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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2019 20:55:38 GMT
Shepard is just like any human. He does not have super human strength, steel for bones, and can't withstand 100+ bullets flying at him and continue to cause destruction without resting.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Nov 10, 2019 20:59:03 GMT
Shepard is just like any human. He does not have super human strength, steel for bones, and can't withstand 100+ bullets flying at him and continue to cause destruction without resting. But what about tech attacks and biotic attacks? Like hacking or biotic combos.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 10, 2019 21:21:17 GMT
Shepard is just like any human. He does not have super human strength, steel for bones, and can't withstand 100+ bullets flying at him and continue to cause destruction without resting. Apparently Shepard is strong enough to survive being shot by Harbinger.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 10, 2019 21:30:51 GMT
Guns in Mass Effect would rip apart Terminators like a hot knife through butter, and add tech and biotic abilities and it is no contest.
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Post by NotN7 on Nov 10, 2019 21:57:13 GMT
sorry but my version is different, Shepard is in a near death situation in ME3 whether the writers intended it or not from my research and looking at the game the story got screwed up because someone lost track of the story at the end, sadly it was a poor prestation of near death story telling so take it for what you will
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Post by Son of Dorn on Nov 10, 2019 22:12:56 GMT
Shepard is just like any human. He does not have super human strength, steel for bones, and can't withstand 100+ bullets flying at him and continue to cause destruction without resting. Apparently Shepard is strong enough to survive being shot by Harbinger. Yeah, that bit was a bit stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2019 22:14:22 GMT
But what about tech attacks and biotic attacks? Like hacking or biotic combos. Those are implants.
As for Shepard being shot by Harbinger. It wasn't a direct shot. Shepard died after being directly shot by the Rannoch Reaper.
Besides, Harbinger doesn't want to kill Shepard.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Nov 10, 2019 22:17:38 GMT
But what about tech attacks and biotic attacks? Like hacking or biotic combos. Those are implants. So they would have little effect then?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2019 22:51:56 GMT
I think you should start a new thread to discuss this.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 13, 2019 10:37:19 GMT
Oh, and that "super soldier" project we never learned the outcome of. Part of it became Lazarus, didn't it?
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Post by griffith82 on Nov 24, 2019 3:28:06 GMT
Shepard is just like any human. He does not have super human strength, steel for bones, and can't withstand 100+ bullets flying at him and continue to cause destruction without resting. Apparently Shepard is strong enough to survive being shot by Harbinger. That wasn't a direct shot.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Nov 24, 2019 10:12:54 GMT
Oh, and that "super soldier" project we never learned the outcome of. Part of it became Lazarus, didn't it? Don't rightly know. Nothing is mentioned about it post ME1.
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Post by skekSil on Nov 24, 2019 13:02:09 GMT
Maybe it won't star Shepard, but no Shepard at all? What about old squadmates? I've mentioned this in my Reaper thread that it is possible for Andromeda protagonists to meet Grunt and Liara since they could still be alive 600 years later. Shepard is a possibility too if Control ending is canon, but thats unlikely, never going to happen.
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Post by Iakus on Nov 24, 2019 16:54:23 GMT
Apparently Shepard is strong enough to survive being shot by Harbinger. That wasn't a direct shot. Yeah he didn't take a direct hit from a weapon capable of sheering through a warship...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2019 17:17:26 GMT
That wasn't a direct shot. Yeah he didn't take a direct hit from a weapon capable of sheering through a warship... He wasn't the only one that survived the hit... Anderson survived it as well; and Coats survived for a time before collapsing as Shepard came to.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 24, 2019 17:36:21 GMT
Anderson survived being shot by Harbinger? Yet there is no damage seen on him or his armor when seeing him by the console? Coates collapes after surviving? Yet the player can hear his voice clearly saying negative, our entire force has been decimated.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2019 18:04:07 GMT
Anderson survived being shot by Harbinger? Yet there is no damage seen on him or his armor when seeing him by the console? Coates collapes after surviving? Yet the player can hear his voice clearly saying negative, our entire force has been decimated. Well, if it isn't Coats, it's another soldier who looked very much like him that was seen crawling towards Shepard after Shepard comes to. That soldier seemingly died a little later but did survive the laser blast itself; that is, he was not vaporized by the blast. Coats' dialogue ends before that soldier is seen collapsing face down.
Anderson started the run towards the beam with Shepard, so he survived at least one of those laser blasts, if not the precise one that hit Shepard.
Harbinger's blast was not a direct hit on Shepard. It clearly hit in front of him and then moves towards him, but the screen goes white before it actually reaches him... so it's only your assumption that he was hit directly. Shepard was injured and knocked out by the AOE damage. The blast that knocked him out was merely closer than the ones that he dodged prior to that point.
It is possible that Reapers can control the intensity of their laser blasts. They may use a different sort of blast when firing on a ship as opposed to when firing on a group of running humans. The vehicle that is hit by the blast is flipped, but not melted either.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2019 20:45:28 GMT
Harbinger wants Shepard alive to turn him into a Reaper agent. It wouldn't just kill him with its laser. It even waited patiently while you said goodbye to your squadmembers during the Normandy evac scene.
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Post by Phantom on Nov 24, 2019 21:30:39 GMT
Harbinger wants Shepard alive to turn him into a Reaper agent. It wouldn't just kill him with its laser. It even waited patiently while you said goodbye to your squadmembers during the Normandy evac scene. Well As much as it could be an interesting twist if they do another Shepard game that Harbinger did actually indoctrinated Shepard. Yes there will be salt by the fans because of Player agency.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Nov 24, 2019 21:45:18 GMT
Harbinger wants Shepard alive to turn him into a Reaper agent. It wouldn't just kill him with its laser. It even waited patiently while you said goodbye to your squadmembers during the Normandy evac scene. Yeah I agree Harbinger even asid to the collectors in ME2 t opreserve Shep's body if they can kill him or her but preserve their body.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2019 22:09:49 GMT
Harbinger wants Shepard alive to turn him into a Reaper agent. It wouldn't just kill him with its laser. It even waited patiently while you said goodbye to your squadmembers during the Normandy evac scene. Well As much as it could be an interesting twist if they do another Shepard game that Harbinger did actually indoctrinated Shepard. Yes there will be salt by the fans because of Player agency. Bioware will never tell the player they are indoctrinated. Just like Sovereign never told Saren that it was indoctrinating him. He had no clue, and despite Shepard telling him directly that he was, Saren still didn't believe it. Same with TIM. Despite all the symptoms and evidence put in the game by Bioware and teased in their trailers, most of the indoctrinated literalists didn't believe they were being indoctrinated either.
Also, fans should realize by now that this game trilogy has been on rails from the start. There was no such thing as player agency. Mass Effect is like a choose your own adventure book. You can make choices and flip to page 30 to find out the outcome of the choice. However, you cannot ask the writer of the book to write new choices and such because you want to have done something differently. That's not how it works. They are predefined choices and predefined outcomes determined by whoever wrote the book.
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Post by kalreegar on Nov 24, 2019 22:37:37 GMT
A game with shepard as main character? Not necessarily, maybe not. A game focused on the normandy and it's old crew, or at least part of it? HELL YEAH
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2019 22:39:46 GMT
Normandy crew went into retirement after ME3. They were recruited first to help stop the Collectors. Then in ME3 some helped directly or indirectly with the Reaper threat. Then that's basically it for them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2019 23:49:46 GMT
Harbinger wants Shepard alive to turn him into a Reaper agent. It wouldn't just kill him with its laser. It even waited patiently while you said goodbye to your squadmembers during the Normandy evac scene. The whole scene with the group running to the beam shows that Harbinger isn't specifically targeting single individuals. In fact, he is missing most of his shots if he is targeting specific individuals. He appears to be more successfully targeting the vehicles.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2019 0:05:29 GMT
Some people didn't get incinerated, because Harbinger or any of the Reapers don't have a semi-automatic laser. It could have fired on the Normandy while your squad was being picked up, but it didn't. That scene lasted a couple minutes.
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