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Post by mousestalker on Apr 20, 2019 19:47:04 GMT
The problem with Jade Empire isn't the demographics. It is a good game, but it isn't a great game.
Back to the main point. If Bioware reduces or eliminates the nudity or sexy times, I really won't be surprised. Such sex scenes that they've done have been mostly clunky, funny and a bit embarrassing, so fading to black wouldn't be much of a loss. On the other hand, removing actual romances would be a blow. They've been a feature of the entire Dragon Age franchise so that would effect a large percentage of the fan base, myself included.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 20, 2019 19:52:20 GMT
Really? I guess it's because I stuck to one romanceable character.
I’m also pretty sure they are wrong. In MEA you can see Cora, Gil, Jaal, PeeBee, Sara, and Scott naked for a total of 3 men and 3 women. Meanwhile in DAI you can see Cassandra, Cullen, Dorian, Sera, The Iron Bull, and male or female Inquisitor naked for a total of 4 men and 3 women. If protagonist doesn’t count then it is 2-2 for MEA and 3-2 for DAI. Watch the cora sex scene and tell me it wasn't more...real lets say then any other bioware game. DAI usually had them nude after they did it.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 20, 2019 19:53:48 GMT
I’m also pretty sure they are wrong. In MEA you can see Cora, Gil, Jaal, PeeBee, Sara, and Scott naked for a total of 3 men and 3 women. Meanwhile in DAI you can see Cassandra, Cullen, Dorian, Sera, The Iron Bull, and male or female Inquisitor naked for a total of 4 men and 3 women. If protagonist doesn’t count then it is 2-2 for MEA and 3-2 for DAI. Watch the cora sex scene and tell me it wasn't more...real lets say then any other bioware game. DAI usually had them nude after they did it. It’s the most sexually explicit sure, but you said the most nudity so I was pointing out you were wrong on that regard. And I’ll pass watching it thanks. Not interested in that stuff.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 20, 2019 19:59:18 GMT
I’m also pretty sure they are wrong. In MEA you can see Cora, Gil, Jaal, PeeBee, Sara, and Scott naked for a total of 3 men and 3 women. Meanwhile in DAI you can see Cassandra, Cullen, Dorian, Sera, The Iron Bull, and male or female Inquisitor naked for a total of 4 men and 3 women. If protagonist doesn’t count then it is 2-2 for MEA and 3-2 for DAI. So...we count the characters you can see naked in a game now?
You know, I'd be embarrassed by showing that kind of knowledge to others, even if I'd had it before reading your post.
I only really know that info so I can know which romances to avoid either entirely or at least that content.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 20, 2019 20:00:01 GMT
The problem with Jade Empire isn't the demographics. It is a good game, but it isn't a great game. Back to the main point. If Bioware reduces or eliminates the nudity or sexy times, I really won't be surprised. Such sex scenes that they've done have been mostly clunky, funny and a bit embarrassing, so fading to black wouldn't be much of a loss. On the other hand, removing actual romances would be a blow. They've been a feature of the entire Dragon Age franchise so that would effect a large percentage of the fan base, myself included. Personally I don't think bioware will get rid of the scenes or romances. When they said anthem wouldn't have romances people went ape shit. I don't know what anthem's sales were but I gotta asume some people didn't buy it because of that. I personally never bought or played anthem because the game never appealed to me for some reason.
I think all this talk of "live service will probably be them having MP more prevelant or something along that nature. People are still playing ME3 MP and I gurante that people are still buying those pack things on there. They won't be changing their set up because it would cause a backlash and people wouldn't buy it. Or they may take the idea I mentioned somewhere that was they have a seperate team make dlc every month for a while that is just a side story like overlord was (didn't really effect the story of the main game or the lore) and selling them for 5 bucks a piece or ten or something like that. I was one of the people who freaked when they heard live service but I think this is just a random idea someone threw out when they were spitballing idea's.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 20, 2019 20:02:43 GMT
Watch the cora sex scene and tell me it wasn't more...real lets say then any other bioware game. DAI usually had them nude after they did it. It’s the most sexually explicit sure, but you said the most nudity so I was pointing out you were wrong on that regard. And I’ll pass watching it thanks. Not interested in that stuff. fair enough it doesn't have the most nudity. But my point was that they aren't toning it down like some people said or something. For the record I wasn't trying to offend you or start a fight earlier if that's what it sounded like
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Post by Iakus on Apr 20, 2019 20:28:01 GMT
It's kind of pathetic how many resources they must have sunk into that graphic sex scene while leaving "My face is tired" Addison to be fixed in patches months later.
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Post by Sartoz on Apr 20, 2019 20:48:37 GMT
The problem with Jade Empire isn't the demographics. It is a good game, but it isn't a great game. Back to the main point. If Bioware reduces or eliminates the nudity or sexy times, I really won't be surprised. Such sex scenes that they've done have been mostly clunky, funny and a bit embarrassing, so fading to black wouldn't be much of a loss. On the other hand, removing actual romances would be a blow. They've been a feature of the entire Dragon Age franchise so that would effect a large percentage of the fan base, myself included.
Well, i did a bit of research. The fighting game DoA for the PS3 and PS4 contain female fighters with big bouncing everything and showing lots of skin.
The fighter is wearing a thong. So showing skin seems to be OK. The next question is what exactly does Sony means when they say "cracking down on sexual content."? Perhaps they don't want to see any horizontal or table mounts or non straight action.
I'd like to know what game in Sony's archives triggered this crack down.
EDIT: It seems The Hill article explains further. Sony was motivated by the #MeToo movement.
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Post by slimgrin727 on Apr 20, 2019 21:34:14 GMT
It seems The Hill article explains further. Sony was motivated by the #MeToo movement.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 20, 2019 22:45:28 GMT
It's kind of pathetic how many resources they must have sunk into that graphic sex scene while leaving "My face is tired" Addison to be fixed in patches months later. IIRC they hired at least one animator who specializes in that sort of thing. In retrospect, probably should have hired a facial animation guy instead, yeah.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 20, 2019 22:48:08 GMT
I’m also pretty sure they are wrong. In MEA you can see Cora, Gil, Jaal, PeeBee, Sara, and Scott naked for a total of 3 men and 3 women. Meanwhile in DAI you can see Cassandra, Cullen, Dorian, Sera, The Iron Bull, and male or female Inquisitor naked for a total of 4 men and 3 women. If protagonist doesn’t count then it is 2-2 for MEA and 3-2 for DAI. Watch the cora sex scene and tell me it wasn't more...real lets say then any other bioware game. DAI usually had them nude after they did it. Come to think of it, the Cora romance has the sex scene optional. It would be fairly trivial to simply have the nudity track go away for a PS release, if they want to handle it that way.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 20, 2019 22:48:54 GMT
It's kind of pathetic how many resources they must have sunk into that graphic sex scene while leaving "My face is tired" Addison to be fixed in patches months later. IIRC they hired at least one animator who specializes in that sort of thing. In retrospect, probably should have hired a facial animation guy instead, yeah. The horror of the facial animations still stuns me.
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Post by Hier0phant on Apr 21, 2019 1:48:05 GMT
The problem with Jade Empire isn't the demographics. It is a good game, but it isn't a great game. Back to the main point. If Bioware reduces or eliminates the nudity or sexy times, I really won't be surprised. Such sex scenes that they've done have been mostly clunky, funny and a bit embarrassing, so fading to black wouldn't be much of a loss. On the other hand, removing actual romances would be a blow. They've been a feature of the entire Dragon Age franchise so that would effect a large percentage of the fan base, myself included. If EAware takes away the sexy times because of Snoy there'll be hell to pay.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 21, 2019 2:55:34 GMT
It's kind of pathetic how many resources they must have sunk into that graphic sex scene while leaving "My face is tired" Addison to be fixed in patches months later. IIRC they hired at least one animator who specializes in that sort of thing. In retrospect, probably should have hired a facial animation guy instead, yeah. And pay more attention to the scenes EVERYONE will experience over the ones only a small percentage will see.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 21, 2019 5:01:31 GMT
The more I think about this the more I suspect it'll be about the eccentric Japanese games and not games in general. It would open a giant can of worms otherwise. And what about last gen games since PS5 will be backwards compatible? Either way, it's stupid for Sony to play parent. Agreed. You know who should play parents? Actual parents. Corporations don't need to step into that role.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Apr 21, 2019 5:18:53 GMT
The more I think about this the more I suspect it'll be about the eccentric Japanese games and not games in general. It would open a giant can of worms otherwise. And what about last gen games since PS5 will be backwards compatible? Either way, it's stupid for Sony to play parent. Agreed. You know who should play parents? Actual parents. Corporations don't need to step into that role. Sony is motivated by money, not morality. Any fear that they're going to keep blockbusters like GTA off their platform is completely unfounded.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 21, 2019 11:30:31 GMT
On the other hand, removing actual romances would be a blow. They've been a feature of the entire Dragon Age franchise so that would effect a large percentage of the fan base, myself included. If they did remove romances from the next DA game, would that mean the game be released at an earlier date? Or would Bioware use that extra time to add some more content or use that time for more polishing?
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Apr 21, 2019 16:27:51 GMT
On the other hand, removing actual romances would be a blow. They've been a feature of the entire Dragon Age franchise so that would effect a large percentage of the fan base, myself included. If they did remove romances from the next DA game, would that mean the game be released at an earlier date? Or would Bioware use that extra time to add some more content or use that time for more polishing? Given Anthem, anything that brings the schedule in would be a financial advantage for EA. So that would be my bet. Also, recall that Joplin was intended to be "smaller than DAI," which further suggests to me that the intent was to trade-off content in favor of schedule. Whether that intent carries over into Morrison is anyone's guess, but it seems more likely that they'd stay that course than turn 180 can go for a longer schedule with more content.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 21, 2019 19:02:39 GMT
Cutting romances isn't all that great at shortening the game, though. They're not all that heavy on resource costs in and of themselves, although there is some need for unique cinematic design. Most of the content piggybacks on friendship track stuff. Unless that's being cut too?
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Post by thats1evildude on Apr 21, 2019 19:19:37 GMT
On the contrary, AlanC9, I’ve heard numerous times that the romances are very resource-intensive.
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Post by Kabraxal on Apr 21, 2019 19:22:49 GMT
On the contrary, AlanC9, I’ve heard numerous times that the romances are very resource-intensive. Regardless, they should not be cut. It is one of the main factors Bioware has created the best games compared to second tier RPGs like the new breed of CRPGs coming out.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 21, 2019 19:27:01 GMT
Agreed. You know who should play parents? Actual parents. Corporations don't need to step into that role. Heh, kids getting their hands on adult video games would be the least of the problems suddenly solved if western parents were up to being actual parents these days. It's kind of a pattern. Parents can't bring themselves to stand up to their children anymore, school teachers can't do all the heavy lifting by themselves and give up, and it's left to society at large to try to raise people. Which society at large is not suited for. Leading to an insanely and unnecessarily rude awakening when kids grow up and are suddenly thrown into the real world, leading to young people feeling discouraged and disenfranchised instead of working their asses off making money and getting somewhere in their lives, while their spineless parents demand that society be childproofed in order to pick up their slack. This probably is just a business decision to get out in front of a potential political correctness scandal. I have a hard time imagining Sony's executive leadership adopting paternal care as part of their company policy with anything resembling earnestness. Yeah I don't see a corporation doing anything for morale reasons. They always do things because it gets more money.
Also I heard it somewhere but can't remember where but it made sense so I'll repeat it. Alot of the time that parents let their kids get away with everything is because they feel guilty for not liking their kids. They may love them but not like them and they may not "know" or admit they don't like them but they subconsiously feel guilty about it. So in response they feel bad for saying no to them. Back in the old days if a kid didn't behave in public and the parent didn't deal with it they were looked at like they were horrible parents. Now if you raise your voice to them you are evil and on par with bing crosby. I don't have kids and don't want one so maybe I am just clueless but I wish people who were going to have kids ACTUALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT first to see if it is actually what they want or what they think they want because society has some foolish notion that your life is empty if you don't have kids. That's not even talking about what overpopulation is doing...Okay I went on a bit of a rant there sorry about that
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 21, 2019 19:28:31 GMT
Cutting romances isn't all that great at shortening the game, though. They're not all that heavy on resource costs in and of themselves, although there is some need for unique cinematic design. Most of the content piggybacks on friendship track stuff. Unless that's being cut too? They need to keep the romances in. Part of the thing that makes bioware games what they are is companions and our interactions with them. Romances are a big part of that
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 21, 2019 19:29:33 GMT
On the contrary, AlanC9, I’ve heard numerous times that the romances are very resource-intensive. Regardless, they should not be cut. It is one of the main factors Bioware has created the best games compared to second tier RPGs like the new breed of CRPGs coming out. Exactly!
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Apr 21, 2019 19:36:16 GMT
Cutting romances isn't all that great at shortening the game, though. They're not all that heavy on resource costs in and of themselves, although there is some need for unique cinematic design. Most of the content piggybacks on friendship track stuff. Unless that's being cut too? They need to keep the romances in. Part of the thing that makes bioware games what they are is companions and our interactions with them. Romances are a big part of that Whether you like it or not, romances is one of the selling features of Bioware games and right now Bioware is in NO condition whatsoever to give up any of the few trademark features fans like so much.
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