Sabotage Tests, (Heavy Melee 1.5x multiplier, Backfire Multiplier, etc) (tyhw et al)

17 Sep 2012, tyhw posted

Update: Sabotage debuff is multiplicative to melee mod multiplier.

Test:
QFI 35% melee damage bonus, Juggernaut IV (8.25%), Omniblade V

Heavy melee:
Geth trooper: 1856-779.7498=1076.2502
Expected: 600*(1+.35+.085)*1.25=1076.25 OK

Sabotage, then Heavy melee:
Geth trooper: 1856-241.6248=1614.3752
Expected: 600*(1+.35+.085)*1.25*1.5=1614.375 OK

Update 2: However, QFI melee is not considered a tech attack.

Test:
QFI 35% melee damage bonus, Engineering kit III (10%)

Heavy melee:
Assault trooper: 1687.5-877.5=810
Expected: 600*(1+.35)=810. Engineering kit is not adding any damage to melee

14 Dec 2012, peddroelm posted:

Conclusions Sabotage 50% tech vulnerability

- DOES NOT AFFECT HOMMING GRENADE DAMAGE
- DOES NOT AFFECT SENTRY TURRET GUN DAMAGE
- DOES NOT AFFECT TSE light melee
- DOES AFFECT TSE heavy melee (global *1.5 multiplier)
- DOES AFFECT Tech combos (TB, FE, CE) (global *1.5 multiplier) (TSE can do serious TB damage vs shields) (sabotage + homming)

- Sentry turret gun damage is affected (suffers) from Armor DR like hit scan weapons

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turian saboteur 1050 shields (200/600 base melee attack)

Turret damage 75 * (1+0.3)


20% PD (consumable)
30% WD + 20% WD in case headshot
35% MD (*1.5 shotgun add-on)
15% MD gear

Second weapon is paladin X with 40% WD barrel

Sabotage backfire 300* (1+0.6) and tech vulnerability
Homming grenade 800* (1+0.2 + 0.3) // *0.5 as 12 DOT ticks //* 1.6 vs armor

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test vs silver Ravager (5400 armor)




Melee
Damage Received: 300.000000 LM
Damage Received: 300.000000
Damage Received: 675.000000 HM


Paladin X
Damage Received: 872.870117
Damage Received: 44.258301
Damage Received: 44.258301
Damage Received: 44.258301
Damage Received: 44.258301
Damage Received: 44.258301
Damage Received: 44.258301

Homming Grenade

Damage Received: 2176.000000 // impact
Damage Received: 90.666504 //DOT
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504

Sabotage + Homming

Damage Received: 2176.000000 // impact
Damage Received: 843.750000 // level 12 TB
Damage Received: 90.666504 //dot
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504


Turret fire in burst of 3 and is affected by armor DR

Damage Received: 82.500000 //(75 * 1.5) - 30 = 82.5
Damage Received: 82.500000
Damage Received: 82.500000

Sabotage + Turret (no extra damage)
Damage Received: 810.000000
Damage Received: 82.500000
Damage Received: 82.500000
Damage Received: 82.500000

Sabotage + HM
Damage Received: 810.000000
Damage Received: 1012.500000



Paladin + sabotage + 2 hommings


Damage Received: 872.870117 // paladin
Damage Received: 44.258301 // incendiary
Damage Received: 872.870117 //paladin
Damage Received: 810.000000 // sabotage
Damage Received: 168.454102 //incediary 2 stacks
Damage Received: 168.454102
Damage Received: 168.454102
Damage Received: 2176.000000 // homming impact
Damage Received: 843.750000 // TB
Damage Received: 168.454102 //incediary 2 stacks
Damage Received: 90.666504 // h DOT
Damage Received: 168.454102
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 168.454102
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 887.870117 // paladin impact (debuffed armor DR)
Damage Received: 343.966797
Damage Received: 887.870117 // paladin impact debuffed armor DR
Damage Received: 483.726563
Damage Received: 483.726563
Damage Received: 483.726563
Damage Received: 483.726563
Damage Received: 887.870117 // paladin impact debuffed armor DR
Damage Received: 411.979492
Damage Received: 810.000000 //sabotage
Damage Received: 411.979492
Damage Received: 411.979492
Damage Received: 411.979492
Damage Received: 2176.000000 //homming impact
Damage Received: 843.750000 //TB
Damage Received: 411.979492
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 411.979492
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504


lvl 7 Silver FE vs armor
100 * (1 + ((6 + 1 - 2) * 0.15)) * 2.25 * 2 = 787.5 // got this once without sabotage


lvl 12 silver TB vs armor *1.5 from tech vulnerability
100 * (1 + ((6 + 6 - 2) * 0.15)) * 2.25 * 1 * 1.5 = 843.75


Homming then sabotage

Damage Received: 2176.000000
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 810.000000 // sabotage
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504


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sabotage + homming

Damage Received: 810.000000 //sabotage
Damage Received: 2176.000000 // h impact
Damage Received: 843.750000 // 6+6 TB *1.5
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504


100 * (1 + ((6 + 6 - 2) * 0.15)) * 2.25 * 1 * 1.5 = 843.75





Damage Received: 872.870117 //paladin impact
Damage Received: 44.258301
Damage Received: 872.870117 //paladin impact
Damage Received: 168.336914
Damage Received: 810.000000 // sabotage
Damage Received: 872.870117 //paladin impact
Damage Received: 266.448730
Damage Received: 266.448730
Damage Received: 266.448730
Damage Received: 266.448730
Damage Received: 2176.000000 // homming impact
Damage Received: 1181.250000 // silver FE 7+1 vs armor
Damage Received: 266.448730
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 266.448730
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 2176.000000 //homming impact
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504


silver FE 7+1 vs armor with 50% tech vulnerability bonus
100 * (1 + ((6 + 1 - 2) * 0.15)) * 2.25 * 1.5 * 2 = 1181.25


Sentry turret + Homming (sentry turret is affected by Armor Dr)

Damage Received: 82.500000
Damage Received: 82.500000
Damage Received: 82.500000
Damage Received: 2176.000000
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 97.500000
Damage Received: 90.666504
Damage Received: 97.500000
Damage Received: 97.500000

12 April 2014, corlist posted:

Sabotage tech vulnerability + debuff


Sabotage's tech vulnerability stacks separately/multiplicatively instead of additvely with other debuffs such as proxy mine.

e.g. If a target was hit with a proxy mine (20%), scanned by a recon mine (25%) and sabotage, it will take (1 + .2 + .25) * 1.5 = 2.175x more damage.


This works for eligible tech powers, heavy melee attacks as well as all 3 tech combos.


Because of this, the Quarian Marksman using both a 25% tac scan and sabotage vulnerability can do up to 5900 heavy melee damage to non-armour defence.

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Krogan warlord fire hammer/ tech combo


Choosing fire hammer on electrical hammer increases its armour damage multiplier to 1.5x. The 250 damage DoT also benefits from this multiplier. This triples its base damage against armour to 750.

The DoT on fire hammer, along with electrical hammer itself, also benefits from melee weapon mods.

Fire hammer cannot prime fire explosions on shields (and probably also barriers).

Tech combo on electrical hammer only works when used to detonate tech combos - it does not work when it is used to prime.

Fire hammer's DoT can be absorbed by incendiary ammo because of a glitch, which massively increases the DoT dealt. This only happens when incendiary ammo is applied after fire hammer's DoT is applied.



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