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Post by Iddy on Apr 2, 2019 18:23:18 GMT
It just makes no sense.
"But what marks you as touched, what you flail at rifts, I crafted to assault the very heavens."
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 2, 2019 18:24:26 GMT
He is talking about the mark.
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Post by Iddy on Apr 2, 2019 18:37:28 GMT
He is talking about the mark. Not his creation either.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 2, 2019 18:40:16 GMT
He is talking about the mark. Not his creation either. No, but he was actually talking about the mark. Guy is just your classic, typical ego tripping badguy.
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Post by Iddy on Apr 2, 2019 18:48:24 GMT
No, but he was actually talking about the mark. Guy is just your classic, typical ego tripping badguy. That doesn't explain why did he think it was his work.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 2, 2019 18:53:16 GMT
No, but he was actually talking about the mark. Guy is just your classic, typical ego tripping badguy. That doesn't explain why did he think it was his work. *sigh* Big, Red and Evil sees himself as a being that will ascend into godhood. So, he thinks that everything his does is his own making, even if it really is not. He's the REAL thief in the story, not the Inquisitor.
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Post by Iddy on Apr 2, 2019 18:58:11 GMT
That doesn't explain why did he think it was his work. *sigh* Big, Red and Evil sees himself as a being that will ascend into godhood. So, he thinks that everything his does is his own making, even if it really is not. He's the REAL thief in the story, not the Inquisitor. Mmm, I'm not quite sure what you mean. Do you mind explaining again?
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 2, 2019 18:59:56 GMT
*sigh* Big, Red and Evil sees himself as a being that will ascend into godhood. So, he thinks that everything his does is his own making, even if it really is not. He's the REAL thief in the story, not the Inquisitor. Mmm, I'm not quite sure what you mean. Do you mind explaining again? Don't make me Thanos snap you... 😒
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Post by thats1evildude on Apr 2, 2019 19:04:18 GMT
This is kind of like the Patrick Star meme:
Iddy: But Corypheus didn't create the Anchor. Batpool: Right, he didn't. But to admit that is to admit fault, so he believes that he created the Anchor. Iddy: But Corypheus didn't create the Anchor. Batpool: OK, you know that Corypheus denies his part in creating the darkspawn, correct? Iddy: Yep. Batpool: And you acknowledge that isn't true, and Corypheus definitely did help create the darkspawn, right? Iddy: Sure. Batpool: So if he's willing to deny his part in creating the darkspawn, maybe he is also so prideful that he credits himself for creating the Anchor, even though he didn't? Iddy: That makes sense to me. Batpool: Then you must see that he's falsely claiming credit for creating the Anchor, attributing more importance to his actions than there actually is. Iddy: But Corypheus didn't create the Anchor.
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Post by Iddy on Apr 2, 2019 19:19:03 GMT
This is kind of like the Patrick Star meme:
Iddy: But Corypheus didn't create the Anchor. Batpool: Right, he didn't. But he's blindly arrogant to his faults, so he believes that he created the Anchor. Iddy: But Corypheus didn't create the Anchor. Batpool: OK, you know that Corypheus denies his part in creating the darkspawn, correct? Iddy: Yep. Batpool: And you acknowledge that isn't true, and Corypheus definitely did help create the darkspawn, right? Iddy: Sure. Batpool: So if he's willing to deny his part in creating the darkspawn, maybe he is also so blindly arrogant that he is taking credit for creating the Anchor, even though he didn't? Iddy: That makes sense to me. Batpool: Then you must see that he's falsely claiming credit for creating the Anchor, attributing more importance to his actions than there actually is. Iddy: But Corypheus didn't create the Anchor. That's giving Batpool a lot more credit than is due. All he said was "hurr durr Corypheus is cocky". But since there clearly is no chance this thread will get a serious (and polite) answer, we might as well meme away. Or use it for rule 34 pics. I'm open for ideas.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Apr 2, 2019 19:25:50 GMT
Tevinter has a long history of taking elven magic and claiming it as their own. This is just more of the same.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 2, 2019 19:26:38 GMT
This is kind of like the Patrick Star meme:
Iddy: But Corypheus didn't create the Anchor. Batpool: Right, he didn't. But he's blindly arrogant to his faults, so he believes that he created the Anchor. Iddy: But Corypheus didn't create the Anchor. Batpool: OK, you know that Corypheus denies his part in creating the darkspawn, correct? Iddy: Yep. Batpool: And you acknowledge that isn't true, and Corypheus definitely did help create the darkspawn, right? Iddy: Sure. Batpool: So if he's willing to deny his part in creating the darkspawn, maybe he is also so blindly arrogant that he is taking credit for creating the Anchor, even though he didn't? Iddy: That makes sense to me. Batpool: Then you must see that he's falsely claiming credit for creating the Anchor, attributing more importance to his actions than there actually is. Iddy: But Corypheus didn't create the Anchor. That's giving Batpool a lot more credit than is due. All he said was "hurr durr Corypheus is cocky". But since there clearly is no chance this thread will get even one serious answer, we might as well meme away. Or use it for rule 34 pics. I'm open for ideas. Err, because he is.... 😲 What answer do you want? Some made up shit about how "Ooooooh! His reasoning is beyond us to understand!" Because the simple answer is: That guy has his head shoved soo far up his own ass that he is getting high on his own farts.
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Post by Blaze on Apr 3, 2019 6:35:06 GMT
he did create the anchor using the orb. he was creating a ritual meant to unlock the orb using the divine when the inquisitor interrupted him and touched the orb, when the orb is touched the mark (aka the anchor corypheus meant for himself) was created on the inquisitor hand. so while he didn't create the orb he did use the orb to create the anchor aka the mark.
hope that helps clarify things.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 3, 2019 12:30:57 GMT
No, but he was actually talking about the mark. Guy is just your classic, typical ego tripping badguy. That doesn't explain why did he think it was his work. Because the spell he was casting gaveyou the mark when you interrupted him that's why he says it. He was planning t otake the mark for himself and desrtoy Thedas with it something which had you not stoped him he'd have succeeded at.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 3, 2019 13:11:56 GMT
That doesn't explain why did he think it was his work. Because the spell he was casting gaveyou the mark when you interrupted him that's why he says it. He was planning t otake the mark for himself and desrtoy Thedas with it something which had you not stoped him he'd have succeeded at. Solas was a far more compelling villain then Tall, Red and Ugly. But they kinda messed up a bit when he didn't kill the Inquisitor in Trespasser.
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Post by Blaze on Apr 3, 2019 19:04:15 GMT
Because the spell he was casting gaveyou the mark when you interrupted him that's why he says it. He was planning t otake the mark for himself and desrtoy Thedas with it something which had you not stoped him he'd have succeeded at. Solas was a far more compelling villain then Tall, Red and Ugly. But they kinda messed up a bit when he didn't kill the Inquisitor in Trespasser.not really, making the inquisitor a martyr would not benefit him, aside from the risk of it rallying people against solas, it will cause pain and suffering to people and solas want to execute his plan in a way that will cause the least amount of pain. and what i was describing specifically applied to the scenario in which solas and the inquisitor are not friends/lovers, since in those cases he has other reasons not to kill the inquisitor.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 3, 2019 19:16:13 GMT
Solas was a far more compelling villain then Tall, Red and Ugly. But they kinda messed up a bit when he didn't kill the Inquisitor in Trespasser.not really, making the inquisitor a martyr would not benefit him, aside from the risk of it rallying people against solas, it will cause pain and suffering to people and solas want to execute his plan in a way that will cause the least amount of pain. and what i was describing specifically applied to the scenario in which solas and the inquisitor are not friends/lovers, since in those cases he has other reasons not to kill the inquisitor. But what if he made it look like the qunari were the one who did it (after all, they're already in the spotlight for trying to blow up the Winter Palace).
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Post by gervaise21 on Apr 3, 2019 19:51:22 GMT
"But what marks you as touched, what you flail at rifts, I crafted to assault the very heavens." The orb wasn't just a power source, it also gave knowledge. There is a codex entry, allegedly written by Samson I seem to recall, that seems to explain this in the Arbor Wilds. They asked him how he knew certain things and he said it was the orb. This is how he knows that the vallaslin are slave markings. This is how he knows stuff about the origins of the Qunari. So the orb had been building up power for millennia. It gave him the knowledge of how to unlock it and create the anchor that would allow him to stay in the Fade once he was there, unlike the previous time when he was simply coughed out again. As someone has already mentioned, part way through his ritual the PC interrupts him, Justinia knocks the orb from his grasp and the PC touching it seemed to bestow the mark on them and simultaneously unlocked the orb. Of course there are plot holes to this. Why wasn't the PC destroyed? Apparently by being automatically shunted into the Fade. Even if the PC hadn't been there, presumably Corypheus would have survived by being shunted into the Fade as well regardless of his regeneration ability. Yet Solas maintains he expected him to be destroyed by the explosion and it was only his regeneration ability that saved him. It would seem it was the releasing of the orb's power that caused the initial hole in the sky, which we later closed. Yet apparently at the end, even though much of its power must have been expended the first time and he did not have the anchor/key, Corypheus was able to open up another rift and levitate an entire mountain. Solas said that had Corypheus been destroyed first time round, he would have used the orb and anchor to enter the Fade. They seemed to go together.
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Post by gervaise21 on Apr 3, 2019 19:58:29 GMT
OK, you know that Corypheus denies his part in creating the darkspawn, correct? That is not a lie. Corypheus did not create the darkspawn. He quite clearly states they didn't bring darkness into the world but discovered it. Back in DA2 he complains to Dumat that they thought they were going to find a Golden City but it was already black. Regardless of what the Chantry and Mother Giselle maintain, it is clear that Corypheus was telling the truth about this. The ancient thaig of DA2 pre-dated modern dwarves and yet it contained red lyrium which is infected with the Blight. The Magisters Sidereal were of the era of the modern dwarves. Therefore it is clear that the taint and thus presumably the darkspawn were around long before the assault on the Golden/Black city. We also have the various codices from the Temple of Mythal and Trespasser that also seem to suggest that it was far more likely the work of the ancient elves. Plus Solas knows its origins, he just doesn't choose to divulge his information.
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Post by Blaze on Apr 4, 2019 14:28:13 GMT
not really, making the inquisitor a martyr would not benefit him, aside from the risk of it rallying people against solas, it will cause pain and suffering to people and solas want to execute his plan in a way that will cause the least amount of pain. and what i was describing specifically applied to the scenario in which solas and the inquisitor are not friends/lovers, since in those cases he has other reasons not to kill the inquisitor. But what if he made it look like the qunari were the one who did it (after all, they're already in the spotlight for trying to blow up the Winter Palace). people would still be in pain for the loss of the inquisitor, they are a symbol of hope and salvation to many people in thedas.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 4, 2019 14:31:57 GMT
But what if he made it look like the qunari were the one who did it (after all, they're already in the spotlight for trying to blow up the Winter Palace). people would still be in pain for the loss of the inquisitor, they are a symbol of hope and salvation to many people in thedas. Aye, so they'll focus their attention on the qunari, while Solas does his thing without any interruptions.
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Post by Blaze on Apr 4, 2019 14:47:07 GMT
people would still be in pain for the loss of the inquisitor, they are a symbol of hope and salvation to many people in thedas. Aye, so they'll focus their attention on the qunari, while Solas does his thing without any interruptions. *sighs* you seem to be missing two points: 1) solas doesn't want to cause pain and suffering to anyone, he recognize that his plan will cause chaos but wants to minimize the amount of suffering to people as much as possible. he could've just let the qunari execute their plans, he gained nothing from leading the inquisition into unavailing the qunari plot, yet he did it anyway. 2) in the case the inquisitor was his friend/lover, obviously his not gonna kill them... to think solas would simply kill the inquisitor is a misunderstanding of the character. it's not that he's above it, it's just he only do it when it's the best solution. when he killed his agent in masked empire, he did so because that agent became a liability. PS: oh just realized a flow in your "blame the inquisitor's death on the qunari" idea. see thing is, leliana and her agents won't be easily fooled, not to mention the companions who heard vidasala exposing solas. fun fact about solas: he is really smart, he likely would have figured out that wouldn't work.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 4, 2019 14:56:36 GMT
Aye, so they'll focus their attention on the qunari, while Solas does his thing without any interruptions. *sighs* you seem to be missing two points: 1) solas doesn't want to cause pain and suffering to anyone, he recognize that his plan will cause chaos but wants to minimize the amount of suffering to people as much as possible. he could've just let the qunari execute their plans, he gained nothing from leading the inquisition into unavailing the qunari plot, yet he did it anyway. 2) in the case the inquisitor was his friend/lover, obviously his not gonna kill them... to think solas would simply kill the inquisitor is a misunderstanding of the character. it's not that he's above it, it's just he only do it when it's the best solution. when he killed his agent in masked empire, he did so because that agent became a liability. PS: oh just realized a flow in your "blame the inquisitor's death on the qunari" idea. see thing is, leliana and her agents won't be easily fooled, not to mention the companions who heard vidasala exposing solas. fun fact about solas: he is really smart, he likely would have figured out that wouldn't work. It would have been nice to have a villain who is both smart and strong. Mainly because BioWare’s villains seem to be copy and pasted from their other games (that's my own personal view). It gets kinda boring having to face the same type of villain over and over again.
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Post by Blaze on Apr 4, 2019 14:59:36 GMT
*sighs* you seem to be missing two points: 1) solas doesn't want to cause pain and suffering to anyone, he recognize that his plan will cause chaos but wants to minimize the amount of suffering to people as much as possible. he could've just let the qunari execute their plans, he gained nothing from leading the inquisition into unavailing the qunari plot, yet he did it anyway. 2) in the case the inquisitor was his friend/lover, obviously his not gonna kill them... to think solas would simply kill the inquisitor is a misunderstanding of the character. it's not that he's above it, it's just he only do it when it's the best solution. when he killed his agent in masked empire, he did so because that agent became a liability. PS: oh just realized a flow in your "blame the inquisitor's death on the qunari" idea. see thing is, leliana and her agents won't be easily fooled, not to mention the companions who heard vidasala exposing solas. fun fact about solas: he is really smart, he likely would have figured out that wouldn't work. It would have been nice to have a villain who is both smart and strong. Mainly because BioWare’s villains seem to be copy and pasted from their other games (that's my own personal view). It gets kinda boring having to face the same type of villain over and over again. well aside from being smart, he seem to be able to turn people to stone not to mention the stories about him turning into a giant wolf. so i think he does have a good combo of the both, and to further those qunalities he also seem to have morals. i think he may be the most interesting antagonist of a bioware's game =D
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 4, 2019 15:02:15 GMT
It would have been nice to have a villain who is both smart and strong. Mainly because BioWare’s villains seem to be copy and pasted from their other games (that's my own personal view). It gets kinda boring having to face the same type of villain over and over again. well aside from being smart, he seem to be able to turn people to stone not to mention the stories about him turning into a giant wolf. so i think he does have a good combo of the both, and to further those qunalities he also seem to have morals. i think he may be the most interesting antagonist of a bioware's game =D I hope you are right. Because it would be a shame if BioWare just reduced him to a Saren/Tall, Red and Ugly villain.
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