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Post by witchcocktor on Mar 8, 2019 14:50:49 GMT
You are doing a bit much, although I'm sure there are people who would think like that, wouldn't surprise me. I don't think the person who commented on my reply meant ANY of that, or that their opinion means that they are a straight man (not like it matters anyway). With that said, I do want male sex demons who are, sexy male demons. Even if desire demons aren't basically lust demons, that is the demon form we have been given by Bioware (in every entry except DA:I where the only desire demon is a human mage possessed by a desire demon), sexed up succubuses. I would like to see that design in a male form, since it is factual that these demons CAN take the shape of a male, even in the Fade. Even if desire demons take advantage of other desires than just lust, they can still look lusty and sexy while doing this.
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Post by Tekehu's booty on Mar 8, 2019 14:54:55 GMT
You are doing a bit much, although I'm sure there are people who would think like that, wouldn't surprise me. I don't think the person who commented on my reply meant ANY of that, or that their opinion means that they are a straight man (not like it matters anyway). I have that guy blocked for a reason, that kind of rhetoric is not gonna fool me. This forum is full of this.
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Post by Ieldra on Mar 8, 2019 15:32:00 GMT
lol straight dudes TM diminishing the idea of a sexual fanservice male desire demon I'M SHOOK sealioning it like "desire means alot of tings 1!!!111 but only sexual when it comes to my dick!!1!!" Yeah right, that must OF COURSE be the only reason for my statement. OF COURSE.... Gods, this is so fucked-up I don't have words for it. You *MAY* have wanted to read my *other* statement that I wouldn't mind female and male-presenting desire-demons.
Didn't I say somewhere that sanity flies out of the window whenever sex enters the picture? Well, QED I guess. QED.
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Post by Tekehu's booty on Mar 8, 2019 15:34:09 GMT
Anyway
I dont understand the thread, like monsters we have to fight against or monsters/non-human in general?
Because I HOPE the scaled ones are just another civilization and not just brainless monsters we have to defeat. I hope we can see them in DA4
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Post by Gileadan on Mar 8, 2019 15:37:29 GMT
No one mentioned griffons yet?
I am disappoint.
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Post by Tekehu's booty on Mar 8, 2019 15:46:10 GMT
No one mentioned griffons yet? I am disappoint. YES please I want to pet those winged big puppies 😭 I think they are going to show up at some point, maybe in the last game as last epic battle (Bioware did say they wanted to do five games innit? or is this my memory being bad lol)
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Post by Little Bengel on Mar 8, 2019 16:25:41 GMT
I don't know if this fits in the category of "monsters we haven't seen", but I'd like to see more well-defined abominations of specific demons: Rage, Desire, Sloth, Hunger, Fear, Despair, Envy, etc. (particularly of Hunger or demons introduced in DAI) No one mentioned griffons yet? I am disappoint. YES please I want to pet those winged big puppies 😭 I think they are going to show up at some point, maybe in the last game as last epic battle (Bioware did say they wanted to do five games innit? or is this my memory being bad lol) Dunno if it was Darrah or Laidlaw that said it, but they have a general plan that's always about 2 "games" ahead.
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Post by thats1evildude on Mar 8, 2019 16:55:22 GMT
the only reason desire demons are just succubi is to pander wankers, welp! Pander to all kind of wankers and give gay men and women the same but in male. Period. There's no excuse. I think you meant to say “pander TO wankers.” And dude, I don’t need desire demons to jack off to. There’s more than enough porn on the Internet. My point is that you don’t NEED male desire demons anymore than I need “female” rage demons. Desire demons are not succubi. They’re not out to fuck you. They’re just monsters - 90 per cent of the time, you just fight them. I know you have this idea in your head that if they just put “male” desire demons in the game, it’d be one nonstop parade of endless fan service, but it ain’t going to work that way.In fact, I have no doubt that if they did put male desire demons in the game, you’d complain about not being able to fuck them. There is not one demon in all of the Dragon Age games where they have more than one base model for the different demon types. Even the fearlings, which canonically appear as different things to different people, always appear to us as spiders. Maybe some different design decisions should have been made back in 2009. Personally, I think the desire demons should have been less human-like; I would have pushed to give them a mouth of teeth like Baraka from Mortal Kombat. Nonetheless, this is how things are, and they shouldn’t change. This isn’t about fan service; this is about not changing the lore every time someone screams “THIS OFFENDS ME!”
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 8, 2019 18:16:38 GMT
Even if desire demons take advantage of other desires than just lust, they can still look lusty and sexy while doing this I'm sure sexy male desire demons do exist because Dorian mentions that on his first foray to the Fade a demon tried to seduce him. It would have to have been a very stupid demon to try and do so with a female form since demons can read minds so it would know what form to take that would most tempt him.
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 8, 2019 18:27:26 GMT
There is not one demon in all of the Dragon Age games where they have more than one base model for the different demon types.
However, they can take different forms, at least when in the Fade, based off the memories of the person they want to possess/distract. So whilst the default desire demon might be a female, there is no reason why we might not encounter a specific demon at some point whose attribute was desire but chose to present as something we would not normally associate with that kind of demon. (See above comment about the demon that tried to seduce Dorian in the Fade).
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Post by thats1evildude on Mar 8, 2019 18:28:18 GMT
Even if desire demons take advantage of other desires than just lust, they can still look lusty and sexy while doing this I'm sure sexy male desire demons do exist because Dorian mentions that on his first foray to the Fade a demon tried to seduce him. It would have to have been a very stupid demon to try and do so with a female form since demons can read minds so it would know what form to take that would most tempt him. It definitely did appear as male, but it didn’t necessarily appear as a purple dude with horns. When a desire demon tried to possess Feynriel, it appeared as his father Vincento. And when it tried to tempt Aveline, it turned into Wesley. All spirits can change shape, but the purple horned lady has always the default form for desire demons, just like the spirits of wisdom. Likewise, “big spiky purple monster” is the default for pride and “fiery snake with arms” is the default for rage.
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 8, 2019 18:31:42 GMT
Desire demons can change shape, but the female form is always the default, just as it is with spirits of wisdom. It has been up to now because there was no particular reason to opt for variety. However, if a desire demon was plot specific then they might well model it based off the selection you made in the character creation, assuming of course that the rumour they would ask you to choose your sexual orientation there was true. Alternatively, the demon might actually ask you what form you wished it to take or, if the programming was very responsive, according to your choice of romance partner.
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Post by thats1evildude on Mar 8, 2019 18:34:21 GMT
Desire demons can change shape, but the female form is always the default, just as it is with spirits of wisdom. It has been up to now because there was no particular reason to opt for variety. However, if a desire demon was plot specific then they might well model it based off the selection you made in the character creation, assuming of course that the rumour they would ask you to choose your sexual orientation there was true. Alternatively, the demon might actually ask you what form you wished it to take or, if the programming was very responsive, according to your choice of romance partner. Yet again, we come to the conclusion that if a thing is there, it must be there to have sex with. :sigh: Let’s just say, for the sake of argument, that desire demons pop up in the next game, but ONLY as combat opponents. Is it still important to have different models? Should there be a mix of male and female, or do we need to have a toggle so that all the desire demons appear as male or female? Should there also be a gender neutral model for the players who feel no sexual desire at all?
I mean, how much effort needs to be spent on this before every single possible Dragon Age fan is happy with the appearances of the monsters they kill and then loot?
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 8, 2019 20:06:29 GMT
Yet again, we come to the conclusion that if a thing is there, it must be there to have sex with. :sigh: I never said that. I was merely commenting that based off what Dorian said, desire demons do respond to your sexual preference, and if that is the way the writers wanted to take it then it wouldn't be lore breaking. I've no particular desire for a desire demon (terrible pun I know) whether male or female, just as I've no particular need for the sex scenes to be more explicit in showing body parts. I just agreed that there was no reason why a desire demon shouldn't be depicted that way since it ought to be responding to the mind of the person it is trying to tempt and the obvious implication with the desire demons we encountered previously was that they took that form to be sexually desirable. The poem about the transformation of a spirit of love into a demon of desire also seemed to imply the same. To be honest, considering desire covers a far wider spectrum than merely sexual desire, it always seemed odd that they should choose such a form for the demon in the first place.
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Post by thats1evildude on Mar 8, 2019 20:24:41 GMT
Well, sexual desire is an easy visual shorthand for lust, which differentiates from gluttony and greed as the desire for anything abstract (power, respect, love, knowledge and so on). They should have gone with a big, fat-ass, floating cupcake instead. Everyone loves cupcakes. Give us a kiss now, yeh sexy bitch.
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Post by witchcocktor on Mar 8, 2019 20:47:42 GMT
Yes, they should've went with something that actually looks like a horrible demon, instead of a sexy succubus. I mean there's nothing wrong with sexy succubi, but I feel like the design undermines desire, and puts LUST in the forefront, and specifically the lust of women-loving folk. They could've done something more interesting, like I feel like something like this would've been cooler. Not outright sexy, but has some vaguely sexual themes to symbolize lust.
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Post by Blaze on Mar 13, 2019 13:28:52 GMT
they are not monsters, they are just misunderstood.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Mar 13, 2019 13:55:18 GMT
The Desire Demon should look like that monster from Shin Megami Tensei that is literally just a cock with wheels.
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Post by biggydx on Mar 13, 2019 19:43:28 GMT
So just because the developers made a design that's clearly based on a one-sided interpretation of the lore in one case, you want them to add more of the same? Mind you, I wouldn't mind DAO's desire demons coming back along with male-presenting equivalents, but they *are* based on a one-sided interpretation of the lore, and I'd like them to be less one-sided in general.
Besides....I just hate this tendency to reduce everything to sex.
Well I absolutely strongly disagree with that. Personally I feel a demon that is connected to sex and sexuality is more intriguing and fascinating than a demon who takes advantage of any desire. So what you're saying is: #ReleaseTheBeast
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Post by thats1evildude on Mar 14, 2019 5:03:31 GMT
Hope Spirits - previously we were told these were the most powerful of benign spirits but rarely encountered. Could do with one of them on our side against Solas. That’s assuming they don’t join Solas. We may see many spirits support his cause.
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 14, 2019 18:19:24 GMT
That’s assuming they don’t join Solas. We may see many spirits support his cause.
"Many?" Cole simply didn't want us to harm Solas but I don't think a compassion spirit would agree with killing everyone to achieve his aims. Imshael could be said to tacitly support him bearing in mind his reaction to Felassan but then it probably will give rise to some interesting choice dilemmas both for Solas and others. Then there was one spirit of Wisdom and one spirit of Purpose he was friends with during his slumber but that is not to say we should automatically think they supported his overall plan. That is no exactly my definition of "many". (I don't count the spirits we encounter at Fen'Harel's sanctuary as I think these were the spirits of elves who supported him when alive).
Spirits (as opposed to demons) may not necessarily want to have the two states of existence reunited even if they are capable of acting outside the parameters of their nature. A Hope spirit might support him because he is trying to give hope to his People but equally a Hope spirit might help the opposition because they have no hope of survival if he drops the Veil.
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Post by thats1evildude on Mar 14, 2019 18:35:19 GMT
Actually, I think Imshael threw his lot in with Corypheus to prevent Fen’Harel’s ascendancy. He and the other Forbidden Ones were exiled by the elves, after all. There's no reason he'd want a return of their civilization; he even outright states in World of Thedas Volume 2 that he prefers dealing with humans, since they're more willing to make the kind of choices he likes.
I suspect many spirits will side with Solas because they remember the world that was and would seek its return.
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Post by cloud9 on Mar 31, 2019 13:42:10 GMT
Vampires.
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Post by Gwydden on Mar 31, 2019 14:24:00 GMT
The Desire Demon should look like that monster from Shin Megami Tensei that is literally just a cock with wheels. So... a cannon? What I find odd about desire demons is that their appearance in DA:O made no sense in view of the type of "seduction" they were conducting. I mean, two out of the three times I remember actually talking with desire demons, their victim was a prepubescent child. Obviously, the answer is fanservice. I'm conflicted when it comes to the better solution, whether to do away with the fanservice entirely or to make it equal opportunity. If they had really wanted to push the lust angle, an androgynous demon would probably have been the best choice, but that ship has sailed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 21:28:26 GMT
Schleets. We may have caught glimpses of them but never a true sighting. 👖👖👖👖
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