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Post by alanc9 on Apr 16, 2019 21:13:53 GMT
All that said if they add a bunch of content and such I think it would sell well too. So basically if they add more content to it (not just a few cut conversations) and have some way to import games then yeah it would sell well in my opinion. It would almost be worth it if content was added to allow both Ashley and Kaidan to survive Virmire. That was originally meant to be a possibility. However, that would require some minor overhauls to ME2 and big overhauls to ME3. I'd go in the other direction. ME already has too much of Shepard being able to get out of dilemmas for my taste.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 16, 2019 21:14:13 GMT
All that said if they add a bunch of content and such I think it would sell well too. So basically if they add more content to it (not just a few cut conversations) and have some way to import games then yeah it would sell well in my opinion. It would almost be worth it if content was added to allow both Ashley and Kaidan to survive Virmire. That was originally meant to be a possibility. However, that would require some minor overhauls to ME2 and big overhauls to ME3. It would not have been hard for both to survive Virnire. If the player has all 6 squadmates, just have the two not being used go get A/K while Shepard gets A/K. If all are not recruited, get the the two soldiers standing guard go get A/K.
Wouldn't have to change much for ME2. In the shuttle, Miranda asks questions. One is about A/K. The player chooses the one that remains while the other is reassigned to another unit. In ME3, the one that was reassigned, can be the one that Shepard faces during the coup while the other is not injured on Mars.
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Post by river82 on Apr 16, 2019 22:29:19 GMT
Sure I'll admit The Archon is a simple villain, but you know what? I miss those evil bastards who are just evil bastards type villains. I do occasionally want beat a villain who isn't "a fallen hero" or "misunderstood" or whatever bullshit the creators have said, and I have had just about my fill of it in most media. He has a simple plan: find Meridian and use to force everybody to submit to exaltation or he will use Meridian to destroy them. That is it. No fuss. No muss. Just a villain I want to see die before he does his ev il plan.You should check out Anthem, then. Just sayin'
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Post by clips7 on Apr 17, 2019 2:21:23 GMT
I'm kinda baffled that they are thinking up ideas for the next Mass Effect game...they need to focus on one issue at a time and right Anthem has some serious issues they need to address, the next Dragon Age in shrouded in mystery and the last Mass Effect game? Andromeda....was a very mediorce experience with boring characters and a boring storyline....it had its moments, but the journey overall was a flat one....
They can redeem themselves with a strong narrative and a darker storyline. I would even be happy with a story going back to Milky Way with Shep and crew and see how they are dealing with the after math of the Reaper threat, and have them deal with another threat (not universe wide like the Reapers, but maybe another alien entity looking to dominate the species of this galaxy while they are down and rebuilding.
I know some are tired of Sjep's journey, but after Andromeda, i would love to see Shep and the old crew again, but with writers that are capable and up to the task of delivering a strong narrative with a darker tone and a familiarity with past characters and their personalities. Andromeda was the very first Mass Effect game i ever fell asleep on.....never happened with ME2 & 3....games i've played countless times....
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 17, 2019 3:12:32 GMT
I'm kinda baffled that they are thinking up ideas for the next Mass Effect game...they need to focus on one issue at a time and right Anthem has some serious issues they need to address, the next Dragon Age in shrouded in mystery and the last Mass Effect game? Andromeda....was a very mediorce experience with boring characters and a boring storyline....it had its moments, but the journey overall was a flat one.... It's not like the skills to fix Anthem's issues and the skills to plot a new. ME are typically found in the same person.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Apr 17, 2019 8:11:40 GMT
I think that's an extreme stance. Then again, maybe so is mine, but I've tried to explain it throughout this thread as best as I can. Could you elaborate?
IMHO MEA is ME1 done right.
I'm of the same mind. I am at the moment playing ME1 again after 2,5 years of MEA, and I'm starting to think MEA is actually... the best ME game made now. I'm not completely sure yet, lets see when I finish ME1 (and probably continue straight to MEA as ME2 and ME3 leave bad taste to my memories of ME1 lets see) of what mind I'll be then. ME1 is still my nostalgic favourite and I like it A LOT.
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Post by wright1978 on Apr 17, 2019 9:04:10 GMT
It would almost be worth it if content was added to allow both Ashley and Kaidan to survive Virmire. That was originally meant to be a possibility. However, that would require some minor overhauls to ME2 and big overhauls to ME3. I'd go in the other direction. ME already has too much of Shepard being able to get out of dilemmas for my taste. On the whole i think the series gets the balance right. I wouldn't want them creating a save both scenario. If anything having the choice is artificial, it should be whoever you sent with distraction team with Kirrahe who dies.
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Post by clips7 on Apr 17, 2019 10:04:22 GMT
I'm kinda baffled that they are thinking up ideas for the next Mass Effect game...they need to focus on one issue at a time and right Anthem has some serious issues they need to address, the next Dragon Age in shrouded in mystery and the last Mass Effect game? Andromeda....was a very mediorce experience with boring characters and a boring storyline....it had its moments, but the journey overall was a flat one.... It's not like the skills to fix Anthem's issues and the skills to plot a new. ME are typically found in the same person. This is true, but going by past events, during the production of Andromeda there was alot of moving parts in terms of moving teams around, moving resources around to make sure Andromeda met its deadline. Looking at the history of Anthem, the production and development cycles felt very similar to Andromeda's production and launch. I just think Bioware needs to tighten up core business directives and gives their teams a sense of direction and clarity and address culture issues within the company itself before they even attempt looking at the next ME entry.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Apr 17, 2019 11:22:32 GMT
Well, there's a very big opinion piece there. One that I personally disagree with, but I am not interested in starting that debate again. I'm not even going to try to pretend that my opinion will sway you the other way. Other than that.
I have tried to like CDPR games but they aren't for me. This is the only thing I can agree with. But whether that is true for me, or not, is irrelevant. What matters is what the gaming public, casual and hardcore, think about Bioware in comparison to CDPR. And let me tell you, that image right now is not pretty for Bioware. If you make an Andromeda 2 pitch to them, they will laugh. CDPR's pitch for Cyberpunk has everyone asking for more. So what you're going to have to ask yourself is what can Bioware do to draw the best reaction possible out of the general audience, not just their own audience, because the latter has grown too small to be viable in EA's corporate environment.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 17, 2019 19:23:26 GMT
Role play, as in "role playing game". I thought that it was supposed to be some game series or something. Can't believe I didn't catch that. No worries. You're human, like the rest of us.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 17, 2019 23:51:05 GMT
I'm kinda baffled that they are thinking up ideas for the next Mass Effect game...they need to focus on one issue at a time and right Anthem has some serious issues they need to address, the next Dragon Age in shrouded in mystery and the last Mass Effect game? Andromeda....was a very mediorce experience with boring characters and a boring storyline....it had its moments, but the journey overall was a flat one.... They can redeem themselves with a strong narrative and a darker storyline. I would even be happy with a story going back to Milky Way with Shep and crew and see how they are dealing with the after math of the Reaper threat, and have them deal with another threat (not universe wide like the Reapers, but maybe another alien entity looking to dominate the species of this galaxy while they are down and rebuilding. I know some are tired of Sjep's journey, but after Andromeda, i would love to see Shep and the old crew again, but with writers that are capable and up to the task of delivering a strong narrative with a darker tone and a familiarity with past characters and their personalities. Andromeda was the very first Mass Effect game i ever fell asleep on.....never happened with ME2 & 3....games i've played countless times.... EXACTLY That is the idea I have been talking about with the milky way. The galaxy is in shambles and new threat like a hostile species shows up and takes advantage of the situation or is just war like and wants to fight because it's what they do. This would work and it wouldn't need to be a threat like the reapers since the reapers already wrecked the galaxy and made it weak for a new enemy.
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Post by melbella on Apr 18, 2019 0:51:13 GMT
If anything having the choice is artificial, it should be whoever you sent with distraction team with Kirrahe who dies. I actually thought this is what would happen in my first PT, which is why I sent Ashley with them. I also think if you decide to protect the bomb instead of go after the other squad that Kirrahe shouldn't survive either. It's a bit too convenient that he and at least some of his men survive regardless which Alliance member you decide to grab (so long as you help them as you go).
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Post by Sanunes on Apr 18, 2019 4:06:55 GMT
If they really want to redeem themselves, then they should do a hard remake of the Trilogy. Just like Capcom did with Resident Evil 2 and look how they received positive feedback. If BioWare can pull it off then there's hope for them yet. Resident Evil 2 and Mass Effect 1 are two drastically different games Resident Evil 2 was released approximately 20 years ago and like most survival horror games more about the mechanics then the story. So updating the mechanics of the game and keeping the story and elements of the game pretty close to the same works for it. Mass Effect 1 was released approximately 11 years ago and is more about the story instead of mechanics, if it was about the mechanics people would have not been praising the game the way they were. If it was remade like Resident Evil 2 the story structure would stay pretty close with a few tweaks and the combat would be overhauled. So do you really want BioWare to go back and overhaul the story which is the strong point of the game and what people liked to be like Resident Evil 2 where they updated the combat and systems which is what people championed about that game in 97? Capcom isn't BioWare either, I think BioWare is held to a much higher standard then Capcom is with their releases. I don't remember the same number of articles and outcries when Resident Evil 5 or 6 were released compared to when people don't get what they want from BioWare.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Apr 18, 2019 12:44:49 GMT
The galaxy is in shambles and new threat like a hostile species shows up and takes advantage of the situation or is just war like and wants to fight because it's what they do. Or maybe the Leviathans use their little indoctrination thingies to take control of factions within the existing alien races, in order to throw the remaining galactic forces into disarray, weaken them further, so they can rise to their perceived rightful place as rulers of the galaxy. Or yeah, a new alien species in on of the many systems whose relay wasn't activated and subsequently not destroyed in any way, that had ample time and resources to explore and subdue the unexplored parts of the galaxy and built a huge and powerful empire.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 18, 2019 15:22:46 GMT
The galaxy is in shambles and new threat like a hostile species shows up and takes advantage of the situation or is just war like and wants to fight because it's what they do. Or maybe the Leviathans use their little indoctrination thingies to take control of factions within the existing alien races, in order to throw the remaining galactic forces into disarray, weaken them further, so they can rise to their perceived rightful place as rulers of the galaxy. Or yeah, a new alien species in on of the many systems whose relay wasn't activated and subsequently not destroyed in any way, that had ample time and resources to explore and subdue the unexplored parts of the galaxy and built a huge and powerful empire. I've always though the Leviathan made the most sense for a follow up enemy. They're just sitting there! The entire reason the Catalyst was created was to stop synthetics from destroying organics because it interfered with the other races giving tribute. Once that problem is solved, the Leviathan should theoretically swoop in and attempt to regain control over the galaxy.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 18, 2019 15:32:42 GMT
Or maybe the Leviathans use their little indoctrination thingies to take control of factions within the existing alien races, in order to throw the remaining galactic forces into disarray, weaken them further, so they can rise to their perceived rightful place as rulers of the galaxy. Or yeah, a new alien species in on of the many systems whose relay wasn't activated and subsequently not destroyed in any way, that had ample time and resources to explore and subdue the unexplored parts of the galaxy and built a huge and powerful empire. I've always though the Leviathan made the most sense for a follow up enemy. They're just sitting there! The entire reason the Catalyst was created was to stop synthetics from destroying organics because it interfered with the other races giving tribute. Once that problem is solved, the Leviathan should theoretically swoop in and attempt to regain control over the galaxy. I could even find facing Leviathans in Andromeda acceptable. After all, they predate the mass relays, and have had a billion years' worth of experience running and hiding from the Reapers. Frankly, it should have been their tech that got us to another galaxy not "lol RESOURCES!"
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 18, 2019 15:49:40 GMT
I've always though the Leviathan made the most sense for a follow up enemy. They're just sitting there! The entire reason the Catalyst was created was to stop synthetics from destroying organics because it interfered with the other races giving tribute. Once that problem is solved, the Leviathan should theoretically swoop in and attempt to regain control over the galaxy. I could even find facing Leviathans in Andromeda acceptable. After all, they predate the mass relays, and have had a billion years' worth of experience running and hiding from the Reapers. Frankly, it should have been their tech that got us to another galaxy not "lol RESOURCES!" We only know where a few Leviathan were. It's entirely possible they traveled beyond the MW.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Apr 18, 2019 16:19:22 GMT
We only know where a few Leviathan were. It's entirely possible they traveled beyond the MW. To escape the Reapers? Maybe our galaxy isn't the only one that the Reapers harvested. Perhaps, even, the Reapers that we faced aren't the only Reapers around. Just the allocated force that was tasked with eradicating life in the Milky Way. Maybe, when no Reapers return from the Milky Way, another Reaper force will be tasked with picking up where they left off.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 18, 2019 16:26:40 GMT
We only know where a few Leviathan were. It's entirely possible they traveled beyond the MW. To escape the Reapers? Maybe our galaxy isn't the only one that the Reapers harvested. Perhaps, even, the Reapers that we faced aren't the only Reapers around. Just the allocated force that was tasked with eradicating life in the Milky Way. Maybe, when no Reapers return from the Milky Way, another Reaper force will be tasked with picking up where they left off. Perhaps the Kett is another solution the Reapers are testing, preserving all the harvested races through the Kett since they mix all the DNA together.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Apr 18, 2019 17:07:22 GMT
To escape the Reapers? Maybe our galaxy isn't the only one that the Reapers harvested. Perhaps, even, the Reapers that we faced aren't the only Reapers around. Just the allocated force that was tasked with eradicating life in the Milky Way. Maybe, when no Reapers return from the Milky Way, another Reaper force will be tasked with picking up where they left off. Perhaps the Kett is another solution the Reapers are testing, preserving all the harvested races through the Kett since they mix all the DNA together. Do Kett die? Like from disease or old age? Do they have a life expectancy?
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 18, 2019 17:16:09 GMT
We only know where a few Leviathan were. It's entirely possible they traveled beyond the MW. To escape the Reapers? Maybe our galaxy isn't the only one that the Reapers harvested. Perhaps, even, the Reapers that we faced aren't the only Reapers around. Just the allocated force that was tasked with eradicating life in the Milky Way. Maybe, when no Reapers return from the Milky Way, another Reaper force will be tasked with picking up where they left off. No no no do not give bioware the idea of more reapers coming back. They need to move forward with a new enemy or the levithean rather then the reapers. That wasn't meant to be a jerk toward you it's just that idea sent chills down my spine since I can totally see bioware bringing out the next ME game and saying we didn't kill all the reapers and having them come back.
Also were those the only levithean left or were there more. I can't remember that dlc that well.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 18, 2019 17:17:50 GMT
Perhaps the Kett is another solution the Reapers are testing, preserving all the harvested races through the Kett since they mix all the DNA together. Do Kett die? Like from disease or old age? Do they have a life expectancy? This is a good question. I imagine if they are machine enough they could just keep replacing stuff.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 18, 2019 17:25:09 GMT
Perhaps the Kett is another solution the Reapers are testing, preserving all the harvested races through the Kett since they mix all the DNA together. Do Kett die? Like from disease or old age? Do they have a life expectancy? We don’t know. They are at least long lived, since the Archon was around since first contact with the Angara. But I meant more they just preserve races with the serum they use to better themselves. That could last forever since all Kett are it.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Apr 18, 2019 18:24:44 GMT
To escape the Reapers? Maybe our galaxy isn't the only one that the Reapers harvested. Perhaps, even, the Reapers that we faced aren't the only Reapers around. Just the allocated force that was tasked with eradicating life in the Milky Way. Maybe, when no Reapers return from the Milky Way, another Reaper force will be tasked with picking up where they left off. No no no do not give bioware the idea of more reapers coming back. They need to move forward with a new enemy or the levithean rather then the reapers. That wasn't meant to be a jerk toward you it's just that idea sent chills down my spine since I can totally see bioware bringing out the next ME game and saying we didn't kill all the reapers and having them come back.
Also were those the only levithean left or were there more. I can't remember that dlc that well.
Come on! We'll throw some Reapers, maybe Cerberus makes another return. It'll be a blast. Just like old times.
I think those were the last Leviathans left. Or at least they aren't revealing as to their numbers and where the rest of them might be.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 18, 2019 20:34:54 GMT
To escape the Reapers? Maybe our galaxy isn't the only one that the Reapers harvested. Perhaps, even, the Reapers that we faced aren't the only Reapers around. Just the allocated force that was tasked with eradicating life in the Milky Way. Maybe, when no Reapers return from the Milky Way, another Reaper force will be tasked with picking up where they left off. Perhaps the Kett is another solution the Reapers are testing, preserving all the harvested races through the Kett since they mix all the DNA together. Or it could become that, regardless of original intent. If BW wants to reel in fans who were dissatisfied with MEA, this might do the trick.
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