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Post by helios969 on May 21, 2019 17:39:22 GMT
Shepard could survive the 3 endings if given the option. Here's a thread explaining how that might have happened.
Even if Shepard had survived all 3 endings, I would guess destroy would still be chosen the most since the reapers are no longer around like they are with blue and green Yeah had Bioware allowed for such but I was speaking more literally with regard to what we got. Of course I like my solution for moving forward best by Shepard choosing whatever he/she chooses and then waking up next to the Prothean beacon back on Eden Prime. The beacon being nothing more than a simulation for the Reapers to learn the psychological makeup and operational tactics of the current cycle.
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Post by griffith82 on May 21, 2019 21:04:41 GMT
It was clear that it would take the ultimate sacrifice to win. Hardly. Not even Shepard suicide bombing them, would decimate the fleet. It makes sense for something like Berserk, when it's one man, going off to fight an old friend that betrayed him and can only end in the two of them killing each other, but how on Earth, would Shepard killing himself save the galaxy unless he used the Infinity Stones, or some other macguffin, that was deemed "too powerful" for one man to use, much less so, because someone forgot to design the "friendly UI mod" for it. Besides, it's otherwise a direct copy of the Deus Ex: Human Revolution ending and that was released just 6 months prior. If anything, it is telling of creative bankruptcy. I don't agree.
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Post by griffith82 on May 21, 2019 21:05:46 GMT
Shepard could survive the 3 endings if given the option. Here's a thread explaining how that might have happened.
Even if Shepard had survived all 3 endings, I would guess destroy would still be chosen the most since the reapers are no longer around like they are with blue and green Yeah had Bioware allowed for such but I was speaking more literally with regard to what we got. Of course I like my solution for moving forward best by Shepard choosing whatever he/she chooses and then waking up next to the Prothean beacon back on Eden Prime. The beacon being nothing more than a simulation for the Reapers to learn the psychological makeup and operational tactics of the current cycle. So the games were a dream? No thanks.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 21, 2019 21:13:33 GMT
While you offer no rebuttal, I will simply leave it then at you are entitled to your opinion.
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Post by helios969 on May 21, 2019 23:02:09 GMT
While you offer no rebuttal, I will simply leave it then at you are entitled to your opinion. Yeah, I had a feeling if anyone would snark in it would be that dude. No worries.
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Post by alanc9 on May 21, 2019 23:40:03 GMT
Yeah had Bioware allowed for such but I was speaking more literally with regard to what we got. Of course I like my solution for moving forward best by Shepard choosing whatever he/she chooses and then waking up next to the Prothean beacon back on Eden Prime. The beacon being nothing more than a simulation for the Reapers to learn the psychological makeup and operational tactics of the current cycle. So the games were a dream? No thanks. I almost want to see this happen, if only to watch the tidal wave of butthurt.
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Post by Phantom on May 21, 2019 23:59:33 GMT
So the games were a dream? No thanks. I almost want to see this happen, if only to watch the tidal wave of butthurt. And I will make the popcorn if they do that. Also The Popcorn will be Indoctrination Free.
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Post by griffith82 on May 22, 2019 1:18:43 GMT
While you offer no rebuttal, I will simply leave it then at you are entitled to your opinion. Yeah, I had a feeling if anyone would snark in it would be that dude. No worries. So I cant have a differing opinion? News flash I can. I'll never agree with a lot of what you guys say.
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Post by griffith82 on May 22, 2019 1:19:48 GMT
I almost want to see this happen, if only to watch the tidal wave of butthurt. And I will make the popcorn if they do that. Also The Popcorn will be Indoctrination Free. I'll bring the liquor and wine.
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Post by Phantom on May 22, 2019 1:44:26 GMT
And I will make the popcorn if they do that. Also The Popcorn will be Indoctrination Free. I'll bring the liquor and wine. There will be drinks of all stripes. Liquor and Wine those that want them, Soda, Juice and water for those that want them.
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Post by kumazan on May 22, 2019 5:49:20 GMT
So the games were a dream? No thanks. I almost want to see this happen, if only to watch the tidal wave of butthurt. That'd happen with anything they do in the Milky Way that isn't pre-endings tbh.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 22, 2019 6:18:13 GMT
So I cant have a differing opinion? News flash I can. I'll never agree with a lot of what you guys say. That's not the problem. You made no argument for yourself. And saying you'll never agree with something, well, we're not advocating murder here, we're having a discussion. Make a reasonable argument and maybe we'll agree with you. Maybe we'll counter argue for hours, until we reach a common conclusion.
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Post by XJlock on May 22, 2019 7:17:09 GMT
I am in favor of Andromeda just being continued in comics or occasionally mentioned. I want to return to the Milky Way. Andromeda can be like Ultimate Marvel or Age of Apocalypse. Occasionally referenced, but not mainly focused on. I approve of this. Although, whichever galaxy they could choose to portray in a comic book would be up to them.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 22, 2019 8:58:44 GMT
I am in favor of Andromeda just being continued in comics or occasionally mentioned. I want to return to the Milky Way. Andromeda can be like Ultimate Marvel or Age of Apocalypse. Occasionally referenced, but not mainly focused on. I approve of this. Although, whichever galaxy they could choose to portray in a comic book would be up to them. I think we should return to Andromeda, but I think going back to it right now is a very bad idea.
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Post by helios969 on May 22, 2019 11:34:07 GMT
Maybe we'll counter argue for hours, until we reach a common conclusion. I applaud your optimism.
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Post by helios969 on May 22, 2019 11:45:44 GMT
I think we should return to Andromeda, but I think going back to it right now is a very bad idea. Pretty much sums up my feelings. I think they need to do something to energize the fanbase and generate hype. That hardly seems the approach. Of course it doesn't matter if they give us MEA2, ME4, or MET reboot if it lacks good leadership, strong vision, and a return to a more focused narrative. I'm not convinced those things are possible at Bioware anymore.
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Post by wright1978 on May 22, 2019 12:11:06 GMT
I think we should return to Andromeda, but I think going back to it right now is a very bad idea. Pretty much sums up my feelings. I think they need to do something to energize the fanbase and generate hype. That hardly seems the approach. Of course it doesn't matter if they give us MEA2, ME4, or MET reboot if it lacks good leadership, strong vision, and a return to a more focused narrative. I'm not convinced those things are possible at Bioware anymore. There's no point in ever returning to Andromeda if you've already rebooted the entire trilogy or kicked down everyone's choices by enforcing a new canon post ME3 worldstate. The point of returning to Andromeda would be to avoid rehashing trilogy/mucking with people's choices etc
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Post by helios969 on May 22, 2019 12:19:31 GMT
Pretty much sums up my feelings. I think they need to do something to energize the fanbase and generate hype. That hardly seems the approach. Of course it doesn't matter if they give us MEA2, ME4, or MET reboot if it lacks good leadership, strong vision, and a return to a more focused narrative. I'm not convinced those things are possible at Bioware anymore. There's no point in ever returning to Andromeda if you've already rebooted the entire trilogy or kicked down everyone's choices by enforcing a new canon post ME3 worldstate. The point of returning to Andromeda would be to avoid rehashing trilogy/mucking with people's choices etc I understand the logic but you need enough people to warrant the investment. The whole handling was pretty stupid because they could have already released MEA2 with significantly less investment of resources than you will now need for ME next. They could have refined everything while tightening story and RPG elements...which would have won many people back. Instead, once again, Bioware will reinvent the wheel.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 22, 2019 12:23:56 GMT
I applaud your optimism. It's the ideal, but some common ground would be nice. Anything is better than a flat no. I'm not convinced those things are possible at Bioware anymore. They need a clear vision with what they need/want to accomplish. Out of that, see what is doable within the development timeframe and do it, without wasting time. I am going to plug my idea AGAIN, because why the hell not. It's amazing how much mileage we're gonna get from Ghost Games for this. All because they did such a good job with Andromeda's driving, that they'll carry so much of the weight for us.
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Post by griffith82 on May 22, 2019 17:09:09 GMT
So I cant have a differing opinion? News flash I can. I'll never agree with a lot of what you guys say. That's not the problem. You made no argument for yourself. And saying you'll never agree with something, well, we're not advocating murder here, we're having a discussion. Make a reasonable argument and maybe we'll agree with you. Maybe we'll counter argue for hours, until we reach a common conclusion. I see your point. I do see your POV about Shep dying once already. Mine is from the start the Reapers were a strong nearly unbeatable enemy. From what it took to take down Sovereign I knew when they came in force it wasn't going to be happily ever after. After ME2 it confirmed for me that with how many were coming it would be tough to survive it. Personally I felt it ended fine and how I expected it to.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 22, 2019 17:51:01 GMT
That's not the problem. You made no argument for yourself. And saying you'll never agree with something, well, we're not advocating murder here, we're having a discussion. Make a reasonable argument and maybe we'll agree with you. Maybe we'll counter argue for hours, until we reach a common conclusion. I see your point. I do see your POV about Shep dying once already. Mine is from the start the Reapers were a strong nearly unbeatable enemy. From what it took to take down Sovereign I knew when they came in force it wasn't going to be happily ever after. After ME2 it confirmed for me that with how many were coming it would be tough to survive it. Personally I felt it ended fine and how I expected it to. I see your point, as well. I'd argue that ME3 had quite a few sacrifices and while the ending would have us make a few hard choices, at the very least, I think the choice was railroaded down on us, with very few exceptions. Mordin, Legion, Thane and many more that died wasn't a choice. I'd argue that ME3 was a veritable blood bath, which, after a while, got old, repetitive, anti-climactic and, quite frankly, forced. Even in something like Game of Thrones, where there's been plenty of deaths, the frequency at which characters die is considerably more sparse, compared to ME3. Also, the fact how the entire choice at the end of ME3 boils down to nobody bothering to plan out a friendly UI, on such a sophisticated and complex machinery, just boggles my mind and fills me with disbelief. Not to mention that to even require some sort of personal input in such a way ... who the fuck designed such a catastrophe? I can just imagine the dialogue between the engineers.
Engineer1: So you either blow yourself up, electrocute yourself or fry yourself in order to use it? Engineer2: That's right. Engineer1: Can you maybe design the Crucible in a way that doesn't, you know, require you to kill yourself? Engineer2: *looks at Engineer1 with disdain* Are you questioning my engineering integrity?
It's insane. And, since the Starkid knows what the Crucible can do and wants Shepard to use it, what is the point of continuing the attack? The war is lost for the Reapers, at that point and they are at Shepard's mercy, one way or the other. So the need for the assault to continue is over, on their part, the only thing left is a final choice, which can be made at any time regardless and doesn't require Shepard specifically.
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Post by Kappa Neko on May 22, 2019 20:30:37 GMT
If there's any reason to argue for Destroy being canon is that we spend most of the trilogy focused on that...none of the other two were well foreshadowed...and even more poorly implemented. I do often wonder though if Shepard had only survived with the Synthesis option if 70% would still have chosen Destroy. I'd bet good money not. Depends on what you mean by foreshadowed. The ENTIRE trilogy is ALL about the misguided ideas of synthesis and control, represented by Saren and TIM! The games have been telling us the whole time that none of this is a good idea. The only solution is to destroy them. Destroy is represented by Anderson too so that can never be the wrong choice. Which is why the green and blue ending should be a game over screen. THAT is how the endings don't make any sense. All of a sudden synthesis and control are peachy fine solutions because space jesus has a handle on it... OK then.
I wish Bioware had had the balls at the time to trick people into picking the green space magic ending and then making them watch the reapers kill everyone all over again. Because honestly, how stupid can you get picking that?? Mind you, ironically, I picked green too because I thought "Lol, I gotta see how this is supposed to work". And because I honestly believed Bioware steered players towards this nonsense fairy tale ending because it's the only one where the geth survive. I felt cheated that you spent an entire game making peace between the geth and the quarians only to sacrifice one of them after all.
And yet, the only thing that makes sense narrative wise from all the evidence we've seen of any kind of control being an illusion is to friggin kill the reapers once and for all. Shepard gets told several time that sacrifice is required to beat the reapers. And the geth were that sacrifice. So yes, that was the goal and that is the only thing that makes sense at the end. Shepard proves that the reapers were WRONG. That peace is possible. No need for synthesis. Certainly not like that. Let it happen naturally through love... making... with robots. I mean, love. Just love.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 22, 2019 20:33:45 GMT
Let it happen naturally through love... making... with robots Go on ...
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Post by helios969 on May 22, 2019 22:33:43 GMT
If there's any reason to argue for Destroy being canon is that we spend most of the trilogy focused on that...none of the other two were well foreshadowed...and even more poorly implemented. I do often wonder though if Shepard had only survived with the Synthesis option if 70% would still have chosen Destroy. I'd bet good money not. Depends on what you mean by foreshadowed. The ENTIRE trilogy is ALL about the misguided ideas of synthesis and control, represented by Saren and TIM! The games have been telling us the whole time that none of this is a good idea. The only solution is to destroy them. Destroy is represented by Anderson too so that can never be the wrong choice. Which is why the green and blue ending should be a game over screen. THAT is how the endings don't make any sense. All of a sudden synthesis and control are peachy fine solutions because space jesus has a handle on it... OK then.
I wish Bioware had had the balls at the time to trick people into picking the green space magic ending and then making them watch the reapers kill everyone all over again. Because honestly, how stupid can you get picking that?? Mind you, ironically, I picked green too because I thought "Lol, I gotta see how this is supposed to work". And because I honestly believed Bioware steered players towards this nonsense fairy tale ending because it's the only one where the geth survive. I felt cheated that you spent an entire game making peace between the geth and the quarians only to sacrifice one of them after all.
And yet, the only thing that makes sense narrative wise from all the evidence we've seen of any kind of control being an illusion is to friggin kill the reapers once and for all. Shepard gets told several time that sacrifice is required to beat the reapers. And the geth were that sacrifice. So yes, that was the goal and that is the only thing that makes sense at the end. Shepard proves that the reapers were WRONG. That peace is possible. No need for synthesis. Certainly not like that. Let it happen naturally through love... making... with robots. I mean, love. Just love.
I pretty much agree 100% (damn we should mark this day on the calendar). I remember first time being presented with synthesis...I was like W...T...F...and would have loved for a ha, suckers moment as you suggest. What I despise most is the notion that because we can suddenly, magically understand one another conflict becomes obsolete. At this point I'd be on board with Bioware canonizing synthesis just to give all the wide-eyed utopian dreamers a big, fat dose of reality. Yeah, they weren't even subtle in trying to manipulate people toward their ideal...and still only managed to trick...er convince 10% to leap into the beam. Yes, there was foreshadowing in terms of ideas being thrown around but they weren't really focal points...maybe as seeds they just weren't planted well. I certainly wasn't expecting options to become the Reaper Overlord or use my genetic goo to convert sentient life into an organic-synthetic matrix (lol). I really only expected to destroy and that any variations to the endgame would be in allies and companions surviving or not and the overall state of the galaxy depending on previous choices, resources gathered.
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Post by alanc9 on May 23, 2019 1:22:17 GMT
Depends on what you mean by foreshadowed. The ENTIRE trilogy is ALL about the misguided ideas of synthesis and control, represented by Saren and TIM! The games have been telling us the whole time that none of this is a good idea. The only solution is to destroy them. Destroy is represented by Anderson too so that can never be the wrong choice. Which is why the green and blue ending should be a game over screen. THAT is how the endings don't make any sense. All of a sudden synthesis and control are peachy fine solutions because space jesus has a handle on it... OK then.
I wish Bioware had had the balls at the time to trick people into picking the green space magic ending and then making them watch the reapers kill everyone all over again. Because honestly, how stupid can you get picking that?? Mind you, ironically, I picked green too because I thought "Lol, I gotta see how this is supposed to work". And because I honestly believed Bioware steered players towards this nonsense fairy tale ending because it's the only one where the geth survive. I felt cheated that you spent an entire game making peace between the geth and the quarians only to sacrifice one of them after all. "Balls" would have been necessary, but not sufficient. Bio would also have had to to agree with what you're saying
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