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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on May 17, 2020 15:34:49 GMT
Morning, all. So last night I decided to upgrade my monitor from the 60z 27" Samsung S27D850 which is now at least five or six years old (1440p @ 59/60hz w/ 4 ms RT). It retailed for 649.99 Cdn and I bought it brand new for 449, so I got a deal. I have enjoyed gaming at 1440p and 27 inches has been a decent size and upgrade from a 24 inch 1080p monitor that I had used previously. But recently I have really felt like I wanted something bigger size and higher res.
So after weeks of hunting down the monitor that checks all my 'boxes' (such as 32 inch, 4K, G-sync 144hz etc) I decided to go with the ACER Predator XB321HK......I"ve read and watche at least 10 different reviews about it, and aside from one saying 'they don't like the aesthetics', or 'it can't swivel' there are no actually bad or negative reviews about it. In terms of gaming performance, everyone....everyone has been "blown away" by it. So in that regard, I feel I made a really good choice (over going with, say, 27 inch 1440p at 165hz....that was also my other choice, but I couldn't find IPS panels they were all only TN panels which I don't like.).
My concern is, whether or not my GTX 1080FTW 2 will support it and run it adequately. I have checked Nvidia's and EVGA's websites as well as youtube videos from TekSyndicate, Linus Tech Tips and even other 'user created' videos of Jedi Fallen Order (with system set-ups similar to my own) and they all appear to be running 4K @ 60 hz on a single GTX 1080.......so I guess I have little if nothing to worry about.
I'm just paranoid. Because if this doesn't work out, my next upgrade will be a new GPU though the one I want (RTX Super 2080 FTW3 Ultra Gaming) is out of stock even from EVGA....Not sure why. And the Ti versions are still well over 1000 dollars.
EDIT: I wanted to test how my system would run 4K at 60hz in games like ANDROMEDA, ANTHEM, and Fallen Order......and while the performance in ANDROMEDA is somehat disappointing for me it is still playable (35 to 60 FPS using FRAPS), I think that the Frostbite Engine and maybe ANDROMEDA itself wasn't really optimized for 4K all that well, I'm guessing. THough I do remember Aaryn Flynn doing the demo where he specifically says "this scene was meant to be viewed with a 4K display" so maybe I am wrong on that part, and maybe it is just my system that isn't quite up to par for that game. HOwever, I then went on to test Fallen Order and was utterly amazed at not only the graphical beauty....but the fast, consistent performance. with V-sync OFF and all Settings on their default "EPIC" Setting.... I was getting a minium of 85 FPS sustained. The Max FPS was 145 with absolutely 0 screen tearing (which I was looking for specifically)....so I would presume that Fallen Order was better optimized for 4K performance than ANDROMEDA but that's just a guess. Fallen Order looks absolutely stunning in 4K, and this monitor the PD32U from BenQ is kinda dark over all. I'm finding that the colours don't exactly 'pop' they're not as bright and vibrant as I expected. THough that could just be a simple adjustment in the settings of the monitor because all the 8K photos by dad has taken with his Nikon D850 look stunning.
But this is with a monitor that was built for hi-res photo editing, not Gaming......So I can only assume that with the monitor I have just purchased because it was built specifically for 4K Gaming in mind....that I will get better over all performance from it even than what I am currently seeing with my dad's monitor.
*Fingers and toes crossed*
I've never personally seen a 1440p/144-165 hz monitor so I can't compare. I can imagine that the increase in frames would lend it self to a smoother experience.....But I can only imagine that I haven't seen it so I don't know. For games like ANTHEM, DAI, Andromeda and Fallen Order....can anyone tell me if they notice a difference between 4K at 60hz vs 1440p at 144hz?
I don't play first-person shooters like COD and Modern Warefare so I'm not really into more frames = better response time= higher kill count= better playing experience and all that jazz.....I play games like Mass Effect and Fallen Order for graphics and story.....The immersive visual experience.
Thoughts? Has anyone seen the XB321HK in action and can they give me their impression of it?
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Post by BamBam the Destroyer on May 18, 2020 10:26:59 GMT
The frostbite engine was "optimized" to look good and be unmoddable.
That said, it was my understanding that 4k was mostly a technical thing that hadn't really translated into reality for most entertainment. Do you actually see a difference?
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on May 18, 2020 13:44:10 GMT
The frostbite engine was "optimized" to look good and be unmoddable. That said, it was my understanding that 4k was mostly a technical thing that hadn't really translated into reality for most entertainment. Do you actually see a difference? Well, to be honest Bambam.....it's hard to say. Even with a resolution of 1440p my Samsung monitor appeared to bebrighter, colours seemed more vibrant and seemed to 'pop' (if you take my meaning) though I think that is simply a matter of adjusting the Settings on the monitor...But with my dad's BenQ monitor there is definitely more details and textures to be seen. Games rendered/displayed at 4K definitely reveal more textures and detail. For example, with ANDROMEDA on close-ups of Ryder, I can now see fine details such as individual hairs and pours in his skin. I didn't get quite that amount of detail with my Samsung 1440 monitor. So I guess it's a bit of a trade-off. Yet the photos my dad has taken with his Nikon D850 of 48MP (megapixels) look absolutely stunning in detail, brightness, sharpness and colours on the BenQ 4K monitor, so why can't games running at 4K look as nright and sharp? And I still have yet to see a 1440p 144hz monitor for comparison. I would like to see what a 1440p 144hz monitor looks and plays like. But honestly, my eyes are not 20-20 so I doubt I would notice a difference in FPS-- though I am able to see screen tearing, which I know my new monitor with its G-Sync will be able to eliminate. I guess this is just anxiousness talking....because I made a huge purchase and I'm anxious to get it and have it set up to see what it's like. I am sure even at 60hz, with 4K resolution and the benefit of G-Sync, the picture quality will be absolutely stunning and much better than what I am accustomed to seeing.....so I'll try not to worry too much.
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Post by regack on May 18, 2020 14:16:02 GMT
The frostbite engine was "optimized" to look good and be unmoddable. That said, it was my understanding that 4k was mostly a technical thing that hadn't really translated into reality for most entertainment. Do you actually see a difference? Well, to be honest Bambam.....it's hard to say. Even with a resolution of 1440p my Samsung monitor was brighter, colours seemed more vibrant and seemed to 'pop' (if you take my meaning)...But with my dad's BenQ monitor there is definitely more details and textures to be seen. So I guess it's a bit of a trade-off. Yet the photos my dad has taken with his Nikon D850 of 48MP (megapixels) look absolutely stunning on the BenQ 4K monitor, so why can't games running at 4K look as nright and sharp? And I still have yet to see a 1440p 144hz monitor for comparison. The 144hz isn't going to have an impact on static images, but it might also be that you are detecting the flicker from the screen refreshing? The monitors also probably all have different color profiles/settings, so it's really hard to compare unless they're calibrated similarly (Windows 10 has a built-in calibration tool, but it's still kind of a personal preferences thing). I had a 27in 1440p 60hz monitor with no anti-glare, and a 34in 3440x1440 75hz ultrawide with anti-glare. The single biggest difference between these two is the anti-glare... and the more obvious ultrawide dimensions. I can say with certainty that I hate the anti-glare, it really muddies up the images something fierce depending on how strong it is. I really love the ultrawide, but it's not perfect because that stupid anti-glare coating. Pretty sure that's completely subjective though.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on May 18, 2020 14:25:41 GMT
Well, to be honest Bambam.....it's hard to say. Even with a resolution of 1440p my Samsung monitor was brighter, colours seemed more vibrant and seemed to 'pop' (if you take my meaning)...But with my dad's BenQ monitor there is definitely more details and textures to be seen. So I guess it's a bit of a trade-off. Yet the photos my dad has taken with his Nikon D850 of 48MP (megapixels) look absolutely stunning on the BenQ 4K monitor, so why can't games running at 4K look as nright and sharp? And I still have yet to see a 1440p 144hz monitor for comparison. The 144hz isn't going to have an impact on static images, but it might also be that you are detecting the flicker from the screen refreshing? The monitors also probably all have different color profiles/settings, so it's really hard to compare unless they're calibrated similarly (Windows 10 has a built-in calibration tool, but it's still kind of a personal preferences thing). I had a 27in 1440p 60hz monitor with no anti-glare, and a 34in 3440x1440 75hz ultrawide with anti-glare. The single biggest difference between these two is the anti-glare... and the more obvious ultrawide dimensions. I can say with certainty that I hate the anti-glare, it really muddies up the images something fierce depending on how strong it is. I really love the ultrawide, but it's not perfect because that stupid anti-glare coating. Pretty sure that's completely subjective though. Hey, morning, Reggie. Thanks for your post. I can say with certainty that I am the exact opposite. I much prefer a matte finish/anti-glare....well, because I hate hate hate glare on the screen. It washes things out, it's impossible to see through....and over time if you have light shining onto the screen, it can damage the screen and cause it to fade over time.
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Post by regack on May 18, 2020 16:16:16 GMT
The 144hz isn't going to have an impact on static images, but it might also be that you are detecting the flicker from the screen refreshing? The monitors also probably all have different color profiles/settings, so it's really hard to compare unless they're calibrated similarly (Windows 10 has a built-in calibration tool, but it's still kind of a personal preferences thing). I had a 27in 1440p 60hz monitor with no anti-glare, and a 34in 3440x1440 75hz ultrawide with anti-glare. The single biggest difference between these two is the anti-glare... and the more obvious ultrawide dimensions. I can say with certainty that I hate the anti-glare, it really muddies up the images something fierce depending on how strong it is. I really love the ultrawide, but it's not perfect because that stupid anti-glare coating. Pretty sure that's completely subjective though. Hey, morning, Reggie. Thanks for your post. I can say with certainty that I am the exact opposite. I much prefer a matte finish/anti-glare....well, because I hate hate hate glare on the screen. It washes things out, it's impossible to see through....and over time if you have light shining onto the screen, it can damage the screen and cause it to fade over time. Yes, it's all about your situation. My computer is in a room with 1 window nowhere near the computer, and I tend to only end up playing at night, in the dark, so there is pretty much no reflection. In a brighter room, the glare might be annoying, but I always preferred the almost liquid-like appearance of the screen without the anti-glare anyway. There is some big variation between anti-glare coatings, so it could be that between the Samsung, BenQ and Acer, the various coatings make them look different. Anyway, just some thoughts 
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on May 18, 2020 16:30:33 GMT
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on May 22, 2020 23:52:22 GMT
So just about 45 minutes ago, I got my precious-- and she's a beastly thing! It's HUGE! I can't wait to put it together and hook it up tomorrow....See the world of ANTHEM and Fallen Order in beautiful 4K with G-Sync!
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Post by Lavochkin on May 23, 2020 3:10:09 GMT
I'm still rocking 1440p and will do so for quite a while.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on May 23, 2020 12:49:27 GMT
So just about 45 minutes ago, I got my precious-- and she's a beastly thing! It's HUGE! I can't wait to put it together and hook it up tomorrow....See the world of ANTHEM and Fallen Order in beautiful 4K with G-Sync! So I got it all hooked up this morning.....and all I can say is "WOW!"   Absolutely gorgeous picture on this monitor.....Much better than my Dad's, I think. Totally worth the money, now let's see what it performs like in Gaming.....I'll play around with the settings and see if I can get the G-sync to work. But even just the picture quality, I am blown away and totally satisfied with my purchase.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on May 23, 2020 13:50:08 GMT
So I enabled G-Sync, but haven't played with any of the Colour, Brightness, Gamma settings etc just yet....For my liking the Default Settings are just fine. The picture is absolutely gorgeous. To further test this, I ran ANDROMEDA and ANTHEM......and Wow, especially ANTHEM....the world of Bastion has never looked so life-like, bright and full of so many colours as it does in 4K! Honestly, I've never had a more beautiful monitor. And with G-Sync enabled, the cap of even 60 hz/60 FPS is perfectly fine by me. But I've noticed this monitor does have an OverDrive feature that internally bumps up the hz to 75, so that's even better. It's perfectly smooth and stutter/tear free and the realism just makes everything much more enjoyable to look at.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on May 23, 2020 20:14:03 GMT
So I've discovered my first "WTF" moment with my new monitor. It didn't happen earlier today when I played ANDROMEDA, Fallen Order or Anthem.....But in the past few minutes, when I play ANDROMEDA, my GPU revs up like crazy, gets up to 73 degrees....and my new monitor flashes black and says "NO SIGNAL" at about 1.5 second intervals.
My GPU is a 1080 FTW 2 w/ICX, my CPU is an Intel 6850K.....I'm wondering/beginning to think that my 1080 FTW2 isn't quite enough card to drive 4K.....so maybe a new GPU is on th horizon a lot sooner than I thought! But does anyone else have any thoughts on this, why it would suddenly start now? And why is it happening at all? What could be the cause. The monitor is brand-spanking-new and there isn't a flaw in it at all. I wonder if it is the Over Clock setting that I was playing around with.....???
EDIT: I made adjustments to the OverDrive/Overclock settings from "Extreme" (which I think puts it up to 120hz, or so I"ve heard, and "Normal" is a small boost to 75hz) but for safety's sake, I switched it complete OFF which keeps the monitor running at its stock factory default of 60hz, and I still have G-Sync enabled so that is the main thing. But after loading ANTHEM and ANDROMEDA and playing them for about 5 minutes each, I was noticing zero black screens. This is good because they were previously flashing every second.....so problem solved, I think, I hope!
2nd Edit: Actually.....Unfortunately, the problem is not solved. I tried playing ANTHEM again (and same split-second flashes to black screen saying "No Signal") On/off, On/Off.....Signal, No Signal.......Over and over. Same with ANDROMEDA. But it doesn't happen at all on Fallen Order or the ME OT or DAI. Just ANTHEM and Andromeda. Damn it. I truly hope it's not a problem with my monitor. I'd rather it be my GPU at this point, not my new monitor. But why is it happening at all....????
Thoughts, help, advice, suggestions......Anything anyone can say might be helpful!
Thanks!
One More Edit: I think I finally solved whatever the problem was by reseting the monitor back to its factory defaults as it was when I first connected it and before I started fooling around with all the fancy buttons. I think I"ve learned my lesson.....Don't touch the buttons!
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on May 25, 2020 18:02:02 GMT
My GPU is a 1080 FTW 2 w/ICX, my CPU is an Intel 6850K.....I'm wondering/beginning to think that my 1080 FTW2 isn't quite enough card to drive 4K.....so maybe a new GPU is on th horizon a lot sooner than I thought!" (Energizer Bunny 211, May 23rd).
Today, May 25th 2020....after noticing my GPU idling at 60C and revving up to 75, 80C during gaming with slight flickering in ANTHEM, DAI and ME:A....I have decided to totally splurge and I finally found the GPU I've been waiting for; the RTX 2080 Super FTW3 Ultra Gaming. It's world's cheaper than even any of the the TI cards, let alone the FTW3 TI (2300 after tax at Canada Computers, 25 to 2600 on Amazon for the FTW3 TI)....and Amazon was the only place I found it in stock, though even Amazon was out of stock just a few days ago. But having finally found it in stock on Amazon from a third-party seller, it was at a price found that I thought to be reasonable considering the price of other retailers like Canada Computers and even the lack of stock in general. And I think it will properly support my new monitor. Plus, I am hoping to be able to sell my 1080FTW2 for 300 to 400 dollars, to off-set some of the cost.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on May 27, 2020 12:09:09 GMT
Well it only took a day but I got my new GPU (the RTX 2080 Super FTW 3 Ultra Gaming), and man was it a beast! But it fits inside my case quite nicely and runs beautifully. Performance wise, I guess I didn't quite know what to expect...I was hoping for a stable 60 FPS at 4K w/ G-Sync enabled....But in games like ANTHEM I'm only getting 45 t 50, though I guess that should have been expected as 4K is hard to drive with consistency.
I do see a slight bump in FPS performance overall, but where this new card really outshines my 1080 is in the level of detail , textures, lighting and colours it renders. That's what I'm impressed with the most and that's what I'm happy with.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on May 27, 2020 17:10:51 GMT
I just tried some benchmarking using UserBenchMark and Heaven 4.0. In CPUser Bench Mark (which tests your entire system) my system scored an oever all percentile of 90% (which meant that for all the rigs that were comparable to mine, I scored better than 90% of them). My GPU tested at a percentile of 145%,coming in above the average of 130% (stress tests, rendering, lighting, particle blooming etc) for similar models. And even though I sometimes do notice a bit of flickering, it's far smoother than my previous setup at 1440p and it looks waaay better so I'm happy I have spent the money on these upgrades.
In Heaven (which I just completed) at 4K with Max Settings I scored a Max FPS of 70, minimum of 25 and Average of 45 which is expected. At 1600p (2560x1600) I scored a Max FPS of 150, average 50 and Minimum of 32, but for some reason I noticed minor screen tearing and camera stuttering at that resolution.
In any case even though 1600p had a crazy FPS count, I'll take 4K and Gsync/V-sync on maxing out at 60FPS any day if it means better visual fidelity and quality.
Again, not quite sure what I expected over my 1080 because that wasn't shabby either....But for what it is, I'm happy with it. Would like a stable FPS of 75 with Ultra settings in all my games...and maybe I could get that if I OC'd my monitor...but I don't want to risk it cutting out again like it did because I didn't know what I would have pushed to make it wonky, and the only way to fix it is to hit the monitor's reset button to get it back to factory defaults, which I am more than happy with so I will just leave things well enough alone and stop complaining, LOL
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on May 29, 2020 20:33:18 GMT
So after running perfectly....I mean perfectly all day yesterday and the day before in all my games....I played ANTHEM this morning and it was still running beautifully....But I just played it again, and within 5 minutes, I got that damned annoying "NO SIGNAL" message on my monitor again! And this is with my new GPU!   Here I thought replacing the GPU would solve the problem.....Well apparently it hasn't! WTSF!!! |
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Post by mousestalker on May 29, 2020 21:25:51 GMT
So after running perfectly....I mean perfectly all day yesterday and the day before in all my games....I played ANTHEM this morning and it was still running beautifully....But I just played it again, and within 5 minutes, I got that damned annoying "NO SIGNAL" message on my monitor again! And this is with my new GPU! Here I thought replacing the GPU would solve the problem.....Well apparently it hasn't! WTSF!!!
Try checking your conmnections. Also, the cable might be going bad. Try a replacement cable. Another reason might be lack of power.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on May 29, 2020 23:30:10 GMT
Thanks for the post and suggestions, Mouse. I have checked all the connections and they are fine. I have turned off DLSS in ANTHEM and that appears to have solved the problem....played it for over an hour with absolutely zero issues of any kind, where as previously with DLSS enabled in ANTHEM, it was fine yesterday....But this evening when the problem started up again, I noticed it within 2 minutes. I'll keep my eye on things...But I pray it's not a monitor or GPU issue. I'm wondering if my 850 watt Platinum PSU is powerful enough though? The thought crossed my mind that it might be a PSU issue....But if that were the case I would have noticed issues with more than just one or two games and in less time than 4 days. It would have been almost immediate if it were an issue of the PSU being under-powered. I might just go to BestBuy an buy a proper newer grade 4K DP cable if this keeps up, but right now I am using the DP cable that came with the monitor...so I figure that's gotta be okay, right?
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on May 30, 2020 0:55:28 GMT
So....In my on-going story of problems between my monitor and my GPU, I haev just finished a Chat session with someone from Nvidia and after collecting the Information from MSInfo32, he told me that the likely culprit is an out-of-date BIOS. He said with the hardware/firmware of these newer GPUs in the 20 series it is best to also make sure that your motherboard's BIOS is up to date so that all the hardware can communicate properly. If the BIOS is out of date by 4 years (because honestly, I haven't updated the BIOS since I bought the motherboard back in 2016-- I don't know how to do that, and I was honest with him about it) and it is trying to communicate with a modern GPU, DDR4 or CPU or any other piece of current-gen hardware....the messages won't be received correctly between the all the hardware. To solve this problem it is important that you update the BIOS to the most recent version available. This should solve the communication problem between the motherboard, new GPU and new Monitor.
Now, I have searched the Gigabyte website an found the two most recent BIOS versions, the most recent one being from June of 2019. Do I need to install them in consecutive sequence or can I just go right to the most recent version? And how do you do this exactly? I have never done this and I am very worried of rendering my PC comppletely unusable if I make a mistake.
Is it safe? Can I do this on my own or should I take it in to CanadaComputers and have them do it?
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jun 14, 2020 2:33:20 GMT
So....after two weeks of no issues with my monitor losing singal.......the bloody thing started acting up again this afternoon. I would load ANTHEM and as soon as it got to the main screen, I'd get a black screen with "NO SIGNAL" that would just flash on/off, picture/no picture. So I connected with Gigabyte (they dismissed what the rep from EVGA told me about my BIOS being the cause), yet they did not offer any other suggestion. So I contacted ACER, and they said it is more than likely a cause of a GPU Driver that is misbehaving, or for some reason there is something abot your monitor that it is not playing nicely with. EVGA's solution: ALways make sure to update my GPU Drivers as soon as they become available (which I have been, and always do).
So no one knows what is going on, nor does any one of these manufacturers want to either help solve the problem or offer a solution.
Now, the easiest probable cause would be if it were the GPU- fine. Send it back to EVGA telling them the problem....they will either fix it or replace it no questions asked, and for free. EVGA's Warranty and Customer Service in that respect are second-to-none. But just the same, I don't want to return my GPU or Monitor, because they were expensive. I'd hate to think that anything was defective with either item; yet that is my luck.
Anyways, I'll leave things alone for now and deal with things as they happen. I just needed to vent.
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Post by rewindbutton on Jun 15, 2020 8:45:20 GMT
Some thoughts on this:
-if the no signal happens only when playing -> issue is in the 3D/GPU/PSU
-if not, check/replace cable
My best bets:
-GPU not getting enough power -> check your PSU specs and that the cables are connected to proper rails
-PSU failing -> replace PSU
-some weird Geforce driver issue. These are not uncommon, but are notoriously difficult to diagnose. Roll back drivers until you find a stable build.
Hope this helps and Cheers!
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jun 15, 2020 12:42:24 GMT
Some thoughts on this: -if the no signal happens only when playing -> issue is in the 3D/GPU/PSU -if not, check/replace cable My best bets: -GPU not getting enough power -> check your PSU specs and that the cables are connected to proper rails -PSU failing -> replace PSU -some weird Geforce driver issue. These are not uncommon, but are notoriously difficult to diagnose. Roll back drivers until you find a stable build. Hope this helps and Cheers! Thanks, Rewind! I first began noticing the problem of my monitor losing signal, just after I got my new monitor and I was still using my GTX 1080 FTW2. And after a week of it happening, I thought "well it's probably happening because the 1080 isn't quite powerful enogh to sustain 4K resolution at 60hz. So the following week I purchased my new 2080 Super FTW 3 Ultra Gaming, and while it didn't happen as frequently, it still did happen, the recorded period with my new 2080 was May 25th to May 30th. Then nothing. Then it happened again on June 13th for about 2 hours. It's now June 15th and even yesterday, June 14th-- I played all day yesterday under perfect conditions without issue. Today, I have yet to see any ill effects. In my conversation with EVGA last week Thursday, they assured me that an 850 Watt Platinum rated was "more than enough". I've both checked and replaced cables. I went from an older DP 1.2 cable that I had been using for four years, to the DP 1.4 cable that was packaged with my monitor. I've also checked the PSU and yes, they are connected to the proper rails; this also did not happen with my old GPU and/or old 1440p monitor. I think if it were a power supply issue I would have noticed something with my previous hardware, not just after installing new ones even though the 2080 Super is 35 watts more powerful than my 1080 FTW 2. (215 fo the 1080 and 250 max for the 2080 Super). I have a 900 Watt/1500VA UPS Battery Back-up. The software I have, unless I'm reading it incorrectly, has a 'Performance Meter" that measures how much power the PC draws from the battery, or how much the UPS is supplying to the PC at all times. When the PC is idle, it uses a total of 60 watts and even under load, my system only uses a total of 380 watts from the Battery. I've had previous issues (due to a severely under-powered UPS) where the power draw would max out within two seconds under any kind of load (Gaming, Web Browsing...didn't matter). So I contacted UPS and they suggested that I buy a whole new UPS that is more powerful. They analyzed my system and its purpose (I said it was primarily a high-end gaming PC) and they said 'based on your hardware configuration and your use, we strongly recommend a UPS of 900 watts/1500VA, and here is the best one we have at the moment. It's a brand new model just released." Finally....after double-checking/trouble-shooting using my dad's 4K BENQ monitor (seeing nothing for 10 minutes) and then replacing it and going back to my own (around 4 pm ET), I played ANTHEM all day yesterday (or at least it felt like it).....it was a solid four hours at any rate....I did not see any issues. Today, June 15th about ten minutes ago (about 835 am ET) I went online and found an online power consumption calculator, and according to OuterVision, a system like my own (with 1 M.2, 1 SSD, 32GB DDR4, an Intel 6850K, an Crsair H80i v2 Liq Cooler) uses a total of 567 Watts and they recommend an 1100 Watt UPS (my UPS battery from APC is 1500 watts). And today I've had my PC on this morning since 7:30 ET and have yet to see any problems like I've reported. So as I said....it's very random. Very. So random in fact, I could fool myself into believing that it doesn't happen, and it only occurs when playing games, and typically very specific games. It most frequently occurs while playing ANTHEM, but I have also seen it while playing Jedi: Fallen Order- though not nearly as severe an occurrence. Very strange, but at this point I am resigned to accepting it and dealing with it ehenever it happens....Otherwise I am going to leave well enough alone.
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Post by rewindbutton on Jun 17, 2020 7:32:04 GMT
No problem, just trying to help a fellow gamer out.  You've done a good job troubleshooting the problem so far and provided plenty of information, which helps a lot. There is one thing though that's nagging me, but you'll have to take it with a grain of salt. I have a background in electronics, where I specialized in PSUs. And I've burned my fair share of PSUs in gaming rigs.  So when I point my finger at your PSU again, you know where this is coming from. Your PSU wasn't acting up before, because you weren't pushing it to the limits. But with the new monitor plugged in, the problems started. The reason for this is the much bigger load due to larger textures and a lot more pixels being shown and calculations happening. This taxes the whole system, not just the GPU/GC. Also, I'm judging by the Intel 6850K, that your rig is about 3 years old? Serious gaming has probably worn it quite a bit. PSU components get very hot under load, and after a while they begin to fail. Random failing under stress being the usual symptom. This is exactly the reason why servers have two hot swap PSUs. I did calculations, and would argue that your rig uses about 600W under load. I recommend a 40% overhead, which means a 1000W PSU should be more than enough. And yes, I'm aware of the overkill controversy.  Leaving it alone for now is certainly an option, nothing wrong about that. That's about it, Cheers! |
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Post by shaqfu on Jun 17, 2020 9:27:00 GMT
I had a similar issue on my monitor once. What fixed it for me was a driver update for the monitor itself.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jun 17, 2020 15:29:56 GMT
Morning Rewind, Shaqfu. Thank you both for your recent posts. Firstly, let me say that I tried installing the Drivers for the (POS Acer XB321HK) and they did absolutely NOTHING. The "drivers" such as they were, were just a bunch of text files and other types of unusable file extensions. There wasn't actually any EXE file that needed to be installed (like a lot of monitors have).
Yes, Rewind, my CPU is from 2016. July 2016 to be exact. I bought it brand new when it was basically just released and paid 825 for it (and that was after getting a 75.00 dollar CAD off deal from NCIX because I was bundling it with my Gigabyte motherboard, which I also got a deal on, from 525 to 445.). But, yes, the entire system (minus the new 2080 Super) is approaching four years old. But that's a fraction of time both compared to previous systems I've built and kept running for a number of years, and also the amount of time the power supply is warrantied for, which is 10 years. I understand and agree with everything you've said, it makes sense. I just haven't seen other usage scenerios and/or issues that would lead me to believe that my PSU is even starting to fail. But to your point, I have considered an upgrade of my PSU to the 1000 Watt Platinum....but it's 399.99 CAD at Canada Computers.
Now, I will have credit on my CC (part of which I will use to buy a new monitor....and though it is not a "Gaming Monitor" I have used my dad's BENQ PD3200U for quite a while...and it looks and works beautifully. No tearing, texture popping or other ill effects) And it's half the price of what I paid for the POS Acer Predator.) I've looked around, and while there isn't a lot of choice, the BENQ 3200U, I feel is the best alternative even if it is not designed for gaming.
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Absolutely gorgeous picture on this monitor.....Much better than my Dad's, I think. Totally worth the money, now let's see what it performs like in Gaming.....I'll play around with the settings and see if I can get the G-sync to work. But even just the picture quality, I am blown away and totally satisfied with my purchase.
Here I thought replacing the GPU would solve the problem.....Well apparently it hasn't! WTSF!!!
So when I point my finger at your PSU again, you know where this is coming from.
