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Post by Iddy on Jun 7, 2019 19:31:24 GMT
You know, like the Warden and Hawke. And it's funny because s/he has technically achieved a lot more than those two combined.
Maybe it's because the feats s/he is known for (Closing the Breach and defeating Corypheus) were done with a borrowed power. Or because s/he gained fame and power from something that happened by accident.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2019 20:41:56 GMT
I think it's due to a less humourous script and lackluster personality.
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Post by boxofscreaming on Jun 7, 2019 21:22:32 GMT
Honestly, I only see the Warden as a figure of legend if they killed the Archdemon. If Alistair or Loghain killed it I think they're the one who'd go down in history.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 7, 2019 22:11:54 GMT
I feel that they are, more than the other DA protagonists.
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Post by Iddy on Jun 8, 2019 1:43:18 GMT
I think it's due to a less humourous script and lackluster personality. You're talking about entertainment. I'm talking about being impressive.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2019 2:12:51 GMT
You're talking about entertainment. I'm talking about being impressive. Being able to talk smack to your enemies and come up with witty retorts creates a greater illusion of badassness. Take two people with same achievements, the one who's got better sarcasm gets ranked higher.
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Post by vertigomez on Jun 8, 2019 2:37:10 GMT
I think it's due to a less humourous script and lackluster personality. Yeah, charisma goes a long way. How do you think Hawke acquired all those ride-or-die homies without the immediate threat of a Blight/Breach forcing everyone together? 😋 - As for the OP..... do you mean that you just don't find the Inquisitor inspiring? Putting aside the Anchor and all that, my Inquisitor went around helping refugees and put her soldiers to work building watchtowers and guarding caravans; maybe not the stuff of legend, but why does it have to be? As Sera puts it, "Not everything has to be torn skies and ancient arseholes. Every little thing makes a difference somewhere." Cassandra and co. don't put you in charge because you have a glowing green hand. They put you in charge because you stepped up - "the Inquisition needs a leader. The one who's already been leading it." I think, as with Ameridan, the Inquisition is going to be remembered long after the Inquisitor is forgotten. Or maybe I just don't care much about being legendary. I like to think my Inquisitor's going to retire to the countryside with goats. Maybe grow some veggies.
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Post by Sundance31us on Jun 8, 2019 4:13:41 GMT
Maybe it's because there is no brothel in DAI?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2019 14:51:40 GMT
As for the OP..... do you mean that you just don't find the Inquisitor inspiring? I meant this in a direct way. I believe great many conversation choices for Inky are generic. They're aimed at marking her personality or putting points into future decisions, however, they ignore the witty or creative or interesting aspect of it. For ex at the start Cass is raging HOW DARE YOU BLOW UP THE WORLD!!! Inky responses are: oh noes so many people died - sad wth you think I did that?? - angry what's going on - confused All these lines, they kind of emoticons, they're not clever. They're very bland. Saying, 'Dang the world's in disrepair? I guess I won't get a final meal before an execution for a thing which I don't remember doing.' would have been better then plain, 'I don't know what's going on.'
So, yes, as a result of her not having these witty lines her inspiration points go down as well as the legend level.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2019 16:08:25 GMT
Or maybe I just don't care much about being legendary. I like to think my Inquisitor's going to retire to the countryside with goats. Maybe grow some veggies. My Inky is planning to retire to a farm with Cullen and his Mabari. "Not everything has to be torn skies and ancient arseholes. Every little thing makes a difference somewhere." I do believe I've heard it somewhere. Gandalf: “Saruman believes it is only great power that can hold evil in check, but that is not what I have found. It is the small everyday deeds of ordinary folk that keep the darkness at bay. Small acts of kindness and love. Why Bilbo Baggins? Perhaps because I am afraid, and he gives me courage.”
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 8, 2019 19:06:08 GMT
I think that may have been deliberate on the part of the writers. Your Inquisitor doesn't feel like a person of legend because when the story is told, the person you created will shrink into the background and the "mythic" persona will take their place. It was already happening during the game. The rallying cry for our troops continued to be "For the Herald (of Andraste)" long after we had discovered that we were nothing of the sort. By the end of Trespasser even the thing that had made them "special" and distinctive has been taken away. To future generations they will be whatever the Divine of the time and Chantry decide to portray them to be and the real person will be forgotten, just as Ameridan was. In every respect the story of our Inquisitor and the Inquisition mirrored what happened with the original one.
By contrast the Hero of Ferelden will be remembered for ending the Blight no matter how this was achieved. Even if they didn't strike the killing blow on the arch-demon it is possible that overtime people may even forget who did but even if they do not, the Hero was still vital to the victory. For me it seemed that without the leadership of our Hero the outcome would have been very different and that was down to their personality, not some special power that had been bestowed upon them by accident.
Likewise with Hawke, they will always be remembered as the Champion of Kirkwall, who faced down the Arishok even if they didn't actually defeat him in single combat (mine always did). For me, just as with the Hero, I felt that it was the personality of my Hawke which enabled them to build their lives from nothing to the most powerful and influential person in the city.
The problem for me with the Inquisitor was the knowledge that the "myth" that had been created around them was constantly overshadowing the real person. No matter what their personal belief or how they wanted to be known, this was always overruled. As I say above, this was probably deliberate on the part of the writers but it is why I don't feel that my Inquisitor was a figure of legend in the way the other two were.
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Post by Doominike on Aug 9, 2019 14:29:41 GMT
You have plenty of fame and recognition in DAI, even a bunch of comments on how you kill so many people and things. But you don't seem to be acknowledged as a powerhouse individually like the Warden and Hawke were. Like everyone is apparently sure you can take Corypheus in a fight but they don't make the link that rivaling a world-threatening godlike being means you're also godlike.
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Post by Iddy on Aug 9, 2019 14:37:58 GMT
You have plenty of fame and recognition in DAI, even a bunch of comments on how you kill so many people and things. But you don't seem to be acknowledged as a powerhouse individually like the Warden and Hawke were. Like everyone is apparently sure you can take Corypheus in a fight but they don't make the link that rivaling a world-threatening godlike being means you're also godlike. Hell, Cassandra says that since you've never fought Corypheus before, it's hard to know whether you can beat him in a fight. Thanks for the vote of confidence, Seeker.
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Post by Doominike on Aug 9, 2019 14:47:19 GMT
Ya, Cassandra expresses some doubt (though doubt is kind of her character thing in DAI) but no one else as far as I can remember. Most NPCs just never bring it up as if it's a non-issue and those that do, like Iron Bull, are just "Yup, totes gonna kill this immortal god no problem".
Edit: Even Cassandra kinda acknowledges that you rival him, cause she's merely unsure, as in there's a chance you could win, she's not saying "He's a god, you can't take him in a fight period". She unironically says "There's a chance you might not beat an world-threatening immortal god-being"
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Post by LogicGunn on Aug 29, 2019 14:18:04 GMT
I think the inquisitor is just a person, but the myth of the inquisitor is absolutely a figure of legend.
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