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Post by Verro on Nov 27, 2016 18:09:54 GMT
Modern war axe. Swap out the short handle for a longer one. You basically have a spear but could probably pass it off as a shovel. There's also plenty of reasons for a person to be carrying a shovel. It also only has like 2 inches of blade so I'm sure it could pass most blade laws.Unless they count the whole thing as a blade... That would be a question for a lawyer.
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Post by masterwarderz on Nov 27, 2016 18:10:44 GMT
Still, assuming you are not in the US, you might want to consider a warning shot, or a shot to the leg. In some places the law seems to almost care more for the well being and rights of the attacker than the defender. It's highly situational, and if you are in immediate danger, by all means shoot for center mass. Ye, I can't speak for the laws 'n' such outside of the USA. In regards to the "shoot them in the leg" comment, i'd like to remind everyone that the femoral artery exists and hitting it is going to cause someone to die alot quicker than shooting them in the gut will. That's why you don't aim for the gut. Two fingers down from the collarbone is ideal. About smackdab in the middle of the average sternum. If it doesn't kill them, they won't be a threat to you again. Of course this depends on shot placement...but we are talking ideally I assume because the chest is a far larger target then a leg.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Nov 27, 2016 18:11:19 GMT
In some places the law seems to almost care more for the well being and rights of the attacker than the defender. Austria is one of those places. Here attackers sue their victims all the time because of the injuries they received from their defensive actions. If the court decides you have used more violence than necessary (and those worthless pansy asses always do) they win and the attackers sue your ass into oblivion. A lot of people suggest - if you carefully read between the lines- to kill the attacker if you can, otherwise chances are good he will sue your as into oblivion. This can go really bad for you, if you do not go into prison right away you may have to pay the attackers sustenance because he can no longer work due to his injuries and permanent pain. This happens all the time. So: you get attacked / raped - you beat the attackers and break their bones - they go into prison for 1 year or so, immigrants will serve half a year- they sue your ass for their injuries - they win - you must pay a big part of their rent. This is almost as much fun as that Islamic law where rapists must marry their victims.
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Post by Verro on Nov 27, 2016 18:17:17 GMT
In some places the law seems to almost care more for the well being and rights of the attacker than the defender. Austria is one of those places. Here attackers sue their victims all the time because of the injuries they received from their defensive actions. If the court decides you have used more violence than necessary (and those worthless pansy asses always do) they win and the attackers sue your ass into oblivion. A lot of people suggest - if you carefully read between the lines- to kill the attacker if you can, otherwise chances are good he will sue your as into oblivion. This can go really bad for you, if you do not go into prison right away you may have to pay the attackers sustenance because he can no longer work due to his injuries and permanent pain. This happens all the time. So: you get attacked / raped - you beat the attackers and break their bones - they go into prison for 1 year or so, immigrants will serve half a year- they sue your ass for their injuries - they win - you must pay their a big part of their rent till they die. This is almost as much fun as that Islamic law where rapists must marry their victims. ''A lot of people suggest - if you carefully read between the lines- to kill the attacker if you can, otherwise chances are good he will sue your as into oblivion.'' I wonder if the family of the attacker could sue you for wrongful death?
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Post by masterwarderz on Nov 27, 2016 18:17:24 GMT
In some places the law seems to almost care more for the well being and rights of the attacker than the defender. Austria is one of those places. Here attackers sue their victims all the time because of the injuries they received from their defensive actions. If the court decides you have used more violence than necessary (and those worthless pansy asses always do) they win and the attackers sue your ass into oblivion. A lot of people suggest - if you carefully read between the lines- to kill the attacker if you can, otherwise chances are good he will sue your as into oblivion. This can go really bad for you, if you do not go into prison right away you may have to pay the attackers sustenance because he can no longer work due to his injuries and permanent pain. This happens all the time. So: you get attacked / raped - you beat the attackers and break their bones - they go into prison for 1 year or so, immigrants will serve half a year- they sue your ass for their injuries - they win - you must pay their a big part of their rent till they die. This is almost as much fun as that Islamic law where rapists must marry their victims. So. As you said. Ideally kill them. Not a nice thing to say, nor wish but these aren't nice people. I feel pangs of sympathy for my European brethren but...well, they caved into the wrong political influences, sad as that is. They could always do what I did and ya know... leave.
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Post by capn233 on Nov 27, 2016 18:19:25 GMT
This is quite the paradox. This is rifle range 101 shit. You don't aim at what you don't intend to kill. A gun isn't a threat, its a weapon. "if you do not intend to hit what you are aiming at" then you are aiming somewhere other than where you are aiming, which is like quantum mechanics
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Post by masterwarderz on Nov 27, 2016 18:20:19 GMT
This is rifle range 101 shit. You don't aim at what you don't intend to kill. A gun isn't a threat, its a weapon. "if you do not intend to hit what you are aiming at" then you are aiming somewhere other than where you are aiming, which is like quantum mechanics So a physics joke?
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Nov 27, 2016 18:21:48 GMT
Austria is one of those places. Here attackers sue their victims all the time because of the injuries they received from their defensive actions. If the court decides you have used more violence than necessary (and those worthless pansy asses always do) they win and the attackers sue your ass into oblivion. A lot of people suggest - if you carefully read between the lines- to kill the attacker if you can, otherwise chances are good he will sue your as into oblivion. This can go really bad for you, if you do not go into prison right away you may have to pay the attackers sustenance because he can no longer work due to his injuries and permanent pain. This happens all the time. So: you get attacked / raped - you beat the attackers and break their bones - they go into prison for 1 year or so, immigrants will serve half a year- they sue your ass for their injuries - they win - you must pay their a big part of their rent till they die. This is almost as much fun as that Islamic law where rapists must marry their victims. So. As you said. Ideally kill them. Not a nice thing to say, nor wish but these aren't nice people. I feel pangs of sympathy for my European brethren but...well, they caved into the wrong political influences, sad as that is. They could always do what I did and ya know... leave. Its the ruling elite that has a tight grip around the necks of the people. Most of the people here are actually decent and totally normal, its just you simply can't do anything against those ruling crazies. By now anything short of a complete and total revolt like in the Ukraine would accomplish absolutely nothing.
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Post by Serza on Nov 27, 2016 18:25:44 GMT
Yeah, apparently our laws don't make much sense either, and if you stop someone but don't kill 'em, you have to pay them "damages" as long as they live. No matter if you were defending yourself appropriately.
So... shoot to kill.
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Post by capn233 on Nov 27, 2016 18:26:04 GMT
"if you do not intend to hit what you are aiming at" then you are aiming somewhere other than where you are aiming, which is like quantum mechanics So a physics joke? A terrible one apparently
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Post by masterwarderz on Nov 27, 2016 18:27:16 GMT
So. As you said. Ideally kill them. Not a nice thing to say, nor wish but these aren't nice people. I feel pangs of sympathy for my European brethren but...well, they caved into the wrong political influences, sad as that is. They could always do what I did and ya know... leave. Its the ruling elite that has a tight grip around the necks of the people. Most of the people here are actually decent and totally normal, its just you simply can't do anything against those ruling crazies. By now anything short of a complete and total revolt like in the Ukraine would accomplish absolutely nothing. Sort of a catch 22 then isn't it? How are you to revolt without arms? I suppose that's the point. Your forced into accepting it because you can't fight back either physically or politically against it. Unless if it's a mass populist sort of thing I guess. You can't kill the entire country.
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Post by Verro on Nov 27, 2016 18:36:46 GMT
"if you do not intend to hit what you are aiming at" then you are aiming somewhere other than where you are aiming, which is like quantum mechanics So a physics joke?
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Post by Pearl on Nov 27, 2016 18:45:41 GMT
If you're gonna shoot - you shoot to hit. Not necessarily to kill, but to hit. If you shoot, shoot to kill. I mean actually really legitimately not joking here, if you defend yourself with a firearm (in the USA) then you had better be trying to kill whoever you're shooting at. If you shoot someone and they live, you had better tell the cops you were trying to kill them because your life was in danger. Never ever shoot someone without intent to kill or at least don't tell someone you weren't trying to kill them. Guns automatically put lethal force into your aggression, so if you say you weren't trying to use lethal force then you're in a load of shit. This. And the same goes for "warning shots". In the eyes of the law (in some states), if you are able to fire a warning shot, your life was not in danger and your use of potentially lethal force was not justified.
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Post by capn233 on Nov 27, 2016 18:47:28 GMT
Yeah, apparently our laws don't make much sense either, and if you stop someone but don't kill 'em, you have to pay them "damages" as long as they live. No matter if you were defending yourself appropriately. So... shoot to kill. In the United States this will depend not only on the facts of the case, but on the municipality. Here any damages for an injured party would be the result of a civil suit, and would depend on if a jury or the judge is sympathetic to the injured party. Some places limit the ability of anyone to bring a suit if they are injured in the commission of a crime, or give defenders immunity to civil liability if they are justified in using force under "stand your ground" laws or the equivalent. Where I live the justification is fairly broad, and in the places where the law is applicable you can use deadly force to prevent the commission of a felony. That is not equivalent to saying you should do so.
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Post by Verro on Nov 27, 2016 19:19:33 GMT
Haven't had a gun video yet. Lets fix that.
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Post by Draining Dragon on Nov 27, 2016 19:23:48 GMT
Yeah, apparently our laws don't make much sense either, and if you stop someone but don't kill 'em, you have to pay them "damages" as long as they live. No matter if you were defending yourself appropriately. So... shoot to kill. Reminds me of laws in China requiring you to pay damages for life if you accidentally hit someone with a vehicle.
This, of course, results in people intentionally running over the victim again to make sure they're dead.
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Post by Pearl on Nov 28, 2016 1:56:43 GMT
glorious austrian plastic
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Post by corpusdei on Nov 28, 2016 12:27:26 GMT
It's one of the few firearms you can legally own in the UK - as long as it's a .22 variant. Though you can own a friggin' great sniper rifle if you want. Can you legally own a pistol in the UK? And what about a shotgun? There are restrictions on barrel-length with pistols; you can own one if it's either got a really long barrel or you get it modified. It's about concealability. Shotguns are fine but they're limited to 3 shots (including the loaded round for pump-actions); breach-loading double-barrelled shotguns are preferred amongst the clay shooting crowd. Sporting rifles are generally fine IIRC. Fully automatic assault rifles were banned after the Hungerford massacre - you can still own semi-auto weapons as long as they're restricted to .22. In all instances though you need a gun license and to have your property inspected by the police to ensure the weapons will be safely stored.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Nov 28, 2016 12:33:54 GMT
''Secondly, pump action shotguns are outlawed in my country so acquiring one is not possible. Don't ask about the law as it make no sense to a sound mind.'' ''Last but not least semi automatic shotguns are allowed here'' ...What? I know you said not to ask, but I'm finding that hard to do. As far as I know there was a bank robbery spree in the early 80's and the guys used pump action shotguns - so the lawmakers found it a wise idea to ban this particular kind of firearm. Turned out those guns were obtained from the black market anyway and thus were already illegal before they banned it. KEK? This is allowed: (Saiga12 semi shotgun) What a Kalashnikov!
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Post by Lavochkin on Nov 28, 2016 14:18:05 GMT
Another repost of mine from the history thread, this vid covers the 1934 National Firearms act, that regulates Short Barreled Rifles, Short Barreled shotguns, suppressors,etc.
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Post by Serza on Nov 28, 2016 15:16:02 GMT
As far as I know there was a bank robbery spree in the early 80's and the guys used pump action shotguns - so the lawmakers found it a wise idea to ban this particular kind of firearm. Turned out those guns were obtained from the black market anyway and thus were already illegal before they banned it. KEK? This is allowed: (Saiga12 semi shotgun) What a Kalashnikov!*bursts a blood vessel* SUKA! ETO SAIGA! NET KALASHNIKOV! *reaches for a bottle of Vodka*
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Post by masterwarderz on Nov 28, 2016 17:20:16 GMT
Can you legally own a pistol in the UK? And what about a shotgun? There are restrictions on barrel-length with pistols; you can own one if it's either got a really long barrel or you get it modified. It's about concealability. Shotguns are fine but they're limited to 3 shots (including the loaded round for pump-actions); breach-loading double-barrelled shotguns are preferred amongst the clay shooting crowd. Sporting rifles are generally fine IIRC. Fully automatic assault rifles were banned after the Hungerford massacre - you can still own semi-auto weapons as long as they're restricted to .22. In all instances though you need a gun license and to have your property inspected by the police to ensure the weapons will be safely stored. I suggest you all revolt over there. ._. Those laws are awful.
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Post by Pearl on Nov 28, 2016 19:09:29 GMT
.22s are really good for taking out tin cans and other small game, plus they're fun.
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Post by masterwarderz on Nov 28, 2016 19:11:26 GMT
So, what do you guys think about the .22 round and weapons of this caliber? The shortcomings of this caliber are obvious, low stopping power, and for the most part low penetration. However, they do have some advantages, not only is it easy to carry large quantities of ammo, but the very low recoil can allow one to shoot multiple rounds quickly and accurately, perhaps even one handed depending on the shooter. Your thoughts? Your basically shooting a airsoft gun.
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Post by ToLazy4Name on Nov 28, 2016 19:13:50 GMT
So, what do you guys think about the .22 round and weapons of this caliber? The shortcomings of this caliber are obvious, low stopping power, and for the most part low penetration. However, they do have some advantages, not only is it easy to carry large quantities of ammo, but the very low recoil can allow one to shoot multiple rounds quickly and accurately, perhaps even one handed depending on the shooter. Your thoughts? Fun, easy to shoot and cheap. Can't beat a ruger 10/22 with a 50-100 round drum mag tbh
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