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Post by doflamingodonquijote on Dec 31, 2016 14:56:41 GMT
Not only they should continue to change heroes every game but they also should stop at reusing ex-companions that continue to jump around the world solely to meet the new protagonist.They should use Time-skip to kill the previous Heroes,with the warden for example a time skip of 15 years should be enough.
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Post by themikefest on Dec 31, 2016 15:23:39 GMT
Morrigan and Leliana weren't important. Dog was the most important character in DAO. He's the warden's faithful companion. He is able to sniff out trouble. Always remains at the warden's side. It was a crime there wasn't a dlc for him. I say the next DA game be devoted to him. The title of the game, Dragon Age: The Canine Effect. I've already posted about changing main characters. I don't see a problem with the Inquisitor making a return especially if Solas is involved. It wouldn't be hard for Dagna to make an arm for the Inquisitor.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 31, 2016 16:01:57 GMT
Looking forward to a new protagonist - their fresh perspective, getting to know them, developing their own unique friendships, rivalries, and romances - is one of my absolute favorite things about this franchise. I wouldn't want to experience a returning PC for more than an expansion or cameo.
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Post by Iakus on Dec 31, 2016 17:46:06 GMT
To be honest, I'm not even 100% sure that Solas WILL continue to be a primary character in the next game. Look at Morrigan. She was essential to DA: O then took a game off to reappear in a new role in DA: I. I could easily see us dealing with other threats in Tevinter (a slave rebellion, the qunari-tevinter war, the reformation of the imperium) and Solas can be tangential in several of these as a puppet master type of character. I guess my point is that Solas isn't necessarily the big-bad or even a central character in the next game and that's totally okay. Patrick Weekes answered on Twitter that the next game would finish up the Solas story. Of course, DAI ended the Mage-Templar war that DA2 was building towards by the end of the first act...
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Post by akiza on Jan 27, 2017 13:07:16 GMT
Depends. If they dump the Inquisitor on the garbage pile of "useless ex-protagonists who are conveniently disappeared", much of Solas' potential (antagonist or no) would be lost because it comes from the personal connection these two characters had -- either as friends or, potentially, as all but adversaries already who only cooperated reluctantly while they had a shared enemy. So in that case, I'd rather see his story tied up while we still get to play this character. On the other hand, I'm not a fan of piddly little DLCs picking up bigger issues.
I'd prefer to keep playing the Inquisitor anyway. Knowing that all protagonists will be relegated to said garbage pile along with all her friendships (so the favored NPCs can continue making money by appearing in franchise fiction and future games), connections and accomplishments is ... depressing and makes it hard to really get attached, especially to the companions who are supposed to be such a big draw for Bioware games but, despite all loud proclamations of friendship of loyalty, usually can't wait to get rid of any protagonist as soon as the credits roll.
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Post by Pokemario on Jan 27, 2017 14:23:42 GMT
I think they should give us the choice. In DAI, we had 4/5 different backgrounds (to which NPCs responded differently) and 4 different VAs. Wouldn't it have been better if they'd given us "Champion of Kirkwall"/"Hero Of Ferelden"/*New hero* as background options instead of Human Noble/Circle Mage/Dalish Elf/Carta Thug/Vashoth Mercenary?
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Post by xerrai on Jan 27, 2017 14:53:36 GMT
I think they should give us the choice. In DAI, we had 4/5 different backgrounds (to which NPCs responded differently) and 4 different VAs. Wouldn't it have been better if they'd given us "Champion of Kirkwall"/"Hero Of Ferelden"/*New hero* as background options instead of Human Noble/Circle Mage/Dalish Elf/Carta Thug/Vashoth Mercenary? Depends on if the game reacted sufficiently enough to the choices presented--particularly if you chose a former protagonist. Former heroes are simply not the same thing as a random person coming into their legacy. If the game failed to convey that very drastic difference, then I'm honestly thinking they shouldn't bother. Plus i'd imagine it would be a nightmare having to create even more sets of voices to match the former protagonists. So if they can pull it off well, I'd like the option. But otherwise I'll stick to the traditional new character option (preferably with more backgrounds than before).
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Post by Iakus on Jan 27, 2017 17:49:12 GMT
I think they should give us the choice. In DAI, we had 4/5 different backgrounds (to which NPCs responded differently) and 4 different VAs. Wouldn't it have been better if they'd given us "Champion of Kirkwall"/"Hero Of Ferelden"/*New hero* as background options instead of Human Noble/Circle Mage/Dalish Elf/Carta Thug/Vashoth Mercenary? Which Hero of Ferelden, though? Which Champion of Kirkwall? Each of those has hundreds of possible permutations.
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Post by deadlydwarf on Jan 27, 2017 18:34:05 GMT
I think they should give us the choice. In DAI, we had 4/5 different backgrounds (to which NPCs responded differently) and 4 different VAs. Wouldn't it have been better if they'd given us "Champion of Kirkwall"/"Hero Of Ferelden"/*New hero* as background options instead of Human Noble/Circle Mage/Dalish Elf/Carta Thug/Vashoth Mercenary? Agreed. If they want to get rid of an old protagonist, let it be done through a long time lapse. It's hard to believe the HOF sat on his/her hands during the earth-shattering (or Thedas-shattering?) events of DA2 and DAI. I hope the Inquisitor makes it into DA4 as a playable character if not the PC.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 27, 2017 22:30:00 GMT
I think they should give us the choice. In DAI, we had 4/5 different backgrounds (to which NPCs responded differently) and 4 different VAs. Wouldn't it have been better if they'd given us "Champion of Kirkwall"/"Hero Of Ferelden"/*New hero* as background options instead of Human Noble/Circle Mage/Dalish Elf/Carta Thug/Vashoth Mercenary? I don't think that they could implement it to a level that would provide any depth to the character itself. If I remember the dialogue wheel in Dragon Age 2, there were three options each dialogue option and there were a total of six different types of responses and that is before if they would include any specific choices made in the game itself or gender.
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Post by ioannisdenton on Jan 30, 2017 9:34:54 GMT
imagine if in DA4 we get to play all previous protagonists as main characters. MIND BLOWN!
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Post by Heimdall on Jan 30, 2017 15:28:23 GMT
I think they should give us the choice. In DAI, we had 4/5 different backgrounds (to which NPCs responded differently) and 4 different VAs. Wouldn't it have been better if they'd given us "Champion of Kirkwall"/"Hero Of Ferelden"/*New hero* as background options instead of Human Noble/Circle Mage/Dalish Elf/Carta Thug/Vashoth Mercenary? Agreed. If they want to get rid of an old protagonist, let it be done through a long time lapse. It's hard to believe the HOF sat on his/her hands during the earth-shattering (or Thedas-shattering?) events of DA2 and DAI. I hope the Inquisitor makes it into DA4 as a playable character if not the PC. DA2 was basically the local troubles of a single city until the very end, so that's actually very believable. The HOF isn't a superhero obliged to save everyone everywhere. At least they tried an explanation for their absence in DAI, even if it felt a bit contrived, which I was still pretty satisfied with
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Post by commandercryptarch on Jan 30, 2017 18:20:55 GMT
I think I laughed more than I should with that Def Leppard reference Anyhoo, maybe a trilogy like ME would be cool to happen at some point. Just like ME seems to be taking a more DA route this time . A simple switch just for change.
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Post by Nyx on Jan 30, 2017 18:40:11 GMT
I actually really like getting a new hero each game. It's a relatively unique approach to a series of video games. Most game series only feature the same set protagonist. It's refreshing and fun to get to create more heroes each game. I wouldn't mind keeping one protagonist if BioWare ever decides to do a spin-off series of games, perhaps games set way before the Dragon Age or far in the future, but with the current series I hope they continue introducing us to new characters.
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Post by Pokemario on Jan 31, 2017 12:15:02 GMT
Not only they should continue to change heroes every game[...] Wait... is that really you, DonQuijote??
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 12:23:08 GMT
Yes. Having the same protagonist every game is mass effect's thing and this is DA's it gives somewhat of a character to the series
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Post by shroomofdoom on Feb 5, 2017 12:06:18 GMT
I like that DA changes protagonists each game, keeps things fresh.
Granted, because everything is taking place in the short window of the Dragon Age (one hundred years is a short time, doesn't leave much room for those, "they got old and died somplace" time jumps people are talking about) means that creative means of explaining away the lack of presence of former world saving heroes, is a necessity. It's been handled well enough so far, though I too was very rankled by my Hawke having become an out and out anti-blood mage and warden hater. Didn't fit to my canon Hawke, which was jarring.
For DA4, I would prefer not to have my Inquisitor be the PC. I would like to see him be a mentor character, perhaps my recruiter, in the vein of Duncan and I'd like to see him killed by Solas (with whom he was very good friends) This would really give my new PC a good strong reason for taking up the chalice, so to speak.
Granted, there would be challenge in having the Inquisitor behave in the manner in which we played DA:I but that could be overcome in a variety of ways and with careful planning by the development team.
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Post by Catilina on Feb 5, 2017 12:13:46 GMT
I like that DA changes protagonists each game, keeps things fresh. Granted, because everything is taking place in the short window of the Dragon Age (one hundred years is a short time, doesn't leave much room for those, "they got old and died somplace" time jumps people are talking about) means that creative means of explaining away the lack of presence of former world saving heroes, is a necessity. It's been handled well enough so far, though I too was very rankled by my Hawke having become an out and out anti-blood mage and warden hater. Didn't fit to my canon Hawke, which was jarring. For DA4, I would prefer not to have my Inquisitor be the PC. I would like to see him be a mentor character, perhaps my recruiter, in the vein of Duncan and I'd like to see him killed by Solas (with whom he was very good friends) This would really give my new PC a good strong reason for taking up the chalice, so to speak. Granted, there would be challenge in having the Inquisitor behave in the manner in which we played DA:I but that could be overcome in a variety of ways and with careful planning by the development team. Haha, my lovely hypocrite, yes, this was quite disappointing...
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Post by shroomofdoom on Feb 5, 2017 12:23:22 GMT
I like that DA changes protagonists each game, keeps things fresh. Granted, because everything is taking place in the short window of the Dragon Age (one hundred years is a short time, doesn't leave much room for those, "they got old and died somplace" time jumps people are talking about) means that creative means of explaining away the lack of presence of former world saving heroes, is a necessity. It's been handled well enough so far, though I too was very rankled by my Hawke having become an out and out anti-blood mage and warden hater. Didn't fit to my canon Hawke, which was jarring. For DA4, I would prefer not to have my Inquisitor be the PC. I would like to see him be a mentor character, perhaps my recruiter, in the vein of Duncan and I'd like to see him killed by Solas (with whom he was very good friends) This would really give my new PC a good strong reason for taking up the chalice, so to speak. Granted, there would be challenge in having the Inquisitor behave in the manner in which we played DA:I but that could be overcome in a variety of ways and with careful planning by the development team. Haha, my lovely hypocrite, yes, this was quite disappointing... Had they made Hawke abit more neutral on such things, it might have been better, as it was, it felt too much like the hand of the writer, reaching down to tell me, that "no, your Hawke choices were wrong, this what he should have thought!" Silly I know. But still felt that way.
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Post by House Targaryen on Feb 5, 2017 19:50:19 GMT
The door is left wide open that in DA4 Solas needs to be stopped and who better to do that is the Inquisitor. They need to stick with the same protagonist is a couple of games like they did with the Baldur's Gate series.
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Post by shroomofdoom on Feb 5, 2017 20:44:46 GMT
The door is left wide open that in DA4 Solas needs to be stopped and who better to do that is the Inquisitor. They need to stick with the same protagonist is a couple of games like they did with the Baldur's Gate series. While I can respect that some people indeed want the Inquisitor to be the next protagonist, personally, I just don't feel that would work for me. I like that the game world is more important than any one character, unlike say, Mass Effect, in which, for many, Shepard is Mass Effect. There are other reasons, such as a fresh start, clean slate with companions and choices, both those made in previous games and freedom of making radically different choices in the next one. Then there's lesser issues regarding continuity. Not to mention that save importing is now out, it took me ages to get my canon Levellans look just right, I can't see me ever being satisfied if I can't recreate him in the next installments character creator. Silly and superficial I know. But easier by far for the Inquisitor to be off someplace else, die off screen or make an appearance in some other fashion. From the developers point of view. I think alot of people would have thought it would be best if Hawke returned for Inquisition, but how many of us would trade our experience with our favourite Inquisitor for a Hawke? Sure my canon hawke was a wise cracking tonne of fun, but my Inquisitor was so much more a creature of my own creation. The same would be true for any new character that we get to make and play as.
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