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Post by cloud9 on Mar 7, 2019 21:42:17 GMT
WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST READ... The Future of MassEffect and the cancer that BioWare has turned into? also the constant denial of most "fans" which lead to this crap show? People in this forum are SO sensitive if you ask me.
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 7, 2019 21:44:43 GMT
pass the torch to someone else New Vegas that was developed by Obsidian proves otherwise, and it was one of the best RPGs to date. And CD Projekt Red has put quality in their games, (I mean look at the Witcher series) and are one of the most competent developers unlike BioWare. It has come to s point that BioWare might as well stop making games and pass the torch to someone else. That's comparing Obsidian to Bethesda. Again, I say that when you only have to make one game it all looks wonderful. When you have to make two at the same time? CDPR has never done such a thing and it's a long wait for that single game to come out.
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Post by Serza on Mar 7, 2019 21:46:40 GMT
I dunno, the first Witcher is a MMO-grade game with pacing issues that literally make you tear your hair out (and a combat system that is BEYOND pitiful). Then the second came and it was actually a good RPG, except for the entire fact that it ended as soon as it began...
And there's the third that literally took everything someone else did, added a card game (that may or may not be an original idea) and offered a good mix of it, becoming a good game in it's own right.
A smart person would eagerly wait whether CDPR will become a one hit wonder or the current pinnacle of RPG devs. And here you are just assuming they will become the latter. Manage your expectations, geez.
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Post by cloud9 on Mar 7, 2019 21:51:21 GMT
I dunno, the first Witcher is a MMO-grade game with pacing issues that literally make you tear your hair out (and a combat system that is BEYOND pitiful). Then the second came and it was actually a good RPG, except for the entire fact that it ended as soon as it began... And there's the third that literally took everything someone else did, added a card game (that may or may not be an original idea) and offered a good mix of it, becoming a good game in it's own right. A smart person would eagerly wait whether CDPR will become a one hit wonder or the current pinnacle of RPG devs. And here you are just assuming they will become the latter. Manage your expectations, geez. That's your opinion.
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Post by cloud9 on Mar 7, 2019 21:53:03 GMT
pass the torch to someone else New Vegas that was developed by Obsidian proves otherwise, and it was one of the best RPGs to date. And CD Projekt Red has put quality in their games, (I mean look at the Witcher series) and are one of the most competent developers unlike BioWare. It has come to s point that BioWare might as well stop making games and pass the torch to someone else. That's comparing Obsidian to Bethesda. Again, I say that when you only have to make one game it all looks wonderful. When you have to make two at the same time? CDPR has never done such a thing and it's a long wait for that single game to come out. You're missing the point. But whatever.
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 8, 2019 1:47:20 GMT
That's comparing Obsidian to Bethesda. Again, I say that when you only have to make one game it all looks wonderful. When you have to make two at the same time? CDPR has never done such a thing and it's a long wait for that single game to come out. You're missing the point. But whatever. I get that that Obsidian and CDPR put out some great games. If either of them got hold of ME it would become something else entirely. There's a certain style BW has. Obsidian and CDPR have their own styles. To me, the better solution would be to make essentially a clone of ME. The Outer Worlds is Fallout in Space. I don't think anyone doubts that. If Obsidian or CDPR can truly make a superior ME why not just make their own RPG space games? If BW is going to fail, let them fail.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Mar 8, 2019 2:17:45 GMT
Wow and I thought I was negative with my view on global warming and balls to the wall capitalism. My big question however is if you believe that and aren't gonna buy it then why come here.
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Post by Serza on Mar 8, 2019 4:42:31 GMT
I dunno, the first Witcher is a MMO-grade game with pacing issues that literally make you tear your hair out (and a combat system that is BEYOND pitiful). Then the second came and it was actually a good RPG, except for the entire fact that it ended as soon as it began... And there's the third that literally took everything someone else did, added a card game (that may or may not be an original idea) and offered a good mix of it, becoming a good game in it's own right. A smart person would eagerly wait whether CDPR will become a one hit wonder or the current pinnacle of RPG devs. And here you are just assuming they will become the latter. Manage your expectations, geez. That's your opinion.
Huh, progress.
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Post by cloud9 on Mar 8, 2019 9:49:33 GMT
What's that suppose to mean?
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 8, 2019 11:07:47 GMT
What's that suppose to mean? Who knows. Is a mystery.
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 8, 2019 11:08:27 GMT
I dunno, the first Witcher is a MMO-grade game with pacing issues that literally make you tear your hair out (and a combat system that is BEYOND pitiful). Then the second came and it was actually a good RPG, except for the entire fact that it ended as soon as it began... And there's the third that literally took everything someone else did, added a card game (that may or may not be an original idea) and offered a good mix of it, becoming a good game in it's own right. A smart person would eagerly wait whether CDPR will become a one hit wonder or the current pinnacle of RPG devs. And here you are just assuming they will become the latter. Manage your expectations, geez. That's your opinion. Mine too. Make it two then.
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Post by cloud9 on Mar 8, 2019 21:40:02 GMT
Mine too. Make it two then. ....
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Post by smilesja on Mar 9, 2019 1:05:51 GMT
I know, it's about time. Seeesssh.
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Post by opuspace on Mar 10, 2019 16:59:35 GMT
If I wasn't making sense, I'd be happy to clarify things. I never said that Morda was particularly well written... only that her demeanor wasn't "lore breaking" nor do I believe she was written to "cater to a certain group." (whoever that "certain" group actually is since clip7 has never actually named it). I I will go on to say that I don't think Morda is that terribly written. That is, what she says isn't really the issue. I believe the VA did a particularly poor job of bringing her to life, combined with a very poorly conceived and animated "fight" scene.
Can they make a decent fist fight scene between Krogan with those arms? Morda could have been interesting if she had more to talk about beyond angry grunts.
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Post by melbella on Mar 10, 2019 17:04:16 GMT
Can they make a decent fist fight scene between Krogan with those arms? Would explain why they prefer head-butting....
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Post by opuspace on Mar 10, 2019 17:07:41 GMT
Can they make a decent fist fight scene between Krogan with those arms? Would explain why they prefer head-butting.... Now you've got me thinking about rhinos, or rams in a headbutting contest. I will admit that I miss the ME1 days when krogan charges were frighteningly quick. That helped put the terror of krogan into a player.
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Post by griffith82 on Mar 13, 2019 3:21:36 GMT
If I wasn't making sense, I'd be happy to clarify things. I never said that Morda was particularly well written... only that her demeanor wasn't "lore breaking" nor do I believe she was written to "cater to a certain group." (whoever that "certain" group actually is since clip7 has never actually named it). I I will go on to say that I don't think Morda is that terribly written. That is, what she says isn't really the issue. I believe the VA did a particularly poor job of bringing her to life, combined with a very poorly conceived and animated "fight" scene.
Can they make a decent fist fight scene between Krogan with those arms? Morda could have been interesting if she had more to talk about beyond angry grunts. I liked Morda. I thought she was done well. I dont let the fight scene bother me.
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Post by opuspace on Mar 13, 2019 3:25:32 GMT
Can they make a decent fist fight scene between Krogan with those arms? Morda could have been interesting if she had more to talk about beyond angry grunts. I liked Morda. I thought she was done well. I dont let the fight scene bother me. I wish I could say the same, but I keep hearing a lisp at the edge of her words, which makes me snicker every time. I do like that she's reasonable about merging the Krogan colony to the Nexus (even though I'm half expecting that to blow up in Ryder's face). Maybe I was expecting something like when Grunt bodyslammed Shepard into the wall sort of fighting. It's awkward, but more of a symptom of Andromeda's unpolished state. Makes me really want more attention to be given to a sequel.
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Post by griffith82 on Mar 13, 2019 3:26:50 GMT
I liked Morda. I thought she was done well. I dont let the fight scene bother me. I wish I could say the same, but I keep hearing a lisp at the edge of her words, which makes me snicker every time. I do like that she's reasonable about merging the Krogan colony to the Nexus (even though I'm half expecting that to blow up in Ryder's face). Maybe I was expecting something like when Grunt bodyslammed Shepard into the wall sort of fighting. It's awkward, but more of a symptom of Andromeda's unpolished state. Makes me really want more attention to be given to a sequel. I agree about unpolished and that more attention needs to be given to the sequel.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 13, 2019 3:36:02 GMT
I liked Morda. I thought she was done well. I dont let the fight scene bother me. I wish I could say the same, but I keep hearing a lisp at the edge of her words, which makes me snicker every time. I do like that she's reasonable about merging the Krogan colony to the Nexus (even though I'm half expecting that to blow up in Ryder's face). Maybe I was expecting something like when Grunt bodyslammed Shepard into the wall sort of fighting. It's awkward, but more of a symptom of Andromeda's unpolished state. Makes me really want more attention to be given to a sequel. To be fair, the Grunt attacking Shepard scene had some unpolished parts as well. Like how Grunt supposedly has Shepard pinned by the neck with his arm yet the arm is like a foot away from Shepard.
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Post by opuspace on Mar 13, 2019 3:42:50 GMT
I wish I could say the same, but I keep hearing a lisp at the edge of her words, which makes me snicker every time. I do like that she's reasonable about merging the Krogan colony to the Nexus (even though I'm half expecting that to blow up in Ryder's face). Maybe I was expecting something like when Grunt bodyslammed Shepard into the wall sort of fighting. It's awkward, but more of a symptom of Andromeda's unpolished state. Makes me really want more attention to be given to a sequel. To be fair, the Grunt attacking Shepard scene had some unpolished parts as well. Like how Grunt supposedly has Shepard pinned by the neck with his arm yet the arm is like a foot away from Shepard. True, but at least Grunt didn't make me giggle at the scene. And while I'm talking about what I'd like to see, I'd like side missions to be less multiplayer-ish. Go kill those group of enemies. Scan this. Go kill another group of enemies. Scan that. Go squat in that loading zone. Kill enemies while waiting. It was refreshing to come across a merc group on Elaaden that actually tried talking to Ryder and asking for a chance to avoid a fight. Barrett actually made me really think over the decisions in confiscating those weapons at that base long after leaving the planet.
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Post by cloud9 on Mar 23, 2019 4:33:04 GMT
BioWare might as well just stop making games until they stop being so stupid. This is disappointing.
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Post by The Arbiter on Apr 8, 2019 17:07:35 GMT
The Future of MassEffect and the cancer that BioWare has turned into? also the constant denial of most "fans" which lead to this crap show? Oh for the love of.... If you dont like the current Bioware fine but dont assume we all feel that way. I just came back from my hiatus. I've read current reports about ANTHEM. Do you still feel right about BioWare?
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Post by The Arbiter on Apr 8, 2019 17:10:45 GMT
I don't see why folks are going in on the OP...he's just giving his opinion on why he thinks the next game will bomb...given what we've seen in Andromeda, it's not ridiculous to think that it might happen. The overall writing and character development is what hurt Andromeda....even with the animation and glitches, Andromeda's issues was with it's core elements...Story and characters. And lets not forget the agenda inclusive writing...they had to delete a scene that had a character talking about how they was a transgender.... ....Making Jaal BI....the character of Morda (feminist)....which goes against the very lore of female Krogans....SAM being able to solve every roadblock in the game...if it wasn't for SAM for over several scenarios the game would have ended in the first hour or so.....bland writing...Cora's conversation branches are used up, before you're even through half way through the game....SAM open this door....SAM do this....Ryder couldn't do ANYTHING without SAM (It held his/her hand throughout the entire game)...where was the growth seen throughout the game from Ryder?.... And he did happen to do something without SAM towards the end there, but LOL.....the game doesn't really tell you how he does that...good `ol Space Magic i guess... So yeah, i would be a bit skeptical too if i wondered if there was any hope of a good Mass Effect game coming down the pike given what we seen in Andromeda.....regardless of how some folks enjoyed Andromeda, overall the game bombed and another game like Andromeda will tank the series for good. Don't treat characters like they are needed for some sort of checkoff list to make certain groups happy....I liked Kaiden and Jack.....they was written wonderfully and didn't feel forced or like they was written to please folks.....what was seen in Andromeda was just juvenile and embarrassing. I'm not sure if Bioware still has that magical talent to write a great story and characters first as opposed to making sure certain types of characters are in the game.....just make a game with a great story and characters and everything else will fall into place. What i have seen from Anthem, is that overall the story and characters seem to be better than what was seen in Andromeda and that is saying alot being that the game is focusing on looter aspects first and its story elements 2nd. I think a story can be told in Andromeda, (there are still mysteries and questions unanswered) but only if Bioware can stop the madness and tighten up their writing/ character and narratives aspects.... 1) Perhaps it has something to do with his continually saying we fans of Bioware are "in denial." 2) Perhaps it has something to do with the nearly daily Youtube releases re-analyzing Bioware games, largely in the negative... and we're just plain tired of the "extreme" nature of such criticism. 3) Perhaps it has something to do with the next ME game likely being at least 6 years away from release... making such speculation about the state of that game, the state of Bioware as a company, and indeed the state of the industry... absolutely pointless. (BTW, that was the facetious point of my earlier post... to illustrate how ridiculous it is to go on about something in such a negative sense that is likely NOT to occur for years into the future. Heck, at the rate of tech advancement I've seen in my lifetime alone... videogames as we know them today may not even exist 6 or 7 years from now.
... and I have an equal "right" to just state my opinion... which is that, it's not any of the devs or publishers that are a "cancer" on this Industry... It's ultimately all the clickbait Youtubers who try to get clicks by sensationalizing and re-sentationalizing every little negative they can latch onto and inundating the internet with it making it seem like a "majority" of fans are of a particular viewpoint... When the fact of the matter is that the majority of fans just buy and play whatever variety of games they want and can affort... and are completely silent because they don't participate on Youtube or on any forums.
1. Perhaps you guys are indeed in DENIAL 2. Because they are TRUE 3. Oh it is closer than you think
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 8, 2019 17:39:34 GMT
Oh for the love of.... If you dont like the current Bioware fine but dont assume we all feel that way. I just came back from my hiatus. I've read current reports about ANTHEM. Do you still feel right about BioWare? Careful now, or old Grif Grif may just get.... i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/111/587/8fc.gif
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