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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jan 17, 2020 17:32:08 GMT
Hey Lavochkin , I remember you liking big honking muzzle brakes. What do you think of the brake I put onto my AK? Its a classic Tapco Brake, I had to do a lot of hand filing to clock it properly AND make it prop against the front sight base. But now it is rock solid and very effective. And it makes: Here is the brake:
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Post by Lavochkin on Jan 17, 2020 23:44:12 GMT
I should put a muzzle brake on my Ruger 10/22....
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jan 17, 2020 23:46:26 GMT
I should put a muzzle brake on my Ruger 10/22.... But 22lr has no recoil whatsoever!
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Post by Lavochkin on Jan 17, 2020 23:59:25 GMT
I should put a muzzle brake on my Ruger 10/22.... But 22lr has no recoil whatsoever! Mhm, when i've fired it, i only felt a bit of "snap" at the front end of the rifle. There was nothing coming back to me. And damn, apparently there IS such a thing as a .22 rifle muzzle brake! According to this fellow, it didnt' cost him more than 20 pounds(which is like 26 USD). If it wasn't for my rifle not being treaded, i'd be tempted in getting one tbh.
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Post by Lavochkin on Jan 19, 2020 1:05:47 GMT
I recently bought a third mag for my Beretta 81 and one thing i've noticed is how much of an utter bitch it is to put the last two rounds rounds in a new mag at first. I had to keep them fully loaded for a bit in order to make the spring less stiff when fully loading it subsequently.
Any of you experience this with new mags?
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jan 21, 2020 1:12:05 GMT
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Post by Lavochkin on Jan 23, 2020 12:25:06 GMT
Nice little .410 shotty that seems like it would be nice for vehicle and close quarters in one's home. The lack of a stock doesn't seem like it would hamper it as much as the lack of one with a 12 gauge tho.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jan 23, 2020 12:34:27 GMT
Nice little .410 shotty that seems like it would be nice for vehicle and close quarters in one's home. The lack of a stock doesn't seem like it would hamper it as much as the lack of one with a 12 gauge tho. The Problem with the lack of a rear stock is not recoil, it simply makes it super bad to point and you cant aim much at all. Also, in order to shoot it properly you have to hold it up like as if it had a rear stock, which ironically makes the gun as long as one with a rear stock. And .410 is a very anemic cartridge, you only get 3 to 5 buckshot pellets at a very slow velocity, with 12 gauge you get up to 12, and with #4 buckshot 27 pellets. If you want less recoil go with 20 Gauge, its 2/3 of the 12 gauge with almost half the recoil. In fact, I can hardly think of a gun that would be worse in a self defense scenario. It might be a fun toy but even a 22lr rifle is better as I can at least properly aim and hit stuff with it. Heck, I'd take a single shot break open .22 with a proper stock of this one.
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Post by nanotm on Jan 23, 2020 13:18:07 GMT
Nice little .410 shotty that seems like it would be nice for vehicle and close quarters in one's home. The lack of a stock doesn't seem like it would hamper it as much as the lack of one with a 12 gauge tho. The Problem with the lack of a rear stock is not recoil, it simply makes it super bad to point and you cant aim much at all. Also, in order to shoot it properly you have to hold it up like as if it had a rear stock, which ironically makes the gun as long as one with a rear stock. And .410 is a very anemic cartridge, you only get 3 to 5 buckshot pellets at a very slow velocity, with 12 gauge you get up to 12, and with #4 buckshot 27 pellets. If you want less recoil go with 20 Gauge, its 2/3 of the 12 gauge with almost half the recoil. In fact, I can hardly think of a gun that would be worse in a self defense scenario. It might be a fun toy but even a 22lr rifle is better as I can at least properly aim and hit stuff with it. Heck, I'd take a single shot break open .22 with a proper stock of this one. this looks rather like a reproduction of one of the rancher guns from the 1800's, as for its utility in terms of home defence I would say its swings and round abouts, clearly you get the gun your most comfortable with, as for aiming a spot of duck tape and a simple penlight will give you a target point (on the cheap end) or you can go wiht a proper laser marker and maybe instead of buckshot go for solid shot... so I would argue it could be viable in many situations but only if your well practiced and comfortable with the gun/ its also going to be better than a 12 gauge due to its anaemic state, what with your spray pattern being lesser and it having less over penetration to begin with, less of a killing more of a wounding weapon, something more people would be happier with since there not comfortable with the always lethal idea of home defence (personally I disagree with that notion, I would always prefer to be lethal if it comes down to it)
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jan 23, 2020 16:05:21 GMT
as for its utility in terms of home defence I would say its swings and round abouts, clearly you get the gun your most comfortable with, as for aiming a spot of duck tape and a simple penlight will give you a target point (on the cheap end) or you can go wiht a proper laser marker and maybe instead of buckshot go for solid shot... so I would argue it could be viable in many situations but only if your well practiced and comfortable with the gun/ A rifle without a butt stock is severely slower on target than a regular rifle because you have to guess where it shoots when it is free floating in your hands instead of having a shoulder contact point from which you can instinctively aim. Can you practice a TON with it and become somewhat proficient with it? Probably, but anyone who has a proper shotgun with a butt stock who had the same training time will shoot circles around you. Why handicap yourself? I see no reason to choose fun guns or other sub-par guns designed in the late 1800's to defend your life with. Caliber and/or velocity has NOTHING to do with shot dispersion, its a combination of shot size, choke, and the construction of the shell. In any case, inside a building distances are so short shotguns will pattern 2-3 inches at most. Shotgun patterns are important when hunting with shotguns which usually occurs from ranches 15-40 yards, that's when you get up to 15+ inches of shot dispersion, and that matters when shooting fowl. And this has nothing to do with home defense at all. ''Less lethal'' or ''Lethal'' are meaningless terms in defense scenarios, the only thing that matters is stopping power. You shoot until the attacker cannot hurt you anymore. The actual injury leading to the attacker to give up can be everything in between a mere flesh wound or a head shot. Choosing a caliber that is ''especially lethal'' is meaningless - a .22lr can cause severe bleeding and death from infection - it is a very lethal caliber. But it sucks at stopping power, and thats why its a poor choice for home defense, despite its high lethality. The other way around, a taser is not a lethal weapon but it has more stopping power than most service handguns.
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Post by nanotm on Jan 23, 2020 18:23:11 GMT
as for its utility in terms of home defence I would say its swings and round abouts, clearly you get the gun your most comfortable with, as for aiming a spot of duck tape and a simple penlight will give you a target point (on the cheap end) or you can go wiht a proper laser marker and maybe instead of buckshot go for solid shot... so I would argue it could be viable in many situations but only if your well practiced and comfortable with the gun/ A rifle without a butt stock is severely slower on target than a regular rifle because you have to guess where it shoots when it is free floating in your hands instead of having a shoulder contact point from which you can instinctively aim. Can you practice a TON with it and become somewhat proficient with it? Probably, but anyone who has a proper shotgun with a butt stock who had the same training time will shoot circles around you. Why handicap yourself? I see no reason to choose fun guns or other sub-par guns designed in the late 1800's to defend your life with. Caliber and/or velocity has NOTHING to do with shot dispersion, its a combination of shot size, choke, and the construction of the shell. In any case, inside a building distances are so short shotguns will pattern 2-3 inches at most. Shotgun patterns are important when hunting with shotguns which usually occurs from ranches 15-40 yards, that's when you get up to 15+ inches of shot dispersion, and that matters when shooting fowl. And this has nothing to do with home defense at all. ''Less lethal'' or ''Lethal'' are meaningless terms in defense scenarios, the only thing that matters is stopping power. You shoot until the attacker cannot hurt you anymore. The actual injury leading to the attacker to give up can be everything in between a mere flesh wound or a head shot. Choosing a caliber that is ''especially lethal'' is meaningless - a .22lr can cause severe bleeding and death from infection - it is a very lethal caliber. But it sucks at stopping power, and thats why its a poor choice for home defense, despite its high lethality. The other way around, a taser is not a lethal weapon but it has more stopping power than most service handguns. I dont disagree with any of your points, although I would argue that the usefulness of a tazer is limited if the person breaking into your house is a junkie or just plain out crazy... a bean bag gun would be more effective in terms of stopping power than most other "less than lethal" things, what weapon works best and why and what other factors come into the decision are all relevant only when it comes to personal factors, if I was buying a gun for home defence I would prefer an auto loading shotgun in a bull pup design with a really short barrel (just covering the cartridge) that was mag fed... not a choice most would consider "good" but in terms of room clearing and stopping power its potential is right up there with a ma deuce only more user portable for the average joe /
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jan 23, 2020 18:36:23 GMT
if I was buying a gun for home defence I would prefer an auto loading shotgun in a bull pup design with a really short barrel (just covering the cartridge) that was mag fed... not a choice most would consider "good" but in terms of room clearing and stopping power its potential is right up there with a ma deuce only more user portable for the average joe / I thought about the same thing, and technically a semi auto shotgun sounds awesome. Problem is none of the semi auto shotguns are reliable enough for me to consider them for home defense. I have friends who own quality semi shotguns and they jam like 1 in 100 shots due to variety in the ammunition which is much grater in shotgun rounds than in centerfire rifle ammunition due to their construction. That is why many semi automatic shotguns have a pump function in case you need to operate the bolt manually to clear a malfunction. 1 in 100 does not sound much, and its not much for the shooting range, it certainly does not spoil the fun - but for me a failure rate of 1% is way too much for a life or death scenario. For home defense I'll take my AK-47. 30 rounds of 7.62x39 soft points with a muzzle brake that reduces recoil to near-zero, super reliable. I live in a HEAVY brick & concrete building so overpenetration is of no concern for me.
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Post by Lavochkin on Jan 23, 2020 20:36:22 GMT
With a Spas-12 or 15 you get both pump and auto.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jan 23, 2020 20:53:09 GMT
With a Spas-12 or 15 you get both pump and auto. Yeah, problem with this is it takes a second to figure out you have a malfunction and to pump the action. AK47 it is, for me.
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Post by Lavochkin on Jan 24, 2020 21:22:45 GMT
Ian talks about why the anti-tank rifles of yore were not viable as sniper platforms.
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Post by Lavochkin on Jan 25, 2020 10:01:31 GMT
Ol' Paul talks about common causes of negligent discharges, newbies to firearms would be wise to heed this vid.
One thing I can add to Paul presentation of negligent discharges with auto-pistols with Glocks in particular is that the disassembly process involves pulling the trigger, which if you don't ensure there isn't a round in the chamber... can be problematic.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jan 25, 2020 12:49:47 GMT
One thing I can add to Paul presentation of negligent discharges with auto-pistols with Glocks in particular is that the disassembly process involves pulling the trigger, which if you don't ensure there isn't a round in the chamber... can be problematic. When I am not sure I always put the muzzle into my mouth and pull the trigger so I can catch the bullet with my teeth if there was indeed a life cartridge in the chamber. Safety first! /jk
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Post by Lavochkin on Jan 25, 2020 13:24:05 GMT
I've never had a negligent discharge but I once had an accidental one when firing my .357. What happened was that I fired a shot at the target at the range and when the muzzle went up from the recoil I accidentally pulled the trigger a second time.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jan 25, 2020 14:04:52 GMT
The only dumb ''accident'' I ever had was when my 1911 malfunctioned due to a bad round. I shot it, then the trigger went dead. I closely inspected it while still repeatedly pulling the trigger to get the shot off. Then it went *BANG* and I got a face full of powder gas and got nearly hit by the ejected brass. What happened was the round was not all the way chambered, when I pulled the trigger the slide eventually pushed it all the way in and fired with my face super close to the chamber. I kept the gun pointed downrange so I did not put anyone in danger, and nothing of my body went inf front of the muzzle, but holy crap, that scared me shitless, having your face inches away from a firing gun's chamber is quite unpleasant. I was angry the rest of the day for being so careless.
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Post by frosted on Jan 26, 2020 9:23:59 GMT
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jan 26, 2020 11:48:33 GMT
Yes, and there are also always those sheeple that applaud when rights are taken from them. Pitiful creatures.
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Post by Lavochkin on Jan 26, 2020 12:02:24 GMT
There were agent provocateurs like this fellow during this rally, but thankfully our people didn't take the bait.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jan 26, 2020 12:30:44 GMT
There were agent provocateurs like this fellow during this rally, but thankfully our people didn't take the bait. A massacre would have been the wet dream of the Governor, even if he had had to sacrifice the lives of his followers in a bloodbath. The far left that is rampaging now is as destructive as the far right, maybe even more so. I hate extremists of all sides.
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Post by Lavochkin on Jan 26, 2020 23:06:32 GMT
Here's one way to rapidly load a tube magazine shotgun, quad loading.
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Post by Lavochkin on Jan 28, 2020 2:37:59 GMT
Larry Vickers tours a factory of Czech based ammunition manufacturer Sellier & Bellot/
I have a 100 rounds of S&B 9mm luger I need to fire off sometime...
Edit: Here's another Larry Vickers vid showing off how S&B makes a bullet.
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