What are you gonna do after WPHW, when Sera gets real mad unless the Inquisitor agrees that elfy beliefs are just demon shit?
Dunno. I don't remember having such a conversation in any other playthrough. Let her be mad, I guess? Maybe get even more offended in return and bite her head off if that's an option. Sounds like it would just widen the rift between them in any case. I'll make sure to talk to her after the quest if something like that doesn't pop up on its own. Thanks for reminding me.
What are you gonna do after WPHW, when Sera gets real mad unless the Inquisitor agrees that elfy beliefs are just demon shit?
Dunno. I don't remember having such a conversation in any other playthrough. Let her be mad, I guess? Maybe get even more offended in return and bite her head off if that's an option. Sounds like it would just widen the rift between them in any case. I'll make sure to talk to her after the quest if something like that doesn't pop up on its own. Thanks for reminding me.
Biting her head off is an option, IIRC. My advice on handling the aftermath of the Temple of Mythal would be to just let Sera deal with her existential freakout. She almost always has one after major quest where's a revelation, and Mythal is no different. Give her space and wait for her to cool off. By Trespasser she'll be over it. Mostly.
Dunno. I don't remember having such a conversation in any other playthrough. Let her be mad, I guess? Maybe get even more offended in return and bite her head off if that's an option. Sounds like it would just widen the rift between them in any case. I'll make sure to talk to her after the quest if something like that doesn't pop up on its own. Thanks for reminding me.
Biting her head off is an option, IIRC. My advice on handling the aftermath of the Temple of Mythal would be to just let Sera deal with her existential freakout. She almost always has one after major quest where's a revelation, and Mythal is no different. Give her space and wait for her to cool off. By Trespasser she'll be over it. Mostly.
Hmm. I'll take it into consideration. Not sure my Inquisitor can be that level-headed and mature about someone rejecting and insulting their shared roots. I also don't remember enough about exactly what you find out at the temple to know for sure how my Lavellan will feel about it herself.
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Do you guys feel like Sera grows in any way over the course of the game?
I think ove rthe course of the game and in particular Trespasser she mellows out. It's just hard for her at first I think because she's never really had anyone who cares that much about her and I think in the end she kind of feels like that the Inqusition is like her home I just think it takes he ra whlie to figure things out in her head due to what she's learnt as a child. Lets not forget she's still quite young I think so doesn't have the life experience that saysomeone 10 years older than her might have such as the Inquisitor or Cassandra has. I admit I did enjoy her little romance. The prank scenes in particular were funny. But at the end of the day once you get to know her she is quiet sweet but I think you really need to get to know her to understand the kind of person she is. Because I have to admit at first I didn't like her that much and whlist she's still not my favourite after doing her romance I have warmed to her a bit.
Husband is trying to wrap up companion quests and Sera just won't make cookies. He just did What Pride has Wrought so all the cut scenes had been done. All the conversation trees exhausted. The "in the field" quests where he helps the little people in the hinterlands are already completed.
I think she was giving him Neutral Greetings but then he judged Rainier and Samson the way she liked.
She was then giving him the warm/Friendly greetings. So I sent him to go get all her caches. he got 5-6 he hadn't gotten before. No cookies.
Sent him to that wedding in VR, wished them a long happy life. No cookies.
So she was already using warm greetings and then he got 8-11 more points with these actions. 🤷
So I told him to go to sleep for now and try killing a dragon with her tomorrow. I think that's his last chance, although I think he's already killed a dragon with her anyway so it'll probably only get him a dead dragon and no where with her.
Any other semi secret ways of pleasing her that aren't on her Wiki?
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Husband is trying to wrap up companion quests and Sera just won't make cookies. He just did What Pride has Wrought so all the cut scenes had been done. All the conversation trees exhausted. The "in the field" quests where he helps the little people in the hinterlands are already completed.
I think she was giving him Neutral Greetings but then he judged Rainier and Samson the way she liked.
She was then giving him the warm/Friendly greetings. So I sent him to go get all her caches. he got 5-6 he hadn't gotten before. No cookies.
Sent him to that wedding in VR, wished them a long happy life. No cookies.
So she was already using warm greetings and then he got 8-11 more points with these actions. 🤷
So I told him to go to sleep for now and try killing a dragon with her tomorrow. I think that's his last chance, although I think he's already killed a dragon with her anyway so it'll probably only get him a dead dragon and no where with her.
Any other semi secret ways of pleasing her that aren't on her Wiki?
I'm not sure if this is helpful at all, but I remember on my first-ever play-through (male inquisitor), it felt like the cookie scene happened REALLY late in the game.
My second play-through (female inquisitor), it seemed to happen much earlier. Could her trust possibly be affected a bit by the inquisitor's gender? I know I get a couple very different lines from Cassandra when I play my female inquisitor ("like Andraste long ago, once again the fate of Thedas will be determined by a woman. It makes me proud to know you"), and she seemed to open up to me more easily. (NO idea if this is actually a thing; just conjecture... )
In any case, I'd also make sure there aren't any Red Jenny quests sitting on your War Table that need completion. I think I recall doing them late in-game on my first play-through. That could be it, too? Maybe?
By the way, this post made me miss my roof chats with Sera. (Hadn't had one for a while.) So I looked around a bit with cinematic tools and finally spotted where she and Inky go to have their roof time!
I've never played a character that gets along with Sera. What choices do I need to make that happen?
As much as she seems to dislike "elfy" elves... that's pretty much all I play, and Sera always ends up a good friend.... so, just speaking from my own personal experience... you've got to do all her Red Jenny quests on the War Table, visit/chat with her often (especially in Haven, because she'll be pissy in Skyhold if you ignore her up until then), tell her that her inquisition cookies are a great idea, spend roof time together, bring her along in your party when you're out and about, don't praise elven gods or "elfy"lifestyles in the cut-scenes, do pranks with her, suggest earwigs after the Winter Palace and, in general, don't choose angry reply options when you talk to her. She seems to really like Qunari females, so I imagine if you have a Qunari inky, she'll have an even easier time of getting Sera to warm up to her.
Post by dirtydiscolux on Sept 6, 2019 18:28:37 GMT
Finally did a Sera romance with a Dalish and I was bracing for the moment after WPHW but tbh it wasn't that bad. Sera was having a meltdown and my Inky basically just told Sera what she needed to hear and they got on with loving each other. I didn't take that scene as terrible, or think badly of Sera. Also, in Trespasser she was incredibly loving and supportive when my Inky found out the truth. Taking everything together I liked her romance a lot.
Sure, I banished the Wardens, which is one decision she disapproves of. But everything else was done right: Letting her kill Pel Harmond, doing her war table missions, getting the prank scene and so on.
Hell, gaining Solas' friendship after conscripting the mages was faster than this. Still have WHWE and WPHW remaining to get more approval, but still. It shouldn't be this hard.
Sure, I banished the Wardens, which is one decision she disapproves of. But everything else was done right: Letting her kill Pel Harmond, doing her war table missions, getting the prank scene and so on.
Hell, gaining Solas' friendship after conscripting the mages was faster than this. Still have WHWE and WPHW remaining to get more approval, but still. It shouldn't be this hard.
well it slightly depends on your race+class combination
Sera disapproves hard of an elven inquisitor who (in her words) is to "elfy" ...bonus points if you're a mage
then again...even my elfy elf had no trouble befriending her...so..dunno what it might be
Always something to be killed, and I’m the one to do it – Hero of Ferelden ‘Hawke this, Hawke that,’ Why does everything fall to me? - Champion of Kirkwall Our concern must be the order and safety of this world, not the next. - The Inquisitor
People are messy, but they're trying, and I'm going to make sure they get that chance - Commander Shepard
Sure, I banished the Wardens, which is one decision she disapproves of. But everything else was done right: Letting her kill Pel Harmond, doing her war table missions, getting the prank scene and so on.
Hell, gaining Solas' friendship after conscripting the mages was faster than this. Still have WHWE and WPHW remaining to get more approval, but still. It shouldn't be this hard.
well it slightly depends on your race+class combination
Sera disapproves hard of an elven inquisitor who (in her words) is to "elfy" ...bonus points if you're a mage
then again...even my elfy elf had no trouble befriending her...so..dunno what it might be
I'm rolling an Andrastian, pro-Circle human, so I'm as lost as you are.
I swear, getting the famous cookie scene will be my greatest accomplishment in Inquisition, if it happens. Lol.
well it slightly depends on your race+class combination
Sera disapproves hard of an elven inquisitor who (in her words) is to "elfy" ...bonus points if you're a mage
then again...even my elfy elf had no trouble befriending her...so..dunno what it might be
I'm rolling an Andrastian, pro-Circle human, so I'm as lost as you are.
I swear, getting the famous cookie scene will be my greatest accomplishment in Inquisition, if it happens. Lol.
heh, I know how you feel
the first time one of my Wardens actually got Sten to call them Kadan in dialogue I jumped for joy and actually cried
Always something to be killed, and I’m the one to do it – Hero of Ferelden ‘Hawke this, Hawke that,’ Why does everything fall to me? - Champion of Kirkwall Our concern must be the order and safety of this world, not the next. - The Inquisitor
People are messy, but they're trying, and I'm going to make sure they get that chance - Commander Shepard
Always something to be killed, and I’m the one to do it – Hero of Ferelden ‘Hawke this, Hawke that,’ Why does everything fall to me? - Champion of Kirkwall Our concern must be the order and safety of this world, not the next. - The Inquisitor
People are messy, but they're trying, and I'm going to make sure they get that chance - Commander Shepard
You know, it's kinda weird that Sera talks about elves who shamed her for not being elfy.
The only ones she could've interacted with were city elves, and they're more like humans with pointed ears. They're unlikely to care about elfiness all that much, which is reinforced by the Vhenadahl codex:
"Mostly the old ways are gone. Each generation forgets a little more of the old tongue, a little more of the traditions. And the few things we keep become simple habits, the meaning long since faded.
So it is with the vhenadahl, the tree of the people. Every alienage has one, I'm told. Or they used to. When I was a little girl, my mother told me the tree was a symbol of Arlathan, but not even she knew more. Keeping the vhenadahl is just a habit, now. Many cities have let theirs wither and die, then chopped them up for firewood. No great loss."