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Post by Solas on Aug 6, 2016 19:10:39 GMT
It is hard to know what is the case with ancient elf spirits. May be he did just return to the Fade and reform but without his memories. However, Solas' spirit friend had never spent much time outside the Fade, except forcibly summoned and then transformed into a pride demon, so she would not have had much incentive to retain the memories she had from the material world and it may be that a spirit needs these to retain its identity. I find this really interesting to think about, as it ties to the question what happens to spirits and people in Thedas when they die (and whether there are any differences between the afterlife of different races of people). Whether Felassan comes back or not, it'd be nice to know exactly what happened to him. So where did the soul of an ancient elf come from and where does it go? My major source of information on the afterlife for elves and spirits is Solas' personal quest When Solas comes back to Skyhold, he says, "I found a quiet spot and went to sleep. I visited the place in the Fade where my friend used to be. It's empty, but there are stirrings of energy in the Void. Someday something new may grow there." Even before I discovered Felassan, the last two sentences always struck me as interesting. To me they suggest that the things that inhabit the Fade, of which we know mainly spirits, arise first from the Void. In addition, the Void must be somehow connected to the Fade. If ancient elves are closely related to spirits, and if ancient elven souls arised from spirits that took physical form, then it follows that ancient elven souls start out in the Void. But what causes the energy in the Void to stir and produce a soul or a spirit? And once life ends, where does it go? The Inquisitor has the option to ask Solas, "What happens when a spirit dies?" He then replies, "It isn't the same as for mortals. The energy of spirits returns to the Fade. If the idea giving the spirit form is strong, or if the memory has shaped other spirits, it may someday rise again." (Emphasis mine.) So upon death, it seems that the energy of the spirit becomes a part of the raw essence of the Fade. Which is somewhat confusing, since the rebirth of the spirit requires a stirring of energy in the Void, not the Fade? I honestly can't think of a good logical way to explain the relationship between Void and Fade, given this sentence. But then Solas explains that two things can cause spirit rebirth: One is that the idea that gave rise to the spirit in the first place is strong. This here is really important I think, because it provides an explanation why Mythal and the other Evanuris cannot easily be killed. It would also explain why they would want to be worshipped as gods. The faith of their followers might be what keeps them alive and ensures they come back even if they're slain. So godhood is desirable as the ultimate immortality - not only do they not age, but they cannot be destroyed by any means, so long as there are some who believe in them. But what if the ancient elf is not a god? Would the same thing apply to someone like Felassan? He is not worshipped, there is one legend about the slow arrow, but it's not really about him. Will the memories and strong emotions of those that are close to him be enough to resurrect him? This might be the second factor to cause a spirit to endure: "...if the memory has shaped other spirits, it may someday rise again." I take that to mean that for an ancient elf, remembering someone important to you might cause you to create a spirit that is similar to the person you once lost. Most likely, though, the spirit will take after YOUR idea of your lost loved one, not the "true" way the person was. There are two lines in banter between Cole and Solas that support this idea. In one attempt to comfort Solas, Cole says, "They are not gone as long as you remember them." I think this is more than just a trite, "they live in your heart" type of statement. In a universe where something like the Fade exists, strong memories can revive the person you've lost. However, it doesn't seem to always happen with certainty, and it probably gets more and more likely the more people remember and cherish the lost person. It's important to note thought, that the spirit/soul that is reborn will be shaped according to the memories of others. In another banter, Cole seems to be trying to soothe Solas regarding the death of a friend. Solas says something very interesting, "If you would remember her, could you do it as I would." Why is it so important to Solas how Cole remembers Solas' friend. I think it's because the nature of the memory will affect the nature of the spirit, should any spirit arise. In addition, gervaise21, you raise a third really interesting possibility - could someone's memories and identity, if they are strong, cause their soul to persist after death? I think it'd be really cool if that were possible. I can't think of snippets from the game that support it, but the mention of Felassan looking for his true self in the shell of his flesh could very well be related to that. If a Dreamer can shape the Fade at will, could a powerful dreamer literally clone their soul in the Fade if they know what their true self is like? Finally, Solas does caution that the reborn spirit will not be like the one that died, and it will probably not remember him. I think this might mean that if a wisp of Felassan, or anyone who have died, were to remain, they will have lost some of themselves. I think a wisp might not only need to regain their body but also their memories and personality, if that is possible. dis meta doe
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 6, 2016 19:54:32 GMT
Something else has occurred to me. Solas says to his love "I will never forget you." Again, is this mere words or does that have more significance? Could his memory of Lavellan allow her to return at a later date with her memory intact? "You have a rare and marvellous spirit. In another world...". Could her devotion call him back if he sacrifices himself on the "journey of death"? Certainly in the Fade the spirits are said to be able to affect the reality within it. When the Fade is reunited with the material world, could that make a difference?
I certainly wonder if it was the elves constantly praying to Mythal that allowed her to retain her identity? May be that is why she seems more disposed to recognise modern elves as her people because she knows the efforts of her own priesthood alone would not have been sufficient. With the Avaar it is because the worshippers in the hold keep on praying and remembering their "god" that they eventually reform and retain the identity their followers have given them. I also keep returning to the words of the Lady of the Forest to Zathrian. "You are my Maker Zathrian. You gave me form and consciousness where none existed." She was a simple nature spirit occupying the rocks, soil and trees but it was the mind of Zathrian that made that spirit tangible and he did it on this side of the Fade. What could be done if the two realms were reunited?
Incidentally I think having different writers sometimes confuses things over terminology. The Void may be linked to the Fade in some way, since Andruil went hunting there but that seemed very hard to find and was certainly an anti-life place since she forgot herself and she brought plague back with her. This is why I feel the true Void is the source of Blight magic, that is definitely said to come from somewhere other than the Fade and is what the archdemon draws on for its power.
The Fade does seem to be where spirits can reform. There is also a bit in the Chant that says: "Here lies the abyss, the well of all souls. From these emerald waters does life begin anew". Those first lines are quoted when we go to the Fade, so in this case the abyss = the Fade. So may be all souls go there on death and are later reborn but for the majority they never remember their former lives. Again, according to the Chant, the righteous go to the Maker's side on death, so presumably are able to break the cycle of constant rebirth and death. The Dalish also believe that the Fade is a holy place, although of course they call it the Beyond. There is a line in the Chant that shows that at some point either Andraste was influenced by elven teaching or they influenced what was later written down. It says: "I shall not be left to wander the drifting roads of the Beyond."
By contrast according to the Chant the Void is an absence of the life giving force of the Maker, the Wellspring of Creation. The souls of the damned are left to wander the Void for eternity.
I don't necessarily believe everything in the Chant but there may well be some clues there about the afterlife in Thedas.
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Post by drosophila on Aug 7, 2016 0:58:16 GMT
Very important meta (!):
Felassan is a boob guy. I base this on the fact that he exclaims, "Mythal's bosom!" once.
Also, since Solas is an ass man, they must've had lengthy arguments on the topic.
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Post by drosophila on Aug 7, 2016 1:26:53 GMT
This is why I believe Solas says to a romanced Lavellan, "I will never forget you." Maybe when he destroys the world (so he believes), a spirit will take on the memories of Solas and others' who remember her. Never is a long time, and she impacted the whole of Thedas... so likely this could happen. He also says sometime during the game to Cole that there are few spirits of Wisdom and that Spirits form as a reflection of this world and its passions. We will never lack for spirits of rage, or hunger, or desire. The world gives plenty to mirror. Something else has occurred to me. Solas says to his love "I will never forget you." Again, is this mere words or does that have more significance? Could his memory of Lavellan allow her to return at a later date with her memory intact? "You have a rare and marvellous spirit. In another world...". Could her devotion call him back if he sacrifices himself on the "journey of death"? Certainly in the Fade the spirits are said to be able to affect the reality within it. When the Fade is reunited with the material world, could that make a difference?
This blows my mind. It's also very sad, if you consider the full implications of it. First of all, it's not just Lavellan. Solas has caused many deaths, directly or indirectly, and given his character, he would probably try to remember as many people as possible, with the hope that they revive one day and some of the damage he did is undone. So he might have been walking the Fade for thousands of years, torturing himself with the memory of every person he has killed, believing this suffering would somehow help bring them back. If you look at it this way, no wonder he cannot simply let go of the past and accept the present world. Clinging to the past means that he might be able to recover some of it. Forgetting literally means that he would be killing any hope that the people he has destroyed might come back to life again. Finally, about Lavellan. If his plans succeed, and then in the new world she revives as a spirit, would it be right to romance her? I don't think so. She would not remember him whereas he would remember her. And she would be the spirit of the woman he killed, whose entire world he destroyed. So he would be stuck watching this new spirit grow, guiding her along just like he guides Cole, seeing her become more and more like the woman he loved, but to her he would just be a friend. He would have to keep his distance, even watch her fall in love with someone else, while he is alone forever. Poor Solas
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Post by drosophila on Aug 7, 2016 2:00:57 GMT
So sorry about the multiple posts, but multi-quoting in this forum is more difficult. Also, my thoughts tend to wander off in all directions, so I try to stay focused by breaking down the writing into several posts by topic. I certainly wonder if it was the elves constantly praying to Mythal that allowed her to retain her identity? May be that is why she seems more disposed to recognise modern elves as her people because she knows the efforts of her own priesthood alone would not have been sufficient. With the Avaar it is because the worshippers in the hold keep on praying and remembering their "god" that they eventually reform and retain the identity their followers have given them. I also keep returning to the words of the Lady of the Forest to Zathrian. "You are my Maker Zathrian. You gave me form and consciousness where none existed." She was a simple nature spirit occupying the rocks, soil and trees but it was the mind of Zathrian that made that spirit tangible and he did it on this side of the Fade. What could be done if the two realms were reunited? If we go with this, it might explain why Solas was so freaked out by the Wardens’ plan to kill the Old Gods. If the Old Gods are the Evanuris and Solas has them trapped somehow, killing them would actually free them. Then they would be able to come back as the Dalish still worship them. Related to what you wrote, I believe this is maybe why Mythal is all about vengeance now. She has changed from being all "Mother Protector" (at least that's what it seems like according to Morrigan's dream in the Fade from DAO). Is this because she is a spirit who died and went to the Void, came back to the Fade with a strong impression of vengeance? Then again, maybe she didn't go back to the Void, but she somehow saved a piece of herself like she says in DA2 and just lost a big portion of herself and what remained was her sense of vengeance. I honestly don't think that's all she cares about now, though, either. But that's another story. Felassan could certainly come back as another spirit who wants to take on the shape of him. Solas doesn't explain how strong of an idea it needs to be. Maybe he could save a piece o himself like Mythal did? Whoop whoop! DUN DUN DUN after her murder, every single Mythal follower was in intense rage, and among them some super powerful spirits/elvhen like Solas, so that she respawned over very negative feelings as people wanted her to come back but also wanted her to get justice and got corrupted- twisted from justice figure to revenge It might even be that Solas is one of the main people responsible for Mythal’s lust for vengeance. In a scrapped version of the meeting with him in Trespasser, the meeting was going to happen in a room full of his mutals, which was the room where he had a breaking point after the murder of Mythal and decided to go all-out against the Evanuris. So what if it is his rage and lust for vengeance in that moment that was one of the primary causes to change her? And now he feels guilty and tries to remember her as just and caring, only ever speaking about how she was “the best of them”, so that she comes back in a positive form. If he realizes what she has become, he will probably blame himself. And to bring things back to Felassan: Solas probably felt very strong guilt when he killed him. If that guilt engendered a spirit, I think it would be a spirit of Redemption or something like that - a spirit that would try to redeem Solas’ guilt and mistakes. And then in demon form, it would be Conscience, the spirit that haunts him and stokes his guilt.
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Post by Amburu on Aug 7, 2016 13:17:31 GMT
SERIOUSLY OMG THIS MAKES WAY TOO MUCH SENSE RIGHT NOW IT'S KILLING ME His last sentence from trespasser just takes a whole new perspective And the face he makes while saying it OMGGG NO And to bring things back to Felassan: Solas probably felt very strong guilt when he killed him. If that guilt engendered a spirit, I think it would be a spirit of Redemption or something like that - a spirit that would try to redeem Solas’ guilt and mistakes. And then in demon form, it would be Conscience, the spirit that haunts him and stokes his guilt. WHAT IF...... There's already this, Conscience, haunting him and WORSENING his guilt-filled mindset, as if it was even possible to worsen it lol WHAT IF CONSCIENCE IS ACTUALLY THE THING THAT MADE SOASL'S CRESWOODS SCENE TURN OUT LIKE THAT, the sudden change of expression as something "strikes" him after teh kess
Hahaha omg there wasn't any need for this to get any more wronger THIS IS UNNECESSARY pls me, be wrong
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Post by drosophila on Aug 7, 2016 13:29:26 GMT
SERIOUSLY OMG THIS MAKES WAY TOO MUCH SENSE RIGHT NOW IT'S KILLING ME His last sentence from trespasser just takes a whole new perspective And the face he makes while saying it OMGGG NO And to bring things back to Felassan: Solas probably felt very strong guilt when he killed him. If that guilt engendered a spirit, I think it would be a spirit of Redemption or something like that - a spirit that would try to redeem Solas’ guilt and mistakes. And then in demon form, it would be Conscience, the spirit that haunts him and stokes his guilt. WHAT IF...... There's already this, Conscience, haunting him and WORSENING his guilt-filled mindset, as if it was even possible to worsen it lol WHAT IF CONSCIENCE IS ACTUALLY THE THING THAT MADE SOASL'S CRESWOODS SCENE TURN OUT LIKE THAT, the sudden change of expression as something "strikes" him after teh kess
Hahaha omg there wasn't any need for this to get any more wronger THIS IS UNNECESSARY pls me, be wrongNot that it isn't possible, we just don't have any clues supporting the idea that Felassan is already haunting him as Conscience or some other spirit. If he were though, I think he would ship Solas and Lavellan - after all, it is Lavellan who proves to Solas the same thing that Briala proved to Felassan - that the modern elves of Thedas are real people.
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Post by Amburu on Aug 7, 2016 14:38:44 GMT
If he were though, I think he would ship Solas and Lavellan - after all, it is Lavellan who proves to Solas the same thing that Briala proved to Felassan - that the modern elves of Thedas are real people. Dis, + Cole being the only one who approves of Lavellan wanting to save the boyfriend, Spirit Felassan & Cole → excellent fade rescue squad for da4 Make it happen biower Edit : ( dis tumblr post about memories + "I walk the din'anshiral") x what you pointed out in dis thread = ARG
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Post by legbamel on Aug 14, 2016 22:44:41 GMT
Related to what you wrote, I believe this is maybe why Mythal is all about vengeance now. She has changed from being all "Mother Protector" (at least that's what it seems like according to Morrigan's dream in the Fade from DAO). Is this because she is a spirit who died and went to the Void, came back to the Fade with a strong impression of vengeance? Then again, maybe she didn't go back to the Void, but she somehow saved a piece of herself like she says in DA2 and just lost a big portion of herself and what remained was her sense of vengeance. I honestly don't think that's all she cares about now, though, either. But that's another story. Felassan could certainly come back as another spirit who wants to take on the shape of him. Solas doesn't explain how strong of an idea it needs to be. Maybe he could save a piece o himself like Mythal did? Whoop whoop! DUN DUN DUN after her murder, every single Mythal follower was in intense rage, and among them some super powerful spirits/elvhen like Solas, so that she respawned over very negative feelings as people wanted her to come back but also wanted her to get justice and got corrupted- twisted from justice figure to revenge Twisting spirits into something much worse than they were seems to be a developing subtheme in the DA universe, when you consider Justice and Mythal/Flemeth in this light. That said, I would love to believe that Felassan was essentially put out of commission for a time rather than destroyed. If he was Elvhen he'd have more...cohesion (?) complexity (?) than a spirit, wouldn't he? With more than a single facet like compassion or rage would he be able to exist in the Void as himself until he could find his way out again?
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Post by drosophila on Aug 15, 2016 1:21:06 GMT
Dis, + Cole being the only one who approves of Lavellan wanting to save the boyfriend, Spirit Felassan & Cole → excellent fade rescue squad for da4 Make it happen biower Edit : ( dis tumblr post about memories + "I walk the din'anshiral") x what you pointed out in dis thread = ARG Felassan and Cole working to change the Dread Wolf's heart is a bit too much like my halla-day fan fic "A First Day Chant." I thought it was a far-fetched Team Optimism! fantasy, but hey, maybe it will be a thing. That kind of works with the only dual protagonist idea I like: you play as the Inquisitor in the mortal realm and you play as a recruited friendly spirit in the Fade. Felassan could even be a companion in both places. Tranquil!Felassan for the Inky and Spirit!Felassan for the new PC. Wait, does that mean Felassan will exist in two places? As in, when he is made Tranquil his spiritual self is separated from his physical self? Is there some Tranquility meta suggesting this?
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Post by drosophila on Aug 15, 2016 1:43:59 GMT
DUN DUN DUN after her murder, every single Mythal follower was in intense rage, and among them some super powerful spirits/elvhen like Solas, so that she respawned over very negative feelings as people wanted her to come back but also wanted her to get justice and got corrupted- twisted from justice figure to revenge Twisting spirits into something much worse than they were seems to be a developing subtheme in the DA universe, when you consider Justice and Mythal/Flemeth in this light. That said, I would love to believe that Felassan was essentially put out of commission for a time rather than destroyed. If he was Elvhen he'd have more...cohesion (?) complexity (?) than a spirit, wouldn't he? With more than a single facet like compassion or rage would he be able to exist in the Void as himself until he could fine his way out again? I really hope he was put out of commission rather than destroyed. But at the same time, I think he must have lost some part of himself upon dying. He seemed hesitant to meet Solas, so there must have been something he feared. Besides, it would make for a boring low-stakes world if death does not have some permanent or at least possibly permanent consequences. In the case of Felassan becoming Tranquil, we know the consequences, and we can see how this must be scary to anyone. And even if Tranquility is reversed, it does not mean 100% certain return to normal life, since the detranquilized seem to have difficulty controlling their emotions. (But in the case of Cassandra, it seems to give them special powers. I wonder if Felassan undergoes Tranquility and then reversal, whether he will acquire some powers that could help in the fight against Solas.) In the case of spirit Felassan, the consequences of death are a little more murky. We know killing Mythal made her "a wisp of herself", but what does that mean? Was she sentient? Semi-sentient, like in a dream? Did she lose some of her memories and identity, or did she just lose her magical power? In both cases, I think he'll have to work to get back pieces of himself if he is a companion, and maybe the PC will help him. And finally, yeah, you're right that twisting spirits into something much worse than they were is a theme in the series. Could Felassan be twisted into some sort of a demon now? If yes, I really hope he's brought back to "normal" like Cole.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Jul 6, 2019 23:07:43 GMT
I really hope, if we ever do get a playable Arlathan era section of some kind (or just a cutscene), we get to see Slow Arrow in person. He will surely be entertaining! And its the only way we can be sure what vallaslin he actually has. >_>
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Post by midnight tea on Jul 7, 2019 5:07:20 GMT
I really hope, if we ever do get a playable Arlathan era section of some kind (or just a cutscene), we get to see Slow Arrow in person. He will surely be entertaining! And its the only way we can be sure what vallaslin he actually has. >_>Isn't the Mythal's vallaslin basically confirmed in the newly released illustrated edition of The Masked Empire?
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Post by Iddy on Jul 7, 2019 16:55:53 GMT
SERIOUSLY OMG THIS MAKES WAY TOO MUCH SENSE RIGHT NOW IT'S KILLING ME His last sentence from trespasser just takes a whole new perspective And the face he makes while saying it OMGGG NO And to bring things back to Felassan: Solas probably felt very strong guilt when he killed him. If that guilt engendered a spirit, I think it would be a spirit of Redemption or something like that - a spirit that would try to redeem Solas’ guilt and mistakes. And then in demon form, it would be Conscience, the spirit that haunts him and stokes his guilt. WHAT IF...... There's already this, Conscience, haunting him and WORSENING his guilt-filled mindset, as if it was even possible to worsen it lol WHAT IF CONSCIENCE IS ACTUALLY THE THING THAT MADE SOASL'S CRESWOODS SCENE TURN OUT LIKE THAT, the sudden change of expression as something "strikes" him after teh kess
Hahaha omg there wasn't any need for this to get any more wronger THIS IS UNNECESSARY pls me, be wrongIt's just an unproven theory. Calm down.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Jul 8, 2019 6:58:16 GMT
I really hope, if we ever do get a playable Arlathan era section of some kind (or just a cutscene), we get to see Slow Arrow in person. He will surely be entertaining! And its the only way we can be sure what vallaslin he actually has. >_>Isn't the Mythal's vallaslin basically confirmed in the newly released illustrated edition of The Masked Empire? Probably, which is why i had a strikethrough. I mean, all of that art was from the book. I'd just like to see how its actually supposed to look on him officially. Or just see him, officially. Cus those drawings are nice, but the consistency btwn them is meh.
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Post by midnight tea on Jul 8, 2019 12:24:54 GMT
Isn't the Mythal's vallaslin basically confirmed in the newly released illustrated edition of The Masked Empire? Probably, which is why i had a strikethrough. I mean, all of that art was from the book. I'd just like to see how its actually supposed to look on him officially. Or just see him, officially. Cus those drawings are nice, but the consistency btwn them is meh. That's because different artists have drawn those pics. Some of those have the vallaslin of Mythal merely sketched quickly after a glance into DAI reference material... I know, because it's exactly how my Mythal vallaslins looked like after I've done some quick sketches of them So I think the inconsistency in the book is mostly a matter of each artist's stylistic choice, but other than that it's the design of Mythal's vallaslin we saw in Inquisition, given that some other artists took their time to meticulously recreate it. I am amused by the fact that the hair is incredibly consistent though, as is the short cape. There must exist a reference picture in official materials that the artists have received.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 8, 2019 19:57:39 GMT
I am amused by the fact that the hair is incredibly consistent though, as is the short cape. There must exist a reference picture in official materials that the artists have received. It is funny but his hair style is sort of similar to the design they originally had for Solas before they decided to make him bald. It also does vary a bit between pictures. In some it looks more like a Mohican and in other it looks fuller but in all of them it is drawn back into a short pony tail. I must admit it is nice to see an ancient elf who isn't totally bald. I suspect the only reason Solas and the sentinels turned out that way is because Frostbite couldn't cope with the hairstyles they originally wanted to give them and they felt they ought to be different from modern elves. So may be they just handed the artists some of their original design ideas for them and suggested they pick one.
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Post by midnight tea on Jul 8, 2019 20:36:16 GMT
I am amused by the fact that the hair is incredibly consistent though, as is the short cape. There must exist a reference picture in official materials that the artists have received. It is funny but his hair style is sort of similar to the design they originally had for Solas before they decided to make him bald. It also does vary a bit between pictures. In some it looks more like a Mohican and in other it looks fuller but in all of them it is drawn back into a short pony tail. I must admit it is nice to see an ancient elf who isn't totally bald. I suspect the only reason Solas and the sentinels turned out that way is because Frostbite couldn't cope with the hairstyles they originally wanted to give them and they felt they ought to be different from modern elves. So may be they just handed the artists some of their original design ideas for them and suggested they pick one. These are minor differences, especially compared how those artists chose to draw the vallaslin And I think Solas is too important a character for Frostbite to decide features as notable as hair or their lack. If they cared to give less consequential companions completely custom hair (Sera and Morrigan even have hair mechanics) I fail to see how they'd not give it to Solas. Anyway, I've already picked my guess about what has probably decided the direction they picked for how the character ultimately looks like: And it has likely more to do with a shift in how they wrote the character. Solas was supposedly quite a bit more... Fellasan'y in original drafts I think, which is maybe why there were some visual similarities in earlier iterations. Once they've made him more dour, contemplative and serene, the visual design followed suit, as is usually the case.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Jul 8, 2019 23:12:54 GMT
Solas had hair mechanics; its called "bloom". .... I want hair mechanics.
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Post by midnight tea on Jul 9, 2019 18:18:18 GMT
Solas had hair mechanics; its called "bloom". .... I want hair mechanics. Both Anthem and MEA had some hair mechanics present in hairstyles available for players or NPCs Anyway - given that the teaser image suggested some sort of magical shadow present on his face, should we prepare ourselves for magical gleam of Solas's bald head?
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Post by Sifr on Jul 9, 2019 18:34:22 GMT
WITNESS. H I M Who else heard the faint yell of "Glorious!" from King Cailan in the afterlife?
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Post by Solas on Jul 10, 2019 20:26:47 GMT
Probably, which is why i had a strikethrough. I mean, all of that art was from the book. I'd just like to see how its actually supposed to look on him officially. Or just see him, officially. Cus those drawings are nice, but the consistency btwn them is meh. That's because different artists have drawn those pics. Some of those have the vallaslin of Mythal merely sketched quickly after a glance into DAI reference material... I know, because it's exactly how my Mythal vallaslins looked like after I've done some quick sketches of them So I think the inconsistency in the book is mostly a matter of each artist's stylistic choice, but other than that it's the design of Mythal's vallaslin we saw in Inquisition, given that some other artists took their time to meticulously recreate it. I am amused by the fact that the hair is incredibly consistent though, as is the short cape. There must exist a reference picture in official materials that the artists have received. GIVE US THE REFERENCE PICTURE BIOWARE, felassan stans beg of u
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Post by phoray on Jul 11, 2019 3:53:36 GMT
I essentially want a Falessan to romance in DA4. But someone who was a neutral party when it was all going down, who then proceeded to dislike Solas intensely as he lived in the new world; or dream lived it. Only to find out that the Dread Wolf has risen again, except this time he's going to step in and stop him. Because as much as he dislikes Solas for ending the old world, he doesn't think Solas should succeed in ending the world he'd brought about either.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Jul 11, 2019 21:41:30 GMT
I mean, I'm a Solasmancer first and foremost, but that LI concept also sounds cool.
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