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Post by colfoley on Jun 6, 2019 20:28:30 GMT
I voted Chosen One since you put the Inquisitor in that group. I included the Inquisitor in that group as a ln example of a chosen one. Not their role in 4. I vacillate between an anti-Chosen One average joe that kind of just stumbled into historical importance — where his special trait is the complete lack of any kind of special trait — OR a super smart and capable loyalist whose special trait is her dedication to duty, embodied in the Shadow Inquisition, where her handler is Charter. A loyalist totally opposed to genocide and fascism (whether the Qunari, Tevinter or ancient elven kind) and therefore motivated to end Solas once and for all. Though still open to a moral dilemma where the greater good, like defeating the Evanuris released by Solas’s botched ritual, and service to duty, might mean a temporary alliance with Solas rather than killing him out of hand. I’ve obviously put more thought into the second option. me too! I'd love working with Solas at the end of his redemption arc...if he gets one. If we go with training, I want a Rocky Balboa training montage complete with Eye of the TigerBy training I mean more occupation... but that would be fun.
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Post by cankiie on Jun 6, 2019 20:42:32 GMT
I think I may have missed something.
But was it not pretty much set up and confirmed that the Inquisitor just happened to be the victim of: "Wrong place wrong time" ? The whole "Andraste chose the Inquisitor!" thing was kinda thrown out the water, was it not?
Why do people point to the Inquisitor as a "chosen one" type of thing?
Anywho.
What should be special about the DA4 protagonist.
Hard to answer, I would love for Bioware to go back to what 'Origins' did, and decide your origin based on race and maybe chosen class.
Could they get something special down along the way? Probably.
Considering a new protagonist not in any way related to the Inquisitor... how about we take a Fenris template.
Give some new, cool markings to the protagonist... and an additional customization option where you decide how the marking should look, of course chosen from already made options, but you know what i mean.
This could go along with different "Origins" as well, but like in Dragon Age: Origins, it all ends in the same path, as a slave to some Danarius like magister, you eventually break free perhaps with the help from another mage, and throughout the escape you see lots of hellish things done by magisters and good things done by magisters giving you the opportunity to choose how your character will react to magisters of Tevinter from here on out.
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Post by theascendent on Jun 6, 2019 21:49:00 GMT
I suppose it depends on what kind of game we get. Will we be able to choose our race, or will we be forced to a human centric point of view like in DA2? (Don't get me wrong, I loved the more focused and down to earth origin with the Hawke family. In Origins chances are that most of the people you met in your prologue are dead, never seen /heard from, or only given the briefest of mentions/cameos. Not complaining, totally understand why it went that route, time and resources had to be managed.) Inquisition though was a whole together different issue, where it was a bizarre mixture of Origins and 2. Giving us the ability to choose but severely limiting what we could choose. However these decisions make sense as Inquisition was originally supposed to be a human only story like in 2 with other race choices that barely make sense. (Dalish Elf is a particularly infamous example). Rant aside if given the choice, I would prefer someone who would be an average Joe, a wildcard in the wrong place at the wrong time and it made abundantly and unambiguously clear of that. No savings at the last minute by Flemeth, no magical macguffins and certainly no 'acts of the Maker' . Just an ordinary person forced into extraordinary circumstances and situations.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 6, 2019 22:40:24 GMT
So perhaps unsurprisingly training has galloped ahead.
So my choices are:
Bloodlines: it may be cheap in a way but it does seem like fairly low hanging fruit that video games do well is to make your family important. It gives the protagonist small down to Earth motivations for caring so much and getting involved in the plot. Or for a side plot you discovering more about your family gives you an opportunity to flesh out your own character. Games like DA 2 The Witcher, Odyssey, and MEA all do this really well.
What I want specifically for 4 is that your family is somehow opposed to Solas, or they have a piece of the puzzle he needs to bring down the veil, or he just kills them because they were in the way. You swear vengeance giving you an excuse to get involved in stopping him and, as a subplot, discover more of the reasons why.
The obvious problem is some people get really uncomfortable when an RPG does any defining of your character.
Training: This can be used again to set up smaller stakes protagonists...as many people have mentioned.
If not the Inquisitor then you should be a an anti- Inquisitor ... at least at the start. They should be out just doing their job minding their own business, until they get caught in the crossfire between these gods and these heroes of legend. Then them being the one who solves things ultimately becomes its own thematic message.
If inquisitor: then the training can be that they know Solas, their adversary.
Ideology: who ever the protagonist is I want them to relate to Solas. If his arc is about redemption then I want the protagonist to be on a similar arc.
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Post by SwobyJ on Jun 6, 2019 23:01:46 GMT
I think I may have missed something. But was it not pretty much set up and confirmed that the Inquisitor just happened to be the victim of: "Wrong place wrong time" ? The whole "Andraste chose the Inquisitor!" thing was kinda thrown out the water, was it not? Why do people point to the Inquisitor as a "chosen one" type of thing? Anywho. What should be special about the DA4 protagonist. Hard to answer, I would love for Bioware to go back to what 'Origins' did, and decide your origin based on race and maybe chosen class. Could they get something special down along the way? Probably. Considering a new protagonist not in any way related to the Inquisitor... how about we take a Fenris template. Give some new, cool markings to the protagonist... and an additional customization option where you decide how the marking should look, of course chosen from already made options, but you know what i mean. This could go along with different "Origins" as well, but like in Dragon Age: Origins, it all ends in the same path, as a slave to some Danarius like magister, you eventually break free perhaps with the help from another mage, and throughout the escape you see lots of hellish things done by magisters and good things done by magisters giving you the opportunity to choose how your character will react to magisters of Tevinter from here on out. It was not thrown out. The Inquisitor will be considered the Herald of Andraste for years+ to come. And you can RP continuing to believe you are the Herald, essentially. Nothing Maker or Nu!Maker (this Inquisition offshoot I mean) was disproven outright in what might be required to shatter faith. BTW another reminder that Solas made the Veil, and the Chant does not say the Maker made the Veil, but only the separation itself between Fade and Thedas. These can be considered different things. Just because ancient magical elves and numerous spirits long ago had an existence flitting between the realms of Thedas and the Fade, doesn't mean there isn't a separation of the realms (that is, they're different). I bring this up as part of the idea that Andrastan ideas (including Inquistitor 'Chosen One') were disproven - no they were not. A faithful person/player/character can just decide they were given new knowledge and texture to a vague Maker's plan, along with fuel for doubt, but nothing more. Maker never returned, Andraste never returned, we're just her herald for when she may return (their returning, especially the Maker, being a still continuous Chantry hope), a sign that the Maker is starting to give the slightest of a damn anymore. Solas being a skeptic of the Maker can and should be balanced with his seemingly honest consideration of potential existence of the Maker as well.
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Post by yogsothoth on Jun 6, 2019 23:06:34 GMT
Bloodlines: I don't see how this could be feasible if race options are brought back. There's no logical way for a Human, Elf, Dwarf, and Qunari to all have the same bloodline phenomenon, and I doubt Bioware will want to write a unique bloodline trait for the four different races that is also equal in effect/outcome to the other three.
Keeper/ Discoverer of Ancient artifact: Nope, not interested in convenient Deus Ex MacGuffins.
Training/ circumstance: Solas is still a god-mage. They can train all they want, that isn't going to stop them from being turned to stone. (Short of their training/circumstance being anti-statufication/elf-god magic)
History with/ ideologically opposed to the antagonist: I would think it's safe to say the protagonist is going to be ideologically opposed to the antagonist, otherwise they wouldn't be protagonist/antagonist. As for history, the only ones that could have a history are Ancient Elves, and unless that's the only race option for the protagonist, probably isn't happening. Solas seems to doing his own thing without affecting anyone else beyond gathering elves, so no one (beyond Ancient Elves/former Inquisition members) should really have any beef with him at this point.
A bit of a mix between your Magic/Chosen One categories: I think an interesting idea would be for whatever Flemeth/Mythal pushed through the Eluvian before talking to Solas goes to the new protagonist. It could be a more interesting take on SAM from Andromeda, but hopefully without Flemeth/Mythal/whatever it is solving all of your problems and making you and your entire team redundant.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 6, 2019 23:16:53 GMT
Bloodlines: I don't see how this could be feasible if race options are brought back. There's no logical way for a Human, Elf, Dwarf, and Qunari to all have the same bloodline phenomenon, and I doubt Bioware will want to write a unique bloodline trait for the four different races that is also equal in effect/outcome to the other three. Keeper/ Discoverer of Ancient artifact: Nope, not interested in convenient Deus Ex MacGuffins. Training/ circumstance: Solas is still a god-mage. They can train all they want, that isn't going to stop them from being turned to stone. (Short of their training/circumstance being anti-statufication/elf-god magic) History with/ ideologically opposed to the antagonist: I would think it's safe to say the protagonist is going to be ideologically opposed to the antagonist, otherwise they wouldn't be protagonist/antagonist. As for history, the only ones that could have a history are Ancient Elves, and unless that's the only race option for the protagonist, probably isn't happening. Solas seems to doing his own thing without affecting anyone else beyond gathering elves, so no one (beyond Ancient Elves/former Inquisition members) should really have any beef with him at this point. A bit of a mix between your Magic/Chosen One categories: I think an interesting idea would be for whatever Flemeth/Mythal pushed through the Eluvian before talking to Solas goes to the new protagonist. It could be a more interesting take on SAM from Andromeda, but hopefully without Flemeth/Mythal/whatever it is solving all of your problems and making you and your entire team redundant. Admiteddly this is a problem with the whole bloodline angle and why it could work if they stuck with a human only protagonist because the more of the races they add, the more general and thinly spread the results could be. They could, in theory, leave it like Origins where all of the prospective protagonists have a family in the beginning and all of them have *something* or get killed by *someone* in the game which then encourages the protagonist to go on their adventure. But then the family aspect would probably be restricted to the Origin story...its possible it won't be but thatis the risk they run into.
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Post by yogsothoth on Jun 6, 2019 23:57:58 GMT
Admiteddly this is a problem with the whole bloodline angle and why it could work if they stuck with a human only protagonist because the more of the races they add, the more general and thinly spread the results could be. They could, in theory, leave it like Origins where all of the prospective protagonists have a family in the beginning and all of them have *something* or get killed by *someone* in the game which then encourages the protagonist to go on their adventure. But then the family aspect would probably be restricted to the Origin story...its possible it won't be but thatis the risk they run into. Don't get me wrong, the bloodline stuff isn't impossible. Off the top of my head, you could have the protagonist be a half-elf/half-whatever (or full elf) and their elf parent has lineage that makes them special in some way. The only problem is that there's no precedence for elf-traits appearing in half-elf children (Feynriel's elf-like appearance being acknowledged as an accident). As to your other point, I think the protagonists parents/family being murdered is a bit too cliche for my tastes.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 7, 2019 0:01:22 GMT
Admiteddly this is a problem with the whole bloodline angle and why it could work if they stuck with a human only protagonist because the more of the races they add, the more general and thinly spread the results could be. They could, in theory, leave it like Origins where all of the prospective protagonists have a family in the beginning and all of them have *something* or get killed by *someone* in the game which then encourages the protagonist to go on their adventure. But then the family aspect would probably be restricted to the Origin story...its possible it won't be but thatis the risk they run into. Don't get me wrong, the bloodline stuff isn't impossible. Off the top of my head, you could have the protagonist be a half-elf/half-whatever (or full elf) and their elf parent has lineage that makes them special in some way. The only problem is that there's no precedence for elf-traits appearing in half-elf children (Feynriel's elf-like appearance being acknowledged as an accident). As to your other point, I think the protagonists parents/family being murdered is a bit too cliche for my tastes. in the case of Elves one can be full blooded but the other a half brother half blood.
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Post by vertigomez on Jun 7, 2019 0:03:47 GMT
One option for a "bloodline" protag would be that each race has their own relevant thing... even in DAI, there was Cadash and the whole thing with Cad'halash and the elves, and ofc Shale being Shayle Cadash. And Trevelyan is a distant relative of Dorian's (and probably plenty of other nobles, like the Vaels and the Couslands and the Amells...).
And if it's not actual bloodlines, I could see connections liiiiike...
A human protagonist being of House Danarius, since that house was mentioned in Knight Errant (something about the red lyrium idol?) and there's nothing saying Danarius was the last of his line. Or even a survivor of Fenris's Danarius-induced Fog Warrior massacre. An elven protagonist could be one of the people kidnapped from Denerim's alienage (thanks Loghain), since, you know, it was specifically Tevinter slavers whisking them away. A dwarf protagonist could have connections to any of the dwarven houses, they could be a relative of Thorold and Varric (since we're probably gonna see Mae), their family could've been part of the Ambassadoria for centuries. A qunari protagonist could've served on Seheron with Sten or Bull, or fought against them as a Tal-Vashoth.
I dunno, I just like the little tie-ins that they do sometimes. Like Leliana meeting Adaia Tabris in Leliana's Song or Cadash being related to Shale.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jun 7, 2019 0:08:55 GMT
I picked ideology. I'm not interested in a protagonist who is chosen by others to be a hero. I want one who sees a problem and is proactive about fixing it.
But DA is all about defending the shitty established status quo from outside threats, so I don't see that happening.
My bet is that, if Solas is the main antagonist, as the teaser trailer seemed to imply, the protagonist will somehow have ancient elf blood or some event will imbue/awaken new powers in them.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 7, 2019 0:24:28 GMT
One option for a "bloodline" protag would be that each race has their own relevant thing... even in DAI, there was Cadash and the whole thing with Cad'halash and the elves, and ofc Shale being Shayle Cadash. And Trevelyan is a distant relative of Dorian's (and probably plenty of other nobles, like the Vaels and the Couslands and the Amells...). And if it's not actual bloodlines, I could see connections liiiiike... A human protagonist being of House Danarius, since that house was mentioned in Knight Errant (something about the red lyrium idol?) and there's nothing saying Danarius was the last of his line. Or even a survivor of Fenris's Danarius-induced Fog Warrior massacre. An elven protagonist could be one of the people kidnapped from Denerim's alienage (thanks Loghain), since, you know, it was specifically Tevinter slavers whisking them away. A dwarf protagonist could have connections to any of the dwarven houses, they could be a relative of Thorold and Varric (since we're probably gonna see Mae), their family could've been part of the Ambassadoria for centuries. A qunari protagonist could've served on Seheron with Sten or Bull, or fought against them as a Tal-Vashoth. I dunno, I just like the little tie-ins that they do sometimes. Like Leliana meeting Adaia Tabris in Leliana's Song or Cadash being related to Shale. Hawke was related to a mage warden so there is precedent.
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Post by cankiie on Jun 7, 2019 2:29:31 GMT
I think I may have missed something. But was it not pretty much set up and confirmed that the Inquisitor just happened to be the victim of: "Wrong place wrong time" ? The whole "Andraste chose the Inquisitor!" thing was kinda thrown out the water, was it not? Why do people point to the Inquisitor as a "chosen one" type of thing? Anywho. What should be special about the DA4 protagonist. Hard to answer, I would love for Bioware to go back to what 'Origins' did, and decide your origin based on race and maybe chosen class. Could they get something special down along the way? Probably. Considering a new protagonist not in any way related to the Inquisitor... how about we take a Fenris template. Give some new, cool markings to the protagonist... and an additional customization option where you decide how the marking should look, of course chosen from already made options, but you know what i mean. This could go along with different "Origins" as well, but like in Dragon Age: Origins, it all ends in the same path, as a slave to some Danarius like magister, you eventually break free perhaps with the help from another mage, and throughout the escape you see lots of hellish things done by magisters and good things done by magisters giving you the opportunity to choose how your character will react to magisters of Tevinter from here on out. It was not thrown out. The Inquisitor will be considered the Herald of Andraste for years+ to come. And you can RP continuing to believe you are the Herald, essentially. Nothing Maker or Nu!Maker (this Inquisition offshoot I mean) was disproven outright in what might be required to shatter faith. BTW another reminder that Solas made the Veil, and the Chant does not say the Maker made the Veil, but only the separation itself between Fade and Thedas. These can be considered different things. Just because ancient magical elves and numerous spirits long ago had an existence flitting between the realms of Thedas and the Fade, doesn't mean there isn't a separation of the realms (that is, they're different). I bring this up as part of the idea that Andrastan ideas (including Inquistitor 'Chosen One') were disproven - no they were not. A faithful person/player/character can just decide they were given new knowledge and texture to a vague Maker's plan, along with fuel for doubt, but nothing more. Maker never returned, Andraste never returned, we're just her herald for when she may return (their returning, especially the Maker, being a still continuous Chantry hope), a sign that the Maker is starting to give the slightest of a damn anymore. Solas being a skeptic of the Maker can and should be balanced with his seemingly honest consideration of potential existence of the Maker as well. As I said. I am clearly missing something. Because I am 99% sure that in the fade once you gather your memeory, your inquisitor discovers that what gave them that special mark was the elven-orb, and the inquisitor just happened to be at a place and pick up the orb which gave them the mark. Wrong place, wrong time, nothing divine about it. Regardless of what one chose the Inquisitor to believe, the above is absolute fact. The Inquisitor having the mark was not the result of fate, the choice of a divine, etc etc, it was merely coincidental. I do like that we were given the choice to continue the absolute faith if we wanted to though, while also given the choice to just say: "A shrug... I might not believe it, but THEY need to believe it" I do not like how if you chose to say: "Meh... it is not a divine thing" then you'll just get slapped and get nothing to say... you should be allowed to pick it and suffer consequences for picking it. Anywho. I assume people may be misremembering Dragon Age Inquisition, because as I mentioned, it was made 100% fact that the mark had nothing to do with divine intervention or any kind of "chosen one" kind of thing... just happenstance.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jun 7, 2019 2:44:04 GMT
It was not thrown out. The Inquisitor will be considered the Herald of Andraste for years+ to come. And you can RP continuing to believe you are the Herald, essentially. Nothing Maker or Nu!Maker (this Inquisition offshoot I mean) was disproven outright in what might be required to shatter faith. BTW another reminder that Solas made the Veil, and the Chant does not say the Maker made the Veil, but only the separation itself between Fade and Thedas. These can be considered different things. Just because ancient magical elves and numerous spirits long ago had an existence flitting between the realms of Thedas and the Fade, doesn't mean there isn't a separation of the realms (that is, they're different). I bring this up as part of the idea that Andrastan ideas (including Inquistitor 'Chosen One') were disproven - no they were not. A faithful person/player/character can just decide they were given new knowledge and texture to a vague Maker's plan, along with fuel for doubt, but nothing more. Maker never returned, Andraste never returned, we're just her herald for when she may return (their returning, especially the Maker, being a still continuous Chantry hope), a sign that the Maker is starting to give the slightest of a damn anymore. Solas being a skeptic of the Maker can and should be balanced with his seemingly honest consideration of potential existence of the Maker as well. As I said. I am clearly missing something. Because I am 99% sure that in the fade once you gather your memeory, your inquisitor discovers that what gave them that special mark was the elven-orb, and the inquisitor just happened to be at a place and pick up the orb which gave them the mark. Wrong place, wrong time, nothing divine about it. Regardless of what one chose the Inquisitor to believe, the above is absolute fact. The Inquisitor having the mark was not the result of fate, the choice of a divine, etc etc, it was merely coincidental. I do like that we were given the choice to continue the absolute faith if we wanted to though, while also given the choice to just say: "A shrug... I might not believe it, but THEY need to believe it" I do not like how if you chose to say: "Meh... it is not a divine thing" then you'll just get slapped and get nothing to say... you should be allowed to pick it and suffer consequences for picking it. Anywho. I assume people may be misremembering Dragon Age Inquisition, because as I mentioned, it was made 100% fact that the mark had nothing to do with divine intervention or any kind of "chosen one" kind of thing... just happenstance. Religions attribute coincidences to the actions of a divine intelligence literally all of the time, so...
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Post by melbella on Jun 7, 2019 2:50:02 GMT
Why is "Nothing" not an option?
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jun 7, 2019 3:29:38 GMT
Why is "Nothing" not an option? I'd argue that it's impossible to have a protagonist who isn't special in some way.
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Post by Blaze on Jun 7, 2019 3:39:05 GMT
Why is "Nothing" not an option? I'd argue that it's impossible to have a protagonist who isn't special in some way. why?
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Post by colfoley on Jun 7, 2019 3:44:47 GMT
Why is "Nothing" not an option? because there is a reason that a protagonist is the protagonist. That they are the main character and not Joe the goat farmer. Or Joe the goat farmer could be the protagonist but then that goes into training.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jun 7, 2019 3:49:10 GMT
I'd argue that it's impossible to have a protagonist who isn't special in some way. why? Because if they're not special, why the fuck am I reading a book/watching a movie/playing a game about them? This applies to all genres, btw, not just Fantasy. I don't mean "special" in the same way that most fantasy work applies it.
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Post by melbella on Jun 7, 2019 3:50:39 GMT
Why is "Nothing" not an option? because there is a reason that a protagonist is the protagonist. That they are the main character and not Joe the goat farmer. Or Joe the goat farmer could be the protagonist but then that goes into training.
I would argue that Hawke didn't have any special training, especially a non-mage Hawke, and none of the other options fit either. Hawke was a soldier in Cailan's army, like tons of other people, or an apostate, like tons of other people.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jun 7, 2019 4:20:47 GMT
because there is a reason that a protagonist is the protagonist. That they are the main character and not Joe the goat farmer. Or Joe the goat farmer could be the protagonist but then that goes into training.
I would argue that Hawke didn't have any special training, especially a non-mage Hawke, and none of the other options fit either. Hawke was a soldier in Cailan's army, like tons of other people, or an apostate, like tons of other people.
The options in the poll are definitely limiting, but also individually are very vague. Hawke is special, in my opinion, because he takes action when others don't. He has a problem, or sees a problem, and he takes steps to resolve it. Yes, anyone could have done it, but they didn't, or else the story would be about them. Also, it's worth pointing out that, however privileged or talented, all protagonists are just "ordinary people", living their ordinary lives, until the story elevates them to become the protagonist.
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Post by biggydx on Jun 7, 2019 4:20:48 GMT
Let me tear that god-complex down with a homegrown, self-trained ass-whoopin'
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Post by colfoley on Jun 7, 2019 4:44:19 GMT
because there is a reason that a protagonist is the protagonist. That they are the main character and not Joe the goat farmer. Or Joe the goat farmer could be the protagonist but then that goes into training.
I would argue that Hawke didn't have any special training, especially a non-mage Hawke, and none of the other options fit either. Hawke was a soldier in Cailan's army, like tons of other people, or an apostate, like tons of other people.
what panda said. I'd also add that the circumstances and relationships are what made Hawke special. Hawke was the only one who knew Varric, was the only one who worked with the Arishock and was the only one who was forced into a leadership role because of it AND the only one who also basically worked with Anders. Granted she might be a little bit of an anomaly but if you believe that DA2 was one giant Origin story for Hawke to become Inquisitor (and I do) the the whole of DA 2 was merely the story of the circumstances on why Hawke would've been the leader in 3.
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Post by Blaze on Jun 7, 2019 14:40:17 GMT
Because if they're not special, why the fuck am I reading a book/watching a movie/playing a game about them? This applies to all genres, btw, not just Fantasy. I don't mean "special" in the same way that most fantasy work applies it. because a person can be interesting without being "special", because a story can be captivating without the main character being a special snowflake. i'v read more than one story with the main character being just an average person that were interesting.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jun 7, 2019 15:34:35 GMT
Because if they're not special, why the fuck am I reading a book/watching a movie/playing a game about them? This applies to all genres, btw, not just Fantasy. I don't mean "special" in the same way that most fantasy work applies it. because a person can be interesting without being "special", because a story can be captivating without the main character being a special snowflake. i'v read more than one story with the main character being just an average person that were interesting. I explicitly said I wasn't using the term "special" to mean that the protagonist is imbued with any sort of powers or heritage or what have you. Even in a story with none of that shit, there's always a REASON why that character is the protagonist. The story must need them, or they wouldn't be there.
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