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Post by slimgrin727 on Apr 26, 2019 13:45:45 GMT
This is how the cycle goes: - Anthem advertises a trailer running in game - Gamers who have been there before advise caution because it could be bullshot - These gamers are called haters, company fans say company can't and won't blatantly lie - Developers point to this skepticism as reasons why they no longer interact with the community - Release reveals blatant … misleading - Gamers got burnt - Next time a trailer is released more gamers are skeptical And thus the cycle of distrust between gamers and game companies continues. And yet some devs simply market the actual game that will be sold and avoid the above BS. Yes, it actually happens. Bullshots are not an industry standard.
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Post by 10k on Apr 26, 2019 13:47:07 GMT
No the ones that were shown to be free in game, and all those color pallets and emotes as well. So you're saying they showed that you can customize with them in the live-streams, but took them out and put them behind a paywall? Yeah, that's not a scam. Showing the audience that they are usable in game, but fail to mention they will be behind a paywall upon release lol. They said you had to unlock them and had two currencies...that should not be a surprise to you. Where I just watched the entire video. Please give me a time stamp, I didn't hear them say that at all. They were just going over all the customization options that would be present in-game. No where did I hear or see them say, "by the way all these items will be in our vanity store." Edit: Oh you are lying! No where in the pre-release live streams did they mention anything about the in-game currencies or the store for that matter. Because the currencies were leaked from that image that went around that made everyone pissed off. Also here's the video so you can watch it.
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Post by linksocarina on Apr 26, 2019 14:13:16 GMT
They said you had to unlock them and had two currencies...that should not be a surprise to you. Where I just watched the entire video. Please give me a time stamp, I didn't hear them say that at all. They were just going over all the customization options that would be present in-game. No where did I hear or see them say, "by the way all these items will be in our vanity store." Edit: Oh you are lying! No where in the pre-release live streams did they mention anything about the in-game currencies or the store for that matter. Because the currencies were leaked from that image that went around that made everyone pissed off. Multiple times in marketing it was said that the microtransactions would be relegated to cosmetics. Did you presume that all they showed off would be free or available from the get go? I know I didnt.
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Post by 10k on Apr 26, 2019 14:25:28 GMT
Where I just watched the entire video. Please give me a time stamp, I didn't hear them say that at all. They were just going over all the customization options that would be present in-game. No where did I hear or see them say, "by the way all these items will be in our vanity store." Edit: Oh you are lying! No where in the pre-release live streams did they mention anything about the in-game currencies or the store for that matter. Because the currencies were leaked from that image that went around that made everyone pissed off. Multiple times in marketing it was said that the microtransactions would be relegated to cosmetics. Did you presume that all they showed off would be free or available from the get go? I know I didnt. Yep I sure did, because they said it directly in the video. All those item were said to be earned from playing the game, not placed in a vanity store. People presumed that they meant new items would be created and placed in that store. Not the ones that were shown to be marketed as being available: "As the player plays the game." (quoted directly from the video) You're just grasping at straws now. It's so obvious that they marketed these items as being in the game, not a store.
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Post by linksocarina on Apr 26, 2019 14:28:23 GMT
Multiple times in marketing it was said that the microtransactions would be relegated to cosmetics. Did you presume that all they showed off would be free or available from the get go? I know I didnt. Yep I sure did, because they said it directly in the video. All those item were said to be earned from playing the game, not placed in a vanity store. People presumed that they meant new items would be created and placed in that store. Not the ones that were shown to be marketed as being available: "As the player plays the game." (quoted directly from the video) You're just grasping at straws now. It's so obvious that they marketed these items as being in the game, not a store. Yet they are, and they can be earned without paying. Not to mention several vynals and such are always availabe too and can be earned by just playing the game. Again, you seem to have a problem with the rotating aspect of the items as they pop up, which is fair criticism but not a scam.
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Post by 10k on Apr 26, 2019 14:42:39 GMT
Yep I sure did, because they said it directly in the video. All those item were said to be earned from playing the game, not placed in a vanity store. People presumed that they meant new items would be created and placed in that store. Not the ones that were shown to be marketed as being available: "As the player plays the game." (quoted directly from the video) You're just grasping at straws now. It's so obvious that they marketed these items as being in the game, not a store. Yet they are, and they can be earned without paying. Not to mention several vynals and such are always availabe too and can be earned by just playing the game. Again, you seem to have a problem with the rotating aspect of the items as they pop up, which is fair criticism but not a scam. No I have a problem with marketing that showed items that will be readily available for the player at release, but fail to mention that these items will be instead behind a paywall, they're not readily available, and they can't be earned by just playing. If they actually marketed as such there wouldn't be a problem, but they didn't.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Apr 26, 2019 15:18:31 GMT
They really, REALLY need to hire someone who's only job - ONLY JOB - is all outgoing and incoming communication. For all games. Bioware hasn't been good at communication for a very long time. That was fine when they a) had an exceptional reputation and just as importantly has a sizeable core fanbase willing to go into bat for them to spread information and defend their fuck ups (from now on these people will be dubbed 'human shields'). Now that their reputation is er ... and now that they've lost a good chunk of their human shields, they'll need to learn fast how to communicate effectively with their intended audience ... Which I find to be one of the most discouraging things about Anthem and Bioware today. Why is it taking so long to execute on this obvious, no-brainer, right-the-ship tactic? They can fix bugs all day every day, but if they aren’t communicating in a way that gets those shields back, or at least gets some of the Gone to Maybe Later’s, wtf is the point? I’d also be catering to the hardcore believers that are still sticking with the game and shower them with so much love, they’d think they were porn stars. Honestly, what is so hard about giving every player with 100 hours in the game a special LEGO item if they play at least once a week for the next 2 weeks? If it were me in charge of CM or PR, I would be acknowledging every legit complaint with either the plan to fix it or an explanation as to why not. Particularly about loot. The “I can’t talk about it” answer Jesse gave about loot is, in some ways, worse than saying nothing at all. He might as well have thrown gas on the conspiracy theory fire.
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Post by SofaJockey on Apr 26, 2019 15:38:31 GMT
Running in-game, at real time my ass. I'm sure I recall a Digital Foundry review at the time that said - yes, it's running in-game in real time.
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Post by 10k on Apr 26, 2019 15:40:14 GMT
Running in-game, at real time my ass. I'm sure I recall a Digital Foundry review at the time that said - yes, it's running in-game in real time. Not that E3 trailer.
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Post by Thrombin on Apr 26, 2019 15:40:52 GMT
Bioware hasn't been good at communication for a very long time. That was fine when they a) had an exceptional reputation and just as importantly has a sizeable core fanbase willing to go into bat for them to spread information and defend their fuck ups (from now on these people will be dubbed 'human shields'). Now that their reputation is er ... and now that they've lost a good chunk of their human shields, they'll need to learn fast how to communicate effectively with their intended audience ... Which I find to be one of the most discouraging things about Anthem and Bioware today. Why is it taking so long to execute on this obvious, no-brainer, right-the-ship tactic? They can fix bugs all day every day, but if they aren’t communicating in a way that gets those shields back, or at least gets some of the Gone to Maybe Later’s, wtf is the point? I’d also be catering to the hardcore believers that are still sticking with the game and shower them with so much love, they’d think they were porn stars. Honestly, what is so hard about giving every player with 100 hours in the game a special LEGO item if they play at least once a week for the next 2 weeks?
If it were me in charge of CM or PR, I would be acknowledging every legit complaint with either the plan to fix it or an explanation as to why not. Particularly about loot. The “I can’t talk about it” answer Jesse gave about loot is, in some ways, worse than saying nothing at all. He might as well have thrown gas on the conspiracy theory fire.
I'm already getting a legendary a week at least.
On the loot subject, the way I see it, people will always want more than is good for them. Whatever you give them they'll want more until the point where they don't need any and then they'll stop playing altogether if the new content hasn't come yet or doesn't appeal.
It makes sense for harder content to give more than less hard content. I'm not convinced that's happening and that would seem to be the most obvious fix but do you do that by ramping up the harder stuff or ramping down the less hard stuff?
The former pleases more people but only until they don't need to play any more which rather defeats the object!
That, I believe, is why this isn't a quick fix to them. Why they're specifically hiring an expert to tell them what's best to do. Doing anything one way or the other before they know what's right could end up being counter-productive.
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Post by correctamundo on Apr 26, 2019 15:41:18 GMT
Yet they are, and they can be earned without paying. Not to mention several vynals and such are always availabe too and can be earned by just playing the game. Again, you seem to have a problem with the rotating aspect of the items as they pop up, which is fair criticism but not a scam. No I have a problem with marketing that showed items that will be readily available for the player at release, but fail to mention that these items will be instead behind a paywall, they're not readily available, and they can't be earned by just playing. If they actually marketed as such there wouldn't be a problem, but they didn't. None of them are behind a pay wall. Coin is earned by playing the game just as gold is earned in DAO by playing the game. By your reasoning every thing in Bodahns shop is behind a pay wall.
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Post by SofaJockey on Apr 26, 2019 15:43:12 GMT
these items will be instead behind a paywall, they're not readily available, and they can't be earned by just playing. The only cosmetic items exclusively behind a paywall are the Legion of Dawn armor sets. Everything else can be purchased in-game with in-game currency.
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Post by Pounce de León on Apr 26, 2019 15:47:03 GMT
Can't you unlock cosmic stuff by reaching standing with factions? It was supposed to be like that at some point.
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Post by 10k on Apr 26, 2019 15:58:08 GMT
No I have a problem with marketing that showed items that will be readily available for the player at release, but fail to mention that these items will be instead behind a paywall, they're not readily available, and they can't be earned by just playing. If they actually marketed as such there wouldn't be a problem, but they didn't. None of them are behind a pay wall. Coin is earned by playing the game just as gold is earned in DAO by playing the game. By your reasoning every thing in Bodahns shop is behind a pay wall. My point was to illustrate that they didn't marketed it that way. When they first showed all those items, they told people they were going to be in-game as you play the game. They never mentioned the vanity store until after that image of the store was leaked. And even then they continued to say new items would be added, not the items that they showed in the live-streams.
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Post by cypherj on Apr 26, 2019 16:00:34 GMT
OMG people need to stop. It's starting to sound like EA after Battlefront II came out in here.
Darth Vader isn't locked behind a paywall, you can buy him in-game. It's going to take you a year to earn enough money, but technically he's available to buy in game.
The rate you acquire money in Anthem is in no way proportionate to what items cost in the store, and it's designed this way deliberately. It's designed to make people say this $5 in RL money is worth it to avoid all the time it would take me to farm this much money in game.
That's why you have quests where they tell you to kill 100 Ursics, or whatever it was for a paltry two grand reward for hours and hours of your time.
To say everything is available in game is just being disingenuous.
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Post by AnDromedary on Apr 26, 2019 16:02:03 GMT
Wow, that just goes to show how tense things must be in the BioWare offices these days. To be honest. I am quite glad I don't work there.
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Post by Sartoz on Apr 26, 2019 16:19:45 GMT
OMG people need to stop. It's starting to sound like EA after Battlefront II came out in here. Darth Vader isn't locked behind a paywall, you can buy him in-game. It's going to take you a year to earn enough money, but technically he's available to buy in game. The rate you acquire money in Anthem is in no way proportionate to what items cost in the store, and it's designed this way deliberately. It's designed to make people say this $5 in RL money is worth it to avoid all the time it would take me to farm this much money in game. That's why you have quests where they tell you to kill 100 Ursics, or whatever it was for a paltry two grand reward for hours and hours of your time. To say everything is available in game is just being disingenuous.
Grind is THE motivator to push the player into the MTX solution. Something I predicted so many, many moons ago. Expecting this very situation, I'm not angry as many others are. I's a good thing I learned how to read the tea leaves.
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Post by slimgrin727 on Apr 26, 2019 16:26:23 GMT
Running in-game, at real time my ass. I'm sure I recall a Digital Foundry review at the time that said - yes, it's running in-game in real time. That was a prototype made for E3 as per what Bioware said in the Kotaku report. Which might be fine if it was representing a game that had existed at the time. But as we know, it was more of a starting point for the team.
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Post by cypherj on Apr 26, 2019 16:29:03 GMT
OMG people need to stop. It's starting to sound like EA after Battlefront II came out in here. Darth Vader isn't locked behind a paywall, you can buy him in-game. It's going to take you a year to earn enough money, but technically he's available to buy in game. The rate you acquire money in Anthem is in no way proportionate to what items cost in the store, and it's designed this way deliberately. It's designed to make people say this $5 in RL money is worth it to avoid all the time it would take me to farm this much money in game. That's why you have quests where they tell you to kill 100 Ursics, or whatever it was for a paltry two grand reward for hours and hours of your time. To say everything is available in game is just being disingenuous.
Grind is THE motivator to push the player into the MTX solution. Something I predicted so many, many moons ago. Expecting this very situation, I'm not angry as many others are. I's a good thing I learned how to read the tea leaves.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I know exactly what the purpose is, like I said in my post. But people are sitting here acting like the goal isn't making things so much of a grind that you break down and spend RL currency.
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Post by SofaJockey on Apr 26, 2019 16:39:57 GMT
That was a prototype made for E3 as per what Bioware said in the Kotaku report. Which might be fine if it was representing a game that had existed at the time. But as we know, it was more of a starting point for the team. I'm more than willing to accept that the game was limited in coverage at the time of the E3 trailer, but for that trailer to exist, the Javelin traversal mechanics existed, animals such as the Korox, Ursix, and Wolven existed. The Ranger's Ultimate existed, Fort Tarsis' market existed. Despite the Schreier article, I think what is 'known' is a lot more shaky than the Kotaku article implies. The same applies to BioWare's current communication, I think - known truth is hard to come by.
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Post by correctamundo on Apr 26, 2019 16:48:57 GMT
OMG people need to stop. It's starting to sound like EA after Battlefront II came out in here. Darth Vader isn't locked behind a paywall, you can buy him in-game. It's going to take you a year to earn enough money, but technically he's available to buy in game. The rate you acquire money in Anthem is in no way proportionate to what items cost in the store, and it's designed this way deliberately. It's designed to make people say this $5 in RL money is worth it to avoid all the time it would take me to farm this much money in game. That's why you have quests where they tell you to kill 100 Ursics, or whatever it was for a paltry two grand reward for hours and hours of your time. To say everything is available in game is just being disingenuous. By all means go ahead and stop. There is no quest to kill 100 Ursixes, there is a challenge. Just as there is a commendation to kill 10000 mobs in The Division.
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Post by correctamundo on Apr 26, 2019 16:51:56 GMT
None of them are behind a pay wall. Coin is earned by playing the game just as gold is earned in DAO by playing the game. By your reasoning every thing in Bodahns shop is behind a pay wall. My point was to illustrate that they didn't marketed it that way. When they first showed all those items, they told people they were going to be in-game as you play the game. They never mentioned the vanity store until after that image of the store was leaked. And even then they continued to say new items would be added, not the items that they showed in the live-streams. They were clear on the difference between customisation and personalisation way before that, that there would be some kind o vanity store as well.
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Post by cypherj on Apr 26, 2019 17:00:27 GMT
OMG people need to stop. It's starting to sound like EA after Battlefront II came out in here. Darth Vader isn't locked behind a paywall, you can buy him in-game. It's going to take you a year to earn enough money, but technically he's available to buy in game. The rate you acquire money in Anthem is in no way proportionate to what items cost in the store, and it's designed this way deliberately. It's designed to make people say this $5 in RL money is worth it to avoid all the time it would take me to farm this much money in game. That's why you have quests where they tell you to kill 100 Ursics, or whatever it was for a paltry two grand reward for hours and hours of your time. To say everything is available in game is just being disingenuous. By all means go ahead and stop. There is no quest to kill 100 Ursixes, there is a challenge. Just as there is a commendation to kill 10000 mobs in The Division.
Do you get a reward for killing the Ursix? And is that reward paltry for the amount of time it takes to complete the 'challenge'. If we're playing semantics, I guess the point is proven.
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Post by correctamundo on Apr 26, 2019 17:09:04 GMT
By all means go ahead and stop. There is no quest to kill 100 Ursixes, there is a challenge. Just as there is a commendation to kill 10000 mobs in The Division.
Do you get a reward for killing the Ursix? And is that reward paltry for the amount of time it takes to complete the 'challenge'. If we're playing semantics, I guess the point is proven.
That your point is rather blunt yes. The rewards are always paltry in the greater scheme of things. What do you think you will get for the killing 10000 in The Division? Is it worth it?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2019 17:15:58 GMT
So far, the armor I have (which is kitted out to look "rode hard and put away wet" for story purposes) is fine for me.
In fact, I like it a lot …
Freelancer down and out, can barely keep the cypher in sandwiches. Even after the old cypher bolts and business picks up, the new cypher is … expensive, plus there's the strider and strider driver to take care of … lots of new expenses, plus Yarrow gets a cut for every contract and Zoe … she doesn't keep the javelins working out the goodness of her heart … it takes coin. Spending a lot of coin on a fancy new armor or paint job just isn't in the cards … maybe someday.
As far as Prospero's store … Emotes? Decals? Vinyls? Meh. Again, maybe someday.
At this point, I have over 460K in coin. Eventually, they may release some cosmic armor that is a must have for me … when that day comes, if it's for 500K coin, I will be ready.
If it's for 1M coin … it will probably take me a while longer to save up.
In a way, the game is similar to life … if I spend all my coin on little crap I don't care about, I won't have the coin for the big stuff.
If I spend game-limited resources (coin) only on stuff I care about, I won't need shards (real money) … which I care about a lot more.
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