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Post by Superhik on Mar 21, 2019 21:12:45 GMT
Nope. There are a ton of even player mods that offer something more interesting and unique. And if you just want some sci fi TPS fun: why would you choose this over M3MP? Developers trying something different can be a good thing, but this feels half baked and lacking it's own identity. Looter shooter ( with barely any loot and pointless grind), set in open world ( chock full of loading screens, lifeless and empty), with bland story ( &characters...that would've been decent had it been more developed: or a Single Player rpg) No one is going to be talking about this game, ten years from now. Bioware has too many poor leads with no clue what they want their game to be, and EA downsizing the studio could actually be a good thing.
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Post by XCPTNL on Mar 21, 2019 22:35:17 GMT
...and I doubt the game will be worth $60-80 for quite some time, if at all. I paid 15€ for 1 month of Origin Premier Access and then bought the game not directly on Origin for around 40€. So yeah, basically you can get it for this or maybe even less already. It's also part of a nvidia graphic cards bundle and people might be giving it away for cheap because I think this offer is only valid for a few more days. But as far as I'm aware it's a bit complicated to register for a copy of the game that is part of the bundle. Anyways... I guess if you aren't somehow hooked to at least some crucial elements of the game there is no hurry and you can keep watching how the game develops, take a look at patch notes and maybe come back at a later point if the game is still around which I do believe right now judging from the news about Anthem being Bioware's second most successful game launch after ME3 despite all the issues. So even if the number of active players has gone down recently I think some might take a look at the game later again if they already bought it anyways.
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Post by Beerfish on Mar 21, 2019 22:45:37 GMT
Bought it but too early to say if i got my monies worth or not
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Post by tatarforas on Mar 22, 2019 17:50:20 GMT
I've yet to buy it, and after the rocky launch I don't think I'll be getting this game until a complete edition comes out. Feels like Destiny all over again. Complete edition? Yep, from what my friends and reviews have told me, this game suffers from a lack of quality endgame content in addition to having a relatively short and somewhat boring campaign. Literally the same issues I had with the first Destiny game, I'm not interested in making the same mistake so I'll wait until the inevitable complete/gold/ultimate edition of the game.
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Post by correctamundo on Mar 22, 2019 18:11:21 GMT
Complete edition? Yep, from what my friends and reviews have told me, this game suffers from a lack of quality endgame content in addition to having a relatively short and somewhat boring campaign. Literally the same issues I had with the first Destiny game, I'm not interested in making the same mistake so I'll wait until the inevitable complete/gold/ultimate edition of the game. There will not be any paid dlcs or expansions. Legion of Dawn edition is as complete as it gets.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 22, 2019 19:28:17 GMT
Yep, from what my friends and reviews have told me, this game suffers from a lack of quality endgame content in addition to having a relatively short and somewhat boring campaign. Literally the same issues I had with the first Destiny game, I'm not interested in making the same mistake so I'll wait until the inevitable complete/gold/ultimate edition of the game. There will not be any paid dlcs or expansions. Legion of Dawn edition is as complete as it gets. Except for all the free content coming I guess. Waiting until it’s more complete seems reasonable.
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Post by correctamundo on Mar 22, 2019 19:45:54 GMT
There will not be any paid dlcs or expansions. Legion of Dawn edition is as complete as it gets. Except for all the free content coming I guess. Waiting until it’s more complete seems reasonable. Sure but all the future content is already included in the current edition. Pay now or pay later it's the same edition. They will keep building, maybe ten years? Supposedly then we have at long last the complete game. But if you wait for that you miss out on all events that are time limited. 😎
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 22, 2019 21:11:03 GMT
Except for all the free content coming I guess. Waiting until it’s more complete seems reasonable. Sure but all the future content is already included in the current edition. Pay now or pay later it's the same edition. They will keep building, maybe ten years? Supposedly then we have at long last the complete game. But if you wait for that you miss out on all events that are time limited. 😎 Events? Like ash titans spawning in open world? Meh, no story and repeatable. I dont see the downside in missing that?
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Post by correctamundo on Mar 22, 2019 21:47:53 GMT
Sure but all the future content is already included in the current edition. Pay now or pay later it's the same edition. They will keep building, maybe ten years? Supposedly then we have at long last the complete game. But if you wait for that you miss out on all events that are time limited. 😎 Events? Like ash titans spawning in open world? Meh, no story and repeatable. I dont see the downside in missing that? Maybe, maybe not. It's still the same edition. Waiting doesn't get you more. 😎
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Post by bshep on Mar 23, 2019 9:56:06 GMT
Events? Like ash titans spawning in open world? Meh, no story and repeatable. I dont see the downside in missing that? Maybe, maybe not. It's still the same edition. Waiting doesn't get you more. 😎 If i am not wrong, taking the example of SW:TOR events are repeatable every few months but there are some rewards that only happened to the people who were there the first time.
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Post by correctamundo on Mar 23, 2019 10:12:43 GMT
Maybe, maybe not. It's still the same edition. Waiting doesn't get you more. 😎 If i am not wrong, taking the example of SW:TOR events are repeatable every few months but there are some rewards that only happened to the people who were there the first time. World events surely will be reapeatble but how will they handle the cataclysm? If they change the world, they change the world. Time will tell how this will work out.
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Post by legbamel on Mar 23, 2019 23:00:43 GMT
We bought the Legion of Dawn edition. Four people have played it almost daily for a month, generally three or four hours each thanks to varying schedules. Hell, yes, we got our money's worth.
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Post by monkeylungs on Mar 24, 2019 3:46:12 GMT
Bought it, regret it. I don't hate the idea, I just hate how technically inept the game is. It is the MOST technically frustrating title I have ever played. I have never had a game crash so often in my entire history of gaming ... I am 43. This game is a travesty of technical incompetence.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 24, 2019 6:20:17 GMT
Except for all the free content coming I guess. Waiting until it’s more complete seems reasonable. Sure but all the future content is already included in the current edition. Pay now or pay later it's the same edition. They will keep building, maybe ten years? Supposedly then we have at long last the complete game. But if you wait for that you miss out on all events that are time limited. 😎 What would anybody really miss, in this regard? More loot? More loot. Who cares? ... Special banner for Halloweeny Javeliny? Welp, there's always next year (GAAS with dat long term plan) ... Gated story content, or putting new content and gating it behind a YOU HAVE TO PLAY WHEN WE WANT YOU TO wall? Get a damned job. ... All of your arguments ignore that what people wouldn't miss by waiting is money in their pocket, as no matter what by waiting they will spend less than you did and if the game isn't full of gated bullshit that divides the playerbase (hint, you already know it's not) then they get the best quality experience for their money by waiting until the devs have hammered out some of the derp that is Bio-engineered into the game's DNA.
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Post by LRX/SRT17 on Mar 24, 2019 10:23:56 GMT
Hell no. This is coming from someone who poured over 1200 dollars on me3 (all dlcs, 3 copies on ps3, two copies on xbox, 1 copy on PC and bought packs with real money after maxing out manifests just to say thank you bioware).
Felt betrayed after andromeda, and only pre-ordered Anthem after learning that the b-team was responsible for making andromeda. Never again.
Me3 was buggy at launch with very little content but the combat was deep and fun to master.it hooked up players, IMO.
After 50 hours, IMO, we have the same situation with Anthem but without the hook; its combat is generic and gameplay is boring; I'm not sure how it can hold on to its playerbase.
For those lucky ones who haven't bought it but are considering it, Better off buy it later when it's more stable and has more content for a cheaper price.
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Post by abaris on Mar 24, 2019 13:21:23 GMT
I'm not buying and this isn't meant as a judgment on quality. I'm simply not into any kind of loot shooter or multiplayer.
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 24, 2019 14:05:04 GMT
People are starting to talk/hope about Anthem 2, so who knows. BioWare has been pretty clear that there is no plan for an 'Anthem 2', they will build upon the world they have started with.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 24, 2019 15:15:00 GMT
After 50 hours, IMO, we have the same situation with Anthem but without the hook; its combat is generic and gameplay is boring; I'm not sure how it can hold on to its playerbase. This! ME3MP was a success for many reasons, but the primary one is that there was a massive playerbase already invested in the world. The hook was massive. I have read people here saying, "Anthem is just ME3MP, The Game". This ignores the fact that ME3MP had years of player interest behind it; it also ignores that some people (like me) only started playing the MP because they didn't want to leave the ME universe yet, even though they also didn't want to replay ME3 because *reasons. I only invested 3000+ hours in 3MP for this reason; despite the awesome community I wouldn't have cared otherwise. Anthem has no "hook" like that, just gameplay. If Anthem can retain players, it will be a winner. Comparing ME3MP to this game is apples/oranges in a huge way - despite any similarities they are not comparable.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Mar 24, 2019 15:43:00 GMT
After 50 hours, IMO, we have the same situation with Anthem but without the hook; its combat is generic and gameplay is boring; I'm not sure how it can hold on to its playerbase. This! ME3MP was a success for many reasons, but the primary one is that there was a massive playerbase already invested in the world. The hook was massive. I have read people here saying, "Anthem is just ME3MP, The Game". This ignores the fact that ME3MP had years of player interest behind it; it also ignores that some people (like me) only started playing the MP because they didn't want to leave the ME universe yet, even though they also didn't want to replay ME3 because *reasons. I only invested 3000+ hours in 3MP for this reason; despite the awesome community I wouldn't have cared otherwise. Anthem has no "hook" like that, just gameplay. If Anthem can retain players, it will be a winner. Comparing ME3MP to this game is apples/oranges in a huge way - despite any similarities they are not comparable. They are very much comparable, if you remove all of the emotional baggage/investment. If anything, realistically, ME3MP is even more bland than Anthem mechanically speaking. It has one mode, Horde. You do one thing, kill the waves. It's easy to say ME3MP is different because people were "invested", after said mode came out after players had 5 years to become invested. Anthem has been out for 1 month. If you truly think MEMP would have been anywhere near as popular if it was in ME1, one month post launch? I would say you are sadly mistaken.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 24, 2019 15:47:56 GMT
This! ME3MP was a success for many reasons, but the primary one is that there was a massive playerbase already invested in the world. The hook was massive. I have read people here saying, "Anthem is just ME3MP, The Game". This ignores the fact that ME3MP had years of player interest behind it; it also ignores that some people (like me) only started playing the MP because they didn't want to leave the ME universe yet, even though they also didn't want to replay ME3 because *reasons. I only invested 3000+ hours in 3MP for this reason; despite the awesome community I wouldn't have cared otherwise. Anthem has no "hook" like that, just gameplay. If Anthem can retain players, it will be a winner. Comparing ME3MP to this game is apples/oranges in a huge way - despite any similarities they are not comparable. They are very much comparable, if you remove all of the emotional baggage/investment. If anything, realistically, ME3MP is even more bland than Anthem mechanically speaking. It has one mode, Horde. You do one thing, kill the waves. It's easy to say ME3MP is different because people were "invested", after said mode came out after players had 5 years to become invested. Anthem has been out for 1 month. If you truly think MEMP would have been anywhere near as popular if it was in ME1, one month post launch? I would say you are sadly mistaken. Huh? I implied and certainly intended that only because it was an attachment to a well-established series and because of emotional baggage, did it have instant AND long-term investment. I think you somehow completely misunderstood my post? As for ME3MP being mechanically bland compared to Anthem... Uh, huh huh huh... Ok.
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Post by Sartoz on Mar 24, 2019 15:57:25 GMT
This! ME3MP was a success for many reasons, but the primary one is that there was a massive playerbase already invested in the world. The hook was massive. I have read people here saying, "Anthem is just ME3MP, The Game". This ignores the fact that ME3MP had years of player interest behind it; it also ignores that some people (like me) only started playing the MP because they didn't want to leave the ME universe yet, even though they also didn't want to replay ME3 because *reasons. I only invested 3000+ hours in 3MP for this reason; despite the awesome community I wouldn't have cared otherwise. Anthem has no "hook" like that, just gameplay. If Anthem can retain players, it will be a winner. Comparing ME3MP to this game is apples/oranges in a huge way - despite any similarities they are not comparable. They are very much comparable, if you remove all of the emotional baggage/investment. If anything, realistically, ME3MP is even more bland than Anthem mechanically speaking. It has one mode, Horde. You do one thing, kill the waves. It's easy to say ME3MP is different because people were "invested", after said mode came out after players had 5 years to become invested. Anthem has been out for 1 month. If you truly think MEMP would have been anywhere near as popular if it was in ME1, one month post launch? I would say you are sadly mistaken.
Indeed.
ME3MP was an instant success. Bland? absolutely not! DAIMP? I'm glad it stayed in the shadows. MEAMP? somewhat to fast for my tastes but I adapted.
AnthemMP? I'll wait until it goes on sale.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Mar 24, 2019 16:35:26 GMT
They are very much comparable, if you remove all of the emotional baggage/investment. If anything, realistically, ME3MP is even more bland than Anthem mechanically speaking. It has one mode, Horde. You do one thing, kill the waves. It's easy to say ME3MP is different because people were "invested", after said mode came out after players had 5 years to become invested. Anthem has been out for 1 month. If you truly think MEMP would have been anywhere near as popular if it was in ME1, one month post launch? I would say you are sadly mistaken. Huh? I implied and certainly intended that only because it was an attachment to a well-established series and because of emotional baggage, did it have instant AND long-term investment. I think you somehow completely misunderstood my post? As for ME3MP being mechanically bland compared to Anthem... Uh, huh huh huh... Ok. No, I understood exactly your point, my point is, I don't believe "emotional investment" is a valid indicator of worth, quality or anything else. Bioware games have never been mechanically brilliant. Combat and such has historically been a weakpoint for the studio, hence their focus on it as the ME series progressed, with the results being what they are, weather they are good or bad is up to each player. Did I enjoy ME3MP? Of course I did, but it was entirely because it was ME, and I had 5 years of emotional investment. IMO, ME3MP, without that, is a shallow, lackluster experience. Much like Anthems current end game experience. The difference is, I actually find Anthems minute to minute gameplay a hundred times more enjoyable than MEMP.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 24, 2019 16:53:00 GMT
^^^ hmm somehow I think we are missing each other still, but I understand more of your POV I think.
My point was this: I am not their target audience for this game, and never would have played ME3MP at all if not for ME. They are going after an entirely new crowd, which can be a good thing.
The crowd they are going after happens to be a pretty fickle bunch that hops from one game to the next. You may be enjoying the moment to moment gameplay more than your 3MP experience, but you also feel the endgame is lacking in some ways.
How will Anthem retain your interest? Will it be entirely content driven? Will you go play other things and then when there is new Anthem content, jump back into the fray? That is how WoW works; it was my impression BioWare was trying to retain their players longer and more often than just at content release?
Edit: I agree emotional attachment has zero relation to quality. The point is exactly that it has much to do with player retention, regardless of quality.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 24, 2019 17:04:56 GMT
Hell no. This is coming from someone who poured over 1200 dollars on me3 (all dlcs, 3 copies on ps3, two copies on xbox, 1 copy on PC and bought packs with real money after maxing out manifests just to say thank you bioware). Ye gods. How many packs did you buy?
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March 2017
therevanchist25
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem
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Post by therevanchist25 on Mar 24, 2019 18:14:03 GMT
^^^ hmm somehow I think we are missing each other still, but I understand more of your POV I think. My point was this: I am not their target audience for this game, and never would have played ME3MP at all if not for ME. They are going after an entirely new crowd, which can be a good thing. The crowd they are going after happens to be a pretty fickle bunch that hops from one game to the next. You may be enjoying the moment to moment gameplay more than your 3MP experience, but you also feel the endgame is lacking in some ways. How will Anthem retain your interest? Will it be entirely content driven? Will you go play other things and then when there is new Anthem content, jump back into the fray? That is how WoW works; it was my impression BioWare was trying to retain their players longer and more often than just at content release? Edit: I agree emotional attachment has zero relation to quality. The point is exactly that it has much to do with player retention, regardless of quality. Well, myself personally? You are speaking to someone who spent 22,000 hours over the course of 5 years on WoW. I would run the same Naxxramus raid every week for six months, trying to get that one stupid dagger I need, that drops off 1 boss halfway through that had a 5% chance of dropping, and usually there was other casters who also needed it, so even if it drops you might not get it. Did I get sick of doing that? Bet your ass I did. But I wanted that freaking dagger lol. Anthem, and really the looter shooter genre as a whole, along with MMOs in a lot of ways, requires a mentality a lot of western gamers just don't have. The patience to tolerate never ending grind. East Asian MMOs are infamous for being the most grindy games in existance, and gamers over there actually PREFER grind over quest content, for the life of me idk why, but they do. For example I once tried an eastern MMO called Jade Dynasty. Good god, I couldn't even begin to understand why people played it. There was like 1 quest every 5 levels. The rest of the time, you had to grind mobs to lvl up. So far with Anthem, I've simply reduced the amount of hours I play it per week to avoid burnout, which is a problem I always had in MMOs. That way, when I do finally play it, about 2 or 3 times a week right now, I can enjoy the minute to minute gameplay loop while trying to get loot thats actually useful.
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