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Post by Blast Processor on Mar 22, 2022 21:20:57 GMT
Also, did not like the Far Zenith plot. Also, really enjoyed Aloy and Beta. I thought the main story went downhill fast when the Far Zenith villains were introduced. The first half of the story about restoring Gaia was fine. I wish they had left it at that and maybe made Regalla into a bigger threat. Or even made Sylens a Solas-like villain. I was actually expecting him to be a major character and he was, in the background, but ultimately he didn't have much screen time at all. And the story made him look foolish in the end so that the female characters could outshine him by a mile and I didn't like that sentiment. His decision to stay on Earth is an interesting development though. I didn't expect that. Thought he was going to make an exit for real. Going to be interesting how it plays out. I'm surprised you saw it like that, Sylens didn't have access to Tilda's secret entrance. He did the best with what he had. Aloy's been taking his s*** for basically two games now, and she finally one upped him. Felt great to be honest. Sylens staying had me laughing. Shepard and the Illusive Man are finally going to team up! I might play Zero Dawn again soon. I think I'm done with Forbidden West until I get a PS5.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Mar 22, 2022 22:09:51 GMT
Also, did not like the Far Zenith plot. Also, really enjoyed Aloy and Beta. I thought the main story went downhill fast when the Far Zenith villains were introduced. The first half of the story about restoring Gaia was fine. I wish they had left it at that and maybe made Regalla into a bigger threat. Or even made Sylens a Solas-like villain. I was actually expecting him to be a major character and he was, in the background, but ultimately he didn't have much screen time at all. And the story made him look foolish in the end so that the female characters could outshine him by a mile and I didn't like that sentiment. His decision to stay on Earth is an interesting development though. I didn't expect that. Thought he was going to make an exit for real. Going to be interesting how it plays out. I'm surprised you saw it like that, Sylens didn't have access to Tilda's secret entrance. He did the best with what he had. Aloy's been taking his s*** for basically two games now, and she finally one upped him. Felt great to be honest. Sylens staying had me laughing. Shepard and the Illusive Man are finally going to team up! I might play Zero Dawn again soon. I think I'm done with Forbidden West until I get a PS5. Sylens is an asshat but, as you said, he worked with what he had. So having him look like a fool in the end for planning to take down the bad guys with Regalla felt wrong to me. Because he wasn't a fool. He assumed his plan was the best one. He thought Aloy was too soft and would fail to get things done with less bloodshed. But she couldn't afford to fail. So he kept her in the dark so that humanity had a real chance to survive, in his head.
Maybe I'm misreading the writers' message here. And while I can totally understand Aloy's sense of victory over his scheming patronizing ass, it still felt like complete ridicule of his plan. And that is undeserved imo. First a man dooms mankind. A woman saves it once. Then another man has to be taught how to actually save humanity. Two women to the rescue this time. Girl powaaaa. I dunno, I know it's a flaw of mine to be so bothered by such politics. But it just does.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Mar 22, 2022 22:26:07 GMT
Short addition: Also, Aloy got LUCKY. She couldn't have known that one of the Zeniths had a romantic obsession with Sobeck and was therefore emotionally vulnerable and inclined to help her even more awesome clone. She might have concluded that there has to be a reason why Tilda was "nice" to Beta. But without Tilda's help, Aloy would have failed. And Sylens would also have failed because she sabotaged him. So actually, get off your high horse and just thank whatever lucky stars aligned here, Aloy. Tilda was a total deus ex machina. Aloy just made the right call to trust/use Tilda to get into the base.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Mar 22, 2022 23:05:15 GMT
It seems more like obsession to me; Tilda's relationship with Elizabet. Oh it was fine in the beginning but Tilda acknowledged that Elizabet eventually backed away, wanting less while she wanted more.
I'm glad to see Aloy mellowed and warmed up by the end of the game. It's pretty hard to easily depend on and trust others after living isolated and shunned for 18 years. Something Varl and Erend failed to understand when they expressed their upset and displeasure with Aloy at dumping them and leaving by herself without a word to anyone.
To the question as to whether she would find someone. Hard to tell though it is clear she is comfortable with Erend and they share some bonding time in FBW.
This trilogy reminds me of MET in some ways; incoming invader, the need to gather every ally for the final showdown, the technological disparity. Beta and Sylens are going to find some way to find Nemesis' weakness with Aloy providing inpsiration.
I'm sure Guerilla will score again with the finale. They did a great job with HZD and FBW.
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Post by Element Zero on Mar 23, 2022 4:32:32 GMT
I'm glad to see the full game being discussed now. I'll try to be succinct, but it's a long game. I'll also try to touch on some of the things already discussed. There were several things I correctly anticipated during and after playing Zero Dawn back in 2017.
I knew the Zeniths were the threat. I also knew AI would likely be involved. Who else could've sent the signal that unshackled 9 subordinate functions and made them sapient? There was no one else.
I also knew Ted Faro would try to achieve immortality. I anticipated a series of cloned bodies, possibly worshipped as gods by ignorant thralls. We already knew Thebes was being filled with sycophants, entertainers, and a harem. Liz commented on it in Zero Dawn.
I did not expect both the Zeniths and Faro to achieve immortality via poorly defined techo-magic. That was lame, and it really hurt the story. A series of Ted Faro clones, like a dark version of the lightkeeper protocol that led to Aloy? Cool. Immortality achieved by unexplained means using 21C tech? 🙄
Naturally, I thought the Zenith foes in TFW would be their descendants. I figured out the truth almost immediately, though, because of stupid promotional stuff. I knew Carrie-Anne Moss played a character named Tilda. When I heard the first conversation between Liz and Tilda, I thought, "These MFers are going to be the originals. Liz's ex-girlfriend is still alive." It was a correct guess on both details.
Because their shields made them sparkle, I tried at first to hope that the Zeniths were digitized minds in biomechanical bodies. When Verbena was killed, I gave up on that.
I thought Sylens was awesome in this game. He captured HADES, tortured him for info in a hilarious way, and formulated a winning plan. (Also, HADES told Sylens how to build his anti-Zenith weapon.) He even pointed Aloy toward GAIA so she could save the terraforming network while he destroyed the invaders. Brilliant.
I didn't at all feel he got disrespected as a character. Aloy was a smartmouth, as always, but he'd correctly anticipated her every move and response. Aloy's luck in meeting the universe's oldest creepy ex-gf couldn't be anticipated. Sylens' plan was pretty much the best available, if not for Tilda. His choosing to stay was a nice surprise. He hasn't completely given up on humanity because he believes Aloy might find a way. I wonder what the three of them (and GAIA) might do with access to Apollo? Other than HADES and HEPHAESTUS, GAIA is now whole.
Varl was a kick in the gut. It was obvious in hindsight, but I was too focused on my expectation that Beta (or GAIA) would die at GEMINI. When Zo said she was pregnant, I finally shed a few quiet tears for my dude. Varl was my favorite of a good bunch.
It feels like we might be traveling further afield in the third game. The Quen and their empire weren't introduced for nothing. It might take humans from all over the world to help with this. They presently lack the means to rally humanity, but that can be rectified. They have three of the smartest humans ever to live and an advanced AI. They have plenty of resources available.
I wondered how they'd address gameplay if GAIA managed to subsume HEPHAESTUS. I figured, "Either this is the last game, or HEPHAESTUS corrupts GAIA, creating a new hybrid that keeps churning out killer machines." When Aloy's updated plan kicked in and HEPHAESTUS started printing Slaughterspines, I thought, "Wow. Machine designs might get really crazy in part three."
Honestly, it might not be heroic, but it would probably have saved more lives in the long run to throw the Tenakth at them rather than freeing HEPHAESTUS. Of course, then we'd have no viable third game. Besides, I think Tenakth would've been hard-pressed to do enough.
I'm sure more will come to mind. The gameplay is really good. It took me a while to fully adapt to the changes, but the additions are good. I'm sure Zero Dawn will now feel simplistic when I next play it. I'll probably jump off a cliff, too, expecting to glide safely!
Okay, one more thought... I liked Tilda's character. Aside from the absurdity of her immortality, she was otherwise very believable. She behaved exactly as I expected. I figured she'd be the final foe to put down, but I'd hoped she might stay on Earth and help. She quickly laid that hope to rest and believably so.
I think it's best for all that the Zeniths are extinct. Sadly, they did try the obvious digital consciousness thing that I had expected, and somehow forgot to wipe the servers. WTF, guys?
As Tilda even mentioned, at one point, it's incredible how little they actually achieved. They figured out immortality and just wasted it by being selfish assholes for a millenium.
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Post by Element Zero on Mar 23, 2022 4:50:07 GMT
I might play Zero Dawn again soon. I think I'm done with Forbidden West until I get a PS5. I'm always on the lookout for the PS5, but it seems unlikely I'll get one any time soon. I'll definitely play HFW again on PS4PRO. I guess, technically, I'm still dabbling here and there. While I want a PS5, it's actually NG+ that I'm waiting for in order to continue. I know publishers like to dangle features and prolong engagement, but this game feels like it really needed NG+ at release. How do you make acquiring and upgrading gear such a long-game, and then expect players to simply start a new game? Nope.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Mar 23, 2022 9:49:20 GMT
When Varl died, I thought of his mom immediately. s*** no! Freaking h***, she lost her kids but the news that Zo is pregnant is some consolation. I'm thinking maybe not all the Zeniths showed up. There could some leftovers. Perhaps not in concert with the plans the rest have in mind. I should think that retraining would start with a small group and that Beta, Sylens and Aloy continue to make use of the terra forming centre facilities while working towards some kind of defense against Nemeis. Hopefully Guerilla implement NG+ faster than stupid Ubi.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Mar 23, 2022 14:18:56 GMT
I also knew Ted Faro would try to achieve immortality. I anticipated a series of cloned bodies, possibly worshipped as gods by ignorant thralls. We already knew Thebes was being filled with sycophants, entertainers, and a harem. Liz commented on it in Zero Dawn.
I did not expect both the Zeniths and Faro to achieve immortality via poorly defined techo-magic. That was lame, and it really hurt the story. A series of Ted Faro clones, like a dark version of the lightkeeper protocol that led to Aloy? Cool. Immortality achieved by unexplained means using 21C tech? 🙄 Yes, I was expecting a Faro clone, not an abomination. I would have rolled my eyes at a clone too, I guess. But they could have done SOMETHING with that at least. What was even the point of Monster Ted? That was such a bizarre mission. Absolute low point of the story. Instead we got that evil airhead, the Ceo, as a kind of reincarnation of such a mindset. Except the guy seemed dumb as rocks. Imo that storyline also really hurt the Quen as a tribe. I have a hard time taking them seriously even though they're interesting in theory. Btw minor gripe: no Quen armor or weapons. Boo. Not that I found their style particularly attractive but it felt weird that they got sidelined like that. So yes, they'll probably have a bigger part in the third game.
Oh, I forgot Ted the harem creep was teased in HZD already. I've forgotten a lot in five years. I only remember the broad strokes and a few individual scenes I loved. I didn't know. I didn't know anything about the game except the trailers. Nothing about the cast. I hate spoilers. And I didn't know it was coming out on PS4 so I deliberately stayed away from all things FW. Yeah I too expected Beta to die. I mean she was an interesting not-Aloy mirror to highlight how amazing and fearless Aloy is but I don't think keeping her around was a good idea. It's... awkward. It's distracting from Aloy as a protagonist if there's another version of her around. Beta cannot be an amazing character in her own right imo. She can never be as awesome as Aloy from a narrative perspective. And she's not unique enough to really be her own person like the other companions. She pulled her weight in FW but imo she has served her purpose. So yeah, I'm very surprised she's still alive. Yes, for sure. They remind me of the Qunari, a repressive society somewhere across the sea. They're the most tech savvy and they have a whole database already. They only need to make it available to everyone. So I wouldn't be surprised if we get a Crucible situation in the third game to fully embrace the analogy. The Quen will start working on some kind of weapon. And Aloy will need to do the legwork again to secure resources and implement the execution. And then she'll dissolve in the red/blue/green beam... That's an interesting question. I actually didn't realize Hephaestus was really freed as in totally loose cannon now. I thought it was still shackled to GAIA now. Mustn't have paid attention there. I'd actually prefer not to have crazy functions again in the third game. But as you say, what would the gameplay look like with all the machines docile...
I'm expecting the plot to be a total clusterfuck. I don't think they ever planned this to be a trilogy and have no sound narrative arc mapped out. So that's going to be interesting...
And yes, would be interesting if Aloy's plan turned out to not be the best one. Or at least not the one with the least amount of casualties. I wouldn't mind seeing her crack under the pressure a bit like Shepard in ME3. There were hints of that in FW already and it's only natural. She's barely an adult. Would be interesting how Sylens would react. Would maybe like to seem him be supportive for once and help her stay strong. Actually coming around believing in her. He did seem impressed and thoughtful there at the end. If he didn't believe there was the possibility that she could beat Nemesis, he wouldn't have stayed. I thought that was the most realistic part for the entire plot, hahaha. They just wasted their immortality becoming even bigger lazy asshats. Sounds about right for humanity. ;D
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Post by Element Zero on Mar 23, 2022 16:25:28 GMT
Obsidian Gryphon, the Zeniths are all dead if Tilda was telling the truth. The surviving group was tiny, and every one of the idiots emerged to confront Aloy's assault. Talk about hubris. SMH.
The image of all of them hovering in mid-air was so cringeworthy. 🤣 As Kappa says, only the Faro Abomination would've been on par. Kappa Neko, Agreed on many points. I do think Beta can be cool as a sister, which is how Aloy rather abruptly decided to see her. I like the idea; it just seemed a bit of a sudden thing as presented.
There are some really cool Quen bows in the game. I just saw three more with the vendor outside the Base's western door. The problem, predictably, is that they're rendered obsolete by the Legendary weapons.
Honestly, while I enjoyed the Tenakth well enough, they're probably my least favorite tribe so far. The characters and concepts are cool. I don't like their aesthetics much. It's all so "hard core warrior." A lot of the gear in the game has a Tenakth look since this game was centered around their tribe. I absolutely could go for some more varied gear, especially more Quen and Carja gear. I like their looks a lot more.
I hope the DLC adds some cool stuff without making me kill dozens more animals to make ammo pouches. 🤨
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Post by Kappa Neko on Mar 23, 2022 21:34:55 GMT
Oh, I must not have paid attention to the Quen bows then. Probably because I had better gear. There's no Quen armor though, right? Btw I totally missed one sweet scene after Talanah's quest because I couldn't find her in Barren Light. Apparently she doesn't appear for some people. Or maybe I didn't look in the right place, even though I ran through the settlement for ten minutes. I stumbled upon a video for the scene on YT. Aloy has grown so much, accepting hugs and being openly affectionate.
I'm sure Aloy will find love in the third game. It's so telegraphed. They've set up something with Avad which I would be happy to pursue. There's no ambiguity in their conversation in the beginning, no matter which answer you pick, she likes him back but cannot afford to be distracted. And I assume this will be true for the third game too, so I'm not expecting BioWare romances. I'd be happy with just an epilogue where she does get to spend some time with him. Maybe just a short scene where they watch the sunset together or something cheesy, smiling. And the player can imagine Aloy living happily ever after, unlike poor Elisabet. I REALLY hope Aloy doesn't die at the end. She deserves better than Elisabet.
There are a lot of people out there who want Aloy to stay single and who think this fits her best. I wildly disagree. Even if one were to ignore that the game flat out confirms that she likes Avad back, the narrative is clearly about Aloy learning to rely on and trust other people. That being alone sucks. Elisabet died alone but Aloy is DIFFERENT, she won't. She has friends now. And she accepts friendship.
I really resent the idea that strong female characters should stay single because that is supposed to equal independence and strength. Which is the dumbest and saddest thing I've ever heard. There is nothing braver than being completely vulnerable with somebody. Pushing people away is weakness. It's insecurity. And Aloy is transforming into a confident strong woman who can now be warm and vulnerable around people. THAT is a sign of strength.In HZD Elisabet voiced sadness and regret that she never had children because she had no time. Aloy right now is still in that position of fighting for survival but I believe for her character to be fully her own person is to rise above Elisabet's sad sad fate. Her journey to me is only complete when she finds the ultimate human connection: romantic love. (Hell, even Elisabet did for a while!) Because Aloy's internal journey is about embracing humanity. Elisabeth was the last breath of a dying world and Aloy is the birth of a truly new world, without killer machines presumably. Aloy was born to live in this new world and grow to love it. To experience it and nurture it. Something Elisabeth was not granted firsthand.
Since I would pick Avad anyway if there were romance options I wouldn't mind there being none, the narrative following a set course, including who she may end up with. The game has had few choices. Even any tone choices are just shades of the same personality. This is not a Hawke scenario where the different tones were so radically different that mixing them seemed like multiple personality disorder. Or even the renegade/paragon system. And I'm totally fine with that. I'll pick an emotional linear narrative with an amazing set protagonist over some blank slate avatar to roleplay any day, despite my love for RPGs. I'm really a story person and RRGs just happen to usually have the most engaging stories.
I do like me some romance in games, even if I rarely like the execution tbh. So I'm always game for speculation. Varl is out of the picture. She seemed to like him in the first game (though it was unclear in which way I believe), until Zo I thought that Varl could be a viable option. And Aloy seemed a little jealous of the two love birds. But that might just have been jealousy of others getting to enjoy their lives even under such dire circumstances while she can't allow herself that kind of distraction. So it might not have been about any feelings for Varl. I don't believe he ever flirted with her? I really need to replay...
Erend, I don't remember her responding to his flirtation. And there was none in FW. Zero. I believe he's firmly friendzoned. Although I guess they could change that and give people the option since Erend is really popular.
If I remember correctly Aloy could respond ambiguously to Petra flirting with her. So that's always going to be an option. And she still seemed to be into Aloy in FW. Lots of people like her with Talanah which I guess is still an option if she's bi. I like them better as friends but that's just my preference for straight romances talking.
Regardless, they're selling Aloy/Avad hard, so I'm fairly certain that there's going to be a payoff.
I wonder if there's going to be a bigger time jump for the third game. And I wonder if Guerilla will stick to the established companions. I would love that. Part of what made Mass Effect so special was the character arcs of everyone. The friendships built over 2-3 games. I want that for Horizon too. I don't need new companions. Follow those we have. Also keep including allies we've made with the Sun King, Hekarro.
This all needs to matter and play a big role in defeating Nemesis. Just like in Mass Effect. Aloy has been building alliences the past two games, it's time to utilize them for a common goal.
Man, I can't wait for the third game. Please be here before 2027...
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Post by Element Zero on Mar 24, 2022 3:04:44 GMT
Indeed, there's no Quen armor. Though the Nora Thunder Warrior with "frozen wilds" color scheme looks pretty similar to the Quen expeditionary troops.
I would love to get a legendary Quen bow in the DLC. I saw a really badass bow yesterday. It had some cool intrinsic bonus that I can't recall. The upper limb was noticeably offset from the riser. I don't know if it was just laterally offset, but it certainly looked to be offset in more than one plane. I didn't buy it, so I can't say.
My shards are down to around 8000 now. Upgrading those legendary items is expensive. I have a sizable hoard of machine parts I could probably dip into for a lot of shards. I think I could safely sell off a lot, keeping maybe 5 of each lesser machine part in case of future needs. As it is, I've left three outfits unpurchased and have bought no more weapons.
I found a another Task yesterday. The scout at the campfire outside the western entrance told me that Marallo in Arrowgrasp wanted to see me. I ended up with a task that involved dropping an EMP, fighting machines, and grabbing a good amount of greenshine.
I checked my completion numbers, and I have completed 29 side missions, which is supposedly more than exist. I suspect that most players have missed a few. I really scoured the map to find any and all. This one with Marallo was a Task, which is counted separately. I can't recall my total numbers now that I want to remember. 🤔 Tasks give 1XP, so I'm now only 9 short.
I got the Steel Series Arctis Pro Wireless headphones today. I've been without my audio setup for 3 years and have had enough of crappy sound. These headphones are my compromise. I like them pretty well. (They don't use HDMI 2.1, which could be a problem for PS5. I use optical audio, though, and can hopefully bypass that issue whenever I manage to get a PS5. I know I won't want to degrade 4K 120hz for audio.) For now, they sound good. I will update their firmware sometime this week, most likely, and maybe even improve their performance.
I continued my NG save that I'd left off last week sometime. It is fun to be replaying again. I have just met the Utaru and now have quests in their territory.
This game is on Normal. While it is a bit too easy for my taste, it's not a cakewalk. It is definitely more fun and less of a grind than Very Hard at low levels. I kept referencing Ultra Hard, assuming it would be added later, but I'm not sure it's needed.
Zero Dawn had Very Hard added because Hard was too easy. Then, Ultra Hard was added because Very Hard was still easy. In Forbidden West, though, Very Hard is much tougher than Zero Dawn's UH. Looking back, I have some gripes about machines pulling physics-defying maneuvers to kill me in impossible ways.
I took it in good humor as "part of the challenge," but I can't say it was always fun. It sometimes felt arbitrary rather than an opportunity to Git Gud. I'm already pretty damn good, but I can't anticipate and react to the impossible maneuvers I sometimes saw. They might want to smooth the Very Hard experience before adding anything tougher. Tough is fun. Arbitrary, glitchy-looking maneuvers are just odd and frustrating. Those are just my musings on the topic, I guess. I haven't yet read up on the broader online opinions.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Mar 24, 2022 8:27:47 GMT
I found a another Task yesterday. The scout at the campfire outside the western entrance told me that Marallo in Arrowgrasp wanted to see me. I ended up with a task that involved dropping an EMP, fighting machines, and grabbing a good amount of greenshine. I checked my completion numbers, and I have completed 29 side missions, which is supposedly more than exist. I suspect that most players have missed a few. That's the one I mentioned before with the Dreadwing at the end, right? It only triggers after defeating Regalla. That one should not count towards sidequests because it's an errand. So if you have 29 sidequests completed now, that doesn't sound right.
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Post by Element Zero on Mar 24, 2022 14:02:38 GMT
I found a another Task yesterday. The scout at the campfire outside the western entrance told me that Marallo in Arrowgrasp wanted to see me. I ended up with a task that involved dropping an EMP, fighting machines, and grabbing a good amount of greenshine. I checked my completion numbers, and I have completed 29 side missions, which is supposedly more than exist. I suspect that most players have missed a few. That's the one I mentioned before with the Dreadwing at the end, right? It only triggers after defeating Regalla. That one should not count towards sidequests because it's an errand. So if you have 29 sidequests completed now, that doesn't sound right. I remember you talking about the Apex Dreadwing, but it didn't ring bells at that point. Now I know why. I hadn't yet found that particular errand. Yeah, I realized and mentioned that this particular one fell into a different bucket. My statistics definitely list 28 or 29 side quests, though. Unless it is bugged and miscounted, which can always be a possibility, I've played one or two more side quests than many. I'd look through a list and see if I remembered any not listed, but I don't think there is such a list. It might be difficult anyway for me to separate the different types of quests on memory alone. Side quests tend to be longer and multi-staged, I guess. I'll make sure I take note of my other statistics today. I'm curious as to whether my totals are divergent in other ways, too. Edit: I am now seeing several gaming sites saying there are 28 side quests, so I'm not the only one that passed 27. GameRant has a list that combines Side Quests and Errands into a single list of 45. I'll have to see how my numbers compare, I guess. I think I can review my completed quests, too, in the menu. Maybe I'll do that if I feel particularly invested. Edit #2: powerpyx says there are 28 side quests and 19 errands. I think that's the total I have. I'll definitely update once I check.
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Post by Tittus on Mar 24, 2022 14:38:14 GMT
I have 28 side quests and 20 errands. Anything, you just have to check rumors.
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Post by Element Zero on Mar 24, 2022 14:45:12 GMT
I have 28 side quests and 20 errands. Anything, you just have to check rumors. I have 28 quests and 19 errands. I'm glad to hear that there's at least one more out there to find. A rumor led me to Matallo. The hope that they'd uncover something I'd missed was the only reason I'd still been visiting those scouts.
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Post by biggydx on Mar 24, 2022 16:35:21 GMT
I've uncovered most of the map at this point (barring the Far west). Mainly component/material scrounging to upgrade my gear. Does anyone know at what point we gain the ability to fly
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Post by Kappa Neko on Mar 24, 2022 17:27:28 GMT
I've uncovered most of the map at this point (barring the Far west). Mainly component/material scrounging to upgrade my gear. Does anyone know at what point we gain the ability to fly It's the quest The Wings Of The Ten. It's relatively late game. 2/3 of the story maybe. It's connected to Regalla.
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Post by biggydx on Mar 24, 2022 18:07:51 GMT
I've uncovered most of the map at this point (barring the Far west). Mainly component/material scrounging to upgrade my gear. Does anyone know at what point we gain the ability to fly It's the quest The Wings Of The Ten. It's relatively late game. 2/3 of the story maybe. It's connected to Regalla. Ah. I had a suspicion based on the quest name. I'm not that far off then Thanks
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Post by Element Zero on Mar 25, 2022 2:42:40 GMT
I continued my NG today. My first time, I learned of Riverhymn via a rumor. This time, because I've wandered slightly less, I picked up the quest from a pretty Utaru named Nel. I met her again in Riverhymn once the quest was done.
I intended to actually use Kue's sharpshot bow this time since I'm still using all of my starting gear. I lack the Clawstrider Circulator needed to upgrade it, though, so it stays in the pocket dimension where unused weapons dwell. I bet I get a Rare bow that upstages it before I ever use it. Sigh.
I like Kue. I still think his name was probably intended to be "Kway," not "Q." No matter how he pronounces his name, I like him and his village.
I did all sorts of other stuff, too. I've completed quests all around Plainsong. Knowing which areas to ignore until the late game speeds things along quite a bit. (If we do get NG+, I hope it allows us to keep our special items/tools. Having all of them up front will make exploration much more efficient.)
I'll presumably knock out everything else in the general region and then pursue the main story in Plainsong. Even with less wandering, Aloy is already L18. I believe that's well above the level of the quest. That's just the way Horizon is built to play. Unless you ignore all side content, you will level ahead of the quests.
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Post by masseffectfanforlife on Mar 25, 2022 19:29:37 GMT
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Post by Element Zero on Mar 26, 2022 22:45:57 GMT
Often, games I play start popping up in my YouTube feed. I like seeing how others are enjoying my favorites, so I sometimes watch.
I watched the first 5 episodes of TFW with Sarah Carlos. It was okay, but something seemed very obvious. She claimed to be playing on Very Hard, but I really want to call BS. 😆 I know I can't really back up my suspicion, but the visual clues are overwhelming if you play on Very Hard all the time. The "perpetrating," as 90s rappers used to call it, along with jumpy, choppy editing, made me call quits.
Still, she was the best of those I saw. Kim Ellendale just started Zero Dawn. At the pace she plays, she'll finish it in 2025. She's still chipping away at Mass Effect 2.
Anyway, I'd like to say that I'm playing when not nitpicking others online, but I haven't played these last two days. My pup is now 100% healthy and running me ragged. It's not a bad problem to have. 🙂
I am enjoying the second playthrough, but I'd rather be playing NG+. I've also considered playing Zero Dawn yet again. In the end, I'll likely just let gaming drift into the background until something really pulls me back into it.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Mar 27, 2022 12:16:07 GMT
Often, games I play start popping up in my YouTube feed. I like seeing how others are enjoying my favorites, so I sometimes watch. I watched the first 5 episodes of TFW with Sarah Carlos. It was okay, but something seemed very obvious. She claimed to be playing on Very Hard, but I really want to call BS. 😆 I know I can't really back up my suspicion, but the visual clues are overwhelming if you play on Very Hard all the time. The "perpetrating," as 90s rappers used to call it, along with jumpy, choppy editing, made me call quits. Still, she was the best of those I saw. Kim Ellendale just started Zero Dawn. At the pace she plays, she'll finish it in 2025. She's still chipping away at Mass Effect 2. Anyway, I'd like to say that I'm playing when not nitpicking others online, but I haven't played these last two days. My pup is now 100% healthy and running me ragged. It's not a bad problem to have. 🙂 I am enjoying the second playthrough, but I'd rather be playing NG+. I've also considered playing Zero Dawn yet again. In the end, I'll likely just let gaming drift into the background until something really pulls me back into it. Yeah I sometimes watc hyoutubers pla ygames I've played too. I've seen ayoutuber called Emalynde and she was playing the rtilogy and is now working her way through Andromeda. She's als obeen playin gthrough the Dragon Age games as well as she's also been playing Inquisition.
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Post by Element Zero on Mar 28, 2022 3:10:01 GMT
I got to play for a couple of hours today. I continued my Normal playthrough, and the differences continued to shock me.
I initiated the big mission that eventually leads to the Base. (I'm still being cagey about spoilers, though maybe it's no longer important.) Anyway, that mission was freaking brutal on Very Hard. I never did die, but I expended tons of healing resources and was constantly salvaging to stay alive. You just fight so many angry machines, one after another.
On Normal, not only did the machines drop far more easily, but it felt like only a third as many spawned. It was like a stroll to the goal. Wow.
I saved for tonight in the Forbidden West. I helped Drakka do some hunting and agreed to meet the Desert Clan Chaplain later at Scalding Spear.
I bungled the hunt with Drakka slightly, and had a tougher fight on Normal than I did the first time on Very Hard. I attracted a Ravager to a spot I didn't think it could reach and then had to fight it in a broom closet, or so it felt. Then, I just wasn't hitting weak spots during the larger fight. I failed to trigger any of the environmental traps. Drakka was no help, of course. It was a sloppy performance. 😖😆
I did absolutely stomp a Thunderjaw 5 minutes later, dropping it so quickly with my green weapons that I was again surprised by the difference. I remember a lot of tactical positioning and playing cat and mouse around a bus the first time I fought it on VH. Drakka was actually helpful in tonight's brief fight. By the time the Thunderjaw ignored him to attack me, I'd already removed both disk launchers.
That's pretty much what I got to do. This game is still a lot of fun. Even though I'd only just played it last month, I think I might already have forgotten how much I enjoyed every quest. The acting, mo-cap, and quests are so good. I'm mildly bummed about the lack of NG+, but it will come in time.
If my bossy shih poo allows, I'll continue tomorrow. 😁 The spoiled little dude doesn't like sharing my time with anything.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Mar 28, 2022 4:29:08 GMT
Often, games I play start popping up in my YouTube feed. I like seeing how others are enjoying my favorites, so I sometimes watch. I watched the first 5 episodes of TFW with Sarah Carlos. It was okay, but something seemed very obvious. She claimed to be playing on Very Hard, but I really want to call BS. 😆 I know I can't really back up my suspicion, but the visual clues are overwhelming if you play on Very Hard all the time. The "perpetrating," as 90s rappers used to call it, along with jumpy, choppy editing, made me call quits. Still, she was the best of those I saw. Kim Ellendale just started Zero Dawn. At the pace she plays, she'll finish it in 2025. She's still chipping away at Mass Effect 2. Ever tried CohhCarnage? He always play on the hardest difficulty unless he finds it overwhelming whereupon, he'll pull it down to the next lower difficulty.
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Post by Element Zero on Mar 29, 2022 3:09:13 GMT
Ever tried CohhCarnage? He always plays on the hardest difficulty unless he finds it overwhelming whereupon he'll pull it down to the next lower difficulty. I've not seen him. I might check him out and see if he's played my favorites like Mass Effect and Horizon. I don't expect streamers to play on the hardest difficulty. In fact, if it's a "blind" playthrough, I think most are better off going with Normal. It is cool, though, when someone cranks it up and makes it work. That's how I like to play. I played quite a bit today, continuing on Normal. It's been so easy that I'm a bit torn. Aloy feels so powerful that it's almost like I'm playing a NG+ run, which is kind of cool, I guess. I will soon need to increase it to Hard, though. The lack of challenge gets stale. I expect Hard will be the sweet spot between cakewalk and punishing grind, at least without NG+ or late game gear. Earlier, I completed a quest and realized I had 26 unspent skill points. I invested them right away, of course, but hadn't really been missing them. I think Aloy is approaching level 23, but I'm not really sure. It could be higher. I distinctly recall being level 18 and doing a level 30 mission with Drakka, and that was a fair bit of XP ago. I settled the dispute between Yarra and Drakka today. Both are flawed, but Yarra seemed more qualified to lead, so I chose her the first time. This time, I chose Drakka. I like him well enough, but he's kind of a dolt and Yarra still seems way better for the clan. I will likely choose her more often than not. I did other stuff with the Desert Clan. I met Silga and found something for her, though she doesn't yet have it. I assisted a town in desperate straights. I saved in the Salvage Camp of Handa. Handa's VA is clearly the same who voiced Warchief Sona in Zero Dawn. She's so bad. 😖😄 I feel like she's the only bad VA in the game. Silga's is meh, but most are stellar, even when playing only minor roles. At least Handa isn't uptight like Sona. Speaking of Zero Dawn VAs, I heard a familiar voice at Arrow Grasp earlier. I thought, "I recall that voice as a Nora under duress." Then it hit me- it was Bast. "There are too many of them! Vala! Etc..." Since I changed the difficulty from Very Hard to Normal, it's hard to tell how much my prior experience is helping. I can tell that I'm better at melee, at least. I didn't really take the time to master combos until late in my first playthrough. This time, I'm chaining them naturally. I beat the Pit Master at Scorched Spear in 8 seconds. It was so fast that it was confusing. That reminds me. I ran into The Enduring while wandering the map. Aloy doesn't know whom she met, of course, but I do. I'll see you again, T.E.
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