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Post by PCthug on Feb 20, 2017 1:44:10 GMT
People are already judging Peebee? *sigh* This is James Vega being considered a Jersey shore character all over again. Yeah, the pre-judging of all the characters is why I've decided to duck out of that side of the forum until after I finish ME:A. It really sucks the fun out of the discussions, for me at least. I'll also be able to avoid the screams of anguish when some people find out certain characters aren't available to romance. Edit: To bring this back to Sera, here's one of my favorite screenshots I have of her
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 22, 2017 12:03:49 GMT
I- I had a dream last night that I got a Sera tattoo. And I was crying into my beer about how wonderful she was. I'm not sure what that says about me. Wtf subconscious.
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Post by Iddy on Feb 22, 2017 16:47:19 GMT
SHE EXISTS!!
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 27, 2017 0:25:13 GMT
Sera in a sweater gives me life.
Sera in nothing but a sweater gives me...... other things.
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Post by Serza on Feb 27, 2017 7:01:40 GMT
Mind, meet gutter!
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Post by talyn82 on Feb 27, 2017 17:32:20 GMT
I have to give Sera another chance. I did not like her in my first and only playthrough in 2014. Now 3 years later, I've come back to the game, so I'll give her another chance.
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 27, 2017 19:14:50 GMT
Meet? The gutter is the dwelling-place of my mind. I have to give Sera another chance. I did not like her in my first and only playthrough in 2014. Now 3 years later, I've come back to the game, so I'll give her another chance. She's pretty great.
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 1, 2017 13:28:37 GMT
Thread needs moar Sera.
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Mar 2, 2017 2:54:52 GMT
So...
Anyone still holding a torch for the Sera=Andruil theory? I myself don't quite buy into it, but it's the only explanation I can think of for Sera's vague remembering episodes and Solas' cryptic comments about her being special in some way.
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 2, 2017 3:21:22 GMT
So... Anyone still holding a torch for the Sera=Andruil theory? I myself don't quite buy into it, but it's the only explanation I can think of for Sera's vague remembering episodes and Solas' cryptic comments about her being special in some way. Eh, I think it's neat and fairly well-constructed, but I think I'm happiest with Sera just being Sera. Though I suppose it'd be an interesting dichotomy with Solas, with him embracing his role as Fen'Harel and Sera rejecting any ties to Andruil and embracing her "new" identity. After Patrick Weekes' pre-release insistence that Solas was just an ordinary elven apostate, I wouldn't put it past them. But right now I think all of her half-remembered whatsits have more to do with being an elf than being an elven god-king.
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 2, 2017 17:26:20 GMT
Some Sera x Dagna smooches. :dirty:
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 5, 2017 15:35:32 GMT
I'm romancing Sera in two simultaneous playthroughs rn. It's funny to watch her eyes angle up from dwarf to qunari.
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Post by Crim on Mar 5, 2017 16:07:08 GMT
I- I had a dream last night that I got a Sera tattoo. And I was crying into my beer about how wonderful she was. I'm not sure what that says about me. Wtf subconscious. Rofl, cute. Me and an ex-girlfriend shared matching piercings back in my college days. Just as well it was only piercings, matching tattoos would have been a baaaaaad idea, an idea I suggested.
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Post by Sifr on Mar 6, 2017 23:43:52 GMT
So... Anyone still holding a torch for the Sera=Andruil theory? I myself don't quite buy into it, but it's the only explanation I can think of for Sera's vague remembering episodes and Solas' cryptic comments about her being special in some way. I still think that her occasional flashes of insight, preternatural skill with a bow and Solas' cryptic comments on her "specialness", all point to her having some degree of latent magical aptitude, similar to that of a hedge mage. We're told in Trespasser that all Elves would have magic if not for the Veil blocking it for most people, so Sera may only be able to tap into this connection on a superficial level. However her distrust of magic and desire to be normal means she always rationalises these moments away as nothing more than deja vu and "dumb luck".
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Post by Silvery on Mar 10, 2017 17:11:49 GMT
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Post by yourfunnyuncle on Mar 12, 2017 16:22:29 GMT
The forum has for some reason removed this from my list of participated threads, so have a picture of Sera getting ready to put an arrow in someone's face.
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 13, 2017 2:30:46 GMT
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Mar 14, 2017 19:12:58 GMT
And I'm just gonnna put this... and this... right here just because I can and its awesome.
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Post by bear43 on Mar 14, 2017 21:29:42 GMT
My last playthrough I finally romanced Sera as a human mage. Just started a new playthrough as a female dwarf. Yep, I already know who I am romancing. I really enjoyed Sera's romance last time.
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Mar 16, 2017 20:57:30 GMT
Alright just had a crazy theory. Sera's elf issues is a commentary on the ideological problems with old school Marxism. Told you it was crazy. Anyways, Sera had been described by fans and vaguely by Bioware as Marxist Robin Hood during the early days before Inquisition came out. Rolling with that idea think about how Sera's been rejected by the human nobility which she was adopted into, been rejected by the Dalish that she tried to learn about at some point, and was possibly rejected by City Elf parents who left her alone at an orphanage. With those social rejections she decided to ignore all those facets of her identity and define herself as vaguely as possible* as just a normal poor person divorced from any notion of culture** or race. Here's where the Marxism angle becomes into play. Old school Marxists had a problem dealing with race or sex and tried to reduce everything to class struggle in an attempt to bring various oppressed people together under one ideology, ignoring their unique oppressions as secondary to classism and economic injustice. While Sera's race issues are a bit more personal than that the way in which she ignores unique race issues for more broad yet generic political issues like class to me reflects the same old problems with Marxist and even socialist or liberal feminist thought. Hell, she kind of reminds me of Bernie Sanders. Great when it came to decrying the corporate class but not to great about issues about race. Well, that was my little insane rant. Hope people enjoyed it. * Blackwall actually makes a great point about how Sera doesn't know who she is or what she even wants ** Notice how she rarely brings up or even really cares about her Ferelden heritage
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Post by PCthug on Mar 16, 2017 21:52:31 GMT
Alright just had a crazy theory. Sera's elf issues is a commentary on the ideological problems with old school Marxism. Told you it was crazy. Anyways, Sera had been described by fans and vaguely by Bioware as Marxist Robin Hood during the early days before Inquisition came out. Rolling with that idea think about how Sera's been rejected by the human nobility which she was adopted into, been rejected by the Dalish that she tried to learn about at some point, and was possibly rejected by City Elf parents who left her alone at an orphanage. With those social rejections she decided to ignore all those facets of her identity and define herself as vaguely as possible* as just a normal poor person divorced from any notion of culture** or race. Here's where the Marxism angle becomes into play. Old school Marxists had a problem dealing with race or sex and tried to reduce everything to class struggle in an attempt to bring various oppressed people together under one ideology, ignoring their unique oppressions as secondary to classism and economic injustice. While Sera's race issues are a bit more personal than that the way in which she ignores unique race issues for more broad yet generic political issues like class to me reflects the same old problems with Marxist and even socialist or liberal feminist thought. Hell, she kind of reminds me of Bernie Sanders. Great when it came to decrying the corporate class but not to great about issues about race. Well, that was my little insane rant. Hope people enjoyed it. * Blackwall actually makes a great point about how Sera doesn't know who she is or what she even wants ** Notice how she rarely brings up or even really cares about her Ferelden heritage It is an interesting theory and while I would be surprised if that was their intention when creating her, I do see the connection you describe. I think Sera, like a lot of people, eschews complexity. She likes things reduced to simple, understandable concepts. X happened therefore resulting in y, sort of thing. When things can’t be explained this way, when it clear that there are multiple factors and things beyond her understanding of how things are supposed to work she has a tendency to panic (like in the fade) or reveal her hardheadedness (the post Temple of Mythal conversation). This sounds like I’m trashing her, but it’s really why she’s one of my favorite companions in all of Dragon Age. When I was her age, did I like being reminded of how much of life was completely out of my control? Hell no. I had a tendency to freak out too and wanted everything to be a simple matter of “do x, get y.” And you can see in Trespasser she's starting to grow up and grow out of this line of thinking. This is also reminding me of the multiple theories about why she dislikes the Dalish or being labeled in any “elfy” terms. There’s a tendency to try and find the “single bullet theory” for why she is the way she is and I don’t think there is one. It’s probably a mixture of her experiences, the culture she grew up in, and just the way she uniquely processed these factors, as we all do. I like that they didn’t feel the need to lay out Sera’s backstory* and make all her quirks and biases suddenly understandable, as is so often done in fiction. She’s just who she is, take it or leave it. You can’t change or fix her, you can only find something in there that you connect with or not. *There's the cookie conversation on the roof, but even that only gives a small picture of her life prior to being a Red Jenny.
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 18, 2017 13:33:14 GMT
I think it is fair enough if we don't learn the reasons in game, since they would have to be supplied by Sera herself and she clearly is not interested in enlightening you. However, I was disappointed that the deficit wasn't made good in World of Thedas 2. With other characters we got to see more of their backstory that they did not reveal in game but with Sera it simply sticks with her relationship to Lady Taraline who took her in as a child. The nearest we get to something more is the report suggesting that joining the Red Jennies may have been her way of avoiding being thrust back into the alienage after leaving the protection the noblewoman, as guards tended to be reluctant to pursue people into the backstreets of Denerim's underworld simply for being where they should not, and Sera's own comment on the report: "Whatever that means, no one cares. Didn't go, stupid tree, didn't stay". Since the Vhenadahl tree is the symbol of elven unity against adversity in the alienage, plus harking back to the glory days of Arlathan, the fact she calls it stupid is entirely in keeping with her general attitude towards elven culture, whether City or Dalish, but I just would have liked a bit more of an idea why she is so hostile. Knowing more about her history still might not make her attitude understandable but it would at least show that she did have an origin somewhere. I've remarked before that she is in fact a contemporary of the Hero of Ferelden, so if they are a City elf, they would likely have grown up in the alienage together, which might explain why the writers wished to be so vague about her origins because they realised this was an awkward connection that was best avoided. Mind you, in that case, why did she have to be from Ferelden at all?
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 18, 2017 18:13:49 GMT
LOOK AT THIS COSPLAY AHHH I'M IN LOVE :hearteyes: source
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Post by Walter Black on Mar 18, 2017 19:00:02 GMT
LOOK AT THIS COSPLAY AHHH I'M IN LOVE :hearteyes: sourceOh Lord, banter that could have been . I could see Sera initially mocking Merill's "elfiness", then be constantly frustrated when Daisy refuses to take the bait and plays innocent . Later they could find out they have more in common than they thought, laying the ground work for a truly hilarious and heartwarming oddball friendship.
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 19, 2017 16:08:43 GMT
*happy sigh*
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