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Post by garrusfan1 on Mar 8, 2019 22:13:53 GMT
Alright what if twenty years or so after the reaper wars we find out that galaxy has managed to fix some of the relays and thus reconnecting some of the galaxy. The efforts are focused on rebuilding when an enemy that is like the protheans shows up. I don't mean the actual protheans but someone like the people javik describes. They conquer and enslave every race they find and the survivors of the reaper wars were next. They have to fight or be enslaved. It wouldn't be apocalyptic like the reapers but it wouldn't have to be. We would even be able to use some of the old crew since given how long humans can live in the mass effect universe everyone from our old crew "except zaeed" could show as a squadmate.
They could even bring back shepard if they wanted too and he would still be able to fight.
Perhaps better since I see the galaxy needing to use alot of cybernatics to fix people who were hurt in that massive war and it would probably be a priority to find a way to fix those people so they could contribute. A robotic arm that hooks up to your brain and works like your old one only better is entirely possible for example. And they would want shepard back since he was such a powerful symbol. went a little off topic there but you get what I am saying.
You wouldn't need to bring back shepard and this was just one idea. One of my reasons for writing this rough idea. Is to show there is ALOT more stories to tell in the milky way Post reaper war. I thought this up in less then five minutes. Now imagine what a really good writer could do.
The only real limitation for this would be the control ending. Given that the reapers were patrolling the galaxy they could destroy anyone that became a threat or just turn evil again and kill everyone. So destroy or synthesis endings would work for this idea. And if you did destroy you could even bring back shepard which while cheesy and such would definetely sell games.
So tell me what you think. Is this a good idea? Should we go back to the milky way and see another story told about it.
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Post by opuspace on Mar 11, 2019 0:56:07 GMT
Ehhhhhh, it's doable, and yet I'm conflicted.
I like the idea of playing Shepard again, yet after ME3, I'm more worried about further railroading of the character, like how the most renegade personalities were toned down to the point past hostilities with teammates were ignored outright. Without Shepard around, I'd rather not see the other teammates as that's salt in the wound. Which brings me back to wondering that if we're facing an unknown alien species trying to conquer the galaxy while civilizations are trying to get back on their feet and rebuild....I'm left wondering if it'd only bring up questions as to whether it's an Andromeda clone but with player agency being messed with.
So, it's not that you have a bad idea, it's whether it's worth the effort to poke that Milky Way beehive. My opinions are not representative of others so I can't even say for certain if it's better that way or not.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Mar 12, 2019 22:30:08 GMT
Ehhhhhh, it's doable, and yet I'm conflicted. I like the idea of playing Shepard again, yet after ME3, I'm more worried about further railroading of the character, like how the most renegade personalities were toned down to the point past hostilities with teammates were ignored outright. Without Shepard around, I'd rather not see the other teammates as that's salt in the wound. Which brings me back to wondering that if we're facing an unknown alien species trying to conquer the galaxy while civilizations are trying to get back on their feet and rebuild....I'm left wondering if it'd only bring up questions as to whether it's an Andromeda clone but with player agency being messed with. So, it's not that you have a bad idea, it's whether it's worth the effort to poke that Milky Way beehive. My opinions are not representative of others so I can't even say for certain if it's better that way or not. Honestly though I think they would be better off going back. As for the characters being ignored I was pissed about jack being almost non existent in ME3 but There were alot of characters so I get it.
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Post by griffith82 on Mar 13, 2019 3:17:48 GMT
Alright what if twenty years or so after the reaper wars we find out that galaxy has managed to fix some of the relays and thus reconnecting some of the galaxy. The efforts are focused on rebuilding when an enemy that is like the protheans shows up. I don't mean the actual protheans but someone like the people javik describes. They conquer and enslave every race they find and the survivors of the reaper wars were next. They have to fight or be enslaved. It wouldn't be apocalyptic like the reapers but it wouldn't have to be. We would even be able to use some of the old crew since given how long humans can live in the mass effect universe everyone from our old crew "except zaeed" could show as a squadmate.
They could even bring back shepard if they wanted too and he would still be able to fight.
Perhaps better since I see the galaxy needing to use alot of cybernatics to fix people who were hurt in that massive war and it would probably be a priority to find a way to fix those people so they could contribute. A robotic arm that hooks up to your brain and works like your old one only better is entirely possible for example. And they would want shepard back since he was such a powerful symbol. went a little off topic there but you get what I am saying.
You wouldn't need to bring back shepard and this was just one idea. One of my reasons for writing this rough idea. Is to show there is ALOT more stories to tell in the milky way Post reaper war. I thought this up in less then five minutes. Now imagine what a really good writer could do.
The only real limitation for this would be the control ending. Given that the reapers were patrolling the galaxy they could destroy anyone that became a threat or just turn evil again and kill everyone. So destroy or synthesis endings would work for this idea. And if you did destroy you could even bring back shepard which while cheesy and such would definetely sell games.
So tell me what you think. Is this a good idea? Should we go back to the milky way and see another story told about it.
Personally going back is a huge mistake. The MW imo is done. Continue with Andromeda.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Mar 17, 2019 20:07:24 GMT
Ah I though this would get more views
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 17, 2019 20:09:41 GMT
Ah I though this would get more views Part of it has to do with the number of new threads created. The more you make the fewer hits each will get.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Mar 17, 2019 21:09:30 GMT
Ah I though this would get more views Part of it has to do with the number of new threads created. The more you make the fewer hits each will get. fair enough. I haven't been on BSN since shortly after andromeda was released.
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 17, 2019 21:11:13 GMT
Part of it has to do with the number of new threads created. The more you make the fewer hits each will get. fair enough. I haven't been on BSN since shortly after andromeda was released. I'm not saying don't make threads. I'm just suggesting it might be part of the reason.
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Post by seamboat on May 10, 2019 22:49:59 GMT
I think the only way they could do another game in the Milky Way would be to do a prequel. The obvious problem is we know how it ultimately ends. I think their best bet would be to stay in Andromeda but I do not think Ryder or the pathfinder squad was all that likeable. I think it would be interesting if they treated Andromeda as kind of a bridge game between the OT and a new Trilogy. Basically they could set the next game 100 years in the future or so and the pathfinder squad are now all gone but not forgotten. Your character could be like a lovable rogue type, maybe a merc that has a heart of gold (or is very evil depending on your play style). But basically you find yourself caught up in a series of events and now universe depends on you bla bla bla. This new game would be start of a trilogy. I don't think this is going to happen though. If Bioware wanted to create a new trilogy they would need to have the full story written out first spanning the three games and start developing the games with the next game in mind. But I don't think EA would sanction a trilogy. Too much of a risk considering the ME3 ending controversy, Andromeda and Anthem. I don't think we will see a ME for a long time. Breaks my heart
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Post by Phantom on May 10, 2019 22:56:07 GMT
Well The Milk Way is your friend. Also EA/Bioware can make a Mass Effect sequel within the Milk Way in any way they want too.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 11, 2019 10:57:15 GMT
I was pissed about jack being almost non existent in ME3 but There were alot of characters so I get it. Jack, Miranda, Samara, Thane, Grunt, Jacob, they all got the shaft. Not to mention the insult of buying Kasumi's DLC, having invested the extra cash and her character being figuratively non-existent. At least Zaeed was free day 1 DLC that you got for just buying the game, so him barely being there in ME3 wasn't as egregious, but still, goddamn. A lot of people argue that "these characters are done, their arcs are finished" and to that I just have to wonder about all their plot points and subtle characterization hints that were left unexplored and swept under the rug in ME3, because Bioware was behind schedule and rushing to get the game released in a round about 16 month development cycle, probably even less than that. How is that finished? I can still see the lump on the rug, where you hid all these things under. It's a mountain in the middle of the room, with a rug thrown over it and furniture nailed down on its four edges, to keep it taut over the overflowing plot points. Meanwhile, some in the fanbase are poking at it, while others are tearing at the seams and poor old Bioware is screaming "stop, there's nothing there, that's the old living room, come see the new one, instead" And this all would have been great, if the new one was filled with fine furniture and an expensive chandelier, a door that led to an elevated patio with an infinity pool that oversaw the Caribbean. Nobody would have batted an eye at that, but instead, the new one is three scraps of carpet, a stand and a sofa that the dog chewed through. There's also an attempt at a fireplace, but they couldn't finish it, so to fix it, they dug a hole in the ground and threw the firewood there. How's that for closure? Seriously, has any other franchise been more mismanaged than Mass Effect, at this point? Well, I guess there's Sonic. Not like Bioware didn't contribute there as well.
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Post by themikefest on May 11, 2019 11:25:19 GMT
Well The Milk Way is your friend. Also EA/Bioware can make a Mass Effect sequel within the Milk Way in any way they want too. Yep. The Milky Way also houses the greatest friend a human could ask for, Earth. And yes again for EA/Bioware can make a game that takes place in the Milky Way, if they choose.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 11, 2019 11:50:08 GMT
Personally going back is a huge mistake. The MW imo is done. Continue with Andromeda. I would argue that Andromeda is even more terminally done. It almost killed Mass Effect in its entirety, which I didn't think it was even possible, considering how ME3 was handled, it killed Bioware Montreal and it shattered a lot of trust between people and Bioware. I'm not into watching another snuff film, sorry. I think the only way they could do another game in the Milky Way would be to do a prequel. The obvious problem is we know how it ultimately ends. I think their best bet would be to stay in Andromeda but I do not think Ryder or the pathfinder squad was all that likeable. I think it would be interesting if they treated Andromeda as kind of a bridge game between the OT and a new Trilogy. Basically they could set the next game 100 years in the future or so and the pathfinder squad are now all gone but not forgotten. Your character could be like a lovable rogue type, maybe a merc that has a heart of gold (or is very evil depending on your play style). But basically you find yourself caught up in a series of events and now universe depends on you bla bla bla. I hear you, I don't see how it could be a bridge, but I hear you. The problem is most of Bioware's newly introduced characters have had a mixed reception, at best, with a lot of people outright disliking them and reception getting progressively worse with each new title. And I've stated more than once how difficult it is to achieve the connection that MEOT characters benefited from and how poorly most of them were discarded, which in turn only makes people more reserved towards new introductions and even less likely to grow new attachments, while also being more critical. Bioware would still not be doing itself any favours and would not get a benefit of doubt this time around.
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Post by griffith82 on May 13, 2019 1:06:54 GMT
Personally going back is a huge mistake. The MW imo is done. Continue with Andromeda. I would argue that Andromeda is even more terminally done. It almost killed Mass Effect in its entirety, which I didn't think it was even possible, considering how ME3 was handled, it killed Bioware Montreal and it shattered a lot of trust between people and Bioware. I'm not into watching another snuff film, sorry. I think the only way they could do another game in the Milky Way would be to do a prequel. The obvious problem is we know how it ultimately ends. I think their best bet would be to stay in Andromeda but I do not think Ryder or the pathfinder squad was all that likeable. I think it would be interesting if they treated Andromeda as kind of a bridge game between the OT and a new Trilogy. Basically they could set the next game 100 years in the future or so and the pathfinder squad are now all gone but not forgotten. Your character could be like a lovable rogue type, maybe a merc that has a heart of gold (or is very evil depending on your play style). But basically you find yourself caught up in a series of events and now universe depends on you bla bla bla. I hear you, I don't see how it could be a bridge, but I hear you. The problem is most of Bioware's newly introduced characters have had a mixed reception, at best, with a lot of people outright disliking them and reception getting progressively worse with each new title. And I've stated more than once how difficult it is to achieve the connection that MEOT characters benefited from and how poorly most of them were discarded, which in turn only makes people more reserved towards new introductions and even less likely to grow new attachments, while also being more critical. Bioware would still not be doing itself any favours and would not get a benefit of doubt this time around. I dont agree with any of that. If they continue Andromeda you aren't forced to play it.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 13, 2019 6:15:26 GMT
If they continue Andromeda you aren't forced to play it. The "don't like it, don't buy it" attitude certain members of the fanbase have adopted, is not a good one and a non viable one, long term. Right now, we've reached a point where you want Bioware's next game to address as large an audience as possible, to get some growth. They need staff and standing within EA. If you want them to make a game that further spites the dissatisfied part of Bioware's fanbase and at the same time draws ire from the gaming media, it will, most likely, also be the last game Bioware makes. Right off the bat, an Andromeda 2 will not be doing them any favours. Unless you do force people to play it, not enough people will play it.
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Post by guanxi on May 13, 2019 15:37:33 GMT
Both settings are essentially done in their current incarnations... it’s almost garunteed at this point whichever one they go with will be fundamentally rebooted and disconnected from the series that proceeded it so in that sense choice of setting doesn’t matter. I think the big baddy Ancient aliens trope has been done too many times and likely better in this series already. Just give us a personal ‘human’ story with meaningful choice that impact our squads. No need for galaxy shaping consequences every game and don’t go overboard on the Marvel forumalic wacky dialogue just give us relatable believable characters and interpersonal conflict, balanced tonally consistent well paced character driven writting and we as a fan base are sold.
Andromeda is already a blank slate to begin with as there is basically nothing from MEA worth salvaging so I would do like to see Andromeda done properly but as a brand it’s tainted so they would probably either stick a number or a subtitle on the end of it and hope general audiences don’t notice it’s essentially a second reboot in Andromeda. A reboot doesn’t mean retreading old ground of the previous failed reboot, advance the timeline considerably so that the setting is brimming with interring lore and internal politics and interesting settings that we have come to expect from this series and BioWare of old. The next game needs to be a radical departure from design documents of previous BioWare games of the last few years and BioWare boilerplate bingo now BioWare is no longer a leader in narrative story driven games and has been left increasingly behind in recent years... the future of the series and the studio hangs in the balance we cannot afford another flop.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 13, 2019 16:21:02 GMT
Both settings are essentially done in their current incarnations... it’s almost garunteed at this point whichever one they go with will be fundamentally rebooted and disconnected from the series that proceeded it so in that sense choice of setting doesn’t matter. I think the Ancient aliens trope has been done too many times in this series already. Just give us a personal story with meaningful choice that impact our squads. No need for galaxy shaping consequences and don’t go overboard on the Joss Weddon-esque wacky dialogue just give us relatable believable characters and interpersonal conflict and we as a fan base are sold. Andromeda is already a blank slate to begin with as there is basically nothing from MEA worth salvaging so I would do like to see Andromeda done properly but as a brand it’s tainted so they would probably either stick a number or a subtitle on the end of it and hope general audiences don’t notice it’s essentially a second reboot in Andromeda. A reboot doesn’t mean retreading old ground of the previous failed reboot, advance the timeline considerably so that the setting is brimming with interring lore and internal politics and interesting settings that we have come to expect from this series and BioWare of old. Even if the gaming public forgets, do you think that the gaming media and clickbait youtubers are going to recede the chance to pile up their viewcounts, at a potential Andromeda 2 release? The memes will start preemptively. It's a death wish. Similarly, a new game, i.e. a non Andromeda related reboot, again, will be received with just a smidgeon less criticism. There is one thing that will give people pause, at this point and that is addressing the ME3 ending debacle. The way I see it, Bioware has three options:
- Make Andromeda 2/OT unrelated title and get roasted so hard, it will be macabre
- Drop ME and develop entirely new IP and get roasted for making "Anthem 2.0"
- Address fanbase discontent with an ME3 ending related title, which will catch everyone by surprise and will afford you a very welcome pause by the media
I can't see the two first options going well, for the aforementioned reasons and I would like it even less if I would get to see myself proven right.
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Post by guanxi on May 13, 2019 16:28:17 GMT
Both settings are essentially done in their current incarnations... it’s almost garunteed at this point whichever one they go with will be fundamentally rebooted and disconnected from the series that proceeded it so in that sense choice of setting doesn’t matter. I think the Ancient aliens trope has been done too many times in this series already. Just give us a personal story with meaningful choice that impact our squads. No need for galaxy shaping consequences and don’t go overboard on the Joss Weddon-esque wacky dialogue just give us relatable believable characters and interpersonal conflict and we as a fan base are sold. Andromeda is already a blank slate to begin with as there is basically nothing from MEA worth salvaging so I would do like to see Andromeda done properly but as a brand it’s tainted so they would probably either stick a number or a subtitle on the end of it and hope general audiences don’t notice it’s essentially a second reboot in Andromeda. A reboot doesn’t mean retreading old ground of the previous failed reboot, advance the timeline considerably so that the setting is brimming with interring lore and internal politics and interesting settings that we have come to expect from this series and BioWare of old. Even if the gaming public forgets, do you think that the gaming media and clickbait youtubers are going to recede the chance to pile up their viewcounts, at a potential Andromeda 2 release? The memes will start preemptively. It's a death wish. Similarly, a new game, i.e. a non Andromeda related reboot, again, will be received with just a smidgeon less criticism. There is one thing that will give people pause, at this point and that is addressing the ME3 ending debacle. The way I see it, Bioware has three options:
- Make Andromeda 2/OT unrelated title and get roasted so hard, it will be macabre
- Drop ME and develop entirely new IP and get roasted for making "Anthem 2.0"
- Address fanbase discontent with an ME3 ending related title, which will catch everyone by surprise and will afford you a very welcome pause by the media
I can't see the two first options going well, for the aforementioned reasons and I would like it even less if I would get to see myself proven right.
The only surefire way to make sure your next game doesn’t become a giant meme is to not rely on the patented BioWare magic a third goddamn time
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 13, 2019 17:11:50 GMT
The only surefire way to make sure your next game doesn’t become a giant meme is to not rely on the patented BioWare magic a third goddamn time While true, I doubt they will be afforded the benefit of the doubt by the gaming media. You know how it is, gotta get those clicks, right? I mean, for Anthem they had to sow the doubt first, but this time around, it will be there already. Seriously, I can't think of a way they can sell people a game that won't be pre-memed, at this point, unless it's an unlikely announcement that will blow everyone away. And after Andromeda, it is a safe bet to expect them to soft reboot Mass Effect, yet again and hope people won't care that it's the second time Bioware had to run away from themselves in this franchise. I mean, that does not instill a lot of confidence, to begin with and the youtubers certainly won't help with that. Unfortunately, a good game alone won't be enough this time around.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 13, 2019 21:06:46 GMT
Both settings are essentially done in their current incarnations... it’s almost garunteed at this point whichever one they go with will be fundamentally rebooted and disconnected from the series that proceeded it so in that sense choice of setting doesn’t matter. I think the Ancient aliens trope has been done too many times in this series already. Just give us a personal story with meaningful choice that impact our squads. No need for galaxy shaping consequences and don’t go overboard on the Joss Weddon-esque wacky dialogue just give us relatable believable characters and interpersonal conflict and we as a fan base are sold. Andromeda is already a blank slate to begin with as there is basically nothing from MEA worth salvaging so I would do like to see Andromeda done properly but as a brand it’s tainted so they would probably either stick a number or a subtitle on the end of it and hope general audiences don’t notice it’s essentially a second reboot in Andromeda. A reboot doesn’t mean retreading old ground of the previous failed reboot, advance the timeline considerably so that the setting is brimming with interring lore and internal politics and interesting settings that we have come to expect from this series and BioWare of old. Even if the gaming public forgets, do you think that the gaming media and clickbait youtubers are going to recede the chance to pile up their viewcounts, at a potential Andromeda 2 release? The memes will start preemptively. It's a death wish. Similarly, a new game, i.e. a non Andromeda related reboot, again, will be received with just a smidgeon less criticism. There is one thing that will give people pause, at this point and that is addressing the ME3 ending debacle. The way I see it, Bioware has three options:
- Make Andromeda 2/OT unrelated title and get roasted so hard, it will be macabre
- Drop ME and develop entirely new IP and get roasted for making "Anthem 2.0"
- Address fanbase discontent with an ME3 ending related title, which will catch everyone by surprise and will afford you a very welcome pause by the media
I can't see the two first options going well, for the aforementioned reasons and I would like it even less if I would get to see myself proven right.
Personally I think all options are doomed to vitriol by a now jaded fanbase, but BioWare biting the bullet and just picking the most popular ending as the jumping point would probably be the safest bet.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 14, 2019 13:36:50 GMT
Personally I think all options are doomed to vitriol by a now jaded fanbase, but BioWare biting the bullet and just picking the most popular ending as the jumping point would probably be the safest bet The safest bet would be that they avoid confronting their past, yet again and reboot ME once more, only it's not a reboot, but a jump to Andromeda 200-300 years in the future and we're just like the Milky Way now, yaaaay. But without green circuitry, woo! This is what I expect and I am not going to lie, I am not excited for the prospect.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 14, 2019 17:13:20 GMT
Personally I think all options are doomed to vitriol by a now jaded fanbase, but BioWare biting the bullet and just picking the most popular ending as the jumping point would probably be the safest bet The safest bet would be that they avoid confronting their past, yet again and reboot ME once more, only it's not a reboot, but a jump to Andromeda 200-300 years in the future and we're just like the Milky Way now, yaaaay. But without green circuitry, woo! This is what I expect and I am not going to lie, I am not excited for the prospect. At this point I just want more RPG set in space action. I’m not too attached to any particular setting; I just want to fight monsters and woo NPC’s at my leisure. There’s not a whole lot out there that offers that lol
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 14, 2019 17:35:05 GMT
At this point I just want more RPG set in space action. I’m not too attached to any particular setting; I just want to fight monsters and woo NPC’s at my leisure. There’s not a whole lot out there that offers that lol I'm not going to take a ride just for the ride's sake. I've had that, plenty of times and I just want something more engaging and something that really catches my fancy. I don't care if it's setting is sci-fi/medieval/modern. Whether one setting has more chances over the other to produce something I like is debatable, but not a guarantee. If anything, certain continuous recent failures have managed to dissociate me from any sort of hype over upcoming products, since I know that they will not deliver on the things I like, to the degree I'd be content with, for the price I'm being asked for.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 14, 2019 17:41:16 GMT
I was pissed about jack being almost non existent in ME3 but There were alot of characters so I get it. Jack, Miranda, Samara, Thane, Grunt, Jacob, they all got the shaft. Not to mention the insult of buying Kasumi's DLC, having invested the extra cash and her character being figuratively non-existent. At least Zaeed was free day 1 DLC that you got for just buying the game, so him barely being there in ME3 wasn't as egregious, but still, goddamn. A lot of people argue that "these characters are done, their arcs are finished" and to that I just have to wonder about all their plot points and subtle characterization hints that were left unexplored and swept under the rug in ME3, because Bioware was behind schedule and rushing to get the game released in a round about 16 month development cycle, probably even less than that. How is that finished? I can still see the lump on the rug, where you hid all these things under. It's a mountain in the middle of the room, with a rug thrown over it and furniture nailed down on its four edges, to keep it taut over the overflowing plot points. Meanwhile, some in the fanbase are poking at it, while others are tearing at the seams and poor old Bioware is screaming "stop, there's nothing there, that's the old living room, come see the new one, instead" And this all would have been great, if the new one was filled with fine furniture and an expensive chandelier, a door that led to an elevated patio with an infinity pool that oversaw the Caribbean. Nobody would have batted an eye at that, but instead, the new one is three scraps of carpet, a stand and a sofa that the dog chewed through. There's also an attempt at a fireplace, but they couldn't finish it, so to fix it, they dug a hole in the ground and threw the firewood there. How's that for closure? Seriously, has any other franchise been more mismanaged than Mass Effect, at this point? Well, I guess there's Sonic. Not like Bioware didn't contribute there as well. Well, I’d say that a big part of the problem really starts with ME2. There’s heavy follower glut, made worse with the fact that you can kill all but one to survive to the next game. With regards to Kasumi and Zaeed, I’m not sure if it’s particularly reasonable to have greater expectations for significant character content, when they’re essentially add-ons for a separate game. If anything, the previous game deserves more criticism here for having them feel practically non-existent outside of their loyalty missions. Heck, there are zero conversations with Zaeed or Kasumi aboard the Normandy at any point in the game. There’s so much to juggle, it’s no surprise that the only ones to get any meaningful content are the ones guaranteed to survive or the old favorites carried over since ME1.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 14, 2019 18:24:07 GMT
There’s heavy follower glut, made worse with the fact that you can kill all but one to survive to the next game So the problem is basically delivering on the things they alluded to. So we should have no expectations. I disagree with that. I’m not sure if it’s particularly reasonable to have greater expectations for significant character content, when they’re essentially add-ons for a separate game. I think you're asking too much, monetarily, of people and you're dismissing the fact that you purchased a product that you paid extra, with the logical expectation that something more would come out of it. I am referring specifically to Kasumi here. As I said, Zaeed was free DLC and it was an incentive to just buy the game, I wouldn't have that high expectations there. There’s so much to juggle, it’s no surprise that the only ones to get any meaningful content are the ones guaranteed to survive or the old favorites carried over since ME1. Basically, our fault for having expectations. Again. That is not a good marketing plan.
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