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Post by roselavellan on Aug 4, 2016 17:32:46 GMT
Cass thinks I'm getting married to some mystery guy thanks to Varric lol I'm guessing she thinks I've moved on. Lol, yeah, that was a BW facepalm moment for me, since Cass is my Lavellan's BFF
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Post by Retro-bit Miss on Aug 5, 2016 2:09:27 GMT
I find it hard honestly because I would not put up with that shit irl. There's a love/hate going on and I my Lavellan is very mixed about it. I kinda wish she could have ran off into the safety of Cullen but he's a bit too boring after an ancient elven god 😳 I actually enjoyed how in Trespasser almost everyone can attempt to comfort you about losing Solas. They felt like real friends! One of the many reasons why Trespasser was so wonderful. First time I played it I honestly thought the anchor would kill her and she just wanted to see Solas for one last time... I always play Descend and Jaws of Hakkon before the final battle with Corypheus, mostly because I want to have Solas in my party for as long as possible. After my first play I re-loaded after beating Cory, went back to complete and collect every freaking damned thing in that game just so I could party with him longer and then the same with the DLC 😭😂😂 I swear I don't have a problem 😵😜
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Post by Ispan on Aug 5, 2016 5:42:19 GMT
I was pretty certain my Lavellan and Solas were about to have a sweet, tingly makeout/more scene in the grass by the lake. Nope. When Solas broke up with Lavellan after taking her vallaslin, I thought it was a Fenris-y thing and he would come back. Nope!At the end of the game with the party in the Great Hall Leliana tells you, "He could come back at any moment," and I honestly thought it was leading up to Solas meeting Lavellan in secret on the balcony one last time to say goodbye... NOPE. JUST A FUCKING LONELY, SAD-AS-SHIT SUNSET ON THE EMPTIEST BALCONY IN ALL OF THEDAS WTF. It wasn't until that moment that it sank in that it was really over; even if she waited for Solas, Solas wasn't waiting for her. Apparently Einian Lavellan was a hopeful and naive child, but being blind-sided again and again hardened that part of her. She eventually moved on to boinking people who caught her fancy (like that one dude with the hot accent who's obsessed with buckles in JoH) but relied on her friends for other comforts. THANK THE MAKER for Sera and Dorian (who... also broke her heart later, that jerk). After having so much time to examine Solas from an outside perspective instead of being swept up in him and blinded, Lavellan thought seeing Solas would feel cold and clinical. Reality punched her in the face with the feelings that sprang up again like no time had passed and the extreme sadness from knowing those emotions couldn't change anything. I'll admit, that "I'll run away with you forever!" kind of option was really appealing for a moment but... any feelings she had for Solas could never convince her to betray her friends. Maybe I'm a terrible person but imagining Sera, Dorian, and Cass reacting to Lavellan choosing to run away with Solas was probably the biggest deciding factor for me First time I played it I honestly thought the anchor would kill her and she just wanted to see Solas for one last time... Same D: But also... she sort of refuses to let him wash his hands of her. If she's going to die because of him, she won't go quietly and he'll have to witness the consequences of his actions firsthand.
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Post by opuspace on Aug 5, 2016 6:59:31 GMT
I was pretty certain my Lavellan and Solas were about to have a sweet, tingly makeout/more scene in the grass by the lake. Nope. When Solas broke up with Lavellan after taking her vallaslin, I thought it was a Fenris-y thing and he would come back. Nope!At the end of the game with the party in the Great Hall Leliana tells you, "He could come back at any moment," and I honestly thought it was leading up to Solas meeting Lavellan in secret on the balcony one last time to say goodbye... NOPE. JUST A FUCKING LONELY, SAD-AS-SHIT SUNSET ON THE EMPTIEST BALCONY IN ALL OF THEDAS WTF. It wasn't until that moment that it sank in that it was really over; even if she waited for Solas, Solas wasn't waiting for her. Apparently Einian Lavellan was a hopeful and naive child, but being blind-sided again and again hardened that part of her. She eventually moved on to boinking people who caught her fancy (like that one dude with the hot accent who's obsessed with buckles in JoH) but relied on her friends for other comforts. THANK THE MAKER for Sera and Dorian (who... also broke her heart later, that jerk). After having so much time to examine Solas from an outside perspective instead of being swept up in him and blinded, Lavellan thought seeing Solas would feel cold and clinical. Reality punched her in the face with the feelings that sprang up again like no time had passed and the extreme sadness from knowing those emotions couldn't change anything. I'll admit, that "I'll run away with you forever!" kind of option was really appealing for a moment but... any feelings she had for Solas could never convince her to betray her friends. Maybe I'm a terrible person but imagining Sera, Dorian, and Cass reacting to Lavellan choosing to run away with Solas was probably the biggest deciding factor for me First time I played it I honestly thought the anchor would kill her and she just wanted to see Solas for one last time... Same D: But also... she sort of refuses to let him wash his hands of her. If she's going to die because of him, she won't go quietly and he'll have to witness the consequences of his actions firsthand. Would you like me to punch him again in one of my saves for your Lavellan? Part of what makes breakups like Solas' so awful is that persistent hope that this isn't the end. That you have to crush your own heart to stop getting disappointed is just brutal. Also, don't feel bad that you let your friends ground you in reality. That's the point of having friends and family; they're there to remind you not to get yourself into some real dumb stuff. If I didn't have to worry about the disapproving looks of some really good people I admire, I'd be a bigger arse biscuit.
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Post by phoray on Aug 5, 2016 8:32:28 GMT
I added the paraphrased replies to the OP and added a fan made music video about the romance. I have never done a Solasmance successfully (tried once, deleted her) and this is all research to enter Solalavellan Hell voluntarily.
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Post by phoray on Aug 5, 2016 8:53:54 GMT
I really appreciate the responses. I was hoping to be able to RP a Briala type character, but the game doesn't allow for that IMO. I hit a couple snags with my attempted Solasmance a while back.
1. I still wasn't over Cullen from my first PT and it may have bled over... but I was roleplaying a First that was a true leader. And how Cullen led the army for her was impressive and made her admire him greatly. She wanted to have elven children, long term, however, and prioritized her people not dying out. Kinda hurt her own feelings, "Flights of passion are overrated";she stamped out her emotions for Cullen, and walked into a Fade dream with Solas. 2. it seemed like Solas disapproved of all her decisions, but somehow she still scraped up enough approval to keep the relationship going. Which made me feel like the relationship was dysfunctional. 3. I had high hopes when she found him sexy at the Winter Palace. 4. But as we all know, there are not many scenes to go on, so there was nothing to follow up that sexiness until the scene he breaks it off with her. 5. Considering her "My people are more important than romance", she was sad they broke up.....But then I realized she would absolutely not pine after him for two years.
And since the whole point of my Solasmance is to use it as my worldstate for my first PT in DA4, her being over him come Trespasser left me dead in the water. so, I deleted her before I even played the DLCs.
So, I've been crafting a character slowly that could do the romance in a way I could totally get behind. But I've been hung up on that two year gap. How to explain that bis natch without making my strong Lavellan pathetic.
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Post by Zemgus on Aug 5, 2016 9:06:12 GMT
I was pretty certain my Lavellan and Solas were about to have a sweet, tingly makeout/more scene in the grass by the lake. Nope. When Solas broke up with Lavellan after taking her vallaslin, I thought it was a Fenris-y thing and he would come back. Nope!At the end of the game with the party in the Great Hall Leliana tells you, "He could come back at any moment," and I honestly thought it was leading up to Solas meeting Lavellan in secret on the balcony one last time to say goodbye... NOPE. JUST A FUCKING LONELY, SAD-AS-SHIT SUNSET ON THE EMPTIEST BALCONY IN ALL OF THEDAS WTF. Yep. I was absolutely convinced that Solas would return to her and when he didn't - that was the worst moment in the game for me. It was devastating. I thought maybe I had missed something, but nope. But that is also why I was so excited when they announced wolf hunt Trespasser. Solas had promised he would explain everything to her and he kept his word. And their final kiss melt my heart, there is still hope for them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2016 11:08:22 GMT
I really appreciate the responses. I was hoping to be able to RP a Briala type character, but the game doesn't allow for that IMO. I hit a couple snags with my attempted Solasmance a while back. 1. I still wasn't over Cullen from my first PT and it may have bled over... but I was roleplaying a First that was a true leader. And how Cullen led the army for her was impressive and made her admire him greatly. She wanted to have elven children, long term, however, and prioritized her people not dying out. Kinda hurt her own feelings, "Flights of passion are overrated";she stamped out her emotions for Cullen, and walked into a Fade dream with Solas. 2. it seemed like Solas disapproved of all her decisions, but somehow she still scraped up enough approval to keep the relationship going. Which made me feel like the relationship was dysfunctional. 3. I had high hopes when she found him sexy at the Winter Palace. 4. But as we all know, there are not many scenes to go on, so there was nothing to follow up that sexiness until the scene he breaks it off with her. 5. Considering her "My people are more important than romance", she was sad they broke up.....But then I realized she would absolutely not pine after him for two years. And since the whole point of my Solasmance is to use it as my worldstate for my first PT in DA4, her being over him come Trespasser left me dead in the water. so, I deleted her before I even played the DLCs. So, I've been crafting a character slowly that could do the romance in a way I could totally get behind. But I've been hung up on that two year gap. How to explain that bis natch without making my strong Lavellan pathetic. Gah, yes! The characters were so well-written in DAI. That was the first game where I romanced two characters, Cullen in first playthrough and Solas in second. No matter which one I'm romancing I look at the other one and just swoon a bit. Solas wins as my fave though. I'm a sucker for the tragedy.
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Post by opuspace on Aug 5, 2016 15:49:22 GMT
I really appreciate the responses. I was hoping to be able to RP a Briala type character, but the game doesn't allow for that IMO. I hit a couple snags with my attempted Solasmance a while back. 1. I still wasn't over Cullen from my first PT and it may have bled over... but I was roleplaying a First that was a true leader. And how Cullen led the army for her was impressive and made her admire him greatly. She wanted to have elven children, long term, however, and prioritized her people not dying out. Kinda hurt her own feelings, "Flights of passion are overrated";she stamped out her emotions for Cullen, and walked into a Fade dream with Solas. 2. it seemed like Solas disapproved of all her decisions, but somehow she still scraped up enough approval to keep the relationship going. Which made me feel like the relationship was dysfunctional. 3. I had high hopes when she found him sexy at the Winter Palace. 4. But as we all know, there are not many scenes to go on, so there was nothing to follow up that sexiness until the scene he breaks it off with her. 5. Considering her "My people are more important than romance", she was sad they broke up.....But then I realized she would absolutely not pine after him for two years. And since the whole point of my Solasmance is to use it as my worldstate for my first PT in DA4, her being over him come Trespasser left me dead in the water. so, I deleted her before I even played the DLCs. So, I've been crafting a character slowly that could do the romance in a way I could totally get behind. But I've been hung up on that two year gap. How to explain that bis natch without making my strong Lavellan pathetic. I like your headcanon for your character, she's really pragmatic though I get what you mean about how her character doesn't fit with how the plot presents it. I think I'd have to see it firsthand, but it might be possible to have your Lavellan break up with Solas permanently in Trespasser. All that angst could be the pent up anger and not necessarily longing. Old flames like that are easy to resent for coming back and bringing unwanted baggage you just moved on from. I guess I'm curious to see what did your Lavellan like about Solas? What qualities does she find appealing? Do they relate on ruthless strategy?
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Post by Sah291 on Aug 5, 2016 18:01:35 GMT
Cass thinks I'm getting married to some mystery guy thanks to Varric lol I'm guessing she thinks I've moved on. Lol, yeah, that was a BW facepalm moment for me, since Cass is my Lavellan's BFF Lol...yes I actually use that bit with Cass and Varric to headcanon my Lavellan really was moving on, and probably had some suitors who were interested. It was Varric's way of giving her a nudge to move on with her life, and he got to tease Cass at the same time. Lavellan tells Cass she's thought about it and might get married someday . Then Solas came back and ruined it.. Basically. Now it's all about him again, as she has to try to lead a team to stop him. The nerve.
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Post by onmanye on Aug 6, 2016 0:34:52 GMT
For those of you who kept the romance flag up and waving to the very end kiss before he goes into the Mirror in Trespasser... How do you head cannon a Levellan that is still in love with him that long with absolutely nothing to support your still holding a torch? He leaves without explanation. He sends not one letter or clue about his whereabouts for two years and 2-8 months. How does your Lavellan still love him that much and not feel...well..a little pathetic? My Lavellan pursued him from the beginning and each time he would say that he would either have to think about it or that it probably wasn't a good idea to get involved. So, even after he said that he loved her, she knew there was something deep holding him back. It was quite obvious to her that he had relationship issues from the beginning. She apparently was very much willing to throw caution to the wind with him. She understands that she fell into a hole of her own making by the end. Having said that, it doesn't diminish the fact that she fell deeply in love with him. When he said that he couldn't distract her anymore (right after giving her honeyed words and a deeply loving moment), I believe she was in a state of shock. Left field, where did that come from. Love whiplash. During the two years after defeating Coryphenus, she was hurt and worked through it until she came to the understanding that he really did love her because he wouldn't just say that "what they had was real," if it meant nothing to him. She realized that whatever haunted him and made him walk away must have been important and that if she really loves someone, you let them go if that is what they want. She doesn't feel like it's pathetic to still be in love with him because she knows he's still in love with her. He just has issues. I truly believe she felt that a lot during their relationship. You could see it in his body language... that he ached to be with her, but he kept holding himself back. You can still see it in Trespasser. His voice, his body language.
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Post by patches on Aug 6, 2016 12:47:56 GMT
My Lavellan did think she was over him for the most part. After meeting the sentinels at the temple of Mythal she did wonder if perhaps Solas was an ancient elf too especially after he broke up with her because she refused to give up her Dalish tattoos (not what happened but it's how it seemed to her) she was heartbroken and angry but it had been a very busy two years and she thought she was over it.
Her friends suddenly bringing him up made her think they were up to something and maybe testing the waters before starting a matchmaking campaign.
Then there he was breaking her heart all over again and making it seem like the man she fell in love with never existed. The man she thought he was wouldn't have killed hundreds and be planning to kill everyone and destroy everything.
So yeah no kiss and redeem option for this Lavellan.
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Post by Julilla on Aug 7, 2016 13:34:37 GMT
I don't think it's pathetic to love someone who is gone from your life, especially when he left the way he did. This might be my perspective as an older woman, but there are a couple of men in my past who I'd like answers from. I think Lavellan moved on as much as she could, but suddenly being confronted with him would have brought all the pain and hope back to the forefront. Especially I'd she felt he had a reason and if she only knew it they could work through it.
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Post by opuspace on Aug 7, 2016 17:42:04 GMT
I don't think it's pathetic to love someone who is gone from your life, especially when he left the way he did. This might be my perspective as an older woman, but there are a couple of men in my past who I'd like answers from. I think Lavellan moved on as much as she could, but suddenly being confronted with him would have brought all the pain and hope back to the forefront. Especially I'd she felt he had a reason and if she only knew it they could work through it. After all the cliffhangers and all the angst, this is a story that would be best served with several ways to conclude it. No terrible one way street like they did with Thane. While I have to accept that Blackwall is very likely going to be forgotten and ignored in the next Dragon Age game, I'm grateful they gave a chance for Lavellan to have a happy conclusion with him. Solasmancers deserve that courtesy as well.
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