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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 6, 2019 21:15:24 GMT
Weren't we complaining that weapons don't do enough dmg for GM2 & 3 and now that we have said weapons we're complaining because... Because as a looter shooter game, this problem completely renders looting and min maxing your build pointless since you already have the most powerful gears by default? Of course this is only going to be a temp exploit. And not like it's all that game breaking either, tested the Cloudburst 1 on GM1 freeplay and while it may do more dmg then my Endless Siege, it runs out of ammo fast. So not sure how it will do GM2 where running out ammo is already an issue. Going to try the Assualt Rifle next, see how my ammo issue with it and Cloudburst will do. Then maybe hit GM2.
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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 6, 2019 21:16:09 GMT
Weren't we complaining that weapons don't do enough dmg for GM2 & 3 and now that we have said weapons we're complaining because... You didn't just really post this, did you?
Have you even tried it?
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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 6, 2019 21:23:19 GMT
So much for being able to pair them. Can't seem to be able to bring these default level 1 weapons to other Javelins.
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Post by mugwump on Mar 6, 2019 21:45:53 GMT
Comedy gold.
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Post by acehilator on Mar 6, 2019 22:23:56 GMT
Sure. Survivabilty is the issue in GM2/3, and missing the passive stats from several gear pieces. Damage is still way higher than it should be, but the insane HP scaling counteracts the buggy weapon scaling so that it's not really worth it. But you can still kill stuff, which should be impossible for all intents and purposes.
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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 6, 2019 22:25:21 GMT
Sure. Survivabilty is the issue in GM2/3, and missing the passive stats from several gear pieces. Damage is still way higher than it should be, but the insane HP scaling counteracts the buggy weapon scaling so that it's not really worth it. But you can still kill stuff, which should be impossible for all intents and purposes. Did you just go try it now for the first time?
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Post by acehilator on Mar 6, 2019 22:26:12 GMT
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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 6, 2019 22:39:43 GMT
Why so eager to share your experiences with said weapons?
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 6, 2019 22:41:07 GMT
That might fuck it up even more when you carefully collected your items to make a build and use a range of stuff that isn't lvl 30 but has actually useful inscriptions rolled for a build. I'd throw a fit if my stuff became useless over night.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 6, 2019 23:26:07 GMT
Why so eager to share your experiences with said weapons? Why so eager to ask why and cast aspersion? Why so eager to defend this game? You like it, you don't have to marry it. Why so eager to dismiss that post, making it seem like they are doing something weird by personally verifying the claim at hand? Why so eager to keep trolling? Why?
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Post by officerdonnz on Mar 6, 2019 23:36:00 GMT
Why so eager to share your experiences with said weapons? Why so eager to ask why and cast aspersion? Why so eager to defend this game? You like it, you don't have to marry it. Why so eager to dismiss that post, making it seem like they are doing something weird by personally verifying the claim at hand? Why so eager to keep trolling? Why? This made me smile. God knows why but it did.
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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 6, 2019 23:37:47 GMT
Why so eager to share your experiences with said weapons? Why so eager to ask why and cast aspersion? Why so eager to defend this game? You like it, you don't have to marry it. Why so eager to dismiss that post, making it seem like they are doing something weird by personally verifying the claim at hand? Why so eager to keep trolling? Why? Better to share your own personal experiences with said weapons then parrot what everyone already assumes they know. My opinion so far trying these weapons this late in the game? As much I'd like these to be the temp Ubermensch weapons they're claimed to be, this don't seem to be the case.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 6, 2019 23:45:35 GMT
Why so eager to ask why and cast aspersion? Why so eager to defend this game? You like it, you don't have to marry it. Why so eager to dismiss that post, making it seem like they are doing something weird by personally verifying the claim at hand? Why so eager to keep trolling? Why? Better to share your own personal experiences with said weapons then parrot what everyone already assumes they know. My opinion so far trying these weapons this late in the game? As much I'd like these to be the temp Ubermensch weapons they're claimed to be, this don't seem to be the case. Yes. Rather than parroting, they tested it. If their experience matched the reports, it isn't parroting but rather a choir. Can you hear the chorus? Or is it a tumor?
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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 7, 2019 0:04:31 GMT
Better to share your own personal experiences with said weapons then parrot what everyone already assumes they know. My opinion so far trying these weapons this late in the game? As much I'd like these to be the temp Ubermensch weapons they're claimed to be, this don't seem to be the case. Yes. Rather than parroting, they tested it. If their experience matched the reports, it isn't parroting but rather a choir. Can you hear the chorus? Or is it a tumor? Don't recall anyone sharing their experiences, if anything simply just confirming the glitch.
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Post by acehilator on Mar 7, 2019 0:16:07 GMT
Video clips of this stuff have been out a few hours after it had been discovered. Not really sure what your paranoia is about.
And if you can't work with these weapons up to and including GM1, the problem is not the weapons.
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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 7, 2019 0:30:33 GMT
Video clips of this stuff have been out a few hours after it had been discovered. Not really sure what your paranoia is about. And if you can't work with these weapons up to and including GM1, the problem is not the weapons. So share your experience interpretation based on what you seen. - Any enjoyment playing these weapons & does enjoyment last; - are these weapons really more viable then what we have; - do these early weapons require much too frequent & long reload times; - what about the ammo consumption; - did it help with that Monitor bullet sponge boss; - how is it on GM1/2/3; - are people really ditching their other weapons in favor of these; etc.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 7, 2019 0:36:54 GMT
Hmmm, not sure how confirming the bug is not sharing an experience?
But, go on and call out logical fallacies left and right like a boss, whilst also committing them obliviously left and right, again like a boss. A terrible boss.
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Post by Sartoz on Mar 7, 2019 0:40:45 GMT
Read through the entire thread and taking everything together it seems like damage scaling is performed solely based on the gear score of the damage source (be it weapon or ability). Having scaling tied to gear score is an odd choice (I would have assumed scaling was based on pilot level) but it still could theoretically work except apparently the scaling is overaggressive. They could fix it either by A) relaxing the scaling or B ) uncoupling scaling from gear score. I prefer B because if I'm level 30 and swap out a gear score 30 common weapon for a gear score 45 masterwork weapon, I (and I'm betting most people) would expect a simple, linear increase in DPS based on how much more damage the masterwork weapon does over the common (before taking into account possible masterwork/inscription bonuses, etc). I certainly wouldn't expect scaling to kick in to negate some or all of the advantage of moving to what is supposed to be an all-around better weapon.
If we assume that QA did their jobs, then mgt made some questionable decisions. The alternative is that there was no QA. ...
Bio did acknowledge there were some balancing issues before/during/after the VIP Demo (can't remember which). Perhaps they only focused on non weapon DPS scaling issues.
One thing, the displayed weapon damage appears to be bogus. The question is from where does the game get the numbers vs the real ones that the damage bar uses?
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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 7, 2019 0:40:49 GMT
Hmmm, not sure how confirming the bug is not sharing an experience? It's 'confirming' a shared experience.
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Post by acehilator on Mar 7, 2019 0:44:50 GMT
If you are playing Ranger or Storm, yes they are viable. Level of improvement depends on your regular weapon, TTK is a bit faster compared to MW/Leg with god-tier rolls, ridiculously faster than epic/trash MW weapons. Reload times are obviously the same, ammmo consumption is less (needing less bullets per enemy). I don't play Heart of Rage, don't care about that BS fight. As I already said, works up to and including GM1. Can't speak for other people.
Stop being obtuse please.
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 7, 2019 0:45:36 GMT
Ben Irving @benirvo Defender fix should be part of March 12th patch also.
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Post by Loffie on Mar 7, 2019 1:21:46 GMT
In before ppl get banned for using lvl 1 gear xD
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Post by theduke on Mar 7, 2019 1:32:13 GMT
Amazing that people actually paid full price to beta test this game for Bioware.
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Post by Heroicmass on Mar 7, 2019 1:42:14 GMT
Imagine the shuriken out dpsing the hurricane back in the day
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Post by bshep on Mar 7, 2019 1:45:16 GMT
Ben Irving @benirvoDefender fix should be part of March 12th patch also. Good. Less nonsense crying.
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