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Post by revelationeffect on May 11, 2020 16:34:32 GMT
This appears to be everyone! (It also includes Cytharat and Lemda, and I'm not convinced it should. They only appear in the Markeb storyline and you can't continue the relationships after that, unlike every other option on this list.) I see, thanks for the help...I'll change some of the numbers and then post the revisited list
Edit: I think it's correct now...but feel free to call me out on any mistakes
Edit 2: fixed another tiny mistake
The only remaining error I can see is that there's one f/f option in the Baldur's Gate expansion.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on May 11, 2020 16:59:23 GMT
Not worth another edit just for this, but that should really say "player character" rather than "player." We already had some confusion about that upthread. Are Beamdog's additions actually in-scope for this analysis? meh...in order for people not to nitpick I'll just change it to "pc" IMO any list should only contain games that were made by Bioware devs. I don't really care what Obsidian or Beamdog devs decided to do with the characters in their take on a Bioware IP. Also, I had no idea that there were more than two romances in NWN o_O. Though I suppose that's a result of my not bothering with the henchmen in that game. Finally, I'd suggest a total for each column as well.
Hm, true enough...I'll be deleting the non Bioware games from my colums. Same for DAI. F/M has the most options, not M/F. huh... pretty sure hetero-sexual females have more options then hetero-sexual males... The only remaining error I can see is that there's one f/f option in the Baldur's Gate expansion. actually, that would be the enhanced edition of Baldur's Gate 2
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Post by LadyofNemesis on May 11, 2020 17:08:26 GMT
made a new version to include some renditions
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 11, 2020 17:11:51 GMT
pretty sure hetero-sexual females have more options then hetero-sexual males... That's what I said... F/M has more. Your DAI column lists M/F as having 3 (+1), but that's not accurate.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 11, 2020 17:13:46 GMT
pretty sure hetero-sexual females have more options then hetero-sexual males... That's what I said... F/M has more. Their list has M/F as Male Character and Female Player Character. You're thinking it the other way around putting the player character first. So they're correct. It's just written different.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 11, 2020 17:16:40 GMT
LadyofNemesis With ME2, there's only one character available to both (Kelly). Two I guess if you count Liara's DLC. But you have four.
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Post by Highwayman667 on May 11, 2020 17:18:59 GMT
Oh man the topic name for this one is already controversial fire. Love it.
Although I'm not heavily bothered by it, I did find the heterosexual romantic interests in DAI to be a bit underwhelming: Cassandra was a nun and Josephine is........ nice. I'm not even talking about their appearences but their personalities were just... meh.
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 11, 2020 17:19:57 GMT
Their list has M/F as Male Character and Female Player Character. You're thinking it the other way around putting the player character first. So they're correct. It's just written different. Oh... oops. Guess I should read more lol. Yeah, it's the opposite to how I usually think of that designation: player/NPC. That explains my confusion at F/M having more overall.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on May 11, 2020 17:21:24 GMT
That's what I said... F/M has more. Their list has M/F as Male Character and Female Player Character. You're thinking it the other way around putting the player character first. So they're correct. It's just written different. yes, that...thanks LadyofNemesis With ME2, there's only one character available to both (Kelly). Two I guess if you count Liara's DLC. But you have four. ah, right... so...I also included Samara and Morinth in that category, seeing as the wiki posts them in the romance-able section as well seeing as Samara can be carried over into ME3 (Citadel dlc only), and Morinth can't but Diana Allers is available I thought I'd include them as well and yes, I did include the carried over romances for ME1
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 11, 2020 17:27:21 GMT
This list idea is fun. I want to try:
Non-sexual romances (or at least optional/ambiguous) KOTOR: 3 (Bastila, Carth, Juhani) SWTOR: 0 JE: 0 ME1: o ME2: 1 (Kelly) ME3: 1 (Kelly) MEA: 3 (Avela, Cora, Suvi) DAO: 2 (Alistair, Leliana) DA2: 1 (Sebastian) DAI: 4 (Dorian, Josephine, Solas, Thom)
Ace Spectrum LIs (or at least devs said valid interpretation): KOTOR: 0 SWTOR: 0 JE: 0 ME1: 0 ME2: 0 ME3: 0 MEA: 0 DAO: 0 DA2: 1 (Merrill) DAI: 1 (Josephine)
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 11, 2020 17:28:08 GMT
Their list has M/F as Male Character and Female Player Character. You're thinking it the other way around putting the player character first. So they're correct. It's just written different. yes, that...thanks LadyofNemesis With ME2, there's only one character available to both (Kelly). Two I guess if you count Liara's DLC. But you have four. ah, right... so...I also included Samara and Morinth in that category, seeing as the wiki posts them in the romance-able section as well seeing as Samara can be carried over into ME3 (Citadel dlc only), and Morinth can't but Diana Allers is available I thought I'd include them as well and yes, I did include the carried over romances for ME1
Ah, okay. I forgot about those two being listed as such to be honest.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on May 11, 2020 17:32:06 GMT
This list idea is fun. I want to try: Non-sexual romances (or at least optional/ambiguous) KOTOR: 3 (Bastila, Carth, Juhani) SWTOR: 0 JE: 0 ME1: o ME2: 1 (Kelly) ME3: 1 (Kelly) MEA: 3 (Avela, Cora, Suvi) DAO: 2 (Alistair, Leliana) DA2: 1 (Sebastian) DAI: 4 (Dorian, Josephine, Solas, Thom)
Ace Spectrum LIs (or at least devs said valid interpretation): KOTOR: 0 SWTOR: 0 JE: 0 ME1: 0 ME2: 0 ME3: 0 MEA: 0 DAO: 0 DA2: 1 (Merrill) DAI: 1 (Josephine) you know, as someone who personally questions her own personality (pretty sure I'm hetero-sexual but might be demi-sexual as well...(honestly I've no idea ) ...it's a nice addition Ah, okay. I forgot about those two being listed as such to be honest. same, but since I wanted to try and make my list as complete as possible I thought I'd include them as well
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 11, 2020 17:42:07 GMT
DAO: 2 (Alistair, Leliana) You can not have sex with them? I didn't know this was an option.
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Post by alanc9 on May 11, 2020 18:08:35 GMT
Also, I had no idea that there were more than two romances in NWN o_O. Though I suppose that's a result of my not bothering with the henchmen in that game. Did you play HoTU?
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 11, 2020 18:11:20 GMT
Yeah, I played all of NWN. As I said, I never bothered with the henchmen that much. Though to be fair, with the way I played DAO the first time I didn't know that game had romances at all. My dialogue choices just didn't lead to any of those paths.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 11, 2020 18:29:42 GMT
DAO: 2 (Alistair, Leliana) You can not have sex with them? I didn't know this was an option. Yeah. When romancing Leliana, when she propositions you you can say you don't think that's appropriate. She'll ask you if something's wrong, and you can say you want to wait until the Darkspawn are dealt with or you want the relationship to be based on more than lust. With the latter she'll say she understands and how we should spend more time together and she's willing to wait. You can have sex later, but for the rest of the playthrough it's still treated as you completed her romance and you're in a relationship. I heard it's similar with Alistair too.
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Post by revelationeffect on May 11, 2020 18:50:45 GMT
Not worth another edit just for this, but that should really say "player character" rather than "player." We already had some confusion about that upthread. Are Beamdog's additions actually in-scope for this analysis? meh...in order for people not to nitpick I'll just change it to "pc" IMO any list should only contain games that were made by Bioware devs. I don't really care what Obsidian or Beamdog devs decided to do with the characters in their take on a Bioware IP. Also, I had no idea that there were more than two romances in NWN o_O. Though I suppose that's a result of my not bothering with the henchmen in that game. Finally, I'd suggest a total for each column as well.
Hm, true enough...I'll be deleting the non Bioware games from my colums. Same for DAI. F/M has the most options, not M/F. huh... pretty sure hetero-sexual females have more options then hetero-sexual males... The only remaining error I can see is that there's one f/f option in the Baldur's Gate expansion. actually, that would be the enhanced edition of Baldur's Gate 2 Nah, Schael Corwin in Siege of Dragonspear is bi, although it's pretty irrelevant now that you're removing the Beamdog additions.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on May 11, 2020 20:04:58 GMT
Nah, Schael Corwin in Siege of Dragonspear is bi, although it's pretty irrelevant now that you're removing the Beamdog additions. yeah...I didn't count the characters that'd carry over from Siege of Dragonspear into Baldur's Gate 2 EE though according to the wiki there's no which is why I didn't include them (and as you said the Enhanced Edition wasn't made by Bioware)
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Post by bear on May 11, 2020 20:18:52 GMT
IIRC, from way back playing BG1 with those five discs in the foldable Baal holder, there weren't any romances at all. So that list should really also have a BG1 Original line that makes it clear BG1 is the "redone" one, like BG2 has the enhanced version listed..
Or not.. :-p
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Post by LadyofNemesis on May 11, 2020 20:40:56 GMT
or I could just remake the entire list with just the games I've played...which wouldn't include half of them, and several which are technically not made by Bioware (such as NWN2 and SW KotR 2) then again, I never finished Jade Empire...or either of the KotR games...got bored playing Old Republic... (plus I had to pay to play...that's a big no for me) Maker my list would've been so short if I'd just done the ones I played and finished but if anyone else would like to take a crack at it and make a complete list, be my guest (<this emoticon needs a vein pop)
Edit: made a final version, hopefully everyone's now content ...oh who am I kidding
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Post by Iakus on May 11, 2020 20:41:14 GMT
IIRC, from way back playing BG1 with those five discs in the foldable Baal holder, there weren't any romances at all. So that list should really also have a BG1 Original line that makes it clear BG1 is the "redone" one, like BG2 has the enhanced version listed.. Or not.. :-p I do enjoy playing BG1 with the NPC mod, which has tons of extra dialogue for the companions and six romances.
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Post by bear on May 11, 2020 21:05:34 GMT
IIRC, from way back playing BG1 with those five discs in the foldable Baal holder, there weren't any romances at all. So that list should really also have a BG1 Original line that makes it clear BG1 is the "redone" one, like BG2 has the enhanced version listed.. Or not.. :-p I do enjoy playing BG1 with the NPC mod, which has tons of extra dialogue for the companions and six romances. I wanted the game only for the nostalgia factor. Found it didn't look quite as it did back in the day, and was actually annoyed at all the new stuff... (I am going to be a pain in the butt in someone's future retirement home. "MODS?! I'll tell you, son, back in my day we only played vanilla and we learned to love it! Them younger gamers got used to waaay too many choices! Spoiled Rotten!"). ..but I still played the remade BG1, imported into BG2 and got as far as Balthasar.
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Post by githcheater on May 11, 2020 23:34:52 GMT
or I could just remake the entire list with just the games I've played...which wouldn't include half of them, and several which are technically not made by Bioware (such as NWN2 and SW KotR 2) then again, I never finished Jade Empire...or either of the KotR games...got bored playing Old Republic... (plus I had to pay to play...that's a big no for me) Maker my list would've been so short if I'd just done the ones I played and finished but if anyone else would like to take a crack at it and make a complete list, be my guest (<this emoticon needs a vein pop)
Edit: made a final version, hopefully everyone's now content ...oh who am I kidding Thanks for adding back the related, but non-Bioware games.
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Post by alanc9 on May 12, 2020 0:46:58 GMT
It seems cruel to point out that BG1 Enhanced needs to be bolded.
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Edit: made a final version, hopefully everyone's now content...oh who am I kidding Posted this back on the official BSN ages ago...
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