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Post by PCthug on Jan 10, 2017 4:38:49 GMT
Today I found out that Sera's repeatable kiss cutscene has her actually bend over to kiss a dwarf .
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 10, 2017 4:45:02 GMT
Today I found out that Sera's repeatable kiss cutscene has her actually bend over to kiss a dwarf . slams hands on table THIS IS THE KIND OF CUTE DWARF SMOOCHING ACTION THAT I NEED IN MY LIFE
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Post by PCthug on Jan 10, 2017 5:20:01 GMT
Today I found out that Sera's repeatable kiss cutscene has her actually bend over to kiss a dwarf . slams hands on table THIS IS THE KIND OF CUTE DWARF SMOOCHING ACTION THAT I NEED IN MY LIFE My computer has a bad habit of stuttering the game when I take screen shots so it didn't come out great but...
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 10, 2017 5:35:14 GMT
I'm not saying you have excellent taste, but... slams hands on table THIS IS THE KIND OF CUTE DWARF SMOOCHING ACTION THAT I NEED IN MY LIFE My computer has a bad habit of stuttering the game when I take screen shots so it didn't come out great but... They are in love and I'm ded how dare ??
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Post by cloud9 on Jan 11, 2017 9:02:40 GMT
Sera never once claims she's ever met the Dalish. Her experiences with other City elves were unclear as well. Who do you think "the shits who used them to make me feel broken" were if not Dalish? Who else believes in the creators and would tell Sera she was wrong for not believing? You're right that Sera is rarely explicit about her past, but there are plenty of hints to be found, if you keep an ear open. Her comments about being "the wrong type of elf" during the quest to help the injured Avvar with his dad's funeral rites are quite revealing. Also if you break up with her as an elf in the post-Mythal scene, it's clear that elves have attempted to explain why she's wrong to her before: "And say the other bit. 'You'd get it if you were smarter. If you understood what it meant to be Elven.'" Sera's clearly the product of a lot of things. Her dislike of the Dalish is unreasonably extreme based on whatever limited encounters she may have had, but it has to be seen as part of the totality of her experiences. She's felt unappreciated for who she is everywhere she's been. She's too human in her attitudes and beliefs to be accepted even by city elves but her pointy ears mean she'll never be seen as an equal by most humans. In her mind everyone wants to change her, so she's raised a wall of contrarian behaviour as a pre-emptive protective shield against rejection. She'd rather everyone was "just people" so that all races just got along and she'd be accepted for who she is. Paradoxically, it's by not attempting to change her that we finally see her calm down and begin to put the past behind her. That's the point of Sera for me. She's meant to be abrasive and not for everyone, but there's an interesting, loving and fiercely loyal character there if you don't try to change her. Sera is a willfully a stupid person because she knows and sees the truth but still believe the lies and on top of that she's fixing to break up with you if you stay true to your beliefs. I know a whole lot of people like her unfortunately.......
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Post by yourfunnyuncle on Jan 11, 2017 14:08:54 GMT
slams hands on table THIS IS THE KIND OF CUTE DWARF SMOOCHING ACTION THAT I NEED IN MY LIFE My computer has a bad habit of stuttering the game when I take screen shots so it didn't come out great but... Hee hee! I realised that I didn't have a sceenie of that from my Seramancing dwarf so I made one...
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 11, 2017 14:31:02 GMT
The gods have spoken, they demand moar rooftop smooching!
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Post by Rel Fexive on Jan 11, 2017 23:35:30 GMT
Oh, are we doing that again?
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Post by PCthug on Jan 12, 2017 4:10:28 GMT
Urgh, I am having to force myself to pace the Sera romance. I haven't even done HLtA or WEaWH but I've already triggered the "A Woman Who Wants for Nothing." It's so hard to put it off until I finish another main quest.
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Post by yourfunnyuncle on Jan 12, 2017 11:12:05 GMT
Urgh, I am having to force myself to pace the Sera romance. I haven't even done HLtA or WEaWH but I've already triggered the "A Woman Who Wants for Nothing." It's so hard to put it off until I finish another main quest. For me it makes more sense to do A Woman Who Wants for Nothing before WeaWH, but I like to do HLtA before either. Here's ElfxSera rooftop kiss. Now we just need a human...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2017 12:54:32 GMT
Human and Sera rooftop kisses. :3 But Sera cheated and brought a box. D: So it's misaligned. So finery kisses: :3
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Post by yourfunnyuncle on Jan 12, 2017 14:57:20 GMT
Ah yes. The wedding kiss is always fun, although I have my Inquisitor change out of that horrid uniform at the earliest opportunity... And now I feel the need to finish my Dwarf playthrough so I can see how this scene plays out...
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Post by thats1evildude on Jan 14, 2017 9:35:48 GMT
I've encountered another gamer who has difficulty starting Sera's romance, as she keeps saying she'd like to travel around a bit and get to know the Inquisitor better. This person seems to think that Sera should be giving Approval for certain dialogue options but isn't. They just did Here Lies the Abyss. Any advice?
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Post by yourfunnyuncle on Jan 14, 2017 13:46:20 GMT
I've encountered another gamer who has difficulty starting Sera's romance, as she keeps saying she'd like to travel around a bit and get to know the Inquisitor better. This person seems to think that Sera should be giving Approval for certain dialogue options but isn't. They just did Here Lies the Abyss. Any advice? Standard advice is to exhaust every dialogue option except kicking her out of the Inquisition. That solves the problem for the majority of people.
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 14, 2017 21:12:53 GMT
I've encountered another gamer who has difficulty starting Sera's romance, as she keeps saying she'd like to travel around a bit and get to know the Inquisitor better. This person seems to think that Sera should be giving Approval for certain dialogue options but isn't. They just did Here Lies the Abyss. Any advice? Standard advice is to exhaust every dialogue option except kicking her out of the Inquisition. That solves the problem for the majority of people. Yep. Including that one that seems rude AF - "you're not like other elves" - which is afaik is mandatory to continue her romance. Flirting with Harding every time you see her will also give you approval boosts from Sera.
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Post by xilizhra on Jan 22, 2017 4:42:44 GMT
I'm starting to increasingly think that Lukas was being rather a hack when he wrote Sera, and everything good about her was more or less an accident. The worst part, in my opinion, is that a huge chunk of her backstory is bloody missing, only able to be vaguely inferred.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 22, 2017 13:34:36 GMT
The strange thing is they don't make that omission good in WoT2 either. There is a double page of Notes about her and the Red Jennies obtained by the Inquisition, which details the fact that the noblewoman who adopted her also made her heir to her estate but beyond that there is nothing. The notes state she was likely an infant in the alienage in Denerim but they can find no record of it. There is reference to a guard being reluctant to pursue an elven truant (from the alienage) into a dark alley and Sera talking about a "stupid tree" and "no one cares" and that is about it. Then we have Sera in the house of Lady Taraline, which she tells us about herself and then nothing beyond the Red Jennies. She was already with them apparently during the 5th Blight and as she declined to claim her inheritance, the estate was used in efforts against the Blight.
I don't think her antagonism towards the Dalish is through direct contact but more likely through heresay. That would make sense considering how the Chantry denigrate the reputation of the Dalish whenever they can. Alternatively, she met a clan like clan Virnehn in Masked Empire, because that is apparently meant to be a typical Dalish clan now and not the attitude that was previously displayed by the Dalish in DAO towards city elves. Since to find a Dalish clan you have to actively go out into the wilds and seek them, it is hardly surprising that a clan encountered in such a way would assume that the person looking for them was actually interested in learning about their culture and possibly becoming part of it.
What I dislike about Sera is that she resents anyone trying to change her but insists that her elven lover should change for her. Also just because you don't want to adopt a particular culture yourself, you can still respect other people's way of life. Being so insensitive in the way she goes on about the discovery in the Temple of Mythal and calling the Dalish "tits in the woods" for living the way they do is just objectionable. As with Solas and his attitude towards the Dalish, it seems strange to me that Sera, who is someone who so values their own independence, should have no regard whatsoever for the fact that the Dalish live the way they do because they don't want to conform to what other people say they should be.
Which is why I feel she has never actually sat down with a Dalish and discussed why they believe what they do. Mind you that is a fault with practically every companion in the game. You never really get the chance to sit down and tell them precisely why you have the culture that you do. And really it is only an issue for a Dalish Inquisitor. A human Inquisitor doesn't have to explain themselves because they are part of the society norm. A Carta dwarf is not part of an actual cultural identity, nor a Vashoth mercenary, in the same way that a Dalish is. Hence, I assume, Sera makes no demand of a human, dwarf or qunari lover as she does of Lavellan.
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 22, 2017 17:33:30 GMT
I come bearing Sera and Dagna as babies. Because reasons. source
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Post by cloud9 on Jan 23, 2017 21:15:32 GMT
That's what's wrong with people nowadays. You act like you don't see nothing you know Sera ain't right in the head and got some self issues as an elf. I merely called it. Uhmm, actually I did see it: You claim this is based on society shaming people of color for being too dark, when you shame them for not being dark enough . Do you ever think that it's possible some of these people use non-traditionally African hairstyles-clothing-whatever is not any alleged self loathing, but simply that they think it looks cool? Or maybe, just maybe, some of them wouldn't be so anti-African heritage if others like you didn't insult their individual personalities by claiming they have no right to deviate from said heritage in the slightest? Any individual's own personal experiences and preferences seem to have no place in this argument. Well, no more assumptions; do you believe people have a racial obligation to the culture of their forefathers, personal desires and free will be damned? Your gaslighting is astounding.
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 24, 2017 1:01:36 GMT
Smooches.
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Post by PCthug on Jan 24, 2017 4:04:43 GMT
Sera's diary is so awesome, I wish every companion had one.
"Use silk for her! Underpants (scratched out). Tit thing (scratched out). Scarf (scratched out)."
"Book. Learn dwarf stuff for her. It's all small!"
"Music sheets. The song from that night in Halam. I danced. She danced. We danced."
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Post by Rel Fexive on Jan 24, 2017 23:33:45 GMT
I don't think there's been a deeper insight into how a companion character feels in any game than Sera's diary provides.
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 25, 2017 14:31:59 GMT
Right! I think the journal works especially well for Sera because of the way she expresses herself. She sometimes has trouble getting her thoughts together and expressing them (to herself and other people). So seeing her cross out the parts she doesn't like, or nixed ideas, and smooshing words together to create new words that more accurately describe what she's feeling... it just provides a lot of insight into her character.
edit: And the sketches. Can't forget the sketches.
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Post by Rel Fexive on Jan 25, 2017 15:57:02 GMT
Like you say, the journal is so absolutely and definitively Sera, that's the great thing about it.
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