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Post by Heimdall on Jan 24, 2020 20:36:22 GMT
Inspired by a discussion in the twitter discussion thread.
If it were up to you to pitch a Dragon Age movie or streaming service series, what would you go for? A retelling of the Fifth Blight? A new story in the setting?
I like the idea of something exploring another Free March City, but that’s as far as I’ve gotten.
For the sake of discussion, let’s leave aside whether such a thing is likely to be made for now.
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Post by Mithras on Jan 24, 2020 21:51:13 GMT
Well, if you ask me, the Old God Child plot was the best idea DA's writing team ever had. The set up alone; with a dark sorceress, with whom the protagonist may be in love, offering to conceive a child through a dark ritual before a battle; is mature, tragic, dark, romantic, mysterious and even Arthurian. And you open up a world of possibilities by having a child with the soul of a god which, sadly, had to go unexplored in the games due to Kieran not existing in every save file.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jan 24, 2020 23:40:24 GMT
I'd explore Ferelden gaining freedom from Orlais. Maric and Loghain and their fight. A good old fashioned fight for freedom for the uninitiated and a known bittersweet telling of an old tale for us all here. Meaning, we know the good guys win, but we also know how it all ends up...Loghain leaving his best friends son to die.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Jan 25, 2020 3:07:50 GMT
Well I certainly wouldn't want to see any adaption of the games with some set protagonist. But another story in the Dragon age setting like the novels and comics do but with a higher quality and longer/deeper plot then the Dragon Age: Redemption series would be welcome.
Something like the the fight against the Fourth blight or the Ferelden rebellion against Orlais could work well for a tv series. Something new of course would be most welcome although expanding a preexisting storyline might be easier. The Last Flight in particular has alot of time skips over its 12year period and shows the blight from just one point of view, so you could get a few seasons out of filling in the gaps while still having a blue print.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jan 25, 2020 3:56:21 GMT
A new story with original characters that goes to places we haven't seen in the games. They should be travelling around the world for some reason. Game characters could have cameos, but the story shouldn't focus on them, and the plot should be personal, focussed, and self-contained from the events of any of the games or supplementary material.
Set it post-Inquisition, with the backdrop being a world adjusting to the new independence of mages in Thedas.
And it should probably be animated.
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- a retired thief is hired by the chantry to track down his former partner in crime, who has stolen an ancient magical artifact from the Grand Cathedral in Val Royeaux, for reasons unknown.
- a Tevinter slave is forcibly possessed during a blood magic experiment, and flees to Southern Thedas to escape his fate as a human weapon in the war against the qunari. He is pursued by slave catchers, while also grappling with the powerful demon living inside him, with plans of its own.
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Post by fylimar on Jan 25, 2020 7:24:21 GMT
A new story with original characters that goes to places we haven't seen in the games. They should be travelling around the world for some reason. Game characters could have cameos, but the story shouldn't focus on them, and the plot should be personal, focussed, and self-contained from the events of any of the games or supplementary material. Set it post-Inquisition, with the backdrop being a world adjusting to the new independence of mages in Thedas. And it should probably be animated. A few ideas off the top of my head: - a mage from the new independent circle and a templar (or former templar) work together to pursue/investigate a series of attacks on high-level members of both organizations. - a retired thief is hired by the chantry to track down his former partner in crime, who has stolen an ancient magical artifact from the Grand Cathedral in Val Royeaux, for reasons unknown. - a Tevinter slave is forcibly possessed during a blood magic experiment, and flees to Southern Thedas to escape his fate as a human weapon in the war against the qunari. He is pursued by slave catchers, while also grappling with the powerful demon living inside him, with plans of its own. I like your ideas. Those are the kind of stories, I would love to see - or play. It doesn't have to be end of the world all the time. Especially the mage/Templar murder mystery could be a good setting for people unfamiliar with DA. Another thing, I had in my mind, is focusing on the Grey wardens and maybe follow a group that wanders Thedas to recruit people. That way, we can see parts of Thedas, we haven't seen yet. They could find out about something mysterious and go investigating. That mysterious thing could be a plot against a ruler or like in DAA strange behaving Darkspawn that is too active outside a Blight, some artifact causing trouble...
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Post by legbamel on Jan 25, 2020 21:56:13 GMT
How about a hedge mage that gets caught and brought to Kinloch Hold just in time for the big blood mage rebellion. They survive to escape in the chaos, like Anders presumably did. The story follows them through the Blight and being in hiding, maybe caught and brought to another Circle. The story could follow the brewing mage/templar war and then the events of Inquisition without requiring the PCs of any of the games to make an appearance or even be specifically named or described.
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Post by bladefist on Jan 25, 2020 23:52:26 GMT
I'd like to see a pre DAO story
1. Flemeth raising a young Morrigan 2. Zevran's life as a crow 3. Isabella's adventures 4. Ferelden's history liberation from Orlais
Lot's of potential in the world of Ferelden
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Post by helios969 on Jan 29, 2020 9:26:57 GMT
I'm inclined to think the 5th Blight would be the best for said project...it has everything you could want in an epic fantasy. I would somewhat incorporate your idea Bladefist with flashbacks that provides depth to the supporting characters. The main character would be a noble male warrior to set him up as a natural fit for the leadership role that is to follow. The thing that people need to remember here is that we're not the target audience...the target audience is the general viewer.
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Post by correctamundo on Feb 7, 2020 14:55:25 GMT
Andrastes life and eventual apotheosis of course.
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 7, 2020 15:41:28 GMT
I'm inclined to think the 5th Blight would be the best for said project...it has everything you could want in an epic fantasy. I would somewhat incorporate your idea Bladefist with flashbacks that provides depth to the supporting characters. The main character would be a noble male warrior to set him up as a natural fit for the leadership role that is to follow. The thing that people need to remember here is that we're not the target audience...the target audience is the general viewer. Right. Are we pitching for a show we want, or making the pitch most likely to succeed? Different things. I wonder if a female protagonist might work, though. They've had a pretty good track record in genre stuff lately.
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 7, 2020 16:23:45 GMT
I wouldn't mind seeing the 4th Blight. Honestly, the First Blight intrigues me because of how grim that whole thing was, and I would love to see a depiction of the fall of the dwarven empire. Only problem is that they'd have to make up a character to be the Warden that destroyed Dumat, and the Blight didn't really end until a long time after.
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Post by helios969 on Feb 8, 2020 8:05:10 GMT
Right. Are we pitching for a show we want, or making the pitch most likely to succeed? Different things. I wonder if a female protagonist might work, though. They've had a pretty good track record in genre stuff lately. Definitely, just a bit more risk is all. It's all about selecting the right actress and how believable the writers and director can make her on screen...but then that's true for the male option as well. Whichever way they would go I would hope they'd pick someone physical capable of doing much of their own swordplay...it ends up being much more dynamic.
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 9, 2020 15:04:46 GMT
I can think of a few performers who could handle that. Caity Lotz? Marie Avgeropoulos? Although I think we'd need to cast a bit younger.
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Post by adonniel on Feb 14, 2020 3:51:35 GMT
DA is filled with lore and many many places and times we haven't had any glimpses of yet. So, the possibilities are endless.
For a darker shade story, I would LOVE to see the story of THAT Warden and his group who was the first to figure out how to defeat the Arch Demon. The First Blight lasted 140 years and nearly brought the whole world down. A story at the end of this period leading to darkspawn defeat would have you shivering in your boots. It's the nearly hopeless world that comes close to utter devastation; it would have an intense setting.
It's also possible to witness the creation of the Wardens as well hence AD probably first needed to appear and wreck chaos for many years before the Wardens would appear. Maybe the main character isn't a Warden for most of the story and becomes one to take out AD at the end.
As for something closer to the period we know, I haven't read the books or comics, so Loghain's rants just touched the tip of an iceberg to interest me. It would be very interesting to play the game or watch the series where he's young and a good guy. The liberation of Ferelden from slavery sounds like a great story. There are certainly a lot of characters involved related to the characters in DAO. I imagine that gang had done plenty of ass kicking in their time.
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Post by Addictress on Feb 24, 2020 22:51:32 GMT
Nah, I'd do the complete trilogy. The trilogy's awesome story and characters need to be brought to light. You could spend two seasons on Origins, two seasons on Kirkwall, then two seasons on Inquisition and it'd all blend together in an epic, astounding way. I mean who could've foreseen on Season 1 that Jesse Pinkman would be pairing up with what's-her-face in the future/modern age when everything was defined by the wild west mise-en-scene?
Shows nowadays and go all the way there and back again. The sky is the limit.
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Post by annia on Feb 28, 2020 8:27:13 GMT
Nah, I'd do the complete trilogy. The trilogy's awesome story and characters need to be brought to light. You could spend two seasons on Origins, two seasons on Kirkwall, then two seasons on Inquisition and it'd all blend together in an epic, astounding way. I mean who could've foreseen on Season 1 that Jesse Pinkman would be pairing up with what's-her-face in the future/modern age when everything was defined by the wild west mise-en-scene? Shows nowadays and go all the way there and back again. The sky is the limit. This does sound cool, but I think it would work the best if the series went with the original plan that made Hawke the inquisitor. Also DA2 covered 10 years of material and DAI much less than that. I'm not sure devoting equal amount of time to each is a choice made of win. Its been ages since I last played DA2, but I'm pretty sure there were time jump points that would make natural season dividers.
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Post by Addictress on Feb 28, 2020 21:30:30 GMT
Nah, I'd do the complete trilogy. The trilogy's awesome story and characters need to be brought to light. You could spend two seasons on Origins, two seasons on Kirkwall, then two seasons on Inquisition and it'd all blend together in an epic, astounding way. I mean who could've foreseen on Season 1 that Jesse Pinkman would be pairing up with what's-her-face in the future/modern age when everything was defined by the wild west mise-en-scene? Shows nowadays and go all the way there and back again. The sky is the limit. This does sound cool, but I think it would work the best if the series went with the original plan that made Hawke the inquisitor. Also DA2 covered 10 years of material and DAI much less than that. I'm not sure devoting equal amount of time to each is a choice made of win. Its been ages since I last played DA2, but I'm pretty sure there were time jump points that would make natural season dividers. Yeah it's negotiable. DA2 spanning ten years could be 3 seasons (1 each act) or it could mean jumping back and forth through time like Witcher and Westworld.
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Post by NerevarineArkantos on Apr 23, 2020 3:01:20 GMT
I think the Second Sin is the perfect idea for a proper anime film (or miniseries). It could follow one of the slaves or a family that was sacrificed (or maybe one of the less evil Magisters Sidereal, assuming there was one). I imagine visuals akin to the Eclipse from Berserk or the Third Impact from The End of Evangelion, something cosmic and beautiful and terrifying. It would have an absolutely downer ending, of course, but maybe we could glean something from it (about what really happened, I mean).
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Post by Sartoz on Apr 23, 2020 3:57:14 GMT
Hm... An opportunity to explore the first Blight and the creation of the wardens.
Writers have quite a free reign on this story telling. I can envision violence, betrayal, drama, romance, sex, terror, dark forces... it's Game of Thrones again.
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Post by linksocarina on Apr 23, 2020 21:54:42 GMT
I'm inclined to think the 5th Blight would be the best for said project...it has everything you could want in an epic fantasy. I would somewhat incorporate your idea Bladefist with flashbacks that provides depth to the supporting characters. The main character would be a noble male warrior to set him up as a natural fit for the leadership role that is to follow. The thing that people need to remember here is that we're not the target audience...the target audience is the general viewer. Right. Are we pitching for a show we want, or making the pitch most likely to succeed? Different things. I wonder if a female protagonist might work, though. They've had a pretty good track record in genre stuff lately. Question. The Witcher TV series is based off the books or the games? Now on to my answer, for a Dragon Age show, I would argue, should avoid the games plot entirely unless tangentially mentioning it. So for example, side stories set during the Kirkwall troubles in Dragon Age 2. Or Being members of the Inquisition. Or follow the comics lead and be completely separate in continuity with sometimes a reference from main series characters. Setting it during Maric's rebellion or the 1st blight is too out of place. Works as a game, but not a TV show id argue. Cool ideas sure but not necessarily a good idea to me personally. There are thousands of stories they can tell in the Dragon Age specifically, a re-hash of the games plot I feel would be redundant.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Apr 23, 2020 21:57:15 GMT
The Witcher TV series is based off the books or the games? There are some game influences in there, but mostly it "draws" from the books - which I haven't read, so can't comment as to how well they succeed. I liked the show, though. At least, enough to give a 2nd season a chance when it releases.
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Post by Heimdall on Apr 23, 2020 23:15:29 GMT
The Witcher TV series is based off the books or the games? There are some game influences in there, but mostly it "draws" from the books - which I haven't read, so can't comment as to how well they succeed. I liked the show, though. At least, enough to give a 2nd season a chance when it releases. It’s complicated. The first two Witcher novels are actually collections of short stories spanning decades with varying levels of interconnectedness that set the stage for the rest of the saga. So the first season was basically an effort to cobble those into a cohesive narrative. Some parts, like Yennefer’s entire backstory before meeting Geralt and Ciri’s flight from Cintra, are only referenced in the stories rather than directly portrayed.
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Post by vertigomez on Apr 24, 2020 12:15:14 GMT
Paragon Aeducan sealing off Orzammar from the darkspawn horde, saving Orzammar from certain annihilation but dooming the rest of the dwarven race (✿◉_◉)🗡
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Post by legbamel on Apr 24, 2020 18:27:25 GMT
DA is filled with lore and many many places and times we haven't had any glimpses of yet. So, the possibilities are endless.
For a darker shade story, I would LOVE to see the story of THAT Warden and his group who was the first to figure out how to defeat the Arch Demon. The First Blight lasted 140 years and nearly brought the whole world down. A story at the end of this period leading to darkspawn defeat would have you shivering in your boots. It's the nearly hopeless world that comes close to utter devastation; it would have an intense setting.
It's also possible to witness the creation of the Wardens as well hence AD probably first needed to appear and wreck chaos for many years before the Wardens would appear. Maybe the main character isn't a Warden for most of the story and becomes one to take out AD at the end.
As for something closer to the period we know, I haven't read the books or comics, so Loghain's rants just touched the tip of an iceberg to interest me. It would be very interesting to play the game or watch the series where he's young and a good guy. The liberation of Ferelden from slavery sounds like a great story. There are certainly a lot of characters involved related to the characters in DAO. I imagine that gang had done plenty of ass kicking in their time.
Plus going back to earlier Blights means griffons. Who doesn't want griffons?
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