 GMT
"Here, take that templar fellow. Rugged good looks, quick wit, manly shoulders. Just getting him to hop borders is a challenge worthy of the great heroes." Does "hop borders" mean getting Alistair to give men a chance despite being straight? I think he's just hoping he's bicurious.
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Post by Walter Black on Mar 15, 2018 19:29:20 GMT
Zevran's comment about how Wynne's boobs are better than some younger women makes me want to see her with her own body model. Didn't notice much difference between her body model or Morrigan or Leliana's when everyone stripped at the Urn...
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Post by q9j9p on Mar 24, 2018 11:03:09 GMT
Hi vertigomez... Yep, that's Zev, my modless, vanilla flavoured friend...
...thanks...
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Post by Sunegami on Mar 26, 2018 17:45:34 GMT
So who here has opinions about a semi-open relationship/threesome between Alistair, a female Warden, and Zevran?
My canon is that Alistair and my Warden became king and queen, but they also both have some feelings for Zev, who returns them. I've been accused of having my Warden interested in/fetishizing Zevran solely because he's an elf, but that's not the case at all, it's truly a case of loving both men equally, just in different ways. Anyone else headcanon something similar?
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 26, 2018 18:22:34 GMT
So who here has opinions about a semi-open relationship/threesome between Alistair, a female Warden, and Zevran? My canon is that Alistair and my Warden became king and queen, but they also both have some feelings for Zev, who returns them. I've been accused of having my Warden interested in/fetishizing Zevran solely because he's an elf, but that's not the case at all, it's truly a case of loving both men equally, just in different ways. Anyone else headcanon something similar? I don't... because I'm not interested in Alistair and between the two Zevran is the only one I'd consider marrying. But we know Zev was in a polyamorous relationship before and he's attracted to Alistair (and Leliana and Morrigan, if your OT3's configured that way) so I imagine he'd be juuuust fine with that arrangement. I don't know where people are getting fetishization from. Being attracted to a man who happens to be an elf is hardly fetishization unless you constantly point out his elvishness and talk about how ~exotic~ his pointy ears are.
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Post by mousestalker on Mar 26, 2018 19:21:51 GMT
So who here has opinions about a semi-open relationship/threesome between Alistair, a female Warden, and Zevran? My canon is that Alistair and my Warden became king and queen, but they also both have some feelings for Zev, who returns them. I've been accused of having my Warden interested in/fetishizing Zevran solely because he's an elf, but that's not the case at all, it's truly a case of loving both men equally, just in different ways. Anyone else headcanon something similar? I don't... because I'm not interested in Alistair and between the two Zevran is the only one I'd consider marrying. But we know Zev was in a polyamorous relationship before and he's attracted to Alistair (and Leliana and Morrigan, if your OT3's configured that way) so I imagine he'd be juuuust fine with that arrangement. I don't know where people are getting fetishization from. Being attracted to a man who happens to be an elf is hardly fetishization unless you constantly point out his elvishness and talk about how ~exotic~ his pointy ears are. When it comes to Zev, I try to remember his past and try not be too elfish.
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Post by Sokemis on Apr 4, 2018 2:36:03 GMT
Don't know how I've missed these character threads in general, and Zevran in particular, but better late than never I guess... Would like to start my answering the questions put forth by the OP: As a companion:
Where does Zevran rank as companion out of all the companions in the Dragon Age games?
If he's not at the very top, he's definitely tied for the top spot
Have you killed Zevran after his initial attack during any of your play throughs (your first play through or canon one, specifically)?
Nope, and don't think I ever could now, lol
Were you ever attacked by Zevran in Denerim because of a low approval rate?
Not yet, usually have him maxed or too close to maxed by then for him to betray me. However I do have a Warden planned that it might just happen to. The question is if I as a player will be able to go that route and actually have to kill him.... (It's right up there with not having enough "approval" with Fenris in either direction and having to fight him in the end game, don't know if I'll be able to go through with it or end up chickening out.)
If you have Zevran in your party, who else do you include? (For banter and party tactics?)
I plan on the easy setting, and by this point have enough mods that I don't really worry too much about party balance. As far as banter goes, he's fun with everyone but especially like pairing him with Wynne and Alistair.
How closely does your Warden's morality align with Zevran's? What do you disagree/agree on?
Canon Warden had to do some less than legal "jobs" *cough* theif *cough* to make ends meet in the Alienage, so she didn't really judge him as far as his profession goes. There might have been something else, but the only thing I can think of at the moment that they disagreed on was using vs destroying the Anvil. My canon Warden talked Alistair into doing the Dark Ritual (DR) in-game. However, in happy headcanon world, she and Zev did disagree on the DR. She wasn't against the ritual itself, but couldn't bring herself to talk Alistair into it, felt like she would have been forcing him. Zev felt that by not telling him she was still taking his choice away. Zev ended up being the one to tell Alistair (although he respected her wishes enough not to try and talk/force him into actually doing it). Neither thought to tell her when Alistair went through with the DR (needless to say, she was one very confused Warden when woke up after killing Archie). She was a little upset with Zev initially when she found out that he went behind her back, but quickly forgave him after talking with Alistair.
Did your Warden (headcanon) stay in contact with Zevran after the events of Origins?
Canon Warden romanced and married him.... so I'll go with yes
Did you ever unintentionally flirt with Zevran?
A couple of my Wardens may have... I however knew exactly what I was doing
What's a favorite Zevran banter or remark?
Maker, too many to choose from... As a romance (most answers for my canon Warden, Naliea Tabris):
Where does Zevran's romance rank out of all the romances in the Dragon Age games?
Zevran is my favorite Origins romance without a doubt. Throughout the entire series he is tied for the top spot
Was he a first play through romance (second, third)? If so, who did you romance before?
First, and second/canon
Did his romance surprise you (exceed your expectations)?
Very pleasantly so
Did he offer up a massage to your Warden first, or did your Warden proposition him initially?
He offered the massage, but she knew what she was getting into when she finally took him up on the offer.
Did you accept his earring right away or hold off and make it a proposal?
Held out for the proposal in-game. However, I like to headcanon that she took it the first time it was offered (he was nothing but patient with her, she wasn't going to turn around and force him to feel/admit to something he wasn't ready to). But after rescuing her from Fort Drakon, he admitted to how he felt and why he really gave her the earring.
What was your reaction to DA2's Zevran?
Wasn't impressed with most of the non-companion elves in DA2. (At this point I just chalk their appearance up to "Varric doesn't find elves attractive, so he didn't describe them very favorably - with the exception of his friends".) I loved that he was still faithful to a romanced Warden, when the bug was fixed - the flirting was fine, would have worried about him if he didn't flirt with them, lol
Which Warden do you romance Zevran with (race, origin, and a male or female)?
Zevran x f!Tabris is my Origins OTP. It just happens that I've only romanced him with female elves (City and Dalish) so far, but that doesn't mean I won't romance him with a different race/gender/origin in the future.
What have your Warden and Zevran been up to over the years (assuming your Warden isn't dead)?Traveling, killing slavers and Crows mostly. Most recently searching for a cure to the calling.
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Post by Yermogi on May 10, 2018 19:37:42 GMT
I have a question regarding Zevran. A lot of folks say they rebound to him after Alistair broke it off at the Landsmeet. That he "put the peices of their broken heart back together". Does he actually reference that the Warden was tossed? or does his romance options just become available as if Alistair had never happened? I thought it was always the latter. But if it's the former, watch me plan to play a game where Ali breaks it off with me just to hear that dialogue. To my recollection, Zevran never makes a comment about it, and neither does Alistair- you can still talk to Alistair later and discuss the breakup and lingering feelings and I don't remember him saying anything about Zevran. BUT when Morrigan talks to you about the whole Dark Ritual or whatever they call it, she brings up how devastated Alistair would feel if you died- and then I remember specifically her saying "Or if you'd rather, think of Zevran... (etc etc)". I remember it because I was so surprised that there was any alternative dialogue for doing the two romance thing. But like I said, as far as I can recall, only Morrigan brings up both romances in a way that acknowledges you've been with them both, and that's only towards the end. Did this happen to anyone else?
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Post by vertigomez on May 12, 2018 17:03:10 GMT
I have a question regarding Zevran. A lot of folks say they rebound to him after Alistair broke it off at the Landsmeet. That he "put the peices of their broken heart back together". Does he actually reference that the Warden was tossed? or does his romance options just become available as if Alistair had never happened? I thought it was always the latter. But if it's the former, watch me plan to play a game where Ali breaks it off with me just to hear that dialogue. To my recollection, Zevran never makes a comment about it, and neither does Alistair- you can still talk to Alistair later and discuss the breakup and lingering feelings and I don't remember him saying anything about Zevran. BUT when Morrigan talks to you about the whole Dark Ritual or whatever they call it, she brings up how devastated Alistair would feel if you died- and then I remember specifically her saying "Or if you'd rather, think of Zevran... (etc etc)". I remember it because I was so surprised that there was any alternative dialogue for doing the two romance thing. But like I said, as far as I can recall, only Morrigan brings up both romances in a way that acknowledges you've been with them both, and that's only towards the end. Did this happen to anyone else? I don't know about a two romance thing, but I seem to recall Morrigan segueing into "or if you'd rather, think of Zevran..." when her initial approach failed to convince me. On another note, I found this beautiful fanart but I'm having trouble reading the name at the bottom so I can source it properly source thanks Curious Crow ! 😍😭
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Post by vertigomez on May 12, 2018 17:37:25 GMT
Thank you!
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Post by Yermogi on May 14, 2018 23:38:42 GMT
I was doing some reading the other day, and I came across a quote that made me think of Zevran; some people have commented that the fact he never verbally expresses his love to the Warden is a little disappointing, but when he writes to the Warden and when he speaks about the Warden to others, his affection is clearly felt in his comments.
The quote is from Roberto Benigni from an interview about his film "Life is Beautiful" (a great film by the way). He acted in the movie with his wife, and the interviewer asked him a question- the response made me think of how Zevran is when it comes to his love for the Warden.
I don't think that Zevran is uncertain about his feelings or unwilling to admit to them- I think it's just something that's so deep and powerful for him that he doesn't really know how to do them justice just talking about them.
I always refused the earring from Zevran the first time- I always envisioned my Warden being very open and upfront about her feelings, and expecting the same from others; she wouldn't have accepted the earring from Zevran without him being honest as to what it means to him. The resulting conversation is very sweet to me. He goes from being so suave and debonair to being so uncertain but clearly longing for more and unable to articulate what it is he actually wants. It's one of the few times he's speechless, and I love it.
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Post by vertigomez on May 15, 2018 20:07:35 GMT
^ I love that very much. To be honest I never even noticed that certain characters never actually come out and say "I love you" until others pointed it out; it's just never been that important to me. You can tell Zevran loves the Warden through his actions, the way he talks about the Warden as being worthy of worship, how happy he is to be in his or her presence. Zevran's feelings are reflected in the way he feels when he's around the Warden - happy, worthy, beloved. And I do like to think there are some things too intimate for words.
On another note, just leaving this here:
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Post by Sokemis on May 15, 2018 21:49:52 GMT
And then there's also the fact that his whole life it was pounded into him that love was at best an illusion to be sold, at worst a weakness that would get you killed. The only other person I think he had any kind of true feelings for was Rinna, and he was tricked into helping kill her before he was even able to truly explore those feelings. He no doubt feels a very strong love for the Warden, as others said he proves this with his actions and how he talks about his Warden. But at the same time, he's only just starting to be able to fully understand the depth of what he's feeling, let alone be able to articulate those feelings to the Warden.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 15, 2018 21:57:30 GMT
I have a question. Does Zevran have a non-sexual option for his romance? I know Leliana does, I know Morrigan does not, and I think Alistair might but I don't know about Zevran.
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Post by vertigomez on May 15, 2018 22:11:21 GMT
I have a question. Does Zevran have a non-sexual option for his romance? I know Leliana does, I know Morrigan does not, and I think Alistair might but I don't know about Zevran. I know for sure you can hold off on the sex until there are feelings involved, and I'm 99% sure you can forego sex entirely though there's still plenty of innuendo-laced dialogue.
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Post by Sokemis on May 15, 2018 22:25:42 GMT
I have a question. Does Zevran have a non-sexual option for his romance? I know Leliana does, I know Morrigan does not, and I think Alistair might but I don't know about Zevran. As vertigomez said, sex isn't need to start/advance a romance with Zev. At a certain approval rating he will invite you back to his tent, but you can decline the offer without losing approval or ending the romance. My Tabris had him at I think Adore (the highest you can get without completing his personal quest and getting the ring) and a pretty high approval before they actually had sex. Even got the "of course I know you about you and Zevran, you two are keeping everyone one else awake at night" talk from Wynne before they started having sex. (My poor Warden was so confused, lol)
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 17, 2018 4:34:04 GMT
I have a question. Does Zevran have a non-sexual option for his romance? I know Leliana does, I know Morrigan does not, and I think Alistair might but I don't know about Zevran. I know for sure you can hold off on the sex until there are feelings involved, and I'm 99% sure you can forego sex entirely though there's still plenty of innuendo-laced dialogue. I have a question. Does Zevran have a non-sexual option for his romance? I know Leliana does, I know Morrigan does not, and I think Alistair might but I don't know about Zevran. As vertigomez said, sex isn't need to start/advance a romance with Zev. At a certain approval rating he will invite you back to his tent, but you can decline the offer without losing approval or ending the romance. My Tabris had him at I think Adore (the highest you can get without completing his personal quest and getting the ring) and a pretty high approval before they actually had sex. Even got the "of course I know you about you and Zevran, you two are keeping everyone one else awake at night" talk from Wynne before they started having sex. (My poor Warden was so confused, lol) Ah, okay. So it is actually optional but the outside dialogue makes it so it pretty much is sexual just sans sex scene like Bioware has done for some romances in DA and ME. Thank you for answering.
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