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Post by phoray on Sept 28, 2016 17:26:37 GMT
I don't want to flirt with someone I'm not interested in if I don't want to romance them. Especially Isabella, she just shows up at your mansion and tries to sex you after like ONE flirt. It'd be awkward if I had to be like...uh, I was just mining points? Please leave? My evil Hawke got her max friendship pretty good, no flirting, before even the Koslun book decision. Oh, yes, haha, my Hawke just refused her... but was fun. And even someone complains that Anders easily attracted to Hawke... (Anyway: she deserve a little teasing, constantly shamelessly flirting with Fenris...) How do you head cannon that? "oops, it was just fun flirting not serious flirting. Silly Isabella, not being able to tell." ?
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Post by Catilina on Sept 28, 2016 17:39:08 GMT
Oh, yes, haha, my Hawke just refused her... but was fun. And even someone complains that Anders easily attracted to Hawke... (Anyway: she deserve a little teasing, constantly shamelessly flirting with Fenris...) How do you head cannon that? "oops, it was just fun flirting not serious flirting. Silly Isabella, not being able to tell." ? Oops, I feel guilty! (But head cannon? No, I don't do this always...)
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Post by cloud9 on Sept 28, 2016 19:09:06 GMT
You're the one who's getting worked up and I have the right to call out character flaws even it involves with race and sex. The only one getting worked up is you, my dear. I, personally, have a lot of fun seeing you jumping from 'I never said I didn't like her because she's a black woman!' to 'I have every right to call out character flaws even if it involves race!' I'm not the one with the problem, it's the writers who have issues of black women by stereotyping them. They have the problem.
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Post by cloud9 on Sept 30, 2016 19:10:42 GMT
Eh, honestly, while I don't exactly agree with cloud9, she/him is talking about the character construction here, and if that involves themes like racism and discrimination for her/him, there's nothing wrong about that. Some may think that games are just games and that's it. Homewhever there's not wrong with seeing games as a media and having this kind of discussion about character development and writing. You can simply ignore her/his posts if you do not want to debate it, seriously. There's no need to censor someone. It's okay if you don't want to talk about social aspects, but there's no need to get touchy. It's a shame that you have to tell people that and what you said is plain common sense.
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Post by Sifr on Sept 30, 2016 21:00:21 GMT
It's a shame that you have to tell people that and what you said is plain common sense. It's far more of a shame that the tripe you post is divorced from any kind of sense whatsoever...
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Post by cloud9 on Oct 1, 2016 1:23:10 GMT
Socrates once said: "When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser."
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 1, 2016 5:38:33 GMT
Socrates once said: "When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." If that's the case, you lost a long time ago since your posts lately have been nothing but slander, both of the character and of people who disagree with you.
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Post by cloud9 on Oct 1, 2016 5:48:43 GMT
Socrates once said: "When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." If that's the case, you lost a long time ago since your posts lately have been nothing but slander, both of the character and of people who disagree with you. I don't even expect people to agree with me. If they disagree cool and if they agree that's cool too.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 1, 2016 12:04:23 GMT
If that's the case, you lost a long time ago since your posts lately have been nothing but slander, both of the character and of people who disagree with you. I don't even expect people to agree with me. If they disagree cool and if they agree that's cool too. Because they don't care? There is not the place to playing social justice warrior. Open a new thread for it! All nonsense fits somewhere in peace, just not here.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2016 12:32:45 GMT
I don't even expect people to agree with me. If they disagree cool and if they agree that's cool too. Because they don't care? There is not the place to playing social justice warrior. Open a new thread for it! All nonsense fits somewhere in peace, just not here. Yeah, SJW's... They already exist on YouTube, we don't need em here. I'm fairly certain I'm too polically incorrect to deal with the SJW crowd (on my own thread of all places; yeah, as the OP, I'm allowed that privilege!) But anyhow, I've given up on debating SJW things with mister polically correct cloud9.
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Post by mousestalker on Oct 1, 2016 12:44:03 GMT
Why do I like this picture: So much? PS In so far as any interest I have in discussing I's proclivities and especially her ethnicity (She's Antivan, what's so hard to understand about that?) has diminished to zero, I'm ignoring any or all posters who focus on such things. If that's what floats your boat, more power to you, but it scuttles any interest for me. Parroting the same phrases endlessly is something the Chantry might do, after all.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2016 12:46:38 GMT
Why do I like this picture: So much? PS In so far as any interest I have in discussing I's proclivities and especially her ethnicity (She's Antivan, what's so hard to understand about that?) has diminished to zero, I'm ignoring any or all posters who focus on such things. If that's what floats your boat, more power to you, but it scuttles any interest for me. Parroting the same phrases endlessly is something the Chantry might do, after all. Isabela looks so care-free and young...
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Post by mousestalker on Oct 1, 2016 12:46:57 GMT
What's your favourite depiction of Isabela?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2016 12:50:35 GMT
What's your favourite depiction of Isabela? I dunno honestly. It takes a great of effort to actually find photos.
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Post by Walter Black on Oct 1, 2016 17:03:25 GMT
The only one getting worked up is you, my dear. I, personally, have a lot of fun seeing you jumping from 'I never said I didn't like her because she's a black woman!' to 'I have every right to call out character flaws even if it involves race!' I'm not the one with the problem, it's the writers who have issues of black women by stereotyping them. They have the problem. Umm... no. Bioware has a history recycling characters throughout their games. This is not a criticism, as it can bring both familiarity, while examining the archetype from a different angle. An idealistic and adorkable mage? Liara begets Merrill. A bearded, drunken berzerker? Black Whirlwind begets Ohgren. A homicidal automaton? HK-47 begets Shale. An evil sorceress who mellows with romance? Viconia begets Morrigan. A perky, redheaded rogue who comes back to life through controversial means? Imoen begets Lelianna. A no nonsense warrior who hates magic for what it has done to him and his family? Valygar begets Fenris. In Baldur's Gate we have Safanna, a sexually open, Chaotic Neutral Rogue who simply happened to be white. In Dragon Age 2 we have Isabella, a sexually open, Chaotic Neutral Rogue who simply happened to be black. Like Isabella, Safanna betrays the Player, but unlike her Bella can redeem herself if your Friendship or Rivalry meter is high enough. The sultry black Rogue had character development in her game, whereas the sultry white rogue did not*. So once again N7, you are wrong . *I'm aware Safanna got character development in Siege of Dragonspear, but it was over ten years later and under a different writing team. Honestly, if they were going to change Safanna so much, they should have simply created a new character.
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Post by Beregond5 on Oct 1, 2016 19:10:08 GMT
Just replayed some DA2 and I was surprised to hear a kind of banter with Merril that I hadn't heard before. Merrill basically said that she wished she was more like Isabela because she had all this exciting life, whereas Merrill herself lead a pretty boring one. And Isabela just flat out said, 'No. You *don't* want my life.' Merrill: Why not? Isabela: Because you're a good person, kitten. I was aware that the two of them had a sister-like bond, but wow. Made me like her even more right then and there.
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Post by cloud9 on Oct 1, 2016 20:49:12 GMT
I don't even expect people to agree with me. If they disagree cool and if they agree that's cool too. Because they don't care? There is not the place to playing social justice warrior. Open a new thread for it! All nonsense fits somewhere in peace, just not here. Dissenting opinions are obviously bothering you guys.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2016 21:02:50 GMT
Because they don't care? There is not the place to playing social justice warrior. Open a new thread for it! All nonsense fits somewhere in peace, just not here. Dissenting opinions are obviously bothering you guys No, I'd accept flaws with her, but not what your saying though.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 2, 2016 0:16:01 GMT
Why do I like this picture: So much? PS In so far as any interest I have in discussing I's proclivities and especially her ethnicity (She's Antivan, what's so hard to understand about that?) has diminished to zero, I'm ignoring any or all posters who focus on such things. If that's what floats your boat, more power to you, but it scuttles any interest for me. Parroting the same phrases endlessly is something the Chantry might do, after all. That is an adorable picture. Isabela is Rivaini, actually. The Antivan characters we've had are Zevran and Josephine. Just FYI.
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Post by mousestalker on Oct 2, 2016 0:46:49 GMT
Isabela is Rivaini, actually. The Antivan characters we've had are Zevran and Josephine. Just FYI. You are right, of course.
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Post by cloud9 on Oct 3, 2016 6:43:49 GMT
Dissenting opinions are obviously bothering you guys No, I'd accept flaws with her, but not what your saying though. More power to you.
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Post by Beregond5 on Oct 7, 2016 11:32:15 GMT
Some more art. Source: link
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Post by phoray on Oct 7, 2016 14:38:41 GMT
Asking about what it takes to start romances. what if I don't want to, say, sleep with Isabella in Act 1? there are flirt lines throughout the game with her, can the first flirt/sex happen in act 2?
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