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Post by Nightscrawl on Aug 26, 2018 10:45:18 GMT
"Nothing could be worse than the thought of living without you." "If there is a future to be had, I will walk into it gladly at your side." Damn he's got some good lines. *_*
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Post by Iddy on Aug 29, 2018 19:33:26 GMT
I know that Fenris' lyrium tattoos were added through a special ritual, but I don't think it makes sense for lyrium's risks to be ignored.
Perhaps it is like being a Grey Warden: The ritual keeps it under control for a time, but the lyrium/taint will destroy the bearer in the end.
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Post by Walter Black on Aug 29, 2018 22:10:25 GMT
I know that Fenris' lyrium tattoos were added through a special ritual, but I don't think it makes sense for lyrium's risks to be ignored. Perhaps it is like being a Grey Warden: The ritual keeps it under control for a time, but the lyrium/taint will destroy the bearer in the end. This reminds me of an X-Men arc a few years back where Kitty Pryde became injured and her powers reversed. As a result, she had to actively force herself to become solid when she wanted to touch things or eat, though she she could still breathe and sleep when intangible. Could something similar happen to Fenris in his later years? When he dies, will he just disappear?
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Post by Nightscrawl on Sept 4, 2018 21:34:45 GMT
Last from me, as I'm done playing DA2. "Promise me you won’t die. I can’t bear the thought of living without you."
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Post by Iddy on Sept 5, 2018 12:46:06 GMT
I'd like to think that spending time with mages for years was an opportunity for Fenris to change his mind, but Merrill is a blood mage and Anders is an abomination. Hawke is better by default for not submitting to demonic influence, but one person isn't enough.
And many of Kirkwall's mages don't make a good case either.
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Post by Catilina on Sept 5, 2018 13:40:57 GMT
I'd like to think that spending time with mages for years was an opportunity for Fenris to change his mind, but Merrill is a blood mage and Anders is an abomination. Hawke is better by default for not submitting to demonic influence, but one person isn't enough. And many of Kirkwall's mages don't make a good case either. Merrill's a good blood mage.
Anders and Merrill doesn't want to rule over anyone or anything.
I don't see the problem. They can help to solve Fenris' problem with Hawke.
Not mentioned, Kirkwall's not the best place for anyone who want to regenerate. He at least able to face his problems. Just like Anders.
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Post by Iddy on Sept 5, 2018 15:40:18 GMT
I'd like to think that spending time with mages for years was an opportunity for Fenris to change his mind, but Merrill is a blood mage and Anders is an abomination. Hawke is better by default for not submitting to demonic influence, but one person isn't enough. And many of Kirkwall's mages don't make a good case either. Merrill's a good blood mage.
Anders and Merrill doesn't want to rule over anyone or anything.
I don't see the problem. They can help to solve Fenris' problem with Hawke.
Not mentioned, Kirkwall's not the best place for anyone who want to regenerate. He at least able to face his problems. Just like Anders.
From Fenris' perspective, the fact that they are such things already is pretty damning. Now, I'll give you Anders because he never intended to become an abomination. But Merrill associated herself with a demon and was fully aware of it.
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Post by Catilina on Sept 5, 2018 16:25:46 GMT
Merrill's a good blood mage. Anders and Merrill doesn't want to rule over anyone or anything.
I don't see the problem. They can help to solve Fenris' problem with Hawke. Not mentioned, Kirkwall's not the best place for anyone who want to regenerate. He at least able to face his problems. Just like Anders.
From Fenris' perspective, the fact that they are such things already is pretty damning. Now, I'll give you Anders because he never intended to become an abomination. But Merrill associated herself with a demon and was fully aware of it. I understand, what do you wrote – and of course, it makes sense – many dangerous mages there... But Kirkwall was the place, where he got help from mages too. And never forget: in Tevinter he experienced the slavery's every shade.
Fenris doesn't see them as a threat – he would be able to leave them and Hawke. He did not. He accepted their help, and spent times with them.
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Post by roivas on Sept 16, 2018 15:41:39 GMT
Hi! I'm more a Mass Effect fan than a DA, I think it's the first time I write a message on a DA forum ^^;
I'm going to play DAII for the third time. Until now, I always romanced Anders. But this time, I want to try Fenris.
I've read the first pages of this topic & from what I gathered, it's tricky to romance him with a mage/pro-mage M!Hawke.
Does anyone here have a link for a good guide for his romance? I think I'm gonna try the rival romance, seems a lot of people liked it here & and it make sens to me when people explain why they choose the rival romance. Thx for your help ^^
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Sept 16, 2018 16:01:51 GMT
Hi! I'm more a Mass Effect fan than a DA, I think it's the first time I write a message on a DA forum ^^; I'm going to play DAII for the third time. Until now, I always romanced Anders. But this time, I want to try Fenris. I've read the first pages of this topic & from what I gathered, it's tricky to romance him with a mage/pro-mage M!Hawke. Does anyone here have a link for a good guide for his romance? I think I'm gonna try the rival romance, seems a lot of people liked it here & and it make sens to me when people explain why they choose the rival romance. Thx for your help ^^ I loved it. I didn't use a specific guide, instead I referred to the rivalry portion of this wiki page, making sure to take Fenris along whenever a pro mage choice would net me some rivalry points. dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Fenris/ApprovalAs you've played it before you won't be spoilered by any of it, and leave him at home if you want to make a choice that would gain approval from him.
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Post by roivas on Sept 16, 2018 18:19:13 GMT
Hi! I'm more a Mass Effect fan than a DA, I think it's the first time I write a message on a DA forum ^^; I'm going to play DAII for the third time. Until now, I always romanced Anders. But this time, I want to try Fenris. I've read the first pages of this topic & from what I gathered, it's tricky to romance him with a mage/pro-mage M!Hawke. Does anyone here have a link for a good guide for his romance? I think I'm gonna try the rival romance, seems a lot of people liked it here & and it make sens to me when people explain why they choose the rival romance. Thx for your help ^^ I loved it. I didn't use a specific guide, instead I referred to the rivalry portion of this wiki page, making sure to take Fenris along whenever a pro mage choice would net me some rivalry points. dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Fenris/ApprovalAs you've played it before you won't be spoilered by any of it, and leave him at home if you want to make a choice that would gain approval from him. Ok, i'll check this, thx a lot
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Post by Catilina on Sept 16, 2018 18:28:48 GMT
Welcome here!
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Post by Catilina on Sept 16, 2018 19:51:49 GMT
Hi! I'm more a Mass Effect fan than a DA, I think it's the first time I write a message on a DA forum ^^; I'm going to play DAII for the third time. Until now, I always romanced Anders. But this time, I want to try Fenris. I've read the first pages of this topic & from what I gathered, it's tricky to romance him with a mage/pro-mage M!Hawke. Does anyone here have a link for a good guide for his romance? I think I'm gonna try the rival romance, seems a lot of people liked it here & and it make sens to me when people explain why they choose the rival romance. Thx for your help ^^ I don't use guides. Rivalmance Fenris as a pro-mage mage is pretty easy and you can max in Act 1. Just bring Fenris along on any mage quest and agree with the mages. When you go to the gallows for the first time, bring Fenris and for fun Merrill and Anders! I found Fenris interesting and fun to talk with and its easy to rack up friendship points with him so that part is tricky. Don't forget to visit him after his quest in Act 3 or you may lose the romance part. Fenris Haha, I found rivalry harder. I always need the Blade of Mercy to max it... (And now I go to harden Alistair – I want Loghain, but also Alistair on the Throne of Ferelden, with Anora.)
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Post by Catilina on Sept 16, 2018 20:33:30 GMT
Haha, I found rivalry harder. I always need the Blade of Mercy to max it... (And now I go to harden Alistair – I want Loghain, but also Alistair on the Throne of Ferelden, with Anora.) yeah Hawke has to do some not so nice things in order to get max rivalry by end of Act 1 . I like friendship with Fenris better but it is more difficult as a pro-mage Hawke. Is there a way to keep Alistair alive and on the Throne if you recruit Loghain? I've only either executed Loghain or Alistair leaves and becomes a drunk in Kirkwall - poor Alistair! Yes, it's possible, if he hardened. Eh, not that hard is the friendship, I maxed it at the beginning of the act2 Ralph missed only 5 points, and he achieved it when he visited Fenris first. And he started and planned as rival... I changed my mind... Try it: the timing and the quest order is more important than to keep him away from the critical quests! Hawke can be absolutely honest with him. This is the best! An interesting challenge, but sweet. (And I love if he not in romance offers his sword to Hawke! Seems I prefer the friendship not in romance...)
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Post by Catilina on Sept 20, 2018 10:30:14 GMT
Yes, it's possible, if he hardened.
Eh, not that hard is the friendship, I maxed it at the beginning of the act2 Ralph missed only 5 points, and he achieved it when he visited Fenris first. And he started and planned as rival... I changed my mind...
Try it: the timing and the quest order is more important than to keep him away from the critical quests! Hawke can be absolutely honest with him. This is the best! An interesting challenge, but sweet. (And I love if he not in romance offers his sword to Hawke! Seems I prefer the friendship not in romance...) Ah I will do that as I have a new Hawke waiting to get in Kirkwall How do you keep Hawke honest about being promage while bringing a friendship Fenris on mage quests and not get rivalry points? And can you get the romance scene if not reached 80% in act 2 cause if I put it off too long I get that alley scene. So Hawke gets rivalry points. But Hawke gets more friendship, this is the point if you bring him everywhere. Only in act 1, you need to be a little cautious – perhaps, but I was not with Ralph, because I wanted rivalry. Only not long before the Act2 I changed my mind – he gave friendship to Ralph risky and aggressive reactions, so I realized, that despite their disagreement in the mage issues, they have a similar mindset and a strong chemistry – but it's just aggressive Hawke. I only have two Hawkes who rivaled him (Wilhelm –purple– in romance, Georg –purple/red– not in romance), and only two, who not maxed the friendship with him totally, in my first PTs, not in romance (I never lost him). The others were in 100% friendship with him Stefan (purple/red – romance), Reinhardt (purple/red – not in romance), Ralph (red/purple – hmm – so, not in romance). I experienced, that, with a red Hawke it was easier. The romance scene only achievable at 100% – with the Act3 Questioning Beliefs. He doesn't trust Hawke enough if not in 100%. He's not that easy case! There are tricky quest: Feynriel in the Fade for example... Hawke can get more friendship here, and more rivalry – and don't need to let the sloth to possess Feynriel. Bring him to his personal quest first, and after to Feynriel's quest (you can avoid Marethari, if you bring him just later there – RP: Hawke can visit Arianni just alone – but this not necessary, just for sake of safety) – that establish his friendship, and give him the Book of Shartan! It's a very good start of the Act2.
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Post by roivas on Sept 20, 2018 17:01:15 GMT
So i read the 67 pages of post (not everything obviously XD) & that was quite interesting, I was conforted in the choice of the rivalmance^^. But I'm kinda confuse at the order of some quests (last time I played DA II must be like 5 years ago?? >.<), for that I've gathered, I can easily miss the sex scene & seems like it can happen at 2 different times depending of quest orders?? Kinda lost XD + seems like it'll not be that easy to get 100% rivalry, since I want to record my playthrough, I'll have to do some homework first @@. I'm still finishing my ME3 run (since I'm recording it on youtube, it takes times) before I get to DA II & try to romance Fenris. I also just bought DA2's DLC pack, never played any DA II dlc & I was wondering if there is some DLC I should avoid for the romance (I don't know when DLC pop in the game :x)?? Any tips? Also, when I read old posts I remember someone beeing really annoyed about the corpses in Fenris' house, not sure if that person is still reading the thread, but well, for you: www.nexusmods.com/dragonage2/mods/3989
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Post by Catilina on Sept 20, 2018 17:16:07 GMT
So i read the 67 pages of post (not everything obviously XD) & that was quite interesting, I was conforted in the choice of the rivalmance^^. But I'm kinda confuse at the order of some quests (last time I played DA II must be like 5 years ago?? >.<), for that I've gathered, I can easily miss the sex scene & seems like it can happen at 2 different times depending of quest orders?? Kinda lost XD + seems like it'll not be that easy to get 100% rivalry, since I want to record my playthrough, I'll have to do some homework first @@. I'm still finishing my ME3 run (since I'm recording it on youtube, it takes times) before I get to DA II & try to romance Fenris. I also just bought DA2's DLC pack, never played any DA II dlc & I was wondering if there is some DLC I should avoid for the romance (I don't know when DLC pop in the game :x)?? Any tips? Also, when I read old posts I remember someone beeing really annoyed about the corpses in Fenris' house, not sure if that person is still reading the threath, but well, for you: www.nexusmods.com/dragonage2/mods/3989No avoidable DLCs – Fenris is great with every DLC. It's good if you start the Legacy before his Act3 personal quest. It's just a cute dialogue, but worth it. (Legacy good in Act2 and Act3 as well.) MotA he's funnier than in Kirkwall (just as everyone – seems they relieved, in far from Kirkwall... it's like a family vacation) The Exiled Prince: He's great with Sebastian – good banters. The Black Emporium: Dog good with everyone... interesting/adorable scenes What personality will be Hawke? (Fenris' good with red!Hawke, but he loves purple!Hawkes lame jokes) The glowing romance scene (it happens rather in rivalry) Hawke speaks Fenris twice before he does his personal quest in the Act2.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Sept 20, 2018 18:41:07 GMT
But I'm kinda confuse at the order of some quests (last time I played DA II must be like 5 years ago?? >.<), for that I've gathered, I can easily miss the sex scene & seems like it can happen at 2 different times depending of quest orders?? Kinda lost XD Sort of. In order to get the romance sex scene later on, you have to have played his Act 2 Questioning Beliefs, where he talks about the anniversary of his escape. The romance path for this also includes suggestive dialogue about having sex and being in a relationship. Here's the thing. The opening of the sex scene can play out a bit differently depending on when you do his QB. The QB depends on the amount of friendship or rivalry. If you do it before his personal quest, when he comes to you after that to apologize for his behavior, if you pick the when he starts to leave, he will get defensive, glow a bit, and shove Hawke against the wall in a kiss. This is the "glowing kiss" option. If you do it after his personal quest, when he comes to you after that to apologize for his behavior he will just leave. Then you do the QB where he talks about his escape, and then he comes to the mansion later on, says he's been thinking about you, and asks if you want him to stay, leading to the sex scene. The good thing is that you can force-trigger his personal quest by going to the Bone Pit on the map; you will get the "slavers have finally caught up with Fenris!" encounter. Because of that, you can decide how you want the romance scene to play out, and when, according to your headcanon. I did not want the glowing kiss on my recent play. Or rather, for me it was more about the line he says on the non-glowing option: "I have been thinking of you. In fact, I have been able to think of little else. Command me to go, and I shall." If you ask him to stay, it's more of a mutual kiss, but still ends with Hawke pinning Fenris to the wall. This dynamic suited my headcanon more, and I like the idea that he's been thinking about Hawke since they had their suggestive conversation during his QB. So, for Act 2, you need to decide when you want to trigger his personal quest. IF you happen to have enough F/R to trigger his QB immediately when Act 2 starts (this is possible), you can save it until later if you want. If you want the glowing kiss, play QB before his personal quest. If you want the non-glowing kiss, save it until after his personal quest.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Sept 20, 2018 18:50:09 GMT
Finally caught up with Hawke in my current DAI play. About Fenris, he says, "Fenris would have killed himself to protect me. I didn't want to give him that chance."
Anyone have a headcanon for their Hawke leaving him behind? Taking from Hawke's line, I imagine they made these plans to travel, then Hawke just leaves without saying anything. Fenris would be pissed. Hawke knows Fenris would be pissed, but also that he'd forgive him eventually.
I can't really imagine them sitting down beforehand and having a reasonable conversation about Fenris remaining behind. It seems to me that Hawke knows Fenris would not accept that idea, so he resorts to that measure.
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Post by roivas on Sept 20, 2018 23:40:26 GMT
Ok i'm taking notes, thx for your answers ^^ Catilina I think he'll be red, i don't really remember what is purple, sarcastic? If i remember well it's kinda neutral & don't award friendship or rivalvry point? NightscrawlI'm going for the "not glowing kiss". So it is possible that the "sex scene" will be in act 3? It don't necessarily have to be in act 2? (excuse my english btw it's not my first language >.<)
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Post by Nightscrawl on Sept 21, 2018 0:16:40 GMT
I'm going for the "not glowing kiss". So it is possible that the "sex scene" will be in act 3? It don't necessarily have to be in act 2? (excuse my english btw it's not my first language >.<) No, you have to do that in Act 2. That's how his romance works. 1 So you would start Act 2 with the first "catch up with Fenris" conversation. 2 Whenever you want, go to the Bone Pit to trigger his personal quest and do that. 3 After you get his friendship or rivalry up (whichever path you decide), the Questioning Beliefs will appear in your log. Go do that. 4 After that, the next time you go to your mansion, Fenris will be waiting there and the sex scene will happen. All you need to do is make sure you get his F/R up, and do the Questioning Beliefs after his personal quest.
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Post by Catilina on Sept 21, 2018 0:21:55 GMT
Ok i'm taking notes, thx for your answers ^^ Catilina I think he'll be red, i don't really remember what is purple, sarcastic? If i remember well it's kinda neutral & don't award friendship or rivalvry point? Nightscrawl I'm going for the "not glowing kiss". So it is possible that the "sex scene" will be in act 3? It don't necessarily have to be in act 2? (excuse my english btw it's not my first language >.<) Diplomatic/helpful: blue/green, sarcastic/charming: purple, aggressive/direct: red.The purple one is more evasive (purple Hawke able to lie, red Hawke and blue aren't), some of the purple answers are "neutral", but it doesn't mean, these aren't hurt or without reaction (purple Hawke is very good with Fenris and Anders compensates their seriousness, and both react well). Sometimes the blue answers are the pro-mage answers, while the red ones the "every mage must be closed, immediately" – but NOT always. My red!Hawke is a radical pro-freedom (probably the most radical one). The sex scene happens in Act2, after his personal quest and the Questioning Beliefs (speak with him). I never succeeded the non-glowing kiss in rivalry and the glowing one in friendship (Probably, because at the Act1 I always had more rivalry, than friendship with Fenris, so, if I went for the rivalry, I got the talking scene before his quest, and when I went for the friendship, I needed to finish his personal quest before. (I love the glowing one, by the way. I like he's so passionate, not only my Hawke – but this perhaps just me.) But this is important: If you don't get the bed scene after the quest, you should back to his mansion for talking with him – I heard someone missed it! (Your English is okay, don't worry, I'm also not native English.)
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