Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Deleted
inherit
guest@proboards.com
10036
0
Apr 24, 2024 23:23:43 GMT
Deleted
0
Apr 24, 2024 23:23:43 GMT
January 1970
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 17:31:35 GMT
Nothing is requiring you to trust the management of the company... but the consequence of that is that you can no longer say you're a fan of the company. That is an utterly ridiculous notion. How about no? How is this even a criteria? As an outsider, you have no choice at this point but to let them steer their own company Well, I mean, it's not like they haven't asked for player feedback before. I'm arguing that together, we can offer better feedback than I can alone. You have no actual say it what their management does or doesn't do. You have no business setting yourself up as representative of the staff either That's not ... I'm not posing as a union representative, or an EA exec. But we've been playing video games for a while now. Surely we can offer a single good idea. It's between management and staff to work out their own issues (whatever they are). Last I heard, Casey was working hard on it. So far been hearing good words, but some people are still pretty reserved. I sincerely hope Casey will turn things around. If you've pitched your idea ot them, that's all you can reasonably do. Arguing with me does nothing positive. But I love arguing with you. Then let Casey work on it.
I don't particularly like arguing with you. End discussion.
|
|
inherit
1227
0
Apr 24, 2024 23:07:00 GMT
3,662
Phantom
2,657
August 2016
deathscepter
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, KOTOR, Jade Empire
|
Post by Phantom on Jul 12, 2019 18:38:56 GMT
For example, If Bioware takes my Cerberus Phantom idea, He is the type of Phantom that would make fun of Flashier martial artists and he has the skill as a martial artist to lay their asses out. Well, Dutch is a cool guy, so I'm okay with that. I am most certainly down of a over the top, memorable characters. Like Konstantin Brayko from Alpha Protocol, but without the cocaine addiction. As for my Reaper Drell idea is to a nightmare to the players that camp in the same spot while dealing with the Asari/Hanar Reaper husk, Krogan Reaper Husk and the Vorcha Reaper Husk. Sneak attacking? True That Reaper Drell is a Sneak Attack Expert. My Intentions with Dutch is to become a greater Hate Sink than Kai Leng ever hopes to be. Everyone but the Black Talons and the Reaper geniunely hates his guts. Cerberus hates him and too violent and too extreme even for them. I would re make Cerberus into a more effective organization with a darker shade of grey. One of the scientists that Cerberus was task in "firing" the Scientists that worked in Pragia Station. Yes his methods of firing is a reference to ME1 side missions ranging feeding a scientist to a group of hungry rachni and another plunged into Pool of Acid. Yeah Dr Godiva is a sadist that many players will have mixed feelings on but respect him for his keen intellect. Dr Godiva has taken issues of forcing children for test experiments but he prefers having Willing Adults as test subjects and his methods are effective over sadism when he runs his human trials and Dr Godiva personally recruiting the PC for the Project:Phantom after a terrorist attack on the Citadel. Dutch is almost 7'0 tall and highly muscular and having a combat skills of a Well N7 Marine and a covert member of the Black Talons and feeding the Black Talons on the System Alliance Movements; by becoming a member of the Black Talons, he works for the Reapers. Black Talons are an organization like Collectors that indirectly works for the Reapers and often helps the Collectors with locating whatever the Collector needs.
|
|
inherit
2044
0
Nov 10, 2016 16:47:07 GMT
10,080
AnDromedary
4,376
Nov 10, 2016 16:30:09 GMT
November 2016
andromedary
|
Post by AnDromedary on Jul 12, 2019 20:32:14 GMT
I'm arguing that together, we can offer better feedback than I can alone. I'd say that herein lies the major problem. We cannot offer feedback together because - as your discussion with UpUp has clearly shown - we all have different preferences in the feedback we would give, sometimes to the point where we all argue for opposing ideas. You love ME2 and hate ME3, I love ME1 and have fairly specific issues with the other games, ME2 and ME:A above all. UpUp likes where ME:A went and mentions a lot of issues he has with ME1.
We also all have very different ideas of where the franchise should go. If I am honest, I read your idea for the coop shooter game and I hate it. You don't seem to like the idea of an Andromeda 2, that tries to improve upon the weaknesses of the last one but still keeps far away from the Milky Way.
Other forum users like lakus, Unicephalon, Phantom and everyone else here have probably yet other ideas and may disagree with ours in different aspects. Sure, we can (and should) mention and discuss all of this here (that's what these boards are for after all). Maybe there is even the odd BW employee around from time to time to read some of it. However, which way should they then go? I don't necessarily consider my preferences and opinions more valuable or valid than yours or yours than mine. It mainly comes down to personal taste and preference.
Therefore, BW will do what they will do and unless they themselves agree with one of us (which I'd argue would probably be more chance than anything) or unless they conduct some research from their end to get some sort of popular vote on some ideas, they will do as they please. Therefore, I do agree with UpUp that it would be prudent to take a step back and curb our own expectations for the specifics of a future ME and just keep an open mind.
For myself, I'd just like to see any ME game again. To be blunt, the only reason why I still advocate for BW is because I want to see an ME game before 2030. My guess is that if the studio goes down, the brand will disappear in limbo for quite a while before EA might give it to another studio (and then we'd probably face similar problems as we do now). If that weren't an issue, I'd not be much invested in still seeing the BW name continuing. My emotional investment in the company itself has unfortunately been declining to the point where I just see them as another studio name that I no longer associate with the quality and style that I used to 8-10 years ago. But I do want to see another ME game, even if I no longer expect it to be on the level of the trilogy. At first, I was very disappointed in Andromeda from the viewpoint of what the trilogy was to me. But over time, I realized that on it's own, I find it to be a very fun game still and it's better to have it than not to have it. So I do hope they'll pull through their current issues and make another ME game - and who knows, at least at this point I am in a position where it shouldn't be too difficult for them to positively surprise me - if I keep an open mind.
|
|
inherit
10160
0
Apr 24, 2024 20:19:00 GMT
4,882
burningcherry
1,328
May 18, 2018 21:58:48 GMT
May 2018
burningcherry
Mass Effect Trilogy, Mass Effect Andromeda
burningcherry97
|
Post by burningcherry on Jul 13, 2019 8:17:16 GMT
What's the framework of discussing squad decisions? Do you talk in terms of "deserving" and "stealing" screen time?
ME3 did to the roster exactly what ME2 did: removed everyone from the previous game, with the exceptions of Garrus and Tali because too many people needed to get laid with them.
|
|
inherit
∯ Alien Wizard
729
0
Sept 14, 2023 6:08:41 GMT
9,897
Ieldra
4,771
August 2016
ieldra
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect Andromeda
25190
6519
|
Post by Ieldra on Jul 13, 2019 9:38:07 GMT
What's the framework of discussing squad decisions? Do you talk in terms of "deserving" and "stealing" screen time? ME3 did to the roster exactly what ME2 did: removed everyone from the previous game, with the exceptions of Garrus and Tali because too many people needed to get laid with them. Not priorities I agree with in the first place... but if they made a sequel they should remove *all* of the old guard.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Deleted
inherit
guest@proboards.com
10036
0
Apr 24, 2024 23:23:43 GMT
Deleted
0
Apr 24, 2024 23:23:43 GMT
January 1970
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 11:34:24 GMT
What's the framework of discussing squad decisions? Do you talk in terms of "deserving" and "stealing" screen time? ME3 did to the roster exactly what ME2 did: removed everyone from the previous game, with the exceptions of Garrus and Tali because too many people needed to get laid with them. Not priorities I agree with in the first place... but if they made a sequel they should remove *all* of the old guard.
That's probably not going to please those advocating to bring back the entire ME2 squad though, is it? It seems each of us have different favorites and different squad members we would have prefered to have been able to simply not recruit.
I think ME3 was reasonably fair about it... giving us some back door control as who appeared in ME3. If we really didn't want someone, we could ensure that they died during the first two games. Liara and the VS were the two exceptions and, of course, Shepard needed another two from ME2 in order to survive into ME3 himself/herself.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Deleted
inherit
guest@proboards.com
10036
0
Apr 24, 2024 23:23:43 GMT
Deleted
0
Apr 24, 2024 23:23:43 GMT
January 1970
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 11:37:09 GMT
I'm arguing that together, we can offer better feedback than I can alone. I'd say that herein lies the major problem. We cannot offer feedback together because - as your discussion with UpUp has clearly shown - we all have different preferences in the feedback we would give, sometimes to the point where we all argue for opposing ideas. You love ME2 and hate ME3, I love ME1 and have fairly specific issues with the other games, ME2 and ME:A above all. UpUp likes where ME:A went and mentions a lot of issues he has with ME1.
We also all have very different ideas of where the franchise should go. If I am honest, I read your idea for the coop shooter game and I hate it. You don't seem to like the idea of an Andromeda 2, that tries to improve upon the weaknesses of the last one but still keeps far away from the Milky Way.
Other forum users like lakus, Unicephalon, Phantom and everyone else here have probably yet other ideas and may disagree with ours in different aspects. Sure, we can (and should) mention and discuss all of this here (that's what these boards are for after all). Maybe there is even the odd BW employee around from time to time to read some of it. However, which way should they then go? I don't necessarily consider my preferences and opinions more valuable or valid than yours or yours than mine. It mainly comes down to personal taste and preference.
Therefore, BW will do what they will do and unless they themselves agree with one of us (which I'd argue would probably be more chance than anything) or unless they conduct some research from their end to get some sort of popular vote on some ideas, they will do as they please. Therefore, I do agree with UpUp that it would be prudent to take a step back and curb our own expectations for the specifics of a future ME and just keep an open mind.
For myself, I'd just like to see any ME game again. To be blunt, the only reason why I still advocate for BW is because I want to see an ME game before 2030. My guess is that if the studio goes down, the brand will disappear in limbo for quite a while before EA might give it to another studio (and then we'd probably face similar problems as we do now). If that weren't an issue, I'd not be much invested in still seeing the BW name continuing. My emotional investment in the company itself has unfortunately been declining to the point where I just see them as another studio name that I no longer associate with the quality and style that I used to 8-10 years ago. But I do want to see another ME game, even if I no longer expect it to be on the level of the trilogy. At first, I was very disappointed in Andromeda from the viewpoint of what the trilogy was to me. But over time, I realized that on it's own, I find it to be a very fun game still and it's better to have it than not to have it. So I do hope they'll pull through their current issues and make another ME game - and who knows, at least at this point I am in a position where it shouldn't be too difficult for them to positively surprise me - if I keep an open mind.
Well said.
|
|
inherit
∯ Alien Wizard
729
0
Sept 14, 2023 6:08:41 GMT
9,897
Ieldra
4,771
August 2016
ieldra
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect Andromeda
25190
6519
|
Post by Ieldra on Jul 13, 2019 11:46:02 GMT
Not priorities I agree with in the first place... but if they made a sequel they should remove *all* of the old guard.
That's probably not going to please those advocating to bring back the entire ME2 squad though, is it? It seems each of us have different favorites and different squad members we would have prefered to have been able to simply not recruit.
I think ME3 was reasonably fair about it... giving us some back door control as who appeared in ME3. If we really didn't want someone, we could ensure that they died during the first two games. Liara and the VS were the two exceptions and, of course, Shepard needed another two from ME2 in order to survive into ME3 himself/herself.
There were too many companions in ME2 in the first place, and the option to bring anyone back would raise questions about their deaths. I'd be fine with choosing a canon main ending even if it was one I didn't prefer, but with regard to companions I'd like to pretend that my choices in the trilogy meant something. So, no old characters from the old team. And no Liara either, just because her being so heavily privileged and pushed into my face was one of the most annoying aspects of the trilogy. I'd always resent her being there but not others. So, do away with the old team completely. Oh, and no Shepard either. I'd like to see how the world has gone, but I'd like a story as disconnected to the old one as possible.
|
|
inherit
9459
0
Nov 24, 2021 20:18:46 GMT
5,622
SirSourpuss
7,694
Oct 16, 2017 16:19:07 GMT
October 2017
sirpetrakus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, SWTOR
|
Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 13, 2019 13:13:33 GMT
You love ME2 and hate ME3, I love ME1 and have fairly specific issues with the other games, ME2 and ME:A above all But I am not averse to ME1. I am not even averse to ME:A. But we have to look at what an ME1 part 2 or ME:A2 would bring to the table right now. And it doesn't have to be something I like or want, but it has to be something that will succeed in addressing the points that I've already stated: - Live Service Model
- Bioware public Image
- Market/media Reception
So, to elaborate, it needs to adhere to EA's Live Service model, for monetization, it needs to be something that will help rebuild the trust between the gaming public and Bioware and the gaming media needs to be " shut up", for example not be like Sam from Laymen Gaming and outright laugh at the mere mention of another ME. That right there proves that an Andromeda 2 will receive bad PR from the get go. I had predicted it and lo and behold, it came true. Now, I don't need to say that bad PR is bad. And while and Andromeda 2 could help restore the company's public image, by picking up from Andromeda 1 and addressing its plot points, media reception would absolutely bury it. And that's not good. It will probably end up like Andromeda 1 and perhaps i.e. most likely, Bioware will end up like Maxis, Origin, Westwood, Pandemic, Mythic, Black Hole ... who else am I forgetting? You get the picture. If we want to eventually reach an Andromeda 3, we're going to need something bigger. We also all have very different ideas of where the franchise should go. If I am honest, I read your idea for the coop shooter game and I hate it. I'm open to ideas. Just to clarify, my game isn't co-op only. You can play with an AI teammate and you should be able to switch between the two characters with the press of a button. Unless a mission would limit you to playing one character, while the other is, perhaps, separated from her teammate or simply infiltrating a separate part of the mission map. If that isn't your cup of tea, either, yeah, I'm open to ideas. You don't seem to like the idea of an Andromeda 2, that tries to improve upon the weaknesses of the last one but still keeps far away from the Milky Way. I'm going to say this for the ... I lost count, so I'm gonna exaggerate, for the 100th time, Andromeda 2, right now, is a bad idea, for reasons I've already explained. It's going to get roasted. Absolutely. And that's going to damage the game. Other forum users like lakus, Unicephalon, Phantom and everyone else here have probably yet other ideas and may disagree with ours in different aspects. Sure, we can (and should) mention and discuss all of this here (that's what these boards are for after all). Maybe there is even the odd BW employee around from time to time to read some of it. However, which way should they then go? I don't necessarily consider my preferences and opinions more valuable or valid than yours or yours than mine. It mainly comes down to personal taste and preference. I've already stated above the prerequisites it needs to adhere to. I don't have to like it, it just has to satisfy that criteria. If you disagree with that criteria, that's something that we need to debate seriously. Keep in mind, we can't circumvent the first one, as EA will outright cancel a game and reboot it, in order to accommodate Live Services, rather than release it as is *cough Joplin cough*. Therefore, BW will do what they will do and unless they themselves agree with one of us (which I'd argue would probably be more chance than anything) or unless they conduct some research from their end to get some sort of popular vote on some ideas, they will do as they please. Wasn't there a poll on whether ME "4" should be a prequel or sequel and the community overwhelmingly voted sequel, which led to Andromeda? And the original plan was a "first contact" scenario. So it's not unheard of. Apparently, it gave us something that a lot of people here like. Personally, I didn't care for it, but that doesn't mean people should like it, or want more of it. As I said, we should get an Andromeda 2, for you/those people. And, ideally, a 3 after it. But if you want that, you're going to want Bioware to be there to make it and not go the way of the dodo and an Andromeda 2 doesn't seem to be the best way to go about it. Not right now, at least. Therefore, I do agree with UpUp that it would be prudent to take a step back and curb our own expectations for the specifics of a future ME and just keep an open mind. You can say that to me and everyone else active right now in this forum. But we're talking about millions of (potential) players. You can't throw them something without a hook. Because that gives reason to the media to restart the ME memes for that sweet clickbait money. And that hurts your company, your game's name, you game's development and your employees sanctity of mind. I think people underestimate the amount of damage EA's and Bioware's names have sustained, alongside DICE's, in recent years and the congregated salt towards them. I think that, considering Andromeda's and Anthem's performance, in one way or the other, the days where Bioware could release whatever and think the majority of the gaming community will eat it up, are long gone, if they ever even existed in the first place. The rest of your post is just you personal feelings. I am happy you shared these with us. I think it is very important to express them, so that we can have a better understanding of what angles we should aim for, in order to be able to please the fanbase. I know Hanako Ikezawa would just love to see Kelly, for example and my idea could easily, easily incorporate the previous personal secretary to the Illusive Man in the scenario. Perhaps even have a more active role in the story, playing a part like Brooks, from the Citadel DLC, only not doing the traitor twist. She is a Cerberus operative, after all. That's probably not going to please those advocating to bring back the entire ME2 squad though, is it? I obviously can't quantify it, but it was a big enough complaint in ME3, that I do believe repeating it won't be a good thing. And as stated earlier, repeating past mistakes is not a good thing, especially since, as you pointed out, people tend to be a lot more critical of Bioware these days, over these same mistakes. There were too many companions in ME2 in the first place, and the option to bring anyone back would raise questions about their deaths. I'd be fine with choosing a canon main ending even if it was one I didn't prefer, but with regard to companions I'd like to pretend that my choices in the trilogy meant something. So, no old characters from the old team. And no Liara either, just because her being so heavily privileged and pushed into my face was one of the most annoying aspects of the trilogy. I'd always resent her being there but not others. So, do away with the old team completely. Oh, and no Shepard either. I'd like to see how the world has gone, but I'd like a story as disconnected to the old one as possible. But that still removes the possible hook from such a game. Which sends us back to the third criterion. And that, ultimately, fails the test.
|
|
inherit
9459
0
Nov 24, 2021 20:18:46 GMT
5,622
SirSourpuss
7,694
Oct 16, 2017 16:19:07 GMT
October 2017
sirpetrakus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, SWTOR
|
Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 13, 2019 13:19:19 GMT
True That Reaper Drell is a Sneak Attack Expert Can he cloak as well? I mean, I would have loved the ability to cloak and creep behind an enemy and trigger an insta-kill. Imagine the possibilities of that in a potential MP mode. We could have a MP campaign like Left 4 Dead with units like these. I'd share a beer with Dr. Godiva. Dutch is almost 7'0 tall and highly muscular Blond? Heavy Austrian accent? Say no more.
|
|
inherit
3439
0
9,172
alanc9
Old Scientist Contrarian
7,823
February 2017
alanc9
|
Post by alanc9 on Jul 13, 2019 15:08:21 GMT
Wasn't there a poll on whether ME "4" should be a prequel or sequel and the community overwhelmingly voted sequel, which led to Andromeda? And the original plan was a "first contact" scenario. So it's not unheard of. Apparently, it gave us something that a lot of people here like. Personally, I didn't care for it, but that doesn't mean people should like it, or want more of it. As I said, we should get an Andromeda 2, for you/those people. And, ideally, a 3 after it. But if you want that, you're going to want Bioware to be there to make it and not go the way of the dodo and an Andromeda 2 doesn't seem to be the best way to go about it. Not right now, at least. Yeah, prequels and sidequels have historically not gone over well, at least to the extent we have data. Which is kind of a problem for your idea.
|
|
inherit
9459
0
Nov 24, 2021 20:18:46 GMT
5,622
SirSourpuss
7,694
Oct 16, 2017 16:19:07 GMT
October 2017
sirpetrakus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, SWTOR
|
Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 13, 2019 15:34:23 GMT
Wasn't there a poll on whether ME "4" should be a prequel or sequel and the community overwhelmingly voted sequel, which led to Andromeda? And the original plan was a "first contact" scenario. So it's not unheard of. Apparently, it gave us something that a lot of people here like. Personally, I didn't care for it, but that doesn't mean people should like it, or want more of it. As I said, we should get an Andromeda 2, for you/those people. And, ideally, a 3 after it. But if you want that, you're going to want Bioware to be there to make it and not go the way of the dodo and an Andromeda 2 doesn't seem to be the best way to go about it. Not right now, at least. Yeah, prequels and sidequels have historically not gone over well, at least to the extent we have data. Which is kind of a problem for your idea. That is true. It also panders to the strong female protagonist theme we've been going through, that has also not been going well financially, mostly. What I am hoping is that with the cameos, if handled well enough, can entice people back. The overall point of my idea is to make a small budget title that we can DoA: Venus Vacation the fuck out of, by pandering to the lowest common denominator; lonely, fat, neckbeards like myself We're going to tug on some heartstrings, have some campy, cheesy fun and throw in some emotional moments. Remember Grunt's mission in ME3? That was the height of the game for me, the best part of it. It actually got me to jump off my chair in the end. Let's do some more of those moments. That's what I had in mind, while also exploring a womance. That's like a bromance, only with women, if anyone doesn't know. You could even try to gay their relationship up a bit, if you want to pander to the LGBTQ community, as well. I remember Jack not being gay, or at least bi, was a big hang up for a lot of women, back then.
So, throwing it all out, what do you think we should do? What would you propose?
|
|
inherit
1227
0
Apr 24, 2024 23:07:00 GMT
3,662
Phantom
2,657
August 2016
deathscepter
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, KOTOR, Jade Empire
|
Post by Phantom on Jul 13, 2019 15:38:25 GMT
True That Reaper Drell is a Sneak Attack Expert Can he cloak as well? I mean, I would have loved the ability to cloak and creep behind an enemy and trigger an insta-kill. Imagine the possibilities of that in a potential MP mode. We could have a MP campaign like Left 4 Dead with units like these. I'd share a beer with Dr. Godiva. Dutch is almost 7'0 tall and highly muscular Blond? Heavy Austrian accent? Say no more. Well Reaper Drell is a master of the Tactical Cloak and all of his abilities supplement it completely. So Assassination+Tactical Cloak+Reaper Drell Assassin Husk Passive+Any Sniper Rifle will make Cerberus Nemesis Envious. Dr. Godiva and his Cerberus team are respected by T.I.M. and Cerberus because they don't fuck up while getting results. Able to make Effective Non Bat shit Crazy Super Soldiers from any Willing Test Subjects and within my mass effect fantasy game, his research develop the Project: Phantom; Project: Phoenix; Project: Larazus and Project: Dragoon. The Technology results from his research don't work well with Reaper Technology. So a Super Soldier from his projects without Reaper Implants will be stronger and saner than those with Reaper Implants. Dutch is supposed to be very good looking if not gorgeous and he does have charismatic yet intense personality that draws people to him. In Short, Dutch has Intelligence, N7 training, N7 Officer Training, Willpower and Charisma to be a Dangerous Enemy to any player character. His only true berserker button is a Cerberus Phantom that trolls the shit out of him completely and openly mocks him and exploits his berserker buttons in order to make idiotic mistakes. Dutch believes to be a better fighter than this certain Cerberus Phantom; This Cerberus Phantom knows that Dutch is a better fighter when not enraged and will exploit Dutch's temper in order to make Dutch stupid enough to make mistakes in battle. My Idea of Cerberus Phantom: He blends of Old Master, Determinator, Guile Hero and a Troll. True he is a good martial artist but Dutch is that much better of a fighter than him due to Dutch's N7 Training.
|
|
inherit
9459
0
Nov 24, 2021 20:18:46 GMT
5,622
SirSourpuss
7,694
Oct 16, 2017 16:19:07 GMT
October 2017
sirpetrakus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, SWTOR
|
Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 13, 2019 15:45:27 GMT
Well Reaper Drell is a master of the Tactical Cloak and all of his abilities supplement it completely. So Assassination+Tactical Cloak+Reaper Drell Assassin Husk Passive+Any Sniper Rifle will make Cerberus Nemesis Envious. Now I'm wondering if we're making him too OP. I don't remember this. Is it for the Adept? Or is it some other type of project more tied to post mortem regeneration? Or would that be covered by Lazarus entirely? His only true berserker button is a Cerberus Phantom that trolls the shit out of him completely and openly mocks him and exploits his berserker buttons in order to make idiotic mistakes Is he an ugly m*ther f*cker? I should probably stop with the Predator memes.
|
|
inherit
1227
0
Apr 24, 2024 23:07:00 GMT
3,662
Phantom
2,657
August 2016
deathscepter
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, KOTOR, Jade Empire
|
Post by Phantom on Jul 13, 2019 16:18:57 GMT
Well Reaper Drell is a master of the Tactical Cloak and all of his abilities supplement it completely. So Assassination+Tactical Cloak+Reaper Drell Assassin Husk Passive+Any Sniper Rifle will make Cerberus Nemesis Envious. Now I'm wondering if we're making him too OP. I don't remember this. Is it for the Adept? Or is it some other type of project more tied to post mortem regeneration? Or would that be covered by Lazarus entirely? His only true berserker button is a Cerberus Phantom that trolls the shit out of him completely and openly mocks him and exploits his berserker buttons in order to make idiotic mistakes Is he an ugly m*ther f*cker? I should probably stop with the Predator memes. Remember the Phoenix is an Mythology bird that re-born from the ashes. And His Research of Cell Regeneration and Nanite Technology are a major factor for Lazarus, Phantom, Phoenix and Dragoon Research. Have you ever thought about why Shepard in ME2 can be convert into a Biotic when he was a Soldier/Engineer or Infiltrator, Dr. Godiva's research can allow normal people to learn and properly handle biotic abilites without being born as one. Well Cerberus Phantom does have an armor set Called Cerberus Phantom Predator Armor and yes it is an reference to Predator. Yes Cerberus Phantom will refer to that Movie and say,"Hey Dutch, You remember of an old action movie, called Predator, there was a guy named Dutch and he was in special forces like you. So why not have an armor based off the Predator and I can be your "predator", Dutch." Reaper Drell is the type of character that you can take on Platuimun and be successful with solos and convert an Indoctrinated Version of him is no less dangerous
|
|
inherit
9459
0
Nov 24, 2021 20:18:46 GMT
5,622
SirSourpuss
7,694
Oct 16, 2017 16:19:07 GMT
October 2017
sirpetrakus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, SWTOR
|
Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 13, 2019 16:34:26 GMT
Have you ever thought about why Shepard in ME2 can be convert into a Biotic when he was a Soldier/Engineer or Infiltrator That's nice. Going all Rogue One and explaining jarring discrepancies, as well. Cerberus Phantom will refer to that Movie and say,"Hey Dutch, You remember of an old action movie, called Predator, there was a guy named Dutch and he was in special forces like you. So why not have an armor based off the Predator and I can be your "predator", Dutch." To which Dutch replies to with "No, you're one ugly m*ther f*cker". I love it. It's like poetry. Reaper Drell is the type of character that you can take on Platuimun and be successful with solos and convert an Indoctrinated Version of him is no less dangerous That's a pretty rare character card for the MP. I mean, if we go along with it.
|
|
inherit
1227
0
Apr 24, 2024 23:07:00 GMT
3,662
Phantom
2,657
August 2016
deathscepter
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, KOTOR, Jade Empire
|
Post by Phantom on Jul 13, 2019 17:14:00 GMT
Have you ever thought about why Shepard in ME2 can be convert into a Biotic when he was a Soldier/Engineer or Infiltrator That's nice. Going all Rogue One and explaining jarring discrepancies, as well. Cerberus Phantom will refer to that Movie and say,"Hey Dutch, You remember of an old action movie, called Predator, there was a guy named Dutch and he was in special forces like you. So why not have an armor based off the Predator and I can be your "predator", Dutch." To which Dutch replies to with "No, you're one ugly m*ther f*cker". I love it. It's like poetry. Reaper Drell is the type of character that you can take on Platuimun and be successful with solos and convert an Indoctrinated Version of him is no less dangerous That's a pretty rare character card for the MP. I mean, if we go along with it. For example, my Cerberus Phantom and his cell are the Mass Effect version of Rogue One meets Suicide Squad with healthy success rate and Dr. Godiva is a member of that crew. Lakota, a female scientist that often works with Dr. Godiva and personally recruited by him due to her training in biology and made her the head of biology division of his research department. As intelligent as Dr. Godiva truly is, he knew that he need extra help from people like Lakota help with the research. Lets Face, Cerberus Phantom Predator Armor is extremely ugly while being functional within the Mass Effect universe. With Cerberus Phantom due to his skills(before joining and after Cerberus) with this armor is quite dangerous and would be a very infiltrator oriented boss battle if faced against him but fun to play as if he is a player character. Dutch, He is a heavy weapons expert version of N7 Fury. He does have a healthy variety of armors and helmets to conceal his identity when need to and some of his armors and helmets are nightmare fuel. Also Like a standard N7, He is good with Snipers, Assaults, Heavy Pistols, Shotguns and Smgs.
|
|
inherit
Scribbles
185
0
Apr 23, 2024 17:30:54 GMT
30,246
Hanako Ikezawa
22,353
August 2016
hanakoikezawa
|
Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 13, 2019 17:25:42 GMT
What's the framework of discussing squad decisions? Do you talk in terms of "deserving" and "stealing" screen time? ME3 did to the roster exactly what ME2 did: removed everyone from the previous game, with the exceptions of Garrus and Tali because too many people needed to get laid with them. They should not have been sexual romances, especially Tali. Doing that really trivialized a huge part of the Quarians since it went from 'any exposure could kill them' to 'take some meds and soon you'll be completely adapted'.
|
|
inherit
10160
0
Apr 24, 2024 20:19:00 GMT
4,882
burningcherry
1,328
May 18, 2018 21:58:48 GMT
May 2018
burningcherry
Mass Effect Trilogy, Mass Effect Andromeda
burningcherry97
|
Post by burningcherry on Jul 13, 2019 17:32:21 GMT
What's the framework of discussing squad decisions? Do you talk in terms of "deserving" and "stealing" screen time? ME3 did to the roster exactly what ME2 did: removed everyone from the previous game, with the exceptions of Garrus and Tali because too many people needed to get laid with them. They should not have been sexual romances, especially Tali. Doing that really trivialized a huge part of the Quarians since it went from 'any exposure could kill them' to 'take some meds and soon you'll be completely adapted'. Non-sexual romances with Tali or Jack are some of the very few things that would convince me to play broshep.
|
|
helios969
N4
Kamisama
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR
Origin: helios969
Prime Posts: No Clue
Prime Likes: Who Cares
Posts: 1,853 Likes: 2,478
inherit
867
0
Apr 13, 2024 10:39:49 GMT
2,478
helios969
Kamisama
1,853
August 2016
helios969
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR
helios969
No Clue
Who Cares
|
Post by helios969 on Jul 14, 2019 8:12:01 GMT
I don't particularly like arguing with you. End discussion. Interesting...and yet you managed to fill up the last several pages going back and forth. It takes two to tango...so it's really easy to end discussions. Just saying.
|
|
inherit
9459
0
Nov 24, 2021 20:18:46 GMT
5,622
SirSourpuss
7,694
Oct 16, 2017 16:19:07 GMT
October 2017
sirpetrakus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, SWTOR
|
Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 14, 2019 9:19:22 GMT
They should not have been sexual romances What's so problematic about a romance being sexual? Or are you referring in particular to the dextro LIs? Non-sexual romances with Tali or Jack are some of the very few things that would convince me to play broshep. Wasn't Jack's scene a little bit ambiguous on the sex part? There's some kissing, a lot of comforting and then we're back to snuggling. If anything, it probably implies there was no sex involved, as I see it. What I really disliked was the " Press "F" to cuddle" thing. Let's not do that again, Bioware. That was cringe.
|
|
inherit
9459
0
Nov 24, 2021 20:18:46 GMT
5,622
SirSourpuss
7,694
Oct 16, 2017 16:19:07 GMT
October 2017
sirpetrakus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, SWTOR
|
Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 14, 2019 10:05:34 GMT
Lakota, a female scientist that often works with Dr. Godiva For some reason, I see Lakota looking a lot like Anna Navarre. Probably not as augmented, but definitely to some extent. Cerberus Phantom due to his skills(before joining and after Cerberus) with this armor is quite dangerous and would be a very infiltrator oriented boss battle if faced against him but fun to play as if he is a player character. That is true. Especially in a MP mode.
|
|
inherit
1227
0
Apr 24, 2024 23:07:00 GMT
3,662
Phantom
2,657
August 2016
deathscepter
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, KOTOR, Jade Empire
|
Post by Phantom on Jul 14, 2019 12:49:15 GMT
Lakota, a female scientist that often works with Dr. Godiva For some reason, I see Lakota looking a lot like Anna Navarre. Probably not as augmented, but definitely to some extent. Cerberus Phantom due to his skills(before joining and after Cerberus) with this armor is quite dangerous and would be a very infiltrator oriented boss battle if faced against him but fun to play as if he is a player character. That is true. Especially in a MP mode. Lakota is inspired from Dream I had awhile back and she took the form of Antje Traue(Pandorum, Seventh Son, Man of Steel, Dark and others films and Tv Series). Lakota is a mentally tough while being highly intelligent scientist and a badass bookworm. For more of a Ice Queen that is icier than Miranda, Delilah Tessa Winsbrooke is a tall gorgeous blonde scientist that does specialize in medical technologies and a known research associate of Dr. Godiva. Side note: if My Cerberus Phantom becomes a Player character, if done well, he is an effective cerberus agent while being roleplayed several different ways. Yes he does have the sense of humor that allows for hilarous scenes and excuse for the player to be an absolute troll. And able to make fun of excessively flashy martial artists while kicking their asses. In Short you can roleplay as more of a cautious person towards aliens to warm towards aliens while be realistic above each alien individual will be self interested in their own species survival no matter how good their personal relationships to Humanity and he doesn't blame them to have self interest. If you remember Maya Brookes from Citadel DLC, he is the type of person will call her out her bullshit and being too hardcore of a racist to be an effective Cerberus Agent. To Him, Personal biased towards Aliens needs to be put aside when need when working for Cerberus and their goals.
|
|
inherit
9459
0
Nov 24, 2021 20:18:46 GMT
5,622
SirSourpuss
7,694
Oct 16, 2017 16:19:07 GMT
October 2017
sirpetrakus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, SWTOR
|
Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 14, 2019 12:56:10 GMT
Oof. Antje as Faora in MoS was immaculate. A perfect mix of stunning and deadly. I wonder what Chris Meloni's character and Faora are doing in the phantom zone. She clearly seemed to respect him, for how weak and fragile he was in comparison, but still going up against her. And the short hair perfectly compliments, or rather uncovers her breathtaking face. Delilah Tessa Winsbrooke is a tall gorgeous blonde That hair colour is going to be a problem for Bioware. I've yet to see them implement blond hair on anyone seamlessly.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Deleted
inherit
guest@proboards.com
10036
0
Apr 24, 2024 23:23:43 GMT
Deleted
0
Apr 24, 2024 23:23:43 GMT
January 1970
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2019 15:23:59 GMT
I don't particularly like arguing with you. End discussion. Interesting...and yet you managed to fill up the last several pages going back and forth. It takes two to tango...so it's really easy to end discussions. Just saying. Ture. So, why aren't you also posting such advice directly to the person who claims to enjoy arguing instead of just targeting my posts? I'm not even sure why you felt the need to interject into the discussion since I have clearly ended the discussion. Note the difference: I enjoy discussing things with people. I do not enjoy arguing with them. The discussion at had is choosing a canon based on stats. Do you have anything to add further that is actually on topic?
Recapping my stance/opinion:
1) Choosing a canon ending is unnecessary. The story can be written in such a way that it brings even the Milky Way galaxy to a single world state without declaring a single ending canon (that inlcudes the concept that choosing Destroy, Shepard lives is NOT the only viable option Bioware has at this point). All that is required is a timeline far enough into the future to allow whatever events Bioware wants to put into the time gap to undo all the evidence of whatever the ME3 ending world states were and moving the story forward from that far in the future point. This has already, in effect, been done inside ME:A. As such, they could also opt to just stay in the Andromeda Galaxy.
2) We do not possess enough knowledge about the stats collected by Bioware to ascertain the opinions of the vast majority of players who do not participate on these boards. As a result, regardless of which side you're on in this debate, the people who are known to agree in either extreme here are a relatively small in number. We also have expressed numerous differing opinions among the various individuals posting here indicating that there really isn't any cohesiveness within either side of this particular debate.
3) Bioware should not pander to either small group that represents the "extremes" but should rather do their best to determine the will of the "silent majority" and design their games around them.
|
|