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Post by Natashina on Nov 27, 2016 2:42:19 GMT
I'm ok with new heroes every time, but stop sending the old heroes into the Bermuda Triangle. Let them live their lives as NPCs. To be fair, Hawke moves back to Kirkwall with Varric if you didn't leave them in the Fade. So at least we know where s/he is. However, I get your point. The chances of a new PC meeting those two as NPCs is slim to none. When it comes to Hawke, it seems impractical to do a CC for a cameo. It made sense in DA:I since s/he's very much apart of the events. In future games though? I have trouble picturing the devs using the zots for something like that. This is why I do see both sides of the debate. It allows the devs to create circumstances for a newcomer and set their background and story. Also, it avoids the character being depowered. I would argue that there is nothing from stopping the writers from having a PC entering a coma and having to restart that way. Recovering from a coma is hard work. It can take quite awhile to get back up to the same stamina and strength. It worked for the Saints Row series, before SR became corny and OTT. It's a little cheesy, but it beats the utterly ridiculous twist like the Lazarus project. Due to the sheer number of variables between PCs, it makes any sort of return of the PC as an NPC very difficult. There was a lot of variables for ME, but the story focused around one person. Whereas with DA, you have to account for not just class and personality, but race too. Then again, having that variety is part of the charm of the series. I like the idea that we have a reoccurring PC for at least 2 games if the story suits it. I'll love DA no matter the direction they take, but there is a special feeling about playing the same PC for a few games. This has turned into a cool discussion.
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Post by Catilina on Nov 27, 2016 2:50:36 GMT
I'm ok with new heroes every time, but stop sending the old heroes into the Bermuda Triangle. Let them live their lives as NPCs. To be fair, Hawke moves back to Kirkwall with Varric [...] ...and Kirkwall will be happy to see Anders again.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 27, 2016 2:59:12 GMT
To be fair, Hawke moves back to Kirkwall with Varric [...] ...and Kirkwall will be happy to see Anders again. Not in my Kirkwall they won't. My Hawke killed him.
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Post by Catilina on Nov 27, 2016 3:05:44 GMT
...and Kirkwall will be happy to see Anders again. Not in my Kirkwall they won't. My Hawke killed him. Anders is likely relieved.
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Post by Natashina on Nov 27, 2016 3:07:09 GMT
Catilina Not in my world state. I never kill Anders when playing DA2. He's only lived in the Keep once and I set his status to dead all the time now. I don't want that brat Sebastian invading Kirkwall. I wouldn't be surprised if Anders was killed off-screen, sadly. And I'm an Anders fan. Here's my other concern about changing protagonists: Emotional attachment of certain characters based upon the PC. Say we end up confronting Solas in DA4. Since I think he's going to be a big bad, why should be my character have any sympathy for him? She (I usually play females) wasn't around to hear his motivations. She didn't get to know Solas as the person, nor did she read the information at the Fade library. She'll just see someone hell bent on destroying the world for rather selfish reasons. Whereas if the IQ came back (the Dagna angle is a good one,) they would have personal feelings about Solas. Whether they wish to find Solas to redeem him or kill him, the character would be more emotionally invested in what's going on. A new PC wouldn't have the same attachment. Then there is the other argument. In this example, keeping the IQ around has it's own drawbacks. For instance, the lack of emotional baggage on the part of the PC would make it easier to see Solas as just a straight up villain. Instead of hearing him talk, you get to be a nobody and watch what destruction he causes. The amount of demons that crazy elf is going to unleash is going to make Kirkwall look like a cute bedtime story.
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Post by Catilina on Nov 27, 2016 3:18:42 GMT
Catilina Not in my world state. I never kill Anders when playing DA2. He's only lived in the Keep once and I set his status to dead all the time now. I don't want that brat Sebastian invading Kirkwall. I wouldn't be surprised if Anders was killed off-screen, sadly. And I'm an Anders fan. Here's my other concern about changing protagonists: Emotional attachment of certain characters based upon the PC. Say we end up confronting Solas in DA4. Since I think he's going to be a big bad, why should be my character have any sympathy for him? She (I usually play females) wasn't around to hear his motivations. She didn't get to know Solas as the person, nor did she read the information at the Fade library. She'll just see someone hell bent on destroying the world for rather selfish reasons. Whereas if the IQ came back (the Dagna angle is a good one,) they would have personal feelings about Solas. Whether they wish to find Solas to redeem him or kill him, the character would be more emotionally invested in what's going on. A new PC wouldn't have the same attachment. Then there is the other argument. In this example, keeping the IQ around has it's own drawbacks. For instance, the lack of emotional baggage on the part of the PC would make it easier to see Solas as just a straight up villain. Instead of hearing him talk, you get to be a nobody and watch what destruction he causes. The amount of demons that crazy elf is going to unleash is going to make Kirkwall look like a cute bedtime story. I'm not really against the return, but I am afraid that there will be disappointment, as for example Hawke was.
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Post by phoray on Nov 27, 2016 3:20:56 GMT
Catilina Not in my world state. I never kill Anders when playing DA2. He's only lived in the Keep once and I set his status to dead all the time now. I don't want that brat Sebastian invading Kirkwall. I wouldn't be surprised if Anders was killed off-screen, sadly. And I'm an Anders fan. Here's my other concern about changing protagonists: Emotional attachment of certain characters based upon the PC. Say we end up confronting Solas in DA4. Since I think he's going to be a big bad, why should be my character have any sympathy for him? She (I usually play females) wasn't around to hear his motivations. She didn't get to know Solas as the person, nor did she read the information at the Fade library. She'll just see someone hell bent on destroying the world for rather selfish reasons. Whereas if the IQ came back (the Dagna angle is a good one,) they would have personal feelings about Solas. Whether they wish to find Solas to redeem him or kill him, the character would be more emotionally invested in what's going on. A new PC wouldn't have the same attachment. Then there is the other argument. In this example, keeping the IQ around has it's own drawbacks. For instance, the lack of emotional baggage on the part of the PC would make it easier to see Solas as just a straight up villain. Instead of hearing him talk, you get to be a nobody and watch what destruction he causes. The amount of demons that crazy elf is going to unleash is going to make Kirkwall look like a cute bedtime story. I'm not really against the return, but I am afraid that there will be disappointment, as for example Hawke was. But Hawke was not controlled by PC, so the writers smashed their canon Hawke into the story; complimentary "your Hawke's face" could be used to dress this character.
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Post by Catilina on Nov 27, 2016 3:26:57 GMT
I'm not really against the return, but I am afraid that there will be disappointment, as for example Hawke was. But Hawke was not controlled by PC, so the writers smashed their canon Hawke into the story; complimentary "your Hawke's face" could be used to dress this character. Then this is an alternate reality, not my story.
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Post by Natashina on Nov 27, 2016 3:36:55 GMT
I personally really enjoyed Hawke in DA:I. I wasn't disappointed in the slightest. The excuse for him/her being there with a Warden is admittedly flimsy. "I'm suddenly good friends with Stroud/Alistair/Loghain." I was completely confused with my first world state.
I'm thinking, "Hold up a tick. My mage Hawke only met Stroud once since I made Carver a templar. That was right after things were going to hell. The game left me the impression that a pro-mage and mage Hawke got the hell outta dodge. Thanks for not explaining how such a Hawke could contact the Wardens. Much less become friends with them."
That is something that I could see as another a problem with returning PCs as NPCs. The writers are very likely to give them motivations and direction that the player had nothing to do with. My favorite example is watching Hawke go off on blood magic as a mage. Considering that you could play one I was left facepalming.
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Post by Catilina on Nov 27, 2016 3:52:11 GMT
I personally really enjoyed Hawke in DA:I. I wasn't disappointed in the slightest. The excuse for him/her being there is admittedly flimsy. "I'm suddenly good friends with Stroud/Alistair/Loghain." I was completely confused with my first world state. I'm thinking, "Hold up a tick. My mage Hawke only met Stroud once since I made Carver a templar. That was right after things were going to hell. The game left me the impression that a pro-mage and mage Hawke got the hell outta dodge. Thanks for not explaining how such a Hawke could contact the Wardens. Much less become friends with them." That is something that I could see as another a problem with returning PCs as NPCs. The writers are very likely to give them motivations and direction that the player had nothing to do with. My favorite example is watching Hawke go off on blood magic as a mage. Considering that you could play one I was left facepalming. That's it, for example. He don't knew Stroud/Loghain so much (I mostly have Templar Carver). Blood mage Hawke why not can only say, that magic is magic, depend on the user. Why he turned into some kind Meredith-abomination and cry "bloodmagic-bloodmagic"? And: why he said from his love, he is "not a monster, nor a hero"...?
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Post by Natashina on Nov 27, 2016 3:56:18 GMT
My only guess is that shit got even worse in Kirkwall once the Templars started using red lyrium. The mages getting more desperate and using more blood magic. His/her feelings could have changed off screen as a result.
Otherwise, I've got nothing.
Edit: One of my Hawkes despised the Wardens after Legacy. She would have worked with them because of Cory, but friends would be extremely unlikely.
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Post by Catilina on Nov 27, 2016 4:08:16 GMT
My only guess is that shit got even worse in Kirkwall once the Templars started using red lyrium. The mages getting more desperate and using more blood magic. His/her feelings could have changed off screen as a result. Otherwise, I've got nothing. Oh, maybe misunderstod (sorry, my english is weak): Blood Mage Hawke turned into Meredith in Inquisition. His reaction on blood magic was ridiculous: hypocrisy mixed with some paranoia. The red lyrium was necessarily, as Meredith's fate also: if that not happens, the whole story would have been much more logical ... Now seriously: Meredith fate based on a good idea, because she tempted by an unidentified and uncontrollable power, and she fell, and finally turned into some kind abomination. Just as the mages, whom he feared.
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Post by Natashina on Nov 27, 2016 4:16:13 GMT
Catilina Your english is just fine. In fact, I was surprised when you told me you weren't a native speaker. Your grammar is great and your use of more American slang is spot on. That's why I was asking about the language in your screen shots. See, I had a mage Hawke that my IQ met in game recently. She didn't seem as extreme as Meredith. Meredith's complaints and methods went far beyond hating blood mages. She hated mages in general and blood mages were her favorite excuse as to why. This Hawke was based one of my two blood mages. She seemed scared and angry, but doesn't seem to be on a witch hunt. She doesn't even attack the Wardens doing blood magic in front of her until she sees them possessed. So I can't see the Meredith comparison at all. <shrug> As an aside, she was also a rather lonely Hawke. She loved Anders, believed in him, but killed him to save Kirkwall from another invasion. So this all ties back in to Returning PC vs New PC with possible cameo. The risk of having a PC return on screen as a NPC is that they won't be the same as when we left them. Which leads to complaints like the one we have. I'm not going to be sad if the devs decided to have no more onscreen cameos of PC characters. I'm sure they are aware of the blood mage Hawke players going, "Wait, what the hell?" I'm sure that a romanced Merrill wouldn't be thrilled with his/her change of view.
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Post by mattig89ch on Nov 27, 2016 4:24:11 GMT
Personally I love it when bioware adds nods back to the old games in their new ones. I just picked up inquisition off of origin's black friday sale. And I liked having the options to customize my old world in a few different ways. There is 1 decision that is missing from 1 in that customization, that I do wish was in there. But its not a big deal.
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Post by thats1evildude on Nov 27, 2016 5:08:32 GMT
The number of people running around who can "save the fucking world if pressed", is getting kind of silly. Why? Does Superman's existence eliminate the neeed for a Batman or a Wonder Woman? My only guess is that shit got even worse in Kirkwall once the Templars started using red lyrium. The mages getting more desperate and using more blood magic. His/her feelings could have changed off screen as a result. Otherwise, I've got nothing. Some cut dialogue indicates that Orsino's transformation into the Harvester - coupled with Leandra's death - was the straw that broke the camel's back and soured Mage Sympathizer Hawke on blood magic.
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Post by phoray on Nov 27, 2016 5:50:15 GMT
The number of people running around who can "save the fucking world if pressed", is getting kind of silly. Why? Does Superman's existence eliminate the neeed for a Batman or a Wonder Woman? My only guess is that shit got even worse in Kirkwall once the Templars started using red lyrium. The mages getting more desperate and using more blood magic. His/her feelings could have changed off screen as a result. Otherwise, I've got nothing. Some cut dialogue indicates that Orsino's transformation into the Harvester - coupled with Leandra's death - was the straw that broke the camel's back and soured Mage Sympathizer Hawke on blood magic. I've always taken the dialogue, even my first round, to be referring to blood magic that takes the life energy of others. Slicing your own wrists is fine. The Wardens were killing other Wardens to get their demon army, so fell into the no no blood magic.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Nov 27, 2016 6:03:47 GMT
The number of people running around who can "save the fucking world if pressed", is getting kind of silly. Why? Does Superman's existence eliminate the neeed for a Batman or a Wonder Woman? Not at all. And when Lex Luthor is up to no good in Metropolis, then Superman can handle it just fine. When Darkseid wants to drag our world across to Apokolips, then I'd expect Batman, Wonder Woman and all the rest to cut short their investigation into drug deals in Gotham or regional human wars etc, and get some skin in the game. Just me, though. In the end, I'm relaxed either way. If it were solely up to me, though, I'd have them involved (in a non player controlled way) or a real reason (death/incapacitation/not enough time) why they couldn't be.
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Post by thats1evildude on Nov 27, 2016 6:30:33 GMT
Well, in the cut dialogue, Hawke acknowledges that his friends had differing views on blood magic.
But after what happened to Leandra and watching either Orsino go Harvester or the mages tear Kirkwall apart, Hawke decided blood magic was too dangerous. "Any mage who justifies its use eventually goes too far."
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Post by fylimar on Nov 27, 2016 12:44:45 GMT
Luckily, Orsino doesn't go Harvester in my games anymore - thanks to a great mod, I found at Nexus. It makes no sense at all, if you side with the mages at the end. But back to topic: From all my protagonists, I love Hawke the most, but I'm ok with a new protagonist for every game. You can be a dalish archer in one game, a human mage in the next and a dwarven assassin in the third - it's great, to have that choices and fresh perspectives coming with it . I'm still only in the first game of Mass Effect, but I played all Baldurs Gate games and addons and it was a bit ridiculous, how powerful your character gets at the end. I like the more down to earth character, no god-connection and no chosen one (that I leave to Buffy), I like the average guy or gal rise into power (I guess, that's the reason, I like Hawke so much)and I hope, the next protagonist is something like that again. Before someone asks: of course I like my Wardens and Inquis a lot, my elven archer Lyana Lavellan is probably one of my alltime favorites, but I find it more fun to play someone like Hawke.
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Post by Retro-bit Miss on Nov 27, 2016 14:53:03 GMT
I think they're being inconsistent and it bugg's the hell out me. They say 'Different game, different story, Thedas story' yet they rehash the same old damn characters who 'have' to make an appearance every game? No. Just no. Either give me a true fresh start or continue someone else's story if that's what makes sense because these cameos make me feel like they're not ready to move on. Either that or fan service sucks 😂😂
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Post by Heimdall on Nov 27, 2016 15:34:05 GMT
I think they're being inconsistent and it bugg's the hell out me. They say 'Different game, different story, Thedas story' yet they rehash the same old damn characters who 'have' to make an appearance every game? No. Just no. Either give me a true fresh start or continue someone else's story if that's what makes sense because these cameos make me feel like they're not ready to move on. Either that or fan service sucks 😂😂 Much as I like getting to start a new character in DA, I think this is a serious problem. I'm not opposed to SMALL cameos, but you can't keep dragging back previous characters and giving them major roles.
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Post by Reznore on Nov 27, 2016 17:32:40 GMT
I don't think DA is more about the "world" , it's really character driven.DAI is a prime example , sure you visit more of Thedas.But mostly somewhat empty places .Orlais ? We saw no bards , barely any orlesians peasents, the cathedral and university were mostly stuff you'd find on the war table mission. Meaning the meat and potato of the "world" was put where it wouldn't cost that much. Now they did make an effort even if it was low cost , the war table was pretty good and we got TONS , TONS of new codices.
Anyway it isn't about the "world" and the 5 or so characters that keep on making cameos left and right or will such as Solas , Morrigan , Flemeth , Alistair , Sten etc etc...are also proof. Meaning the fact that our pc disappear into the sunset into this mostly character driven game franchise stick out like a sore thumb "Oh yes the warden is....well you know he went to the Bahamas looking for whatever he's looking for"Dun , dun , dun. Please.
Anyway it would be really neat if they could set out a clear narrative for Hero A , say for example one that would have ran after Flemeth and Morrigan until this is solved. They could even have put in their game Flemeth killed or did something to our hero backstage so our heros disappearing would be part of the narrative.If really they want to change and have a new hero each time. As it stands , DA just look messy. I love DA , and I'm not against a bit of a mess ,but after all this years it really feel like this franchise just has an ongoing identity crisis with a bunch of people throwing new things to a wall and seeing what's going to stick this time around.
Whatever.As long as I can play a pirate in DA4.
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Post by lundajfs on Nov 27, 2016 17:58:44 GMT
changing the hero is the dumbest idea ever, should never happen... THUS it will keep on happening Bioware only makes the worst decisions possible and sometimes even create ways to make decision so bad they would be otherwise impossible this one stupid decision have a very simple explanation, they think their world could be somehow interesting, and that Thedas story unfolding could possibly interest people, which it doesn't I know you Bioware histeric fangirls think Thedas is überinterestein but in the real world no one cares, Thedas is boring, DA series sell awfully bad for an AAA game and franchise will die all because developers think someone cares for Thedas If the game was called The Warden and we followed the Warden through a dozen games happening across centuries then perhaps by the 10th game Thedas could interest me, because it would be MY Thedas, shaped by me, but Gaider's and Laidlaw's boredom transmorphed into a world is bound to failure, again, well that if EA want to kick the dead horse called Dragon Age a bit more, which would be depressingly sad and unfortunatly very likely
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Post by KaiserShep on Nov 27, 2016 18:12:56 GMT
changing the hero is the dumbest idea ever, should never happen... THUS it will keep on happening Bioware only makes the worst decisions possible and sometimes even create ways to make decision so bad they would be otherwise impossible this one stupid decision have a very simple explanation, they think their world could be somehow interesting, and that Thedas story unfolding could possibly interest people, which it doesn't I know you Bioware histeric fangirls think Thedas is überinterestein but in the real world no one cares, Thedas is boring, DA series sell awfully bad for an AAA game and franchise will die all because developers think someone cares for Thedas If the game was called The Warden and we followed the Warden through a dozen games happening across centuries then perhaps by the 10th game Thedas could interest me, because it would be MY Thedas, shaped by me, but Gaider's and Laidlaw's boredom transmorphed into a world is bound to failure, again, well that if EA want to kick the dead horse called Dragon Age a bit more, which would be depressingly sad and unfortunatly very likely If only hyperbole was liquor, then we could all sit back and take a swig.
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Post by doflamingodonquijote on Nov 27, 2016 18:48:44 GMT
I'm ok with new heroes every time, but stop sending the old heroes into the Bermuda Triangle. Let them live their lives as NPCs. To be fair, Hawke moves back to Kirkwall with Varric if you didn't leave them in the Fade. So at least we know where s/he is. However, I get your point. The chances of a new PC meeting those two as NPCs is slim to none. When it comes to Hawke, it seems impractical to do a CC for a cameo. It made sense in DA:I since s/he's very much apart of the events. In future games though? I have trouble picturing the devs using the zots for something like that. This is why I do see both sides of the debate. It allows the devs to create circumstances for a newcomer and set their background and story. Also, it avoids the character being depowered. I would argue that there is nothing from stopping the writers from having a PC entering a coma and having to restart that way. Recovering from a coma is hard work. It can take quite awhile to get back up to the same stamina and strength. It worked for the Saints Row series, before SR became corny and OTT. It's a little cheesy, but it beats the utterly ridiculous twist like the Lazarus project. Due to the sheer number of variables between PCs, it makes any sort of return of the PC as an NPC very difficult. There was a lot of variables for ME, but the story focused around one person. Whereas with DA, you have to account for not just class and personality, but race too. Then again, having that variety is part of the charm of the series. I like the idea that we have a reoccurring PC for at least 2 games if the story suits it. I'll love DA no matter the direction they take, but there is a special feeling about playing the same PC for a few games. This has turned into a cool discussion. I had the impression that Hawke was meant to be the Inquisitor and that DAI was the continuation of her\his story,but for some reasons they replaced Hawke. If DA4 is just the second part of DAI (or at least was what Gaider said)then it means that a new protagonist will be a problem.
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