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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 7, 2019 19:20:53 GMT
If you are playing Ranger or Storm, yes they are viable. Level of improvement depends on your regular weapon, TTK is a bit faster compared to MW/Leg with god-tier rolls, ridiculously faster than epic/trash MW weapons. Reload times are obviously the same, ammmo consumption is less (needing less bullets per enemy). I don't play Heart of Rage, don't care about that BS fight. As I already said, works up to and including GM1. Can't speak for other people. Stop being obtuse please. If I've been obtuse, then I apologize.
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Post by aglomeracja on Mar 7, 2019 19:54:07 GMT
Your experience, as mine or anyone else's who haven't tried the glitch are very limited. Watch the videos posted on this thread, particularly on the first page. They clearly show how the damage numbers don't mean anything, such numbers are purely aesthetic. I'm, playing the game. I have no use of a video. My numbers very recently went up a significant amount and the mobs just melted away.
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Post by Abramsrunner on Mar 7, 2019 20:22:01 GMT
That moment when my +400% total damage level 45 Endless Siege that took 12 hours of grinding that barely out DPS a level 1 Cloudburst you get when you boot up the game. 10/10 would grind again.
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Post by spacev3gan on Mar 7, 2019 20:42:22 GMT
Your experience, as mine or anyone else's who haven't tried the glitch are very limited. Watch the videos posted on this thread, particularly on the first page. They clearly show how the damage numbers don't mean anything, such numbers are purely aesthetic. I'm, playing the game. I have no use of a video. My numbers very recently went up a significant amount and the mobs just melted away. Starter Level 1 weapons would melt the mobs even faster, while displaying a smaller number per hit. I'm sorry pal, but choosing not to see the facts does not make them untrue.
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Post by Mobius Y on Mar 7, 2019 20:56:23 GMT
Fallout 76 is as broken if not more. Still can be fun for people for both games. Which does not excuse poor quality. Though outside some stupid fraud I give Bethesda more of a pass as their marketing was more of a hey this is a experiment for us. So my expectations were far less. Uh, I’m pretty sure their marketing was, “it just works!” Unless that wasn’t Todd Howard?
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Post by spacev3gan on Mar 7, 2019 20:56:56 GMT
Then name a Western developed game you hold in high regard. Lol, are you playing a game with me, like I name a game and you will tell how it is just as broken as Anthem? If that is your desperate attempt on defending Anthem whatever it takes, I am sorry, but that is just miserable. But well, answering your question anyway, the most recently developed game that I hold in the very highest of regards is Titanfall 2. Good luck on telling me how that game is just as broken as Anthem.
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Post by correctamundo on Mar 7, 2019 20:57:40 GMT
I'm, playing the game. I have no use of a video. My numbers very recently went up a significant amount and the mobs just melted away. Starter Level 1 weapons would melt the mobs even faster, while displaying a smaller number per hit. I'm sorry pal, but choosing not to see the facts does not make them untrue. Note, report, patch, move on.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Mar 7, 2019 21:03:30 GMT
Starter Level 1 weapons would melt the mobs even faster, while displaying a smaller number per hit. I'm sorry pal, but choosing not to see the facts does not make them untrue. Note, report, patch, move on. sure But you move on when it is patched, not before And that is still not acceptable after six years, the delivery of an MVP and the staggering level of brokenness of this product
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Post by river82 on Mar 7, 2019 21:11:27 GMT
Though outside some stupid fraud I give Bethesda more of a pass as their marketing was more of a hey this is a experiment for us. So my expectations were far less. People being more likely to give Fallout 76 a pass definitely shows in Fallout 76's Metacritic score, which has a user score of 2.5 and a critic score of 5.2
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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 7, 2019 21:17:32 GMT
Then name a Western developed game you hold in high regard. Lol, are you playing a game with me, like I name a game and you will tell how it is just as broken as Anthem? If that is your desperate attempt on defending Anthem whatever it takes, I am sorry, but that is just miserable. But well, answering your question anyway, the most recently developed game that I hold in the very highest of regards is Titanfall 2. Good luck on telling me how that game is just as broken as Anthem. How broken is matter of perspective, or how they say, eye of the beholder. All I need to ask is does said game have patch notes with bug fixes?
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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 7, 2019 21:20:14 GMT
Note, report, patch, move on. sure But you move on when it is patched, not before And that is still not acceptable after six years, the delivery of an MVP and the staggering level of brokenness of this product Why, said level 1 weapon bug is not affecting me, is it affecting you?
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Post by spacev3gan on Mar 7, 2019 21:56:48 GMT
How broken is matter of perspective, or how they say, eye of the beholder. All I need to ask is does said game have patch notes with bug fixes? Are you going to tell me that a game is broken based on their patch notes? That sounds like some serious desperation. But answering your question, off course it does. Patches were 80-90% related to gameplay (buffs and nerfs) or in-game economy, but there were something here and there related to bugs. Now if you don't even know the game, never played, why does it matter? Are you gonna evaluate how broken a game you are not familiar with is? I am sorry, but this is becoming silly. Btw, I have 200+ hours of Titanfall 2 on a very high ping (~200ms). Never experience any bugs myself, never lost connection, never crashed, never lost my sound, never teleported nor seen other players teleporting, never had stutters nor sudden drops in framerate, never seen artifacts on the screen, etc, you name it. I normally see more bugs in a 3-hour session of any given Bioware game than in my entire playtime in Titanfall 2. So yeah, you're telling me that "Anthem doesn't seem to be more broken than other games", again I am sorry, but it is kinda silly. Anthem is one of the most broken games released recently. Let's be fair, Anthem most likely is not as broken as Fallout 76, although being compared to Fallout 76 is already embarrassing enough. If you don't acknowledge nor is aware that about the issues Anthem has, then you are inside a bubble.
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Post by shinobiwan on Mar 7, 2019 22:00:00 GMT
Then name a Western developed game you hold in high regard. Lol, are you playing a game with me, like I name a game and you will tell how it is just as broken as Anthem? If that is your desperate attempt on defending Anthem whatever it takes, I am sorry, but that is just miserable. But well, answering your question anyway, the most recently developed game that I hold in the very highest of regards is Titanfall 2. Good luck on telling me how that game is just as broken as Anthem. i can't find the super like button.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 7, 2019 22:00:05 GMT
Though outside some stupid fraud I give Bethesda more of a pass as their marketing was more of a hey this is a experiment for us. So my expectations were far less. People being more likely to give Fallout 76 a pass definitely shows in Fallout 76's Metacritic score, which has a user score of 2.5 and a critic score of 5.2 How you rate something might be different than how you feel about a situation. I’ve played fallout 76 and wouldn’t rate it a 2. That being said my score would be less than I feel about the situation as my score is more me trying to objectively measure its quality.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 7, 2019 22:13:02 GMT
Fallout 76 is as broken if not more. Still can be fun for people for both games. Which does not excuse poor quality. Though outside some stupid fraud I give Bethesda more of a pass as their marketing was more of a hey this is a experiment for us. So my expectations were far less. Uh, I’m pretty sure their marketing was, “it just works!” Unless that wasn’t Todd Howard? That was for fallout 4. They marketed fallout 76 but I think they did a decent job of curbing expectations given the need to market and hype a product. We knew no npcs before the game launched for example. It was a buggy mess at launch and has seen not nearly as much improvement as it should. But when it’s working it’s pretty much what I expect it to be. A looter shooter with no diversity in guns, limited visual customization, limited end game content with additional end game content months out isn’t my expectation for a looter shooter. So while I may rate it worse as the bugs for many made it unplayable I’d be less disappointed in it because it seems to achieve what I was expecting when working. It’s working a lot less often than anthem though.
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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 7, 2019 22:22:12 GMT
How broken is matter of perspective, or how they say, eye of the beholder. All I need to ask is does said game have patch notes with bug fixes? Are you going to tell me that a game is broken based on their patch notes? That sounds like some serious desperation. But answering your question, off course it does. Patches were 80-90% related to gameplay (buffs and nerfs) or in-game economy, but there were something here and there related to bugs. Now if you don't even know the game, never played, why does it matter? Are you gonna evaluate how broken a game you are not familiar with is? I am sorry, but this is becoming silly. Btw, I have 200+ hours of Titanfall 2 on a very high ping (~200ms). Never experience any bugs myself, never lost connection, never crashed, never lost my sound, never teleported nor seen other players teleporting, never had stutters nor sudden drops in framerate, never seen artifacts on the screen, etc, you name it. I normally see more bugs in a 3-hour session of any given Bioware game than in my entire playtime in Titanfall 2. So yeah, you're telling me that "Anthem doesn't seem to be more broken than other games", again I am sorry, but it is kinda silly. Anthem is one of the most broken games released recently. Let's be fair, Anthem most likely is not as broken as Fallout 76, although being compared to Fallout 76 is already embarrassing enough. If you don't acknowledge nor is aware that about the issues Anthem has, then you are inside a bubble. That does sound ace, however googling Titanfall 2 exploit does yield results. Including a weapon doing more dmg exploit since it's relevant to this topic.
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Post by Abramsrunner on Mar 7, 2019 22:51:51 GMT
That post is from 2016, back when Amp weapons lasted until death, the amped DMR would 1 shot pilots, & the Devotion would melt titans. Charge rifle with the Charge Hack mod back then would fire instantly but it would lose the ability to 1 shot pilots, the more damage part is only half true as the DPS increase would only apply to Titans, & Reapers, but you would lose the cross map laser sniper to kill pilots with. Nowadays the charge hack mod doesn't fire instantly it has a quick rev that's like 1 second, & doing the quick swap today gives a minor DPS increase for a massive increase in exposing ones self to titans. A weapon swap exploit with a massive trade off cannot be compared to a possibility of a whole hidden scaling system which makes any damage stats you have utterly useless.
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Post by Mobius Y on Mar 7, 2019 23:04:54 GMT
Uh, I’m pretty sure their marketing was, “it just works!” Unless that wasn’t Todd Howard? That was for fallout 4. Oh yeah my bad. For Fallout 76 he clarified “it doesn’t “just work””.
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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 7, 2019 23:05:38 GMT
That post is from 2016, back when Amp weapons lasted until death, the amped DMR would 1 shot pilots, & the Devotion would melt titans. Charge rifle with the Charge Hack mod back then would fire instantly but it would lose the ability to 1 shot pilots, the more damage part is only half true as the DPS increase would only apply to Titans, & Reapers, but you would lose the cross map laser sniper to kill pilots with. Nowadays the charge hack mod doesn't fire instantly it has a quick rev that's like 1 second, & doing the quick swap today gives a minor DPS increase for a massive increase in exposing ones self to titans. A weapon swap exploit with a massive trade off cannot be compared to a possibility of a whole hidden scaling system which makes any damage stats you have utterly useless. Like I've said, eye of the beholder. Myself haven't messed around with these glitched weapons since yesterday, got more enjoyable weapons in my arsenal and when playing with other players am not noticing anyone using these weapons (not that I'd care or notice if they did). So it's as if this bug doesn't exist.
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Post by spacev3gan on Mar 7, 2019 23:26:06 GMT
The "exploit" posted there interestingly has zero replies. Have you seen the videos shown on google when searching for "Titanfall 2 exploit"? One has 2k views, the other has 140 and the other has 11 views. Exploits were minimal, they never caught the community. There were virtually zero advantage to be gained from them, just trade offs. I was on reddit day and night on my heydays in the game, as well as part of the "reddit clan". I don't recall ever seen something big about an exploit. Regardless, you are free to watch the reviews on Titanfall 2, gamers/influencers' opinions, etc, then notice yourself how often you will hear words like "unfinished", "not ready", "broken", "needs fixing/patching" and compare that to Anthem's. Also, see the scores that game gets and compare them to Anthem. In all honesty, you trying to dig issues on another game to justify Anthem being broken is one of the most childish things I've seen on this part of BSN lately.
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Post by spacev3gan on Mar 7, 2019 23:42:05 GMT
Like I've said, eye of the beholder. Myself haven't messed around with these glitched weapons since yesterday, got more enjoyable weapons in my arsenal and when playing with other players am not noticing anyone using these weapons (not that I'd care or notice if they did). So it's as if this bug doesn't exist. The issue regarding the bug in question is not merely about the individual experience of players, let alone those turning a blind eye to the problem and to an extent gimping themselves at this point for not using Level 1 weapons (which is a perfectly justifiable personal choice and one which, if I enjoyed the game and were playing at this point, might have chosen to make, too). The real issue is about how broken the game is, and even how it was when it got released, put on the shelves and sold at full price. How something as close to the core progression of the game such as this bug existed fully unnoticed until now, even after the supposed 6-year-long development. Even the utterly broken damage numbers displayed on the screen went unnoticed during the 6 years of development. Anthem got released at a state that is not acceptable by anyone other than, by and large, the fanboys. That, my fellow BSNer, is the real problem regarding this bug.
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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 7, 2019 23:52:19 GMT
The "exploit" posted there interestingly has zero replies. Have you seen the videos shown on google when searching for "Titanfall 2 exploit"? One has 2k views, the other has 140 and the other has 11 views. Exploits were minimal, they never caught the community. There were virtually zero advantage to be gained from them, just trade offs. I was on reddit day and night on my heydays in the game, as well as part of the "reddit clan". I don't recall ever seen something big about an exploit. Regardless, you are free to watch the reviews on Titanfall 2, gamers/influencers' opinions, etc, then notice yourself how often you will hear words like "unfinished", "not ready", "broken", "needs fixing/patching" and compare that to Anthem's. Also, see the scores that game gets and compare them to Anthem. In all honesty, you trying to dig issues on another game to justify Anthem being broken is one of the most childish things I've seen on this part of BSN lately. And what's the advantage of playing these Anthem glitched weapons? Because I see none and would have been better not even trying them out yesterday and just doing my own thing as if never heard of it.
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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 7, 2019 23:53:25 GMT
Like I've said, eye of the beholder. Myself haven't messed around with these glitched weapons since yesterday, got more enjoyable weapons in my arsenal and when playing with other players am not noticing anyone using these weapons (not that I'd care or notice if they did). So it's as if this bug doesn't exist. The issue regarding the bug in question is not merely about the individual experience of players, let alone those turning a blind eye to the problem and to an extent gimping themselves at this point for not using Level 1 weapons (which is a perfectly justifiable personal choice and one which, if I enjoyed the game and were playing at this point, might have chosen to make, too). The real issue is about how broken the game is, and even how it was when it got released, put on the shelves and sold at full price. How something as close to the core progression of the game such as this bug existed fully unnoticed until now, even after the supposed 6-year-long development. Even the utterly broken damage numbers displayed on the screen went unnoticed during the 6 years of development. Anthem got released at a state that is not acceptable by anyone other than, by and large, the fanboys. That, my fellow BSNer, is the real problem regarding this bug. So now we're moving on from the weapon issue onto something else. No thanks.
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Post by spacev3gan on Mar 8, 2019 0:02:35 GMT
And what's the advantage of playing these Anthem glitched weapons? Because I see none and would have been better not even trying them out yesterday and just doing my own thing as if never heard of it. The advantage? Massive damage, far superior to anything put out by Legendary/Masterwork weapons, to a point that farming for those is pointless right now. And again, you are turning a blind eye to the problem, fair enough, it is your choice. But that doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist. So now we're moving on from the weapon issue onto something else. No thanks. Absolutely. It was never about the broken damage of the Level 1 weapons, buddy. If you thought it was, you missed the whole point. It has always been about the quality of the game. The quality of a 6-year-development full priced Bioware game which has already received a massive patch and it is still broken.
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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 8, 2019 0:11:37 GMT
And what's the advantage of playing these Anthem glitched weapons? Because I see none and would have been better not even trying them out yesterday and just doing my own thing as if never heard of it. The advantage? Massive damage, far superior to anything put out by Legendary/Masterwork weapons, to a point that farming for those is pointless right now. And again, you are turning a blind eye to the problem, fair enough, it is your choice. But that doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist. So now we're moving on from the weapon issue onto something else. No thanks. Absolutely. It was never about the broken damage of the Level 1 weapons, buddy. If you thought it was, you missed the whole point. It has always been about the quality of the game. The quality of a 6-year-development full priced Bioware game which has already received a massive patch and it is still broken. Massive dmg, really? Was able to 2 clip a Ursix with that level 1 autocanon, arpox half heath dps each clip. Meanwhile almost 1 clipped him with my Endless autocanon (and should be able to now since a better bonus stat variant dropped). So if I can one clip that Ursix, then better dps goes to my Endless Siege (not to mention one is actually fun to wield, the other not, in my opinion).
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