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Post by acehilator on Mar 6, 2019 19:49:16 GMT
Also it's not one level 1 weapon, it's all level 1 weapons AND all level 1 gear. At least for gear some of the insriptions/MW bonuses seem to be working.
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 6, 2019 19:50:41 GMT
Because it literally does more damage than the high level gear. It's not moot at all, are you just being purposefully dense? It has no useful inscriptions and adds nothing to your build. I don't think I'm being dense. This news is just more overblown bullshit to whine about, an outrage over nothing. If people are dumb enough to play the game with level 1 weapons for 6 days until it's patched, they can help themselves. Meanwhile in the rational world, this appears to have zero impact.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Mar 6, 2019 19:51:14 GMT
Why would you use a level 1 weapon if it's bugged? If this is technically true, it's still moot. Who's going to play with level 1 weapons? the same people who used the tungsten rounds VII in ME1 because they did more damage than the X mods Duh....
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Post by bigbad on Mar 6, 2019 19:53:39 GMT
Because it literally does more damage than the high level gear. It's not moot at all, are you just being purposefully dense? It has no useful inscriptions and adds nothing to your build. I don't think I'm being dense. This news is just more overblown bullshit to whine about, an outrage over nothing. If people are dumb enough to play the game with level 1 weapons for 6 days until it's patched, they can help themselves. Meanwhile in the rational world, this appears to have zero impact. Anthem is never wrong. It can only be wronged!
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Post by lennybusker on Mar 6, 2019 19:54:26 GMT
Because it literally does more damage than the high level gear. It's not moot at all, are you just being purposefully dense? It has no useful inscriptions and adds nothing to your build. I don't think I'm being dense. This news is just more overblown bullshit to whine about, an outrage over nothing. If people are dumb enough to play the game with level 1 weapons for 6 days until it's patched, they can help themselves. Meanwhile in the rational world, this appears to have zero impact. Ok, so you're revealing that you haven't actually watched any of the video clips then, right? streamable.com/1tkauYou don't need useful inscriptions if it's going to OUTDAMAGE YOUR HIGH LEVEL WEAPONS. The first gun I'm using in that clip is the level 1. The second is the epic level 36. The level 1 gun is BETTER than my high level gun (not even mentioning the absolute uselessness of the damage numbers!). This is "zero impact" to you?
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 6, 2019 20:04:25 GMT
This is "zero impact" to you? Yes, zero impact because I won't be equipping L1 weapons. Why should I? This is clearly not meant to work this way, so like the chest exploit and other exploits, all it does is 'break' the game by the player's own choice, who will doubtless be back whining next week that they have all the things. I'll be continuing to play and enjoy the game as intended.
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Post by bshep on Mar 6, 2019 20:12:58 GMT
Because it literally does more damage than the high level gear. It's not moot at all, are you just being purposefully dense? It has no useful inscriptions and adds nothing to your build. I don't think I'm being dense. This news is just more overblown bullshit to whine about, an outrage over nothing. If people are dumb enough to play the game with level 1 weapons for 6 days until it's patched, they can help themselves. Meanwhile in the rational world, this appears to have zero impact. Meanwhile devs are already aware of it and it will probably be fixed soon, maybe even in the next patch. But no let's just keep complaining for the sake of complaining.
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Post by Kenny Bania on Mar 6, 2019 20:13:05 GMT
This is "zero impact" to you? Yes, zero impact because I won't be equipping L1 weapons. Why should I? This is clearly not meant to work this way, so like the chest exploit and other exploits, all it does is 'break' the game by the player's own choice, who will doubtless be back whining next week that they have all the things. I'll be continuing to play and enjoy the game as intended. Never change.
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Post by 3y3vr3 on Mar 6, 2019 20:14:43 GMT
But it would only work if the level 1 weapons/ gears were the sole source of this bug? If the root cause of the problem is over aggressively scaling then simply restricting access to low level equipments would be just a band-aid fix and the loot progression system would be still screwed.
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Post by lennybusker on Mar 6, 2019 20:16:48 GMT
But it would only work if the level 1 weapons/ gears were the sole source of this bug? If the root cause of the problem is over aggressively scaling then simply restricting access to low level equipments would be just a band-aid fix and the loot progression system would be still screwed. Yeah, that's my point. Scaling issues with less than level 30 gear can't affect you if you can only ever wear level 30 gear. pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/selectall/2017/02/09/09-roll-safe.w700.h700.jpg
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Post by aznricepuff on Mar 6, 2019 20:24:15 GMT
Scaling issues with less than level 30 gear can't affect you if you can only ever wear level 30 gear. Based on one of the comments in the reddit thread (gear score 45 MW deals less effective damage than gear score 36 epic, both level 30), it seems that the overly aggressive scaling applies to gear score and not gear level. So restricting items by level won't fix this entirely. They need to adjust the scaling factor. And preferably also tie scaling to gear level and not gear score (so moving from common -> uncommon -> rare -> etc within the same gear level does not trigger scaling).
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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 6, 2019 20:30:11 GMT
Weren't we complaining that weapons don't do enough dmg for GM2 & 3 and now that we have said weapons we're complaining because...
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Post by Kenny Bania on Mar 6, 2019 20:31:08 GMT
Wow and that one bug in MEA which tied MP difficulty to SP difficulty was not so phenomenal now compared to this one... I'm still torn over which bug was more embarrassing. I'm leaning towards this one.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 6, 2019 20:32:09 GMT
This is "zero impact" to you? Yes, zero impact because I won't be equipping L1 weapons. Why should I? This is clearly not meant to work this way, so like the chest exploit and other exploits, all it does is 'break' the game by the player's own choice, who will doubtless be back whining next week that they have all the things. I'll be continuing to play and enjoy the game as intended. I guess the question them becomes what is the scaling actually supposed to do? Holmes said that the point of it was to keep low-level players competitive in mixed groups. How should this work? How does it work in other games?
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Post by 3y3vr3 on Mar 6, 2019 20:37:22 GMT
Weren't we complaining that weapons don't do enough dmg for GM2 & 3 and now that we have said weapons we're complaining because... Because as a looter shooter game, this problem completely renders looting and min maxing your build pointless since you already have the most powerful gears by default?
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Post by Mobius Y on Mar 6, 2019 20:40:39 GMT
Weren't we complaining that weapons don't do enough dmg for GM2 & 3 and now that we have said weapons we're complaining because... Because gamers gotta complain, bruh, we never happy.
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Post by acehilator on Mar 6, 2019 20:47:13 GMT
Weren't we complaining that weapons don't do enough dmg for GM2 & 3 and now that we have said weapons we're complaining because... You didn't just really post this, did you?
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Post by Gileadan on Mar 6, 2019 20:47:48 GMT
Man, why spend 60€ if I can get all the entertainment the game is capable of right here?
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 6, 2019 20:56:41 GMT
(checks inventory)
Looks like a hot-fix has already resolved it.
Just me?
Could have sworn I had a L1, but it seems a 30 now.
Don't worry, I still have one.
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Post by 3y3vr3 on Mar 6, 2019 21:03:49 GMT
Wow and that one bug in MEA which tied MP difficulty to SP difficulty was not so phenomenal now compared to this one... I'm still torn over which bug was more embarrassing. I'm leaning towards this one. Iirc the MEA bug was an accidental error made absentmindedly. This one however, seems like to be a more fundamental design flaw which hasn’t been given enough thoughts and tested on...
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Post by Abramsrunner on Mar 6, 2019 21:07:12 GMT
And I thought the Avenger was deadly on fullauto.
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Post by Blast Processor on Mar 6, 2019 21:13:53 GMT
Man, why spend 60€ if I can get all the entertainment the game is capable of right here? Hey pal, its 59.99. Here we go, another doomsayer exaggerating.
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