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Post by Solas on Sept 27, 2019 20:03:44 GMT
I wonder if mage hunter Fenris has ever crossed paths with magekiller Marius. He will. It's almost like he's evolved Pokemon style from Lyrium Ghost into Blue Wraith What a great way to phrase it. We picked the name to evoke the Lyrium Ghost powerset, but make it something the mages and slavers of Tevinter whisper in terror... Glad Nunzio and Weir are back as writers on the creative team of another comic, it was really cool last time when he/they came onto the forum and answered questions/clarified some things/even gave us some new or additional bits of information. maybe they will again this time 🙏 Always happy to answer what I can. Oooh, Mr DeFilippis!! Thank you Looking forwards to the interactions between Fenris and Marius it's an interesting premise. also looking forwards to seeing what Fenris makes of Vaea. That's so badass.. hope slavers quiver in fear ! it reminds me of Zuko's 'Blue Spirit' alterego in Avatar. if the backdrop is Qunari invading, maybe Fenris' ability to speak Qunlat will come in handy.
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Post by vertigomez on Sept 27, 2019 20:15:22 GMT
Well, color me excited! A bit nervous, too, but that's to be expected, since Fenris is a character we haven't seen since 2011 (aside from Varric/Hawke mentioning him in DAI). I'm going into this with an open mind. Undercuts are popular in Thedas, aren't they?
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Post by Solas on Sept 27, 2019 20:39:36 GMT
Here's a question nunziodefilippis , was it always Fenris you guys envisaged for this role in this arc, or did you have several potential characters in mind? What drew you to/appeals about Fenris, and if there were multiple possibilities, what's the process for narrowing it down to one? Do Bioware give you several options to choose from or..? Thank you
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Sept 27, 2019 20:59:14 GMT
part of me loves having more Fenris...but the other part of me fears for his role in the next game (if he has one) I don't want him to get hurt (then again most of the comics and books aren't considered canon aside from a few mentions here and there, so perhaps I have nothing to fear ) makes me wonder...if Fenris romances Hawke (like he does in my canon) would he be with Hawke during the events of DA4? (provided Hawke survived Inquisition that is)
at any rate, I'll have me some more Dragon Age...which reminds me I still need to buy the Deception comic also January? huh...my birthday is in that month, maybe a nice b-day gift to myself
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Post by theascendent on Sept 27, 2019 21:42:23 GMT
A new comic series is always welcome to speculate and theorise on what might be happening in Thedas. We know it takes place after the events of Deception, the fall of Ventus/Qarinus, and stars Fenris and the newcomer Francesca Invidus (the ginger mage girl from Deception). Curious to see the state of Tevinter following the onset of total war with the Qunari, who is Fenris working for and what new lore will be introduced. Can never have enough Tevinter.
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Post by Buckeldemon on Sept 27, 2019 22:18:46 GMT
So we know some characters, but given Fenris' attitudes about ('vint) mages, I wonder where he ends up. Oh, and on a side note, I'm not inclined to ruin anybody's fun in here, but I hope that the new supplemental material does not end up as a "must read" if one is to understand what is happening in DA4. DAI's orlesian civil war leaves quite some question marks for those who did not knew about The Masked Empire. On another note, now that one "extreme opinion" DA2 elf (who may die) gets more coverage, what about Merrill? Wanna see Merrill again.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Sept 27, 2019 23:15:54 GMT
Christina and I wrote Fenris based off of our knowledge of the character via the games, and via discussions with the Bioware team about where he was now, what he was up to. We came up with a take on how the years have treated him, and ran it by the Bioware team, and they signed off. We did not contact David Gaider. I'm hoping you will be vague regarding possible Hawke romance... Fenris is my Hawke's LI. Some of my headcanon is already screwed over with this, but not having it damaged too much would be nice. I'm certainly not suggesting that you're responsible for maintaining my headcanon, but it's easier when established characters aren't used in this way. And before people start crowing to me about Alistair and co. in the first run of comics, that doesn't match my canon either, but *those* didn't appear to have a connection to the following game. And in fact they didn't. That's not the case with these. I feel like I'm the only person not excited by his inclusion.
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Post by vertigomez on Sept 28, 2019 0:06:30 GMT
I feel like I'm the only person not excited by his inclusion. I have the same worries you've expressed, but at the end of the day Bioware owns the content and their vision > fan headcanon. People romancing Leliana in DAO didn't expect her to run off and become the Left Hand of the Divine and potentially the Divine herself - they either adjusted their headcanons, ignored the canon, or went off and romanced someone else. I imagine, like with the other comics and novels, they will try to stay as romance-neutral and vague as possible and just focus on the immediate story. Fenris-mancers, like Isabela romancers and Alistair romancers when 'Those Who Speak' came out, we'll just kinda have to.... find wiggle room with what we're given.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Sept 28, 2019 0:38:31 GMT
I have the same worries you've expressed, but at the end of the day Bioware owns the content and their vision > fan headcanon. People romancing Leliana in DAO didn't expect her to run off and become the Left Hand of the Divine and potentially the Divine herself - they either adjusted their headcanons, ignored the canon, or went off and romanced someone else. I know all of that. Doesn't change how I feel about it. I even specifically said, "I'm certainly not suggesting that you're responsible for maintaining my headcanon." We're in a somewhat unique position here in that we can speak with one of the creators directly, and possibly get a response, which is why I made the post in the first place. I normally wouldn't post whining about something over which I have no control.
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Post by phoray on Sept 28, 2019 2:39:43 GMT
*gasp* what if Fenris is the Macguffin that ends Solas?
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Post by Buckeldemon on Sept 28, 2019 3:09:49 GMT
*gasp* what if Fenris is the Macguffin that ends Solas? What if Fenris is the MacGuffin that Solas needs to destroy the Veil?
And what happens if, in one worldstate, Fenris died at the Gallows? (Come on, it is fairly easy to get that, especially on the first playthrough and going mage Hawke)
If Fenris does not get a major upgrade (I love that idea about Pokemon evolution which came up in the other thread, by the way.), I suspect that Solas will turn him into some nice piece of stoncrafting. Or something in between, like an elf golem.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Sept 28, 2019 3:38:07 GMT
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Post by nunziodefilippis on Sept 28, 2019 4:07:21 GMT
Looking forwards to the interactions between Fenris and Marius it's an interesting premise. also looking forwards to seeing what Fenris makes of Vaea. You'll get to see the latter a lot sooner than the former, because Vaea and Fenris (and Francesca) are at the heart of the story in Blue Wraith, and Marius will be in a different part of the story. That's so badass.. hope slavers quiver in fear ! it reminds me of Zuko's 'Blue Spirit' alterego in Avatar. Christina and I are always up for a good Avatar homage. Though it's mostly in the name here. Here's a question nunziodefilippis , was it always Fenris you guys envisaged for this role in this arc, or did you have several potential characters in mind? What drew you to/appeals about Fenris, and if there were multiple possibilities, what's the process for narrowing it down to one? Do Bioware give you several options to choose from or..? Thank you Our trajectory on Dragon Age stories has had a few twists and turns. We pitched Knight Errant as a standalone, and then wrote it with a hook for future stories. Once everyone was happy with how that came out, we pitched a series of miniseries to follow the story into Tevinter. We always knew this second one would feature Fenris. But the story itself evolved over time, especially once we decided Francesca was going to join the group and become a major character. When we pitch ideas, we will also pitch the possibility of using specific canon characters. So we pitched this idea as a Fenris idea, and they loved the notion of bringing him back. So as the story changed, the one constant we knew we'd keep in place was him. And in general, they don't give us characters to choose from. They let us pitch, and then decide about who we're asking for and what we want to do with them. So we asked specifically for Varric and Sebastian in KE, and asked for Dorian in Deception. And then we asked for Fenris here. On another note, now that one "extreme opinion" DA2 elf (who may die) gets more coverage, what about Merrill? Wanna see Merrill again. I'd love to write Merrill someday. She's another favorite for me. I'm hoping you will be vague regarding possible Hawke romance... Fenris is my Hawke's LI. Some of my headcanon is already screwed over with this, but not having it damaged too much would be nice. I'm certainly not suggesting that you're responsible for maintaining my headcanon, but it's easier when established characters aren't used in this way. We use the Bioware default canon, which means Fenris stayed with Hawke and company until the events at the end of DA2, and then everyone went their separate ways. We did not write this as if Fenris and Hawke were a couple, but we do not reference romance at all for him. Just the fact that he used to travel with that group and doesn't any longer. I feel like I'm the only person not excited by his inclusion. Sorry to hear that. I hope you check it out and I hope it wins you over.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Sept 28, 2019 4:12:13 GMT
We did not write this as if Fenris and Hawke were a couple, but we do not reference romance at all for him. Just the fact that he used to travel with that group and doesn't any longer. Thanks for the response. I'll still buy it, too much of a Dragon Age fan to do otherwise. It's the only game franchise I'm willing to spend all the money for.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 28, 2019 4:23:00 GMT
On another note, now that one "extreme opinion" DA2 elf (who may die) gets more coverage, what about Merrill? Wanna see Merrill again. I'd love to write Merrill someday. She's another favorite for me. Ooh, I would love a story with my two favorite elves and second/third favorite DA characters overall. Especially with the other characters that are climbing up the ranks for me like Francesca.
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Post by Solas on Sept 28, 2019 11:51:41 GMT
I see! Thank you once again for the answer and response nunziodefilippis it's interesting to hear about the process and what was set from the beginning, what changed during the making of it, etc. and thank you for the Fenris content he's a long-missed fandom fav.
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Post by witchcocktor on Sept 28, 2019 14:16:54 GMT
I feel like it's pretty ambitious to write a comic about such a popular character, who is romanceable no less. If your portrayal doesn't please the fans, brace yourselves.
I personally enjoy comics and written works of new characters that don't exist in-game, or side characters. It expands the entirety of Dragon Age universe, instead of expanding a specific well known character. But I'm sure this is going to be fine regardless of my taste.
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Post by apollexander on Sept 28, 2019 14:24:59 GMT
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Sept 28, 2019 15:11:38 GMT
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Sept 28, 2019 15:22:13 GMT
Can't really say no to the opportunity of seeing the first new Fenris stuff since 2011. Me too and lets hope we haven´t wait another 8-10 years to see more of Fenris after this comic. But i believe that we will see him in DA 4 and of course Fenris won´t be killed of in a comic series.
Why? I really like Merrill but sorry no thanks. I don´t need more drama for Merrill. She should stay in Kirkwall.
And i also have three questions nunziodefilippis. Will we see Fenris sister Varania and/or also her (possible former) master Ahriman.
Will you explore more Fenris past in flashblacks when he was just Leto?
And we show more the Qunari side of the war? Maybe iam wrong with this assumption but isn´t the currently portray of the war only one sided in favour of Tevinter? Therefore i would love more Qunari characters who aren´t villains. Maybe it is a little much to ask but i really wish that Vaea & gang would interact with Tallis in the future.
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Post by melbella on Sept 28, 2019 16:45:39 GMT
Therefore i would love more Qunari characters who aren´t villains. The qunari are an invading force. Regardless one's opinion of Tevinter, the qunari are the villians here.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Sept 28, 2019 16:59:42 GMT
Therefore i would love more Qunari characters who aren´t villains. The qunari are an invading force. Regardless one's opinion of Tevinter, the qunari are the villians here. Yepper. In addition, any sort of more moderate person, like Tallis, would be portrayed as having views that are not representative of the overall Qunari ethos -- because they're not. Even in Mark of the Assassin, she is portrayed an an outlier. Sten is more typical; he is a true believer.
In addition, the two characters that have been shown to be more independent thinkers, Tallis and Iron Bull, who don't necessarily agree with all Qunari methods, still go along with the Demands of the Qun. It is the player who pushes Iron Bull into the circumstance where he leaves the Qun. Some might point out that he was already sliding in that direction, but (1) the Qunari have ways to deal with that, and (2) we can never know if he would eventually have left on his own. He may have been satisfied to continue his "out of sight, out of mind" existence, happy to send his occasional reports and receive intelligence, but operating under a certain amount of freedom that he did not have in Par Vollen.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Sept 28, 2019 20:09:14 GMT
So, I posted this reaction in the schmooples thread, but I thought perhaps the comic writers might get a chuckle out of seeing a reaction to the announcement and they might not be in that thread, so: The qunari are an invading force. Regardless one's opinion of Tevinter, the qunari are the villians here. Yepper. In addition, any sort of more moderate person, like Tallis, would be portrayed as having views that are not representative of the overall Qunari ethos -- because they're not. Even in Mark of the Assassin, she is portrayed an an outlier. Sten is more typical; he is a true believer.
In addition, the two characters that have been shown to be more independent thinkers, Tallis and Iron Bull, who don't necessarily agree with all Qunari methods, still go along with the Demands of the Qun. It is the player who pushes Iron Bull into the circumstance where he leaves the Qun. Some might point out that he was already sliding in that direction, but (1) the Qunari have ways to deal with that, and (2) we can never know if he would eventually have left on his own. He may have been satisfied to continue his "out of sight, out of mind" existence, happy to send his occasional reports and receive intelligence, but operating under a certain amount of freedom that he did not have in Par Vollen.
I'm hoping the upcoming Tevinter Nights stories show the Qun on its home turf. Cus I completely agree with the above and I want to see more of it to get a clearer picture of our opponents. Gimme that baker's story, Bioware! (After the lovely comic series this thread is about, of course. )
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Sept 29, 2019 1:54:58 GMT
I'd love to write Merrill someday. She's another favorite for me. You have excellent taste in elves.
I'm excited to see Fenris again, and I'd love to get a look at what Merrill is up to some time in the future.
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Post by Reznore on Sept 29, 2019 8:57:13 GMT
Well...it's not Fenris and Shale sassy adventures. But as long as Fenris still is somewhat deliciously deadpan at times, I'm probably going to enjoy this.
Although Marius and Fenris potentially in the same room...I imagine lots of glares, lots of monosyllabic talk and brooding. And corpses. Did I mention brooding?
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