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Post by Heimdall on Mar 8, 2019 11:30:25 GMT
You get a two for one this week! The Avvar video ended up being just under 20 min even after I stripped out most of the explanation of the Avvar gods:
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 8, 2019 19:34:08 GMT
I must admit I find the Avvar fascinating and was glad we got such an insight into their lore and customs in Jaws of Hakkon. It is a pity we are heading north now as I presume that is the last we shall see of them for a while.
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Post by NotN7 on Mar 9, 2019 1:22:17 GMT
I must admit I find the Avvar fascinating and was glad we got such an insight into their lore and customs in Jaws of Hakkon. It is a pity we are heading north now as I presume that is the last we shall see of them for a while. Don't forget the Avvar that was exiled to Treventer I think they will make an entrance at some point in DA4
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 9, 2019 8:28:37 GMT
Don't forget the Avvar that was exiled to Treventer I think they will make an entrance at some point in DA4 Actually that would be an appropriate way they could bring an Avvar companion into your party. I'd really like that. He went with his whole clan didn't he so they could be male or female? However, was that always the outcome? I thought we could just have executed him so his clan would have stayed in the south. Or may be they could just say that Skywatcher was sent north by the Inquisition as I think he never winds up dead.
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Post by Heimdall on Mar 9, 2019 11:00:38 GMT
Don't forget the Avvar that was exiled to Treventer I think they will make an entrance at some point in DA4 Actually that would be an appropriate way they could bring an Avvar companion into your party. I'd really like that. He went with his whole clan didn't he so they could be male or female? However, was that always the outcome? I thought we could just have executed him so his clan would have stayed in the south. Or may be they could just say that Skywatcher was sent north by the Inquisition as I think he never winds up dead. Yeah, that’s something that only could happen. Is that decision even in the Keep? Either way, they could use Skywatcher or simply create a new character, say someone from Stone Bear hold who decided to work for the Inquisition.
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 9, 2019 12:00:14 GMT
What appeals to me about the Avvar, along with the rural Rivaiani and the Fog People, is that they have a faith system and associated customs that my PC could follow and makes sense to me. I loved the response of the Augur to the Inquisitor when they pointed out their gods were spirits.
I also found it somewhat annoying that the only alternative faith system to the Chantry that was available to my PC in DAI was that of the Dalish and then they totally trashed it in the course of DAI and Trespasser. None of my companions believed in anything different either and were generally presented as either devout Andrastrians or atheists. Those that did believe were either patronising about my Dalish beliefs, Cassandra asking if I can't find room in my pantheon for one more god when I'd always understood it was the Chantry who had a problem with multi-deities, encouraging me to embrace being Herald for the good of the morale of the people, Blackwall, Mother Giselle, etc, regardless of the truth and my own beliefs on the matter, or outright hostile, Sera who had rejected both Dalish and City elf beliefs without ever giving me a good explanation for why she felt the way she did, particularly about the customs of the city elves, whilst apparently willing to embrace the stories peddled by the Chantry.
Back in DAO some of the beliefs of the Dalish seemed somewhat illogical to me but nevertheless it was possible to go along with them because no one could say for certain what was true and after all the Keepers admit their knowledge of ancient times is fragmentary. However, the revelations in the course of DAI and Trespasser make following the Dalish belief system somewhat problematic. So I am rather relieved that heading to Tevinter should hopefully remove the possibility that my PC has to play a Dalish if I want to be an elf (which I usually do). However, I don't want to be stuck being an adherent of the Imperial Chantry or simply an atheist either. So with any luck I shall either have a companion with a belief system I can embrace or I will actually be able to play one, although that will probably necessitate me having a human background, which I would happily do if I am not simply given the option of once again being a member of the nobility of Tevinter. (Every game so far the human background has been that of nobility and it would be good to have a change)
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Post by parsival on Apr 6, 2019 9:49:48 GMT
A double whammy of Avvar goodness! I very much enjoyed listening to these episodes, though it did make me wonder if the 'dd' in Tyrdda should be pronounced as a 'th' (like in 'them' or 'the'), as it is in Welsh.
It is interesting to ponder whether the loss of their god of war for centuries directly hindered the martial prowess of the Avvar for that period. I suspect it did, and that after the year of rituals to bring him back, there might be an Avvar resurgence on the cards. Winter is coming...
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Post by gervaise21 on Apr 6, 2019 12:08:33 GMT
It is interesting to ponder whether the loss of their god of war for centuries directly hindered the martial prowess of the Avvar for that period It certainly didn't limit their enthusiasm for war with the puny lowlanders. There were the combined Chasind/Avvar forces that Hafter was forced to defeat towards the end of the Divine age and then there was the warlord Balak in the Steel Age who terrorised the Bannorn with his horde for 2 years before he was driven back, so I suppose Ferelden was lucky Hakkon wasn't around if that is what they did without him. Still, summoning the god into a dragon was a pretty extreme action on the part of the Hakkonites, so may be the Avvar weren't aware he was totally absent and assumed he wasn't responding to their prayers for some other reason. Or may be some other spirit was masquerading as him and enjoying the worship, because they did know he couldn't do anything about it.
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