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Post by Iddy on Nov 18, 2019 11:43:45 GMT
Anyone here who's read The World of Thedas know if that's ever been revealed?
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Post by Nightscrawl on Nov 18, 2019 16:07:13 GMT
Dorian is 30, which is in WoT2. In a tweet, Laidlaw said that Sera is 20. Aside from that, I don't know.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 18, 2019 16:40:15 GMT
Dragon Age: Origins Dog: ? Alistair: born 9:10 Morrigan:? Leliana:? Sten: ? Zevran: 9:04 or 9:05 Oghren: ? Wynne: born 8:81 Shale: created in -255 Mhairi: ? Nathaniel: born 9:00 or 9:01 Velanna: ? Sigrun: ? Justice: ? Anders: ?
Dragon Age 2: Bethany: born 9:11 Carver: born 9:11 Aveline: ? Varric: born 9:1 Merrill: ? Isabela: ? Fenris: ? Sebastian: 9:09 or 9:10 Tallis: ?
Dragon Age: Inquisition Cassandra: born 9:03 or 9:04 Solas: ? Josephine: born in 9:12 to 9:14 (writer said her age range was 27-29 in the game before Trespasser) Cullen: born in 9:11 Sera: born in 9:21 (according to the tweet mentioned) Vivienne: ? The Iron Bull: ? Thom Rainier: ? Cole: ? (appears no older than 20 according to Evangeline's description) Dorian: born 9:11
I think the devs have tweeted age ranges for a few of the others, but I can't find them. The best I can recall, Morrigan and Leliana are in their twenties, Merrill was early twenties, Thom was in his forties, and The Iron Bull in his late thirties.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Nov 18, 2019 18:27:57 GMT
^ I would like to add Zevran, who was born in 9:04 or 9:05 Dragon I also think it might be possible to guess Leliana's age based on some of the information given we know her mother served an Orlesian noble (Cecile) during the occupation of Ferelden, who left after Maric + Loghain defeated the Orlesians her mother died when Leliana was four years old, the Orlesian occupation ended in 9:02 Dragon, during which Leliana was already born so I think Leliana is likely born at either the start of the Dragon age (9:00 Dragon) or slightly before that (8:98-8:99 Blessed) by I'm guessing Leliana is either the same age as Nathaniel Howe (born in 9:00-9:01 Dragon) or slightly older
after all she says in dialogue with Wynne that she's older then she seems, whether she means by actual age or by what she went through is a guess I think
edit: also adding Sebastian
Sebastian is stated to have been 28 by the end of DA2 which takes place in 9:37 Dragon...counting back, I'd say he was born around 9:09 or 9:10 Dragon
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 18, 2019 18:32:45 GMT
^ I would like to add Zevran, who was born in 9:04 or 9:05 Dragon I also think it might be possible to guess Leliana's age based on some of the information given we know her mother served an Orlesian noble (Cecile) during the occupation of Ferelden, who left after Maric + Loghain defeated the Orlesians her mother died when Leliana was four years old, the Orlesian occupation ended in 9:02 Dragon, during which Leliana was already born so I think Leliana is likely born at either the start of the Dragon age (9:00 Dragon) or slightly before that (8:98-8:99 Blessed) by I'm guessing Leliana is either the same age as Nathaniel Howe (born in 9:00-9:01 Dragon) or slightly older
after all she says in dialogue with Wynne that she's older then she seems, whether she means by actual age or by what she went through is a guess I think Where was Zevran's age stated? Also Leliana was born in Orlais, so it would be after the occupation ended. My guess has always been about the same age as Cassandra, so in DAO she'd be in her mid twenties. (THe toolset says she is 26, but that can't realy be relied on since it also says Alistair is 30 instead of 20. )
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Nov 18, 2019 18:37:14 GMT
^ I would like to add Zevran, who was born in 9:04 or 9:05 Dragon I also think it might be possible to guess Leliana's age based on some of the information given we know her mother served an Orlesian noble (Cecile) during the occupation of Ferelden, who left after Maric + Loghain defeated the Orlesians her mother died when Leliana was four years old, the Orlesian occupation ended in 9:02 Dragon, during which Leliana was already born so I think Leliana is likely born at either the start of the Dragon age (9:00 Dragon) or slightly before that (8:98-8:99 Blessed) by I'm guessing Leliana is either the same age as Nathaniel Howe (born in 9:00-9:01 Dragon) or slightly older
after all she says in dialogue with Wynne that she's older then she seems, whether she means by actual age or by what she went through is a guess I think Where was Zevran's age stated? Also Leliana was born in Orlais, so it would be after the occupation ended. My guess has always been about the same age as Cassandra, so in DAO she'd be in her mid twenties. (THe toolset says she is 26, but that can't realy be relied on since it also says Alistair is 30 instead of 20. ) lemme check...it says it on the wikia:
the toolset is indeed a lousy source, for example...it states Bryce and Eleanor Cousland to be 40 and Fergus to be 30 (which would mean they had him when they were 10 )
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Post by Nightscrawl on Nov 18, 2019 18:40:47 GMT
To my understanding, the information in the toolset is a reference for voice casting, not the characters' actual ages. For example, with Fergus, they want him to sound mature, not like a green kid. With Bryce and Eleanor, they want them to sound older, but not old -- Irving sounds "old."
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 18, 2019 18:42:19 GMT
Where was Zevran's age stated? Also Leliana was born in Orlais, so it would be after the occupation ended. My guess has always been about the same age as Cassandra, so in DAO she'd be in her mid twenties. (THe toolset says she is 26, but that can't realy be relied on since it also says Alistair is 30 instead of 20. ) lemme check...it says it on the wikia:
the toolset is indeed a lousy source, for example...it states Bryce and Eleanor Cousland to be 40 and Fergus to be 30 (which would mean they had him when they were 10 ) Ah, I missed that. Thank you.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Nov 18, 2019 18:42:24 GMT
To my understanding, the information in the toolset is a reference for voice casting, not the characters' actual ages. For example, with Fergus, they want him to sound mature, not like a green kid. With Bryce and Eleanor, they want them to sound older, but not old -- Irving sounds "old." true enough
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Post by Sifr on Nov 18, 2019 20:04:24 GMT
Also Leliana was born in Orlais, so it would be after the occupation ended. My guess has always been about the same age as Cassandra, so in DAO she'd be in her mid twenties. (THe toolset says she is 26, but that can't realy be relied on since it also says Alistair is 30 instead of 20. ) If Leliana was born just after the occupation ended, she could be near or around 30.
She did say to Wynne in DAO that she might look younger than she actually is.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Nov 18, 2019 20:24:16 GMT
Ah, I missed that. Thank you. you're welcome
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Post by Sifr on Nov 18, 2019 22:27:39 GMT
As a Spirit of Compassion, it's not clear how long Cole has existed, but he's been in his present form for at least a few decades according to Asunder. Details are frustratingly vague, but it's at least long enough ago for him have become known as the fabled Ghost of the White Spire, but not so long ago that the Templar responsible for the real Cole's death hadn't died of old age when Cole encountered him again.
Solas' true age is similarly unknown, due to millennia in Uthenera and Elves being immortal prior to the creation of the Veil, but according to Patrick Weekes, he at least physically appears to be in his forties.
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Post by Buckeldemon on Nov 19, 2019 13:40:43 GMT
If someone happens to find the tweets about Sera and Josephine again, I would be glad if links could be provided so we could add the ages to the DAwiki and link the posts as sources.
Isabela's approximate age can be inferred. She was married off just before she turned 19 and Zevran killed the husband around a year later, Isabela taking the ship. By DA2 Act 1, she mentions that she knew some of her crew for almost ten years. So I assume her d.o.b. to be around 9.01 to 9.03.
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Post by Iddy on Nov 19, 2019 13:45:32 GMT
As a Spirit of Compassion, it's not clear how long Cole has existed, but he's been in his present form for at least a few decades according to Asunder. Details are frustratingly vague, but it's at least long enough ago for him have become known as the fabled Ghost of the White Spire, but not so long ago that the Templar responsible for the real Cole's death hadn't died of old age when Cole encountered him again. Solas' true age is similarly unknown, due to millennia in Uthenera and Elves being immortal prior to the creation of the Veil, but according to Patrick Weekes, he at least physically appears to be in his forties. Solas' age is a very relative thing, since he's spent most of his existence in Uthenera. Unconscious.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 19, 2019 14:22:49 GMT
If someone happens to find the tweets about Sera and Josephine again, I would be glad if links could be provided so we could add the ages to the DAwiki and link the posts as sources. Josephine’s is already on the DA wiki in her Trivia section.
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Post by xerrai on Nov 19, 2019 23:52:20 GMT
Most of my estimates of Vivienne's age puts her around her mid 40s by the time of Inquisition.
The first solid age reference we get for Vivienne's age at any time was when she transferred to Montsimmard at the age of 19 according to WoT Vol. 2. If we are generous and say she attended the Wintersend Ball (9:16 Dragon) in that same year that means she was Court Enchanter (appointed at 9:20 Dragon) at age 23. So by the formation of the Inquisition by 9:41 she's around 44.
But this is a conservative estimate. She could easily be pushing her 50s for all I know.
I'm also willing to wager that she became First Enchanter in her mid to late 20s since that is the time she gained the most power and influence, but I have no way to telling for sure. Only that she was elected at an age "young enough to cause scandal" and that most other First Enchanters I know of are easily in thier older years (Except Orsino, but he's an exception).
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Post by Catilina on Nov 20, 2019 0:55:25 GMT
Anders quasi like Nathaniel and Varric, can be 1-2 years difference plus or minus. He's ~30-32 when he arrives Kirkwall. His magic manifested at his 12, and spent almost 20 years in the Circle. Justice is a spirit.
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Post by Sifr on Nov 23, 2019 4:41:10 GMT
I looked in WOT to see there was any more information about Kristoff, but there doesn't seem to be any real mention of him beyond being briefly referenced in Anders' entry as being the previous vessel for Justice.
(Not sure if he'd count as a true companion though, since the Warden only ever knew "him" as Justice inhabiting his corpse.)
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Post by sageoflife on Nov 28, 2019 5:57:36 GMT
Nightmare claims that Vivienne is afraid of being too old to rebuild her powerbase if the Circle is replaced with a new system, so she could easily be in her fifties.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Nov 28, 2019 7:03:52 GMT
I looked in WOT to see there was any more information about Kristoff, but there doesn't seem to be any real mention of him beyond being briefly referenced in Anders' entry as being the previous vessel for Justice. (Not sure if he'd count as a true companion though, since the Warden only ever knew "him" as Justice inhabiting his corpse.) I'm under the impression that with both Kristoff and Cole the desire is to know the age of their mortal analogue. In other words, what is the age of the person we're interacting with, rather than the being. It would be however old each of them was when they died.
If we're considering the spirits of Justice and Compassion, my guess would be ageless. If spirits were the first children of the Maker, there is no telling how old they are. It may even be that "age" has no meaning for them so it's futile to even consider it.
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